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I'm a cs student and I want to know how much I should practice vibecoding vs old fashioned coding. Personally I find vibecoding is much faster and better.
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if you're a webshitter you should barely be writing any code manually right now
claude code should be writing 90%+ of your code.
you should be learning to manage multiple claudes.
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>cs student
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coding is dead
I'm Ralphing all the time with a mixture of Opus 4.5 to plan and GLM 4.6 to execute
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>>107914843
>I'm a cs student
oh honey... haven't checked the news?
hopefully you don't have any student loans, or your life is gonna be perma fucked
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>>107914907
>>107914924
so basically all techworkers do now is just manage a bunch of LLMs?
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>>107914907
>>107914924
Jeets
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1 tab deepseek, 1 tab chatgpt, 1 tab gemini, 1 tab grok.
Use the prompt "improve this code for <task>" and just keep feeding the output to the next LLM in a loop.
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>>107914843
they suck large ass for whole-project tasks.

Instead they seem good for short functions or just got planning, learning. Like summary of google/reading SO.
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>>107915012
people that never did shit in the first place do this. you could get away with le vibecoding low level tasks for awhile but it would inevitably produce a really fucked up mess that is unmaintainable in the long run.

ai can barely do low level tickets. you can ask it to boilerplate stuff or do some tedious things for you but the idea its replacing anything is retarded like the jeets that spam about ai nonstop
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>>107915035
based. if you keep doing it infinitely, do you end up with an Excel formula for Hello World, or AGI?
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I'm not in webshit so I still get to program
but most small scripts or tools are now vibed
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>>107914843
I use it as a replacement for google/stack overflow and to do tedious tasks (formatting, generating boilerplate, etc), light scripting, and for solving certain bugs/errors but I never allow it to drive my development. I want to be able to maintain the code I ship, and LLMs suck at big projects anyways
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>>107916609
Also, it's almost always faster for me to just do what it is I want than explain what I want to the clanker and give it follow up instructions
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>>107915012
>so basically all techworkers do now is just manage a bunch of LLMs?
no, that's a meme.
Code produced by LLMs is horrible trash that is in instant need of complete rewrite.

It is good to write prototypes, discuss plans, write short functions and fragmenets of code.
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>>107916666
>>so basically all techworkers do now is just manage a bunch of LLMs?
>Code produced by LLMs is horrible trash that is in instant need of complete rewrite.
quints of truth! llm whole-proj coders burn in development hell.
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>>107916666
Cope. It’s better than you
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>>107914843
70-80% or so. give opus a way to test its work and a good foundation to build on and it does fine
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>>107914843
its fantastic for smaller projects or anything web-based. for large projects its less useful, but its nice having it look over individual files/functions for bug checking or logic. The main issue is that it's rarely right on the first time and you should really know how to actually program so you can guide it. As a student I would suggest not using it at all so when (if) you get a cs job it'll actually make you a 10x dev instead of just another jeet with chatgpt.
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>>107914907
Hello saar
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>>107915012
Webshitters do, but other programmers don’t.
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>>107914843
>>107915012
There's kinda a war between the AI lovers and the AI haters at my company right now.
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>>107914843
i vibe coded these digits
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>>107917552
Why would there be a war. LLMs are literally faster google, grep for semantics. What's there to hate on?
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>>107917640
sloppa PRs
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>>107917656
If someone is dumb enough to actually write their PR with AI and not correct it according to their own standards, why were they hired?
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>boss needs a report done about something
>fire up copilot and know how to get the powershell I want
>look at it to confirm script is right
>run in test
>run in prod

Any time a request comes in for "what AD accounts are...." I just instantly pop it into copilot, I know the flags and shit but man less typing is preferred.
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>>107914843
used some a few months ago when the company gave us license to do so, have completely tapered off of using it, I know some colleagues that dump all their questions into this garbage and sure enough their work too becomes trash from doing so, if you want a debilitating tool to do minor changes, sure you can use it but on anything that's substantial you're fucked
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>>107915012
yes. you can believe the retards in itt or listen to the guy who created node.js



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