idk. they think that they're going to create AGI by cramming more data into the models (LOL). AGI is 5 years away just like nuclear fusion and quantum computers
Because then a real AI might be born and take everything away from them.
>>107910669buying all the RAM is probably cheaper
in 50 years china will have thorium reactors, while united states top INDIAN scientists are in mud huts with 3060 mining rigs, sacrificing goats to allah in black robes trying to summon AGI, while creating fake quantum computers with cobbled together pieces of steampunk cosplay brass, and pretending to research nuclear cold fusion with frothing beakers. LMAOOOOOOOO
>>107910669cuuz it's not about AI. It's not about RAM nor GPUs either. It's about disruption. Silicon Valley's tech has stagnated. Tech trillionaires lost. Technology cannot advance at a profit-making rate anymore. And instead of thinking for something new and useful (since they're incapable of doing so) they rather create a problem and try to sell the solution. It's nu-business 101.
>>107910948Sounds like schizo conspiritard bullshit to me.
Saltman doesn't need all that ram, he just doesn't want the rest to have access to it..
>>107911476Why? How does he benefits from this?
>>107911036NTA, but it's not. Tech in general, especially consumer tech, is basically solved and has truly peaked. It's something that's normal and to be expected, you can't have infinite growth and progress forever, however tech oligarchs and shareholders can't accept this and are now pulling a few hail mary moves. It's the same reasons many consumer tech companies like Microsoft pull hostile anti-consumer moves one after another in their products and put a smug face about it, but the truth is that they're in despair. It's becoming clearer each passing day that green line going up forever isn't sustainable anymore.They're just buying time and trying to amass as much generational wealth as they can before it all crashes down, as in due time China and even other lesser countries get the skills and equipment to turn current semiconductor tech into commodities.
>>107910669The basic business value proposition of AI demands it: service. You don't say "hey operator! My phone line could be tweaked like this!" when ethernet is being installed. Networked effects are their recursive power. >>107910948AI is a business intelligence tool. This Anon sees administrative reality he understands corporate incentives.
>>107910669>why can't they just optimize the aiWho ,hordes of pajeets?
>>107910669THERE'S NO TIME
>>107910855>50 yearswho the fuck cares
>>107910669To avoid making yet another RAM thread on /g/ (I am sure it must be tiring by now) I'm somewhat more interested in the business side of it: Once the bubble pops, is Altman et al still on the hook for fulfillment of all the orders? I'm assuming that product will collapse in prices so fast that RAM will completely flood the market at extremely cheap prices. Is this mistaken? I just don't see these prices staying elevated when this shit comes crashing down.
>>107911678when other ai companies have no access, they will have to pay premium to get ram. That's why he bought from 2 companies at the same time without them knowing about each other.Now he has access to ram at an agreed price, and all other companies need to pay more. Giving openai an advantage
>>107910817Buying all the RAM makes it so you dont make your offline models that make them irrelevant
>>107912258Your personal AI needs can be met with a local model anticipating all the FAQ you could ponder from your library/training data. However the company AI has a real time collective network. They're like a call center for libraries.
>>107910669there's a not so hidden agenda that's why, you will own nothing and be happy
>>107910669The chinks did that but it only goes so far. At the end of the day more numbers in the model = more better, so they have to use as much RAM as possible.
>>107912098openai will just get bailed out by microshit which in turn is gonna get a handout from orange hitler
>>107912098taxpayer money will foot the bill, ram prices will not go down.no lube will be provided.
>>107910669Apparently they are but LLMs are very wasteful and inefficient at reasoning.Yann LeCun just left Meta to develop a new type of AI. He says LLMs are a dead end.I suspect this is correct. LLMs are just the first iteration of this genre of software. We'll probably keep using LLMs indefinitely but it's not exactly what we always need.
>>107912447>>107912504Taxpayer money cannot foot the bill. The economy quite literally cannot bear the cost of doing so and it is a universally unpopular approach, it simply will not happen.
>>107910669have you ever written an algorithm and proved its correctness and efficiency such that it was faster both in theory and in implementation than anything else currently known for a given domain? i fucking haven't because it is an awful lot of work
>>107912616>it simply will not happenwatch them try it anyway because orange hitler is tarded.
>>107910669Your approach has been working very well for Deepseek.
The next 10 years are going to be so entertaining. Hope you /g/uys got yours.
>>107910669The sad part is there was only like 2 billion dollars worth of ram anyways and the government pumped a loooot more funny money into the market with no strings attached than that, it had to splash into private equity and creating bubbles somewhere because we live in a fake fucking economy that is based on nothing but continuous speculation and line go up Until the music stops and they pull up the stage curtain to reveal the brick wall we a flying 200mph at, it’s coming pretty soon
