>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICEPost build list or current specs: https://pcpartpicker.com/Provide specific use casesPlease BUDGET and COUNTRY>CASEmATX: AP201, Lian Li A3, O11 Air Mini, XT M3, CH260ATX: XT PRO (ULTRA), AIR 903 Base/MAX, Lancool 207, Flux Pro, Meshify 3, 4000D FRAME, X50Dual Chamber: Y60/70, O11 Vision, Antec C8>CPUGaming: 14600K, 9/7600X, 7800X3D, 9800X3DBudget: 12400, 12600K, 7500FWorkstation: 265K, 285K, 9950X3D*Avoid Asrock motherboards on AM5 (Be aware ASUS and other MOBOs are also reporting issues)*On Raptor Lake microcode updates should be considered mandatory, avoid second-hand>COOLERAIO: Thermalright Frozen Edge, Lian Li Galahad II Lite, Corsair Nautilus RS, Cooler Master Atmos, Liquid Freezer 3/Pro (Bad mounting solution)ITX/>42mm RAM: Mugen 6 Dual Fan, AXP120-X67TIM: MX-7, MX-4, Duronaut, *PTM 7950, Kryosheet*Most listings online are not actually 7950>RAM (Good luck)DDR5: 2x16GB or 2x24GB, 6000CL30 (AM5), 6400CL32 (LGA 1700)Workstation: 2x 32GB (budget.), 2x48GB or 2x64GB (high-end)>SSD (Keep firmware updated)Budget: SN7100, NM790High-end: SN850X, 990 Pro (Windows)Premium: SN8100https://borecraft.com/>GPUBudget: Arc B580, 9060xt-Used: 2080, 2080ti*8gb has become a major constraint even at 1080pMidrange: 5060ti 16GB, 9070, 5070-Used: 3080, 3080ti, 40704k : 5070ti, 9070xt-Native/High-end: 5080, 5090>PSUBuying guide:https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/>MONITOR1080p: 24" 165/180hz, KTC H25X71440p: 27" 165/180hz IPS, KTC M27T6 (miniLED), ASUS XG27AQWMG (WOLED but not yet in stores)4K: KTC M27P6 (miniLED)*Pulsar release soon, consider waiting if you've an Nvidia GPU.>OSActivate Windows @ >>>/g/fwt>CASE FANSMeta: Case with good stock PWM fansMidrange: Arctic P12 Pro, P14 Pro (5-pack, loud @ higher RPM)High-end: Fractal Momentum, Noctua G2 (140mm or 120mm)Prev >>107903865
>News & RumorsMemory situation unlikely to get better until at least 2027New DLSS presets using DLSS 4.5, M and L (specifically for ultra-performance). Performance hit consistently significant on Turing and Ampere GPUs, potential for issues on ada and low end blackwell6x and dynamic framegen coming in the springG-Sync PulsarARC B390PSU and CPU cooler prices may rise up to 10% soonNvidia claim *not* to stop production of some Ti variants but low stocks and high prices everywhere.>PSU Reviewshttps://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplieshttps://www.lttlabs.com/https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-suppliesFor tier-list enjoyers:https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/>Storage Reviewshttps://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.htmlhttps://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSDhttps://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews>Monitor Hunterhttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1illeNLsUfZ4KuJ9cIWKwTDUEXUVpplhUYHAiom-FaDo/>Other helpful LinksMobomaps, currently only lists a selection of AM5 boards but is being actively updated : https://mobomaps.com/A PC build guide : https://igwiki.lyci.de/wiki/Build_a_PCGerman autism : https://www.igorslab.de/en/Monitor reviews : https://www.rtings.com/
The last reasonably priced SSD i'll ever buy.
>>107911129i regret my samsung drives a bit because they have total ass performance on linux from the benchmarks i've seen which will make jumping ship from windows hard if im forced to.
>>107911169I'll live, I have an SN850X as well.
>>107911169Most people won't even notice the performance degradation.
Also, side note.I can confirm it takes ~1 month for 4chan to stop doing the multi-image captcha verification.I was on single image verification until I got my new PC on December 18th. Then I was back to doing 3-picture verification.Then a week or two ago it switched to 2-picture verification, then last night (around the same time I finished building my PC 1 month earlier) it switched to just single image verification.So 1 whole month of posting to get back to "easy" captchas.
I need a cheap case that>has 360mm gpu support>supports 2 hdds and 2 sata ssds>supports 2 5.25 bays What are my options?
>>107911198i recently got sent back to the triple captcha hellscape due to a vacation and caved... i kneel, hiroshima-sama.
>>107911198that's a good implementation to discourage shitposting and spamming. if you get warned or banned, you should get punished by doing long and hard captchas again
>>107911214literally how it works>>107911210i think the main goal is selling more passes
>>107911210I use a cellular usb modem that i switch from plugging into my desktop/laptop/router and the latter two send me to 3-5 step hell especially on linux
>he didn't boughted Blackwell
>>107911237>he boughted BLACKEDwell>i boughted BLACKEDwell too
>>107911237I was gonna buy Ampere
>>107911248This is what mental illness looks like
>>107911208Literally use pcpartpicker it lets you set minimums for bays and slots
>>107911276>he got BLACKwell'd
>>107911276whatever
I pay $100 a month for electricity, what is the absolute maximum performance per watt I can extract with a 300w power budget, and with a idle wattage under 20 watts?
>>107910876Thoughts?
>>107911319undervolted rtx 5080 in a thunderbolt enclosure connected to a NUC.
>>107911319>and with a idle wattage under 20 watts?not happening without buying a laptop or a mini-PC/Thinclient.
>>107911319single die ryzen (their apus for example) + nvidia gpusingle die intel 14th or 13th gen + nvidia gpuwhen it comes to idle power consumption that is. prob some i5 + 5060ti/ 5070ti with an undervolt and some tuning. no spinning rust. matx or itx board. a single fan cpu cooler. case without lights. low temps (high temps increase power consumption). i think ltt did a video on that but it is kinda outdated for specs.
>>107911342RTX 5080 alone is ~15W idle with a single 60hz monitor, and ~20-25W for high refresh rate, and 40-60W for multi-monitor high refresh rate idle power draw.
>>107911344Wronghttps://youtu.be/jv5wyM2Hp8U
>>107911360unplug the enclosure when 5080 is not in use. they're hotswap.
>>107911363That proves my point, even with his autism he was barely idling under 20W and basically had to cripple his PC to do it.>>107911366Lol oh okay
>>107911356oh yeah a small die nvidia gpu is ideal. smth like the one from the 5070ti or 5080 would fit the bill. the bigger ones have a higer power consumption at idle. my brothers 3060 12gb for example pulls like 11w with two monitors connected. one is a 1440p 144hz screen.
>>107911356I was wondering about this same thought experiment a while back to see if I could get anywhere close to matching my 3700/3060 Ti build>no spinning rustHehe, shame I didn't buy a 4-8TB SATA SSD before this even if it isn't 14TB... I was saving up to buy more Enterprise and registered ECC DDR5 to pair with a nice and green PCB motherboard or to pick up a workstation NVIDIA card if I don't get good silicon to undervolt and downclock a geforce card>ryzen apusSome of the low power Intel CPUs seemed like a better option due to estrogen cores and I think they had more cache than the Ryzen APUs which have less than their normal counterparts
My rig has the following drives>1TB NVMe>2TB NVMe (this one's still in the mail)>4TB SATA HDD>512GB SATA SSD (this was meant for a retro Windows XP rig that I gave up on so it's just sitting around not doing anything)I'm seeing an 8TB HDD on offer for ~$220 and something tells me I won't see anything cheaper any time soonShould I go for it?
>>107911327I wouldn't bother with those ASRock PSUs, especially when that model costs nearly $500. They are taking the piss with that price.https://old.reddit.com/r/hardware/comments/1qcsn9n/cybenetics_antimelt_gpu_cable_prototype_aims_to/nzkhzo0/
>>107911327Does it have to be 1600w? I haven't checked Corsair 1500w but their 1000w models are good. I did notice that Seasonic didn't have fan protection either, rather silly for something so expensive...
>>107911425You're probably blind bc I can find 8TB for 210. Just buy whatever.
>>107911319even consoles don't use less than 20w when in idle mode or rest mode with a download going. and they're supposed to be about maximum efficiency:performance.
>>107911425>I'm seeing an 8TB HDD on offer for ~$220 and something tells me I won't see anything cheaper any time soonThat's not really a good price.I got a 22TB a few weeks ago for $420.
>>107911419>Some of the low power Intel CPUs seemed like a better option due to estrogen cores and I think they had more cache than the Ryzen APUs which have less than their normal counterpartsi just wanted to provide some context. i didn't want to say that all ryzen cpus can't be used but intel is def king with their single die monolithic cpu design when it comes to idle power consumption. i like my 7800x3d but 40w on the desktop is smth else. >>no spinning rust>Hehe, shamethey add like 10 to 15w when they spin. so it's not really worth it and anyone would just stop them from spinning down. i think a founders nvidia gpu is also prob smth good since the board partner cards often have higher idel power consumption. i also think corsair has a pus that has stupid levels of effisensy arround the whole power range. a lot of people who build effisent servers use them.
>>107911270it's been 1.5 hours or so and it still hasn't even finished transferring that pagefile file over. i might have to leave this running for a few days at this rate.
>>107911419e-cores aren't actually all that efficient so don't fall into the trap of believing Intel's marketing. They actually have higher power/mm3 than P-cores do. Raptor Lake probably still mogs arrow lake and ryzen just due to being monolithic though.
>>107911429Not particularly, I'm upgrading from a 1k corsair, but it seemed prudent to go for an atx3.1 instead of the older Corsair models
>>107911356>no spinning rustAkshually helium drives are pretty low wattage when idling
>>107911504Be aware that SeaSonic will be releasing new Prime PSUs with safer GPU protection features.I wouldn't spend $400~500 when a safer PSU design will be out, even if it takes 1~2 years to release.Even the mainstream Seasonic Focus 1000W should be good enough to safely power a 5090.https://seasonic.com/insights/seasonic-optiguard-for-gpu/
>>107911094>>107911097ray-dee-on
>>107911531Sure, 5-10W idle, 15-25W during spin-up.
>>107911531i have two ST12000NE0007 and they are still like 10 to 15w
is there any redemption for a waitfagyears more without a desktop
Why does pcpartpicker let me choose rdimm memory when there are no compatible rdimm mainboards listed?
>>107911581>ST12000NE0007 and they are still like 10 to 15wTotal maybe.Your drives LITERALLY can't pull more than ~10W each at full load. And idle around 3-5W.
>>107911327>>107911429>No fan failure protectionOvertemperature protection in these PSUs is enough to protect the PSU and the entire PC in the event of a broken PSU fan.It's not the end of the world to not have fan failure protection.
>>107911615idk man i got two of them and one of those power meter thingies and if spin them down i save like 25 to 30 w at idle.
I trust Seasonic PSUs I like having a reliable brand I can trust, like Wacom with pen tablets
>>107911581I better check my Toshiba MG07's
>77" LG B4 - 1397€>55" LG G5 - (was)1473€>55" samsung s95f - 1467€any reason not to take a 77" TV Pill
>see local MC has a MSI 5080 for $1180what's a fair price for a 5080? i want to coom with local diffusion
>>107911639i used to think this till i found out my old antec psu which was a rebrand of a highly rated seasonic psu, actually wasn't that good and was a housefire waiting to happen if used with modern components.
>>107911633anon, your motherboard ALSO uses power to power the SATA lanes. When your drives actually go to sleep (not just idle but still active) then your motherboard can put the SATA controller to sleep as well. Also, those power meter thingies are reading power draw from the wall, you're including your PSU's inefficiency in your calculation, and your PSU is probably only ~85-90% effieicnt. So your numbers are inflated from that as well. If I were to guess, ~10W is the SATA controller and chipset, ~8-12W for the HDDs, and then the remainder is just your PSU not being 100% efficient.
wanna get 9070 for my 3600 ryzen and some hot ass monitor
>>107911661Get a 77" G5.
>>107911485I would cancel and restart it with the additional flag I gave you (/XA:SH ) then bc the page file might have hung it. Are you sure it's not waiting on you to Y/N something? Can't say again bc I'm at work on a shit phone and would love to quick check on my own PC with what I got scripted, I don't memorize all parameters
waitfags we keep waiting and winningpanicfags keep panic buying
>>107911664$1180 for a 5080 Gaming Trio isn't too bad.It's bad for a 5080 Ventus/Shadow.
>>107911198i never had less than 3is it because i scrub my cookies everytime I can?
>>107911721Yes
>>107911562
>>107911705it's working as the progress percentage is going up, and it just finished the pagefile. it's just taking a long ass time. i think i'll just leave it till it's done and then verify everything afterwards.
>>107911712it's shadow, I guess I'll pass, thx fren
>>107911724welp.i dont mind it that much except for the stars one I hate that one with passion
>>107911425>$27 per TBIs this really the future were living in
>>107911426Werent Msi The ones to come up with the yellow connector thing and how if the yellow is still visible it isnt plugged in
>>107911094nice faggot opu keep saying how 8gb is not enough for 1080 yet i run everything on my 6gb cardliteral faggot shills
>>107911774Just make 4chan an exception when you clear cookies.
>>107911783I LOVE GOING BACK TO 2013
>>107911783No, he's just a retard.$19-24/TB is still available.
ROG Strix XG32UCWGAnyone own this? I want a new monitor, is this too much for a 5070TI? I like that the stand is small I don't use monitor arms so that's a big plus
>>107911783Better than $200 per TB with SSDs due to gay AI faggotry.
>>107911787It's not about the yellow connector, the thermal protection thermistor shilled by ASRock is measuring the ground pin's temperature when the overheating +12V pins cause the connector to melt.The overtemperature warning kicks in too late.You could argue it's better than nothing, but I'd rather get a different high-end PSU and install everything properly.I don't care if FSP built that ASRock PSU.
>>107911851are you really going to use refresh rate above 144Hz?
>>107911864>measuring the ground pin's temperature when the overheating +12V pins cause the connector to melt.How do you fuck this up?
>>107911454Really? I'm based in the UK so that's probably why I'm seeing worse prices
>>107911903It only does 4K at 165Hz and I doubt 5070TI will reach that anyway
>>107911921you can get a 2tb sn580 for £79.99 right now
>>107911921UK HDD prices are shit, have been for years and they've gotten worse since last year. We always pay way more than Americans do for HDDs. SSD prices were good but they've ben getting shit too now
>>107911903Not him but yes.
>>107911914It's ASRock's cable design, but someone at FSP should've suggested something better.
RAMaggedonGPUcalypse SSDrought Copperflation
>>107911952Sure but its still miles better than European prices
>wanted to buy a 40/50 series gpu>remember mfg and the 12vhfr connector existsWhy didn't I buy a fucking 3090...
>>1079120713090s have a higher likelihood of randomly dying; there's a reason why the 3090 Ti got substantial power delivery design changes.NVIDIA's decision to use two cheaper voltage controllers for the 3090 and 3080/Ti causes one of the DrMOS to die from all the transient overcurrent spikes.GPU repairers are not even surprised to see these cards with a blown DrMOS at this point.
>>107912151i should've bought a 3090 upon release before the covid era shortage but it has a massive PSU requirement and I didn't want to buy a new PSU, thus got cucked, in retrospect a release 3090 would've been the highest value even to this day
>>107912172>i should've bought a 3090 upon releaseNo, I told you these have a power design flaw.NorthwestRepair uploaded a 3090 Ventus repair video with a blown DrMOS two days ago.I wasn't even searching for this specific repair video.https://youtu.be/QV_12agqNOg?t=193The worst part about this power delivery flaw is that you can't completely avoid it even with overbuilt VRMs.There are plenty of dead Strix, Suprim, and Aorus Master 3090s with a dead DrMOS.
>>107912151I read about this before buying my 3080 a couple years ago during the shortage and i was desperate at the time because I needed a new GPU and didnt want to settle for a weak card. Mine has been fine paired with a 750w PSU, which i went out of the way to get for that specific reason. I've also undervolted it, so fingers crossed. It only needs to last another year or so till the 60 series which is when I'll next upgrade.
>>107912071You're a double dumbass.
>>1079121513090 Ti's design should have been standard but I guess NVIDIA was too cheap for basic shit like current balancing and adding more shunt resistors like they used to. The WORST part is that even Astral GPUs dont solve the problem because the PCB is still virtually unmodified because NVIDIA is fucking insane and won't let AIBs fix it.
>>107912238Maybe it's less likely, but AIBs can only add more phases to the board to increase the card's maximum power load.The 3090 Ti arguably has the safest board design.
>For similarly price Radeon RX 9070 has 68.4% better 3DMark score compared to GeForce RTX 5060 Ti 16GB .novidya lmaoooo
If I can't have a 3090 Ti for a grand I should just spend 2 grand on a RTX Pro 6000 Blackwell while I can.
>>107912261The fact that nvidia has to legally strongarm AIBs to not change the load balancing makes me wonder if they actually just did it cause its cheaper than on the 3090 Ti somehow
>>107912276>RTX Pro 6000 Blackwell>2 grand
>even the Arc B580 has increased in pricegrim days
>>107912309nooo intelbros
>>107912304Meant 4000
seeing how people are desperately buying even the 5060ti 8Gb I think 5050s will be gone soonggnvidia and hwunboxed you did it
>>107912214Undervolting and power-limiting the 3080 to around 250~280W should dampen the current spikes the VRM has to take.A variety of games like New World, Diablo 4, World of Warships, etc., were exposing the flaws of these cards at uncapped frame rates.Some developers added a maximum FPS limit in their game's lobby because they didn't want the bad publicity of their product "killing" video cards.
>>107912375Thsts crazy. Nvdia sucks. Ill buy boughted amd
>>107912369DLSS 4.5 killed RDNA4, their biggest shill conceding the even DLSS 4 performance mode was better than FSR4 quality was probably too much for them to handle
>>107912375I generally use much less power than that even at 4K with DLSS. It's a great card though. Absolute champ for the price. Monster performance for 4K gaming 5 years later.
I really should have bought last monthfucking hell900€ for even the shittiest 5070ti now
>>107912455its really over isnt itpic is whats left at my shop
>>107912455Buy boughted amd
>>107912151I'm tempted to try to nab someone's old (EVGA) 3090 Ti.
are you ready to apologize to hwunboxed?https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-reportedly-cuts-gpu-supply-to-board-partners-by-up-to-20alsohttps://videocardz.com/newz/ddr5-prices-in-germany-hit-4-4x-july-2025-levels-even-ddr3-memory-price-keeps-risingayy lmao
>>107912369if you slice that 5050 die just right, you can get two great 4Gb RTX cards from it. So, things aren't all bad...
So where are the retards that were saying RAM prices were ALREADY falling last week and GPUs would be following in the coming days?
>>107912512>this post is rumorandyou know that hwunboxed caused this panic buying right?
>>107912496>boughtedthis board is full of jeets isn't it
>>107911094i buy boughted
>>107912544>you know that hwunboxed caused this panic buying right?watalso i read yesterday that asus ceo will focus on ai only but i cant find the source nowill check if i can track it down
....what's the catch?
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Asus-chairman-confirms-pause-on-smartphone-launches-to-focus-on-AI-technology-like-smart-glasses.1207082.0.htmloh it was notebook check
>>107912544Steve won, now people will finally have to buy RX 9000 series
>>107912512AMD's gaming group will order fewer GDDR6 chips for Radeon cards if that helps Sony buy millions of 6nm PS5 & Pro AMD SoCs.The memory shortage will affect all GPU brands.
Anything extra worth buying for PC? Like I mean for internalI'm buying one of these and wondering now Maybe I should get a networking card then I'd have two Ethernet ports
Honestly I'm starting to be pretty okay with the death of local computeEvery day I become more aware that 99% of things you do with powerful PC hardware in your own home are degenerateComputers should be for work and nothing else
>>107912582Check whether AOC provides user-upgradeable firmware updates for that monitor.
what if they just made gpus with socketed ram, would it solve anything
>>107912618>Maybe I should get a networking card then I'd have two Ethernet portsUnless you plan on running your PC as a router, what's the point?
>>107912624shut up jeff
I really though I was never gonna use my m1 macbook ever again after building my PC, but its so nice having it open on the side when Im playing a game or something and dont wanna tab out, I might even upgrade my macbook when the new ones come out.
>>107912624prude, yet on 4chan>curious
>>107912649saar please refrain from posting bharat_nation, it is for indian consumption only
>>107912657I never claimed to not be a hypocrite but I still would be in favor of shutting down 4chan My only real issue with cloud computing is that it's in the hands of the same companies that want to shovel infinite AI slop down your throat
>>107912582you need dsc for displayport but not hdmi
went from a 3080 to 5070 ti because of the incoming shortages. seems a bit of an underwhelming upgrade but what can you do. was going to get the 5080 but it would've cost 40% more lol
>>107912582isnt AOC a budget brand
>>107912771You're a huge faggot. Just go become fertilizer you insufferable asshole. Lest this faggot farms for you (You)s don't reply to this stupid short sighted cunt.
The choice to focus on the most popular and lowest-cost SKUs (the 8GB and 12GB cards) is the best thing for the vast majority of consumers. It's very unfortunate for enthusiasts like us, who want and are willing to pay for higher-tier cards with more VRAM. But we are a small minority of the market. Nvidia has to make tough decisions about where to allocate their limited supply of chips and VRAM, and focusing on the most popular cards ensures that GPUs get to the most people possible.
