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yep /vig/ won go move there instead of baking a dead nigger baby thread and see what actual creativity looks like
I can't get Bing Image Creators to make images of Pepe any more.Fuck Microslop and fuck pajeets.
>>107957222did you try "memefrog"?
>>107957369Yeah, the racist frog is no longer allowed
>>107957544Works on OpenAI api and grok free.Bing fell hard. Sad.
>>107957516I was actually playing with the concept just the other day, I didn't like a lot how it came out though. Let's try to change mood, I guess.>>107957544Letting people characterise him like that was really a mistake.
>>107958043So beautiful
>>107959778They seem to defy gravity to some extent?
uh oh melty
Fuck tranime.
>page 9>that's 3×3>and that's terrible
NBP 2k is back on lmarena, ftr.
It looks like /vig/ is being pruned even from /vg/, lol.https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/555108006/#555108006
>107963705>pedo makes a thread>thread gets prunedpity it doesn't happen on some other boards
>>107963798I didn't really follow the whole drama, but IIRC something related was reportedly behind their exile from /v/, after they squatted for all that time in a board that officially doesn't allow generals. One can only wonder what will happen next.For now they have two threads, including one making moralism about degeneration with furry gens.
I took a break for a few days. Seems like the resident pedo/v/ile exile is rubbing his nips over the thread turning over in the dead of night?
>>107964595Yeah he was.
>>107964595Just biblefag being biblefag, immediately after >107956098 there was https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/554357871/#q555014910 on /vg/.
>>107965275Genuinely hilarious how easily identifiable he is. He just can't keep it to himself.
are we sure it's generating the images or could it just be a gimmicky image search for a hidden database
>>107965570I find it sad myself, if he's not trolling, and probably he's not, it looks like a quite unliveable position.
>107966485unriendly reminder both green and red shall inevitably turn brown
>>107967036
Another version.
There's a tendency to stick flowers everywhere when it thinks it needs flowers.
2 blondes2076 and 627
Arena prompting tip: Reverse grammar order. Sometimes "y is what becomes of x" works when "x is y" doesn't, suggesting it doesn't like certain words together than individually those words are okay, probably a small classifier model.
>>107957222>>107957544since mid 2024
It looks like the whole Grok affair is far from over.https://archive.is/UJdXL
>>107967211>>107967292Yes, now try to feed just the eastern world with this ideology without a culling and way, way, way more wretchedness than what we have with today's systems
>>107972050Don't be shy, post her breastfeeding that goat.
>>107972753If you remove the myths of infinite GDP and consumption growth, I don't see how that has to happen; for instance, just try to imagine what the world might become if Americans consumed the same resources as the average person in the eastern world does. What I see happening instead, within the current system, is ever increasing populations displaced by climate change, conflicts over resources and societies becoming increasingly more authoritarian/fascist.
Anyone's here using genspark? There are too many video generators. Which are the best if I want to animate Oldud and Lildud?
>>107972991You jerked off to Kirk's assassination. KYS.
>>107974042>jerking off to 2A defeating 1Abased
Good tsar, bad boyars
>>107974042
>Elderly Dwarves do a callanetics in a swimming pool.
NBP is good a hallucinating characters
>>107967211>the state suckstrue>THEREFORE SOOCIALISMare you fucking retarded? the only form of anarchy that could work more than two minutes is if you have a free market to provide defense and courts, go buy a copy of Basic Economics
>>107976415>he wants to retain "courts">by definition one of the hierarchical, coercive, tools of the StateI think I've found the retarded here, actually.
>>107976519just because the State uses something doesn't mean it's coercive in and of itself, in this case, the problem is law as legislature and not law as "common law". courts are mutually beneficial to all the people involved. it's a basic way of solving property disputes, as we don't have a harmony of interest. no entity should, however, make law (legislature), just enforce natural law (based on self-ownership and property rights), and anyone should be able to establish a court. The problem with the State is not that i provides law, is that it is the monopolist of that law.
>>107976629>just enforce natural law (based on self-ownership and property rights)There can't be any enforcement by the courts without a hierarchy. And law isn't something you find in nature, codes of conduct can only emerge from mutual, horizontal, agreement, whereas Nature operates by pure principles of survival and adaptation. Anarcho-capitalism is basically fascism with the State privatized, Musk and the other billionaire's private courts and enforcement army/police instead of Trump's ones.
>>107976737>There can't be any enforcement by the courts without a hierarchywhy are hierarchies bad again? voluntary hierarchies appear naturally without the state>And law isn't something you find in nature, codes of conduct can only emerge from mutual, horizontal, agreement, whereas Nature operates by pure principles of survival and adaptationare there any other rational being in nature? the fact you're having this debate with me implies you already accept natural law - you accept I am a separate individual capable of self-ownership (ownership over my brain, my opinions and my body as a whole). From that and from scarcity of resources it is derived that we need a form of conflict resolution that doesn't imply physical violence (violation of one's self ownership), aka property rights. Natural Law is the ultimate way to not devolve into the Law of the Jungle.>Anarcho-capitalism is basically fascism with the State privatized, Musk and the other billionaire's private courts and enforcement army/police instead of Trump's ones.The State is what allows current billionaires to hold the power they do, as they only have to lobby one court. Under anarcho-capitalism you have the right to choose which court you use. Courts which favor the rich instead of doing their job will be extremely economically unviable due to low reputation, no one in their right mind would want to choose a court that always favors one of the sides. Same thing with biased PDAs and whatnot.
politics
>>107976882
>>107976818>why are hierarchies bad again? voluntary hierarchies appear naturally without the stateWhy is the State bad, then? Hierarchies should be avoided because they are oppressive and they self-replicate themselves. Anarchism is by definition against hierarchies. ἀν ἀρχός.>are there any other rational being in nature?To some extent or another, sure. Crows might be more rational than several of our fellow hairless monkeys, even if they don't share our symbolic language. There's nothing of natural in natural law, I accept moral conduct only as an agreed minimum field between agents that share the same symbolic language.>Courts which favor the rich instead of doing their job will be extremely economically unviable due to low reputation, no one in their right mind would want to choose a court that always favors one of the sides.Nonsense. How do you solve the issue of jurisdiction? Pre-agreements? And who's the strong part when it comes to that? The rich. And the system perpetuates itself in an ever more perfect form...
>>107976818>Under anarcho-capitalism you have the right to choose which court you use. Courts which favor the rich instead of doing their job will be extremely economically unviable due to low reputation, no one in their right mind would want to choose a court that always favors one of the sides.Who is going to enforce these court decisions? Fucking Aquaman?
>>107976923>Anarchism is by definition against hierarchiesno, anarchism, by definition, is again a government, a coercive monopoly on violence. rejecting all hierarchies is nonsense, even something as basic as a doctor and their patient is a hierarchy>To some extent or another, sure. Crows might be more rational than several of our fellow hairless monkeys, even if they don't share our symbolic language. There's nothing of natural in natural law, I accept moral conduct only as an agreed minimum field between agents that share the same symbolic language.comparing crows to humans is insane. firstly, crows don't debate morals, it's not a concern of theirs. The rest of the answer is nonsense.>Nonsense. How do you solve the issue of jurisdiction? Pre-agreements? And who's the strong part when it comes to that? The rich. And the system perpetuates itself in an ever more perfect form...Jurisdictions are contractual, yes. However, you aren't forced to accept any contract, actually with thriving market competition the ones who offer the most fair contracts are the ones who thrive. If a rich entity uses biased courts no one (not even other companies which that entity depends on) will want to make business with them, driving them into bankruptcy. The less wealthy aren't powerless mostly because of their sheer number.>>107976925PDAs (Private Defense Agencies). When someone violates the NAP they are no longer defended under it.
Just stay inside and get benched by your 8ft girlfriend and ignore the phantom leg.
>>107976925>no, anarchism, by definition, is again a government, a coercive monopoly on violence. rejecting all hierarchies is nonsense, even something as basic as a doctor and their patient is a hierarchySure, never mind that the first thinker who used the term literally said that propriety is theft... just so anarcho-capitalists could rob the term anarchic itself and use it to defend propriety. Anyway, short of the State's intervention (e.g. compulsory health treatment), the doctor-patient thing is a voluntary, relational and trust-based connection. There's no *power* involved.>comparing crows to humans is insane. firstly, crows don't debate morals, it's not a concern of theirs. The rest of the answer is nonsense.Many animals show ethical behaviour, often more than some persons out there who debate morals without practising ethics, if you're ignorant or a (post)Christian exceptionalist moralfag about it, I can't help it.>However, you aren't forced to accept any contract, actually with thriving market competition the ones who offer the most fair contracts are the ones who thrive.In a capitalistic society with no antitrust, nothing is going to prevent the already existing monopolies and oligopolies from becoming ever more entrenched. And when it comes to basic necessities, water, foodstuff, energy, one just can't simply walk away. That's real *power* and *hierarchy* that a few are going to have on most people.
>>107977494 (Me)I've obviously misquoted the post... it was meant for >>107977117Apologies.
>>107977494>never mind that the first thinker who used the term literally said that propriety is theftI don't care about what Proudhon said. Simple as. >Many animals show ethical behaviourI specifically said "debate". Non-human animals do not debate any moral or ethical questions. Non-human animals do not have the same level of deliberation as people do. Animals cannot acknowledge each other's self-ownership, so they do not possess the same level of understanding of others as we do (exactly because in animal societies might makes right). The exact moment you started using arguments to convince me your world view is the correct one instead of beating me up you're already using human exclusive reasoning.>nothing is going to prevent the already existing monopolies and oligopolies from becoming ever more entrenched Monopolies cannot appear without a state. Once again, go read a good economics book. The reason monopolies appear is artificial barrier to entry caused by the State, especially in the basic necessities that you mention. In a truly capitalist society there will be multiple providers of the same good. If a dominant entity decides to raise prices above market people will switch to other providers, and in turn ruin that company's profit>inb4 but muh cartelcartels are extremely unstable because they benefit the least successful actors in detriment of more successful actors and one company that disrespects the cartel can easily destroy it acquiring massive profits for itself
>>107956076I only want to generate one photorealistic image of a person ( waifu ) wearing headphones. I tried a few of them are not that great. Please recommend. Just need a single image
Couldn't let this misgen slip by
>He shoulda just complied, sweaty
>>107978414species affirming care.
>>107978427I guess this would also qualify
This one would be neat if it weren't for the fifth leg
Still no porn huh?
>>107979326That's what the /aco/ threads are for.
>>107979326shut the fuck up
>>107975278Prompt pls? :3
>>107972991>If you remove the myths of infinite GDP and consumption growthAgreed, that have to go> just try to imagine what the world might become if Americans consumed the same resources as the average person in the eastern world does.Under economical feudalism with the rich handpicked by whomever is in govenrment? Which leads to authoritarianism, merely for the maintenance of profit interests? I'm from a country like that, hard pass>ever increasing populations displaced by climate changeWeird way to spell "migrants from india and africa". We all know migration is a neoliberal measure to give consummerism impulse and any kind of public support for it on a globalized world is demoralization at best>>107974984>peaceful observerWhat newspeak bullshit that turned out to be, eh>the other two are decent people killed by the stateWeird way to spell "demoralized useful idiots starting shit disrupting police operations to accelerate crisis because of ostensive partisan propaganda until the dumbest and most insistent shit starters get killed so partisans can pounce on it"Yes, man, you're not getting ecoanarchism. You're getting "robbed and killed by somalians and mexicans in way larger numbers than ICE deaths during protests and arrest operations, but no one in the party cares for one more leftist being killed by a minority thug". Enjoy the fantasy while it lasts. At least make the fox woman hot or something, it will distract people of how much your bullshit can't stand reality
>>107982043>Under economical feudalism with the rich handpicked by whomever is in govenrment?Under de-centralised socialism.>We all know migration is a neoliberal measure to give consummerism impulse and any kind of public support for it on a globalized world is demoralization at bestLarge scale migrations are *structural* in a world where 5% of the population consumes 25% of the resources, the rest of the world has to stay poor to make up for the footprint of a few. Add extreme climate phenomenons, making life even more miserable in those places, and the incentive is even higher. It's not about supporting it or liking it. It's unavoidable without changing the underlying system.>Weird way to spell "demoralized useful idiots starting shit disrupting police operations to accelerate crisis because of ostensive partisan propaganda until the dumbest and most insistent shit starters get killed so partisans can pounce on it"Check out the videos again. Nothing of dumb in documenting ICE arresting arbitrarily people, for instance because of their skin colour. The dumb thing is pushing someone on the ground, pepper-spraying him *and* unloading almost a full gun load on him. That can happen only because internal dissidents have been already turned into "enemies of the State".And no, I'm not going to get ecoanarchism because of those protesters, but opposing the further decline (perfection) into fascism of the State is about making things less shitty and oppressive. Even *if* it's getting instrumentalised by the neo-liberals.
>Monopolies cannot appear without a state.Large-scale capitalism itself couldn't appear without a State, like Proudhon guessed and you choose to ignore, but monopolies do get inherited from the State, if you don't abolish private property. Then, either the barrier of ingress is too high or there's literally no way to meaningfully enter and compete in a given market because the means to produce a certain good are already fully occupied. And setting aside natural monopolies and scarcity, monopolists with large capital advantages could simply create since the beginning *very* powerful PDAs that would act as their own coercive force/army in the system, essentially replacing the State and prolonging their monopoly indefinitely. Here "reputation" and the likes dissolve, the monopolist could quite literally wage war on its competitors, excluding them physically from the market, other actors would lack the scale and coordination needed to prevent that. With no available alternative, the consumer will have to buy the monopolist's goods, at whatever price the monopolist thinks the market can bear, without any other alternative.And in a similar case, the risk isn't so much that cartels would emerge between competing companies, they could rather emerge between monopolists that are not in any meaningful direct competition, joining their coercive power together, making it even more absolute/pervasive.
>>107982732 (Me)Meant for >>107977654Rest of the reply:>in animal societies might makes rightAgain, that's not true in an absolute sense, fairness, equity, and reciprocity have been found to exist within the societies of many social animals.>The exact moment you started using arguments to convince me your world view is the correct one instead of beating me up you're already using human exclusive reasoning.That really boils down only to:- shared symbolic language, as I mentioned before- the ability of human groups to retaliate in organised ways makes reasoning preferable over violenceIt doesn't imply anything about natural laws that are just waiting to get discovered somewhere out there and it doesn't mean that in absolute terms we're the only rational beings or the only ones with ethical concepts.
Kitsune sign seems to not work even with NBP using reference pictures, anyway. Or at least I kept failing. I somehow got reminded of it while trying to prompt something to avoid noimging.Pic unrelated.
For QoL I wish arena would stop switching back models whenever I change model but hit the filter and have to hit clear. Also, sometimes the submit button greys out and have to reload page. And repeatedly copy and pasting image attachment is pretty dumb, would be nice to copy previous attachments in one click.>>107981599
>>107982702>de-centralised socialismpffff, make the fucking foxes hot already, you absolute moron> a world where 5% of the population consumes 25% of the resourcesThere's lies, there's damn lies and there's statistics. You're so dense that you'll effectively fail to consider at any time that any kind of earth's exploration is but a fraction of a fraction of whatever resources we have in total. And Africa could do it too, they're just 300 years of protestant ethics behind, too deep in the mud of who earn the money instead of just building shit, and here we re with you, while living with all the benesses of being on a first world country, self-flagelatting for hating your own undeserved welfare. Your problem is yours, not the world's, and I doubt you'll live to solve it, instead of this performatic moral bullshit you're pulling>Check out the videos againOh yes, look at all of those thousands of shills someone paid by banks were able to make go to the streets to protest>Nothing of dumb in documenting ICE arresting arbitrarily peopleWeird, if anyone that ICE arrests arbitrarily keeps arrested after being checked, I wonder if that's that arbitrary. Also,claiming it's arbitrary is a diffusal tactic, it barely ever is. Even the protesters being arrested are being arrested after hours of obstruction veiled as 'observing'. >pushing someone on the ground, pepper-spraying him *and* unloading almost a full gun load on himThousands of victims of minority thugs being murdered every year have no claim to this indignation. The agent should be removed from action and his carreer terminated, and ICE should keep doing their job. >and no, I'm not going to get ecoanarchism because of those protesters, but How do I know you're marinating under like 3 different antidepressants? No one believe this without years of demoralization masked as education to mentally ill people> Enjoy the fantasy while it lastsHahaha, the projection!MAKE THE FOX SHOW HER TITS
Oh shit, I just figured it out, the commie foxgirl poster is a tranny! Well, we're done here
plural foxes?
I *think* that "we're done here" is the only part I can agree with.I actually wonder why she always gets called a foxgirl, anyway. Foxgirls should be ginger, it goes without saying.
>>107985698what is she then
>>107982732>>107982823this is what not reading a single book about economics does to you.
>>107985698This one's really pretty. Saved
>>107985698imposter tail color
>>107985118>The agent should be removed from action and his carreer terminatedAnd arrested and charged with murder, right?And arrested and charged with murder, RIGHT?
>>107985118>MAKE THE FOX SHOW HER TITShey, this is a wholesome blue board you fuckin pervert
>>107985931Wolfgirl.>>107985934This is what not looking at what capitalism is doing to the world did to you. For the record, I did away with Marxism-Leninism, exactly because of its externalisations on the ecosystem. That's where I noticed that the issue that Marxism-Leninism necessarily resolves into State Capitalism. One is necessarily linked to the other. Both should get rejected.>>107985985Lucky gen, it's Sadamoto+Sorolla, but it's not very stable. I was using Sorolla mixed with other artists before for the warren hounds, I like the bright, luminous, Mediterranean effect it gives.>>107986134Think so? The issue in NBP is often the white tip, but in that picture for instance the tail is *almost* believable while matching her hair colour.
>>107986483 (Me)>that the issue that Marxism-Leninism necessarily resolves into State Capitalism*that the issue with Marxism-Leninism is that it necessarily resolves into State CapitalismMy bad.
>>107986483>Marxism-Leninism necessarily resolves into State Capitalismthat is correct. state capitalism is the least effective way of capitalism we have to date, and the worst by far to live in. however, you fail to identify that capitalism is a naturally emergent conclusion of scarcity and that it doesn't need a state to exist. look at Europe during aristocracy. >not looking at what capitalism is doing to the world did to yougetting people out of poverty? creating innovation? making people's life better? giving me the ability to work a comfy office job instead of plowing the land in a gulag or dying during a famine? giving people an abundance of products? creating ways to get cleaner cheaper energy? and capitalism created it in spite of statism, democracy and regulation
>>107986772Massive inequalities, pollution, loss of biodiversity, climate change and the fundamental lie that infinite growth on a finite system is possible.Also, testing whether I can still post pictures...
>>107986854 (Me)I can, nice. I'm fairly sure I uploaded it in the second attempt before. Weird.
>>107986514looks like he enjoys being fertilizer for his plants
>>107986772>look at Europe during aristocracy. Those were still States, for the record. Even if they weren't the modern nation-state. States exists since around the time of Babylonia. Some form of capitalism might predate the state, but we didn't get the current behemoth until the modern nation-state and the industrial revolution.>>107986894Kek, I fear she's more likely to eat foxes too, if they're not careful.
>>107986984Of course he does. He finds it a beautiful way to die.
>>107987199I want to be one of the headcrabbers pushing the last survivor's instincts to carry on living by baiting me into one of the flame traps at the church.
>>107986819>massive inequalitiesbetween whom? rich and poor people? some are born more capable some are born less capable, deal with it. Just because inequalities exist doesn't necessarily imply they are bad.>pollution>loss of biodiversity>climate changethat's bound to happen when there isn't a clear property owner to everything. pollution is only a widespread problem because the State owns that land, and therefore doesn't care about it. you wouldn't want your house full of trash, would you? >the fundamental lie that infinite growth on a finite system is possiblecreating new things doesn't always imply draining physical resources. GDP is value, not just physical products. Writing a book, making software or a scientific discovery brings value, but nothing physical is created out of that. Also, when a resource becomes too scarce its price becomes so elevated that alternatives are created. Ultimately, the existence of humans implies that resources will be drained (unless, of course, your goal isn't VHEMT). Capitalism is the best way to manage those resources>>107987002>Those were still States, for the recordthere existed states, aristocracy wasn't perfect, however the king's position was one of relatively low power, and most law services were provided by nobles, ie natural elites voluntarily chosen by the people to solve property disputes. Aristocracy is a pretty good stepping stone to anarcho capitalism, especially if something similar existed in the modern day.>we didn't get the current behemoth until the modern nation-state and the industrial revolutionand so how are both things related? the industrial revolution was in no way tied to the state. the fact capitalists use the state for their benefit is a given in the existence of a state (if your competitors are lobbying the monopolist to violence, you probably want to do the same, or else the state will eventually come for you)>>107987194and who exactly would clean the sewers?
>>107987317holy, that image-1 pic needs a remake with logical bubble positioning
lefties tongue my anus
>>107987317>between whom? rich and poor people? some are born more capable some are born less capable, deal with it. Just because inequalities exist doesn't necessarily imply they are bad.Sure, they're "born" less capable. It's totally not like some get more opportunities because of where/from-whom they were born and some get less opportunities for the same reasons. This is basically *fascism*, whether you're willing to acknowledge it or not.>you wouldn't want your house full of trash, would you? Plenty of people sweep the dirt below the carpet, have you ever heard of the concept?>Also, when a resource becomes too scarce its price becomes so elevated that alternatives are created. Yeah, create an alternative for clean air. And commodify it, too.>ie natural elites voluntarily chosen by the people to solve property disputesExcept they weren't anything like that. Just ask to the helots or the slaves in the plantations. Elites exists only insofar they have the monopoly on violence, which is what the State perfectioned.> the industrial revolution was in no way tied to the state. No? So, how does it happen that it happened only after the State came to be and became perfectioned in the Nation-State and the modern-era imperialism?>and who exactly would clean the sewers?Who took care of the commons in pre-capitalist societies?>>107987332Oh please, it's already unholy enough as it is. Good thing, OAI models are so bad.
>>107987531is that scriabin?
Got milk?
>>107988548Yes it is :)
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