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you're going to feel better when you stop caring about it. I have a lot of kaczynski adjacent anti tech sentiment especially towards smartphones but the world you grew up is not returning. Western people especially today want to live in the past but you will feel much better when let yourself go with the flow and accept that world changes constantly. cherish the past but find good things to have hope about the future
People never wanted cars before they got to use them. A lot of people were skeptical, and cars have negatively changed human life by eroding local communities through city planning as an example. Most technology has affected human life negatively because human psychology is not adapted to social and economic structure of modern world but there's nothing you can do about it. you could become amish, but if you want to participate in modern society you just have to accept that it's here to stay. For now the techonology has stagnated and its influence seems to be somewhat major but still limited. Just treat it as another tool. I've challanged myself to utilize LLMs, try to find a way it makes your life easier. Google search has become useless, my favorite way of thinking about LLMs is as an aggregate of knowledge you can find on the internet. I use it to summarize things for i know other people have asked. I like using it for cooking, it's pretty nice for making problems for learning especially language learning, you can push it to explain to you things that would've taken hours to research on their own about biology or economy if you know how it works.
yeah the internet is botted to shit and it only accelerated the slopification of products but what can you do? replace your time on the internet with something else, maybe old media? exercise? learn something new?
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>>107916709
i'm just procrastinating
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>>107916691
>yeah the internet is botted to shit and it only accelerated the slopification of products but what can you do? replace your time on the internet with something else, maybe old media? exercise? learn something new?
you know you can choose the content yorue watching right?

i still interact with the internet like i did before aislop
and the only difference from my perspective is ainiggers shilling shatbots on /g/. thats it. oh, and access to said shatbots, i use em daily, theyre pretty good at select tasks like being an interface to google search
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>>107917009
4chuck is botted to hell and back you're a fucking clown if you cant see it
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>>107916691
Internet is fucking shit now. All form of digital art is dead, music is dead, forums are dead. Even if internet 2 was invented nobody would stop niggers from spamming it with aislop
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>>107917021
i dont post outside of /g/
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>>107917032
and you don't notice the bots?
>>107917030
it's not all due to AI but it certainly helps
i fucking hate the modern world so much. The half life of any media instead of decades is months or even weeks. i still listen to music from 70-90s, play 90-00s games. etc.
literature is also dead but i'm not that suprised by it. technology is also dead, it's all technofeudalism 0 local consumer software
they even took fucking political extremism, anime and basement dwelling from me it's all fucking mainstream. i'm just fucking doing side quests at this point, fucking around with computers, cooking and music and old media
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>>107917054
>muh bots
bots dont respond to psychological abuse the same as live users do
its not bots. its retards and autists
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>>107917061
you have the same bait threads every single day
also /g/ is dead the traffic is half of what it used to be. tinkertrooning is dead and so is luke smith, job market is dead, programming is dead. the board is basically done
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>>107917054
>>107917061
to clarify: im talking about /g/
i heard theres actual bots on other boards
but there doesnt seem to be that many on /g/
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>>107917054
Honestly there’s nothing worth doing on the internet. When 4chan dies, no imageboard will replace it.
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>>107917072
>you have the same bait threads every single day
thats autism for you. and the associated repetitive behaviours
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>>107917072
>no more stallmanposting
>no more schizo privacy threads
>no more troonux ricing threads
>most threads are just about aislop
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>>107917072
>>107917078 cont
oooor
its shartyPEDOS. users from an alt chan whose whole culture is to post bait
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>>107917073
ok maybe it's not as bad as other boards but the average user of /g/ today is a thirdie talking about fucking phones or some other normie consoomer shit or gpus or video games
>>107917077
probably
twitter going somewhat uncensored completely wrecked 4chan
i have a local imageboard i started lurking with like 100-150 users online because 4chan got so bad
>>107917087
sharty used to be good now it's a glorified discord server
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>>107917083
/v/ermin, reddit drowning out the signal
/lgbt/ lends a hand from time to time, they like to post consumershit and suck up to big corpo
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>>107917093
>/lgbt/
The fucking "programming socks" meme ruined Linux and programming
I don’t remember troons using Linux or getting into coding before that
AI was the final nail
>>107917091
Sharty was somewhat funny up to 2023 but now it feels so fucking forced and gay
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>>107917110
i agree, it used to be great when it was 4chan migrants on there not fuckign twitter and kiwisharts tourists
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>>107917091
>used to be good
when? i posted there 2 years ago, it was already garbage

>ok maybe it's not as bad as other boards but the average user of /g/ today is a thirdie talking about fucking phones or some other normie consoomer shit or gpus or video games
yeah. native /g/ posters are a minority on this board

we can fight back against this, and we sometimes do
but the community has to make a coordinated effort
and this happens once in a blue moon, only when *all of us are toroughly fed up with retard threads
AND decide to shitpost all at once

we could also mass report the shit threads, but most anons dont report.
i know this for a fact, sometimes theres a shit thread with 20 posts seething about the janies inaction
and the thread gets nuked not even 3 minutes after i report it

start reporting shit threads
and use "this post is extremely low quality" liberally
it didnt work when we had a truly tranny janny
but thats what i pick when i report, the most
kinda like
>this thread is shit and doesnt belong here I THINK
then its up to the jany to make the decision
if 50 people report a thread as extremely low quality, thats gonna weigh on things
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>>107917126
prepare for 2 weeks to a month for "raid"
janitors dont give a fuck i got RANGE PERMA BANNED for posting a fucking picture that's been posted hundreds of times of a clothed 17 year old
i got a WEEK ban for "ToT" with no picture
the current janny belongs in a fucking asylum
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>>107917126
>reporting
Nah that doesn’t work. 4chan is being deliberately sabotaged by its jannies and admins. They don’t care about this place. That’s why they never updated 4chan since 2015 and got hacked by the Sharty during 2025.
But you are partially right too, because retards keep engaging those bait threads and bumping them.
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>>107917145
/j/ leaks, qa situation, [s4s] and especially the sole fucking existence of /trash/ tell you fucking everytihng about those retards
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>>107917152
Im sure this thread will be deleted
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>>107917182
when the trannitor stops erping on trash and jp
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>>107917145
it does work
jannies nuke something like 50% of what i report
i dont report too often though
still, i mostly use "this post is extremely low quality", so the mildest form of report

i get the impression sometimes the jany is waiting for someone, anyone to report a thread because he wants to nuke it but he cant be too heavy-handed either

i wont disagree with the "0 shits given" part, though
the ai slop is a problem for many boards
the consumershit is a problem for ours

im sure some anons from here or other boards complained about the aislop
but nothing is done about that cancer'

>engaging bait threads
you dont really have a choice. if you wont engage them soon all the catty gets filled with bait
what works though, is bans. immediate, repeated, merciless bans. sends a signal the board is maintained
or systematic psychological abuse, short of that. that works too, kek
we dont see that much sharty lingo on our board these days, do we? psychological abuse solved that, not bans. they evade

im sure shartoids are still here, but they hide where they come from, kek
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>>107917200
I mean when crypto stuff became popular moot opened /biz/ I don’t get why they don’t create an /ai/ board.
Plus, AI is mainly being used as a weapon to annoy and demoralize /g/ anons.
>psychological abuse
I don’t think shartycucks really care if they are insulted or humiliated. It’s their culture after all. I think "feeding the troll" just to insult them won’t work in the long run.
>Sharty lingo
Their fucking culture got raped by TikTok and xitter lol. The Sharty can’t produce memes anymore and I’m sure most of those "Gem" or "coal" posters aren’t even from that place.
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Private level AI is shit.
>LLMs
Pretty straightforward and easy to install. About 90% accuracy.
>Image generation
Not too bad. A bit more challenging to get installed, but overall pretty solid.
>Image manipulation
Touchy and a pain in the ass to get up and going. Probe to "break."
>TTV + cloning
Complete dogshit. Broken as hell. Clearly developed by researchers and not actual software engineers.
>Video generation.
Also dog shit. Market flooded with broken models and incompatiblity.
Pretty sure this all on purpose to push to you use commerical level paid cloud AI where you told what you can and can't do.
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>>107917239
>I don’t think shartycucks really care if they are insulted or humiliated.
you couldnt be more wrong

at a certain point i started responding to soiduels with very discrediting screenshots of what i saw on their site

immediately they introduced a weird sort of captcha where you had to show you know sharty culture to be merely allowed into their site
that was 22 years ago, they removed it in the meantime
prolly because they saw their numbers plummet, kek
and everytime i post my shit it gets them seething
sometimes they give up their shitposting immediately
sometimes a >t. shartoid was enough to make em stop and abandon thread immediately
believe me, they do care

but again, what solved the problem was a unified response of the community
once everybody started to recognize them, and to shit on em, they posted less and less often
and now i dont see any "geeeeg" "clitty" etc thats associated with shitposting anymore
theyre either hiding the fact that they come from the sharty or stopped shitposting here.
or they evolved their bait tactics and they post aislop.

i think one of them was making the 'is programming the new coal mining' threads in the past couple days
in one of them i posted a first post that nuked ops assumptions
the thread turned into general shitposting, chanology and such, everything BUT ai-lmaoo.

i dont think that thread is gonna get reposted again.
because we collectively shat on op and his bait
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1058th tech bro to say that this shit is like when cars replaced horses. Ai is barely even new technology, basically doing a massive amount of algorithms. This shit drips so much gimmick that I will bet my entire net worth of one twoonie, that Ai will start copying itself until its quality gets so garbage, or so obvious that it will only be capable of doing repetitive tasks, like generating some pornography on /r/.
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>>107917323
pff even now ai-lmaoo sucks cock
i mean
i like it, i use this tool alot
but not for what its advertised as
and certainly not for what the ai shills supposedly use it
its just unsuitable for that.

picrel is a fail of the shatbot, but its actually one of the productive ways you can use one
you throw keywords, information at it
and look at what correlates with what you gave it
theres no intellect behind the screen though, and so it failed here (it didnt "understand" the causality of things).

but yeah, a shatbot is severly limited in what it can do. its a matter of the technology being just unsuitable for certain tasks.
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>weird captcha
I think it was that captcha where you had to select a specific soijak variant (cobson, feraljak etc) right? Kek that captcha did a number on the Sharty. I don’t get why they want to save their faces so fucking much lol, its supposed to be a fucking "comedy website" but they take everything so personal so maybe you are right, they really care.
> they posted less and less often
and now i dont see any "geeeeg" "clitty" etc thats associated with shitposting anymore
Good point, I haven’t seen a proper soiduel recently, hell, they used to steal gets and use that babybot to rape 4chan but it doesn’t work anymore I guess.
Now the main problem on this board is AI baiters and literal pedos
I remember reading on their wiki that they wanted to create or use some kind of LLM just to spam here with retarded baits
but I don’t think they would be capable of creating that
Regarding pedos, I’ve seen literal CSAM posted here recently, luckily Jannies remove those posts almost immediately after reporting them. But they don’t seem to stop
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>>107917314
>>107917362
I forgot to quote
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>>107917083
Stallmanposting is pointless when even normies are switching to Linux because of how much of a downgrade W11 is over W10.
Schizo privacy threads died because those who took real care of their privacy no longer post on the internet, and those who stayed realised that with current AI tech and Palentir connecting all data there is into one supernetwork makes giving fuck about your privacy data nothing but larp.
Troonix is the same
And you forgot coding, which is also dying because of AI
And finally PC building which is also dying because of AI driving hardware prices through the roof.
The only technology left to talk about is AI because it’s important enough to have 10+ trillion dollars globally invested in it (over 10% of global GDP), and because there is no /ai/ board to talk about it.
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>>107917474
This is quite sad but I guess almost every single hobby has been turned into a slop machine
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>>107917323
Large portion of the internet was voted for a long time now, yet models keep improving. Seems they got around system collapse in data collection.
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>>107917491
Yeah, people would hate AI way less if it came after jobs like doctors first, something that sucks for medical students but is net positive for everyone else who needs health advice or cheap surgery. However it came first for hobbies which nobody asked for, produces no revenue to the AI companies and just makes people see it as spam.
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>>107917431
(1/2)
>Kek that captcha did a number on the Sharty.
keeeek. yeah, that exact captcha. that was all my doing. one sole anon made the might sharty tremble in their stilettos and almost made them commit commercial sudoku

>Now the main problem on this board is AI baiters and literal pedos
>Regarding pedos, I’ve seen literal CSAM posted here recently, luckily Jannies remove those posts almost immediately after reporting them. But they don’t seem to stop
yeah, pedos are the oooooooooooooooooldfags
degenerate anons who post here since way back when /g/ stood for guro
heck, guro is disturbing hentai, they were fucked in their brains in early 2000's already
since then they "graduated" into child porn. its desensitization, and the subsequent thrill chasing that made em like that
they'll never stop. therye borked in the head, and they want this board back. theyre constantly probing, checking if they can create a foothold
but yeah, mods are on our side with this one, so its a problem thats never gonna go away, but not a too grave one

aiposters though, theyre a real problem. ragebait, and doomerposts make good people leave
doomposting gets even to me. the only filter i have on this board, is for ops containing "ram". too much negativity just demoralizes me and i dont want to even engage, i just close the tab

consumerposting is a big problem too id say. it creates an environment which incites other consumergroids to post their normie shit.
and, obviously, there always will be more consoomers than people who create tech, so our voices get drowned in the barrage of inanity.
further dissuading good people from engaging the board, because who youre gonna be talking to? were writing programs, create technology, tinker with stuff
but every op on the board seems to be about some ipple ifone, or a retard shilling windows with a pedobait picture, or asking about game controllers
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>>107917435
(2/2)
its not an environment thats inciting to nerds to post their nerd-ry
also nerds tend to be quiet, tranquil people. we tend to avoid conflict, so a nerd is more likely to just close the tab and go on with their lives, than try to reclaim their board
and so we keep losing good people.
less good people make fewer good threads
less good threads means more noise in signal to noise ratio
which means more people leave
its a posittive feedback loop
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>>107917474
>And you forgot coding, which is also dying because of AI
nyoo, its investor hype
unless by ai you mean "actually indians"
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>>107917548
> guro is disturbing hentai, they were fucked in their brains in early 2000's already
It’s hard to imagine a 45 yo oldfag still posting vile shit as if it was 2005. Maybe some people just never overcome their edgy phase.
AI has demoralized me a little bit honestly, especially because I’m not a good programmer and I’ve seen normalfags in real life bragging that they had created apps using Claude or similar stuff. But in the end I guess there’s gonna be more jobs for real programmers fixing all those bugged apps because for what it seems, AI produces "functional code" but not optimized or with bad security practices, and it’s getting incredibly expensive for OpenAI and similar companies to provide those models for free.
Regarding ram I have the feeling that China is gonna copy and mass produce those chips, but that’s just a guess though.
>>107917559
Ironically most nerds engaged in Usenet flamewars lol, but I that was a completely different era.
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>>107917791
(1/2)
>It’s hard to imagine a 45 yo oldfag still posting vile shit as if it was 2005. Maybe some people just never overcome their edgy phase.
when one is consumed by a vice, after a while, its all they got left. *any vice. its valid for money, gluttony, sex, obv., drugs, alcohol, cheap entertainment

>AI has demoralized me a little bit honestly,
just use it yourself, problem solved.
if its sufficient for your usecase, then you found yourself a new tool
if its not, then you'll know its shit
in either case, its wont demoralize you anymore
if you think about employement, its kinda fucked though. not because of ai, but because of covid, and now because everything gets outsourced to india
even though i saw on /g/ that fresh graduates have 6% unemployment rate. didnt check that though. i did cs when i was 30, employment in the field was never an option, so i dont really care abot the job market

>I have the feeling that China is gonna copy and mass produce those chips, but that’s just a guess though.
oh yeah, sure, i think the same. theres tons of money on the table now that western producers have basically left the consumer market
thats not what demoralizes me though. the whole ram discussion is an extension of >you will own nothing, and you will be happy
if it was merely about ram, it would have been a non-issue. just pay more. yeah, it sucks, but its not like its the end of the world.
the direction the world is taking is what demoralizes me. THAT is be the end of the world, as we know it at least
ram prices are merely a symptom
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>>107917791
(2/2)

>Ironically most nerds engaged in Usenet flamewars lol, but I that was a completely different era.
we still have nerds flaming even today, and the exchanges are quite brutal- like in rust vs c threads, for instance
but a big difference between nerds shitposting and normies doing that is that nerds respect intellect. normies dont. normies do sheer psychological abuse
so nerd shitposting isnt as effective on normies as normies shitposting is on nerds
when flaming a normie one has to "talk their language". traumatize even harder than they are capable of
its also an intellectual game though. one has to find the weak points of the opponent first, then apply pressure to their faillure points to be actually effective
also its a distillation of ones personality. their goal is to make you angry. you know theyre full of shit, but repetition gets to the individual, even if what gets repeated is patently false
its a training in self control. actual self control, not only containing ones emotions, but dismantling them, analyzing them, making them a more conscious and controlled process.
at least thats how it worked on me.
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>>107916691
Retards who rejected good tech in the first place (that includes you, OP) are too low IQ to be deserving of it to begin with.
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>>107916691
>I have a lot of kaczynski adjacent anti tech sentiment especially towards smartphones but the world you grew up is not returning.
Smartphones didn't cause people to lose their jobs en masse. Once that fully kicks in with AI (assuming the bubble doesn't pop and bring everything crashing down), a new generation of Kaczynskis will emerge targeting data centers/tech oligarchs/etc.
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>>107917791
>not because of ai, but because of covid
forgot picrel
<this is the nature of how coof impacted the job market
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>>107917873
>just use it yourself, problem solved
Yeah that’s what I’m starting to do, before that, I had been avoiding AI like the plague because "muh my code must have soul" but it seems that it’s impossible now.
>you will own nothing, and you will be happy
Yeah that shit is scary. I remember years ago when google tried to shill their google stadia, but it never took off, but today things are quite different, there are better internet connection, more people spend even more time on the internet, etc. plus , now they can use AI as an excuse to force digital ID or some draconian shit
>>107917880
Yes I think that many nerd flamewars are more "intellectual" or technical oriented. But in the end after a tech discussion at least you "learn" something new or interesting related to tech, meanwhile with normies it’s just psychological abuse lol.
Anyway anon, I’m going to bed, have a nice day or night and good luck with your projects if you are building something.
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>>107918061
its nice to see good people still post on this board.
good luck to you too, anon. were probably gonna need it.
and good night.
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>>107917323
>llms
>algorithms
are you genuinely mentally impaired
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>>107917126
>minority
Those people are near extinction if not gone. We still had some niche good threads on certain topics and even Intel and AMD releases would still get some micro-architecture discussion during COVID. But the amount of topics I could discuss like next generation memory technologies or Hot Chips presentations became impossible to do over the years so I took them elsewhere. I specifically remember making a thread on the first Snapdragon mobile processors information releasing with Oryon lineage last year and getting almost 0 replies or even in the smartphone general until the live event was over. I knew then and there /g/ was dead to me for any up to date in depth tech discussion at large. The only reason I am still here is because there is enough people that are technically impressive and up to date and willing to discuss AI technologies and news and it's been relatively up to date. Once it becomes normalized like the web did after the dot com bubble bursts and that community moves on, I'm gone from /g/ forever.
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>>107917873
>>AI has demoralized me a little bit honestly,
>just use it yourself, problem solved.
I'll use it - albeit somewhat reluctantly - if I'm paid to use it to write code or some shit. Corporate webdev has been soulless for awhile anyway.
I don't use it for personal projects. Even though it would speed me up, it would just feel like a second job.
When it comes to anything artistic like music it's a non-starter. Sadly it's hard to tell what art on the internet is real anymore, I guess the only way forward is IRL friends sharing what they made with each other.
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>>107916691
>People never wanted cars before they got to use them.
Lmm slop is not same as car, faggot
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>>107916691
I am a software engineer and i do use it sometimes. This is by far the best tool we have for giving me basic examples of libraries and technologies we use. It cannot be used to write complete solutions but it can parse stackoverflow much more efficiently than me. Outside of software for me, this tool has purpose .
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>>107917284
>Private level AI is shit.
And commercial too
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LLMs and AI are here to stay, but openAI is the pets.com of our generation and it's going to crash the AI bubble. Remember the dot com bubble? The internet didn't go away after that but it was a massive correction. Expect that.
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>>107918984
blame jay. he almost killed the board at a certain point with his macshilling
blame the admins for not having made an ai board, and a consoomer board
blame the lgbtgroids. i distinctly remember one time when the whole board was filled with normie consumershit AND trany shit
theyre aligned with big corpo. and by lgbtetc i mean people that are part of the movement, not /our/tranies. /our/tranies are anti corpo
blame the pedos, and their /a/ssociates. they always post cognitohazard-levels of retardation
blame /v/ermin. they add to the consumerposting

what else can i tell you?
if you have to go, then go
im here for the discussion about programming. we still have a community here, but for how long?
if nothing is done, our community too will erode into nothing over time
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>>107919041
>Corporate webdev has been soulless for awhile anyway.
was corporate ever non-soulless?

>I'll use it - albeit somewhat reluctantly - if I'm paid to use it to write code or some shit.
what i said above is a method for the other anon to get out of his demoralization
as far as im concerned, llms are fucking useless for code
and i saw webdevs saying just as much on this board

i use llms mostly as human interface with google search
they have a search depth limit though, so sometimes they dont find shit thats actually on the internet and they would have found it if they searched loonger
theyre also decent at producing boilerplate, and minimal working examples
but llms coding autonomously? nah. its not a thing. even the people who work with klod, and get results actually do 50% of the work themselves and then oftentimes still need to correct the llms output, or even rewrite it entirely. the whole klod hype is that its a set of tools that allow you to exploit a mediocre llm to its fullest capabilities. which is nothing to write home anyways. free tier of gpt produces better code, kek

im a goal oriented person though
soul is not a parameter that i dont take into account
i think if you were more down to earth, it would avoid you a good deal of suffering
if soul is not a relevant parameter to you, something being soulless cannot affect you
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>>107916691
Kill yourself shill.



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