Do any of those learning language's apps work?
>>107914526does any of them provide you with snippets of literature and actual practice for conversations? if not then no
Anki, maybe, the rest I assume are ass and rely too much on gamification.
>>107914526My granparents were german so I was exposed to the language very early on even though I didn't speak it daily or studied in any capacity before. By the time I heard about negrolingo, all I had left was a cold distant memory thereof, but somehow that 6yo-tier bits of german helped me get context and many words quite easily so I indeed managed to step up my german game with the app.No idea what it would have been like to start from absolute nothing, though.
>>107914526They're good supplements. They increase your vocabulary through gamified rote memorization, which isn't the best but it works in tandem with a proper grammar program.If you want an app to learn Spanish, I can't recommend Language Transfer enough. Don't use it for German because their German lessons suck, but the Spanish is gold. It will take you to basic conversationalist in about 3 to 4 months, provided you follow their instructions. Speak out loud when it asks you to. Don't skip lessons even if you feel like you already know the topic. It's part of the process. Trust the plan.
>>107914603>learn SpanishShitskin language, do not redeem.
The whole thing is really gamified and there are almost endless better resources out there. Faster, higher quality, free, etc. However, I'm using Duolingo to keep up the habit of practicing just a little bit of Spanish everyday, some more days than other. It made a difference last time I visited Guatemala. I learned Spanish years ago though, if I was just starting out with the language I think Duolingo would suck. I don't use it for practicing French cause I get to speak that at my work. If you're just beginning a language, don't start with the apps. There are faster ways to get a really solid foundation built up. But if you're looking to keep up the habit of practicing a language you can't in your day to day life, yeah they can be okay.
>>107914526go to the target language's country and live there for 9 months or moresimple assuper bonus efficacy if you can completely stop using english while you're there (you can't)
Find a good book that's out of your comfort level in whatever language it is you wish to learn. Go slow and keep a notebook on hand. Great way to study. Also find tv shows you enjoy that are localized in your target language. The Simpsons is an easy one. Use English subtitles to start and then try switching them over to your target language. Plenty of longer form videos on YouTube of simple conversations specifically to help practice.
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>>107914644I don't like the gamification of learning but I don't know of any that can teach me grammar
>>107914526just save some money up and go to the country for a few months. it will be, by far, the fastest way.
>>107915349I'd try learning this directly from AI. You can have it talk to you in any langyage as slowly as you need to pick it up.
>>107914526what's the use case for something working?
>>107914526>duolingo>2026Duolingo was killed when they removed user comments. I prefer Rosetta Stone, at least it is not that woke.
None of them work, you can only learn a language with immersion
>>107914592It helps that German is probably the most similar yuro language to English
I want to learn finnish for the memes but none of the apps or whatever ever have decent lessons for it because nobody else cares
>>107915493>Germandutch and french. english and french use the same sentence structure and 60% of the english vocab is french (which is to say, latin part deux), and the rest of the english vocab is more similar to dutch, as that is the closest to the old germanic language that crossed the channel with the saxons. a lot of the 'german' seems to be because the royal family is german, and they needed to shore up their popularity because everyone hated them (oh look, we're really the same and also better and shit). a lot of the latin words in english started being because of anglo saxons, not because latin was spoken for 400 years.thank you for your attention to this matter.
>>107915513It's an awful language and Finns are terrible people. Actually most nords are fucking awful to deal with. They're not a friendly or fun or interesting or useful people at all. Or people at all.
>>107915553>It's an awful languageYeah that's why it's interesting. That or hungarian, but finland has snow so I defaulted to finnishI don't really wanna learn germanic european language #1231 or romance european language #45439 they're all boring. And the other choices are chingchongspeak, ngubuspeak, or the two uralic european languages
>>107914526Wish they did. Reading grammar guides and sentence mining is a fucking pain.
>>107915592German is so up the ass it's actually a superpower. The only 3 langs anybody in tech will ever need are english, german and, believe it or nor, russian. Everything else out there won't buy you a block of cheese combined.
>>107914526The only way to learn is to go to the imageboard of the language you want to learn and just shitpost there. Translate every word if needed.
>>107914526duolingo is great for learning kana, but they go out of their way to NOT teach you kanji or new vocabulary. their arabic course is great for learning the alphabet though.duo is also now unusable as a free service because of their "energy" system that replaced the "heart" system. before, you could practice indefinitely as long as you didn't make more than 4 mistakes per day.that being said, duolingo will never teach you any sort of grammatical rules, which is the foundation of any language. lingodeer is far better for japanese.>>107914558memrise is great for learning useful phrases and vocabulary over the basics, but it gets pretty hard pretty quick because japs chatter at the speed of light. i spent $200 on a lifetime subscription and i don't have to pay shit anymore.Cattus is a great free resource for latin, it's pretty grammar heavy but simple.
>>107914526Duoling is trash. I use Readle and Clozemaster for deutsch
>>107914526Bunpro but only bc it's just Anki with lessons and a bunch of other shit tacked on
>>107914526It's nice talking to Lily, it makes me feel like i have cute Japanese girlfriend who cares about meAs for alternatives i use Mazii (primarily a dictionary but it offers all kinds of lessons including reading news and articles) and Umi (it's like anki but with anime clips) on mobile, on desktop i use the toucan browser extension
>>107915944>russian.i'd believe it, as i have skimmed over some of the mir series of books on archive. russian also seems to translate into english better than german. german to english seems to get very waffley and indeterminate, russian to english seems to get excruciatingly detailed, which is still better than the krautish tongue. it's crazy to think that if russians weren't so hell bent on suffering every moment of every day, what they could have acheived. As for the hun, their main priority has always been the misery of other german types. it seems to be their sole motivator. russians suffer because ahhhhh, motherland, germans suffer because DAS IST THE RULEZ.
I use anki, firefox, yomitan and ankiconnect
>>107915944German is way too similar to english for me to care about learning it>The only 3 langs anybody in tech will ever need are english, german and, believe it or nor, russian.No mandarin?
>>107914659This is the only answer. I learned Hungarian in 8 months, and that language is hard as fuck. To be fair I am 135 IQ, so probably wouldn't work with midwits like the average 4channer
>>107918297135 is midwitt. also 135
