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Discussion of Free and Open Source Diffusion Models

Prev: >>107955224

https://rentry.org/ldg-lazy-getting-started-guide

>UI
ComfyUI: https://github.com/comfyanonymous/ComfyUI
SwarmUI: https://github.com/mcmonkeyprojects/SwarmUI
re/Forge/Classic/Neo: https://rentry.org/ldg-lazy-getting-started-guide#reforgeclassicneo
SD.Next: https://github.com/vladmandic/sdnext
Wan2GP: https://github.com/deepbeepmeep/Wan2GP

>Checkpoints, LoRAs, Upscalers, & Workflows
https://civitai.com
https://civitaiarchive.com/
https://openmodeldb.info
https://openart.ai/workflows

>Tuning
https://github.com/spacepxl/demystifying-sd-finetuning
https://github.com/ostris/ai-toolkit
https://github.com/Nerogar/OneTrainer
https://github.com/kohya-ss/musubi-tuner
https://github.com/tdrussell/diffusion-pipe

>Klein
https://huggingface.co/collections/black-forest-labs/flux2

>ZiT
https://huggingface.co/Tongyi-MAI/Z-Image-Turbo

>LTX-2
https://huggingface.co/Lightricks/LTX-2

>Chroma
https://huggingface.co/lodestones/Chroma1-Base
https://rentry.org/mvu52t46

>NetaYume
https://huggingface.co/duongve/NetaYume-Lumina-Image-2.0
https://nieta-art.feishu.cn/wiki/RZAawlH2ci74qckRLRPc9tOynrb

>Illustrious
https://rentry.org/comfyui_guide_1girl
https://tagexplorer.github.io/

>Misc
Local Model Meta: https://rentry.org/localmodelsmeta
Share Metadata: https://catbox.moe | https://litterbox.catbox.moe/
GPU Benchmarks: https://chimolog.co/bto-gpu-stable-diffusion-specs/
Img2Prompt: https://huggingface.co/spaces/fancyfeast/joy-caption-beta-one
Txt2Img Plugin: https://github.com/Acly/krita-ai-diffusion
Archive: https://rentry.org/sdg-link
Bakery: https://rentry.org/ldgcollage

>Neighbors
>>>/aco/csdg
>>>/b/degen
>>>/r/realistic+parody
>>>/gif/vdg
>>>/d/ddg
>>>/e/edg
>>>/h/hdg
>>>/trash/slop
>>>/vt/vtai
>>>/u/udg

>Local Text
>>>/g/lmg
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what are the best apis with flux to get lewd?
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>>107957053
elaborate?
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>>107957434
none saas cuck
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>julienbake
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>>107957451
I am vram poor i only got 12gb
i'd rather pay than await a minute per 1024x1024 image.
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what is the difference of klein 4b and klein 9b?
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>>107957434
>api
oof
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>>107957447
with these settings the samples looked much much better during training. however the results in comfy were very different. probably a scheduler thing but i couldnt figure it out. also the distill gave me completely borked results.
honestly I just dont know what to do with f2k at this point
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>>107957452
The best, high quality, without trolling or resentment implication bake.
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>>107957517
based and true
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*yawn*
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I shat my pants
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>>107957553
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>>107957379
>middle pic
What is the LoRA stacking problem?
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>>107957553
>>107957580
what the fuck?
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>Maintain Thread Quality
https://rentry.org/debo
https://rentry.org/animanon
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>>107957585
model shits itself because cumfart broke the loras for zit and just kept it broken
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>>107957614
holy fud
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>telling the truth is a fud
denying reality is a sign of mental illness
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>>107957638
proof?
>inb4 the PR where he actually FIXES the bug and retards bitch that the loras dont produce the same results as before (no shit lol)
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>>107957614
I don't really use LoRAs with ZIT, so I've never really tried it. How does it shit itself?
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>>107957658
model collapse/extremely noisy
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>>107957379
Why is AniStudio not in OP?
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End stage diffusionism.
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>>107957672
because its dogshit, and it's the worst sdcpp frontend available too to booth. Kobold.cpp is better for example and we dont include it.
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>>107957673
we haven't even really started
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>>107957697
>because its dogshit
Proof? And please spare me the fake virus scan
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>>107957672
It's not even mentioned as a UI in the stable-diffusion.cpp project, it's a literal non project.
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man this retard has nothing to do all day but shill his garbage UI project
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>pull
>Tiled VAE decode now OOMs when it worked just fine with the same length/res videos yesterday
Very cool, thanks comfy
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>he pulled
kek
gotem
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>>107957717
It really just needs exposure, hence why i'm asking why we shouldn't add it to OP
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>>107957740
maybe if he wants exposure he should just buy an ad? the other project there have more merit, why should anistudio take precedence?
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>>107957663
>what is lora strength
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>>107957717
if anons would knew about it they may contribute to it
it's a proper desktop app, why are you against adding it to OP?
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Yes, this thread should be more inclusive.
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>>107957750
so you're against having more options? may i ask why?
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>>107957724
another one falls victim to the fennec knot
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>>107957379
Is it worth going local if all I can afford is a 5060? I barely even play vidya anymore, should I go with cloud instead? or a service like tensor?
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STOP POSTING FUDS AGAINST COMFY OR I WILL POST THE JULIEN IMAGE AGAIN!
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>>107957764
I'm saying we should add Kobold, Jellybox, SDGUI, Local Diff, sd.cpp webui, LocalAI and Neural-Pixel before it, they have more users, doesn't make sense to add software no one uses just for exposure. This is not what this thread is about, it's not a free avertising plaform.
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make a rentry called poothon uis and the other Cnile uis
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>>107957740
kys
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>>107957768
Depends.
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>>107957780
jellybox is proprietary
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>>107957614
Ironically, lora loading being broken at first for Zit made Zit loras appear less overcooked when used because certain lora blocks weren't loaded. When that was fixed, loras appear more overcooked because all of the lora blocks get loaded.
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>>107957658
Retards load loras at 1 strength and then cry.
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>>107957508
maybe just wait for a trainer that doesn't need all that shit specified quite so much lol
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>>107957614
no the problem is it's distilled lol. Flux.1 had the same problem basically
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>>107957768
5060 8gb? No. 5060ti 16gb? Yes.
>cloud
Are you prepared to get vanned if you dare try genning something "problematic"?
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so it's quite clear that the schizo has a reason against adding AniStudio to OP
is he paid to do that?
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>>107957823
I sometimes load loras at 2x strength, and rejoice
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>>107957553
Keep in mind it's a tune of Base, so it needs full steps and shit. It (very expectedly) doesn't seem that deece quite yet either based on this pic from Chroma discord, needs a lot more training
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>>107957852
> needs a lot more training
as always
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>>107957844
I'll add AniStudio to the OP if I get paid for it
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>>107957508
If you know how to code, you can edit the python scripts directly and have much precise control over the parameters. But, if you need to go through that much effort, it means it's the model that's the problem, not the training program or parameters.
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>>107957890
you'd have better luck omitting cumfart until you get paid
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>>107957757
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>>107957917
I actually like this kind of inclusivity
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Yes, I'm recently widowed, teehee. I'd appreciate it so much if you donated even just a little, Anon. For Jesus Christ, who is Lord, of course.
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>>107957844
reason being there are more deserving projects (which are endorsed by the underlying library, unlike the one you want), so why should it have any preferential treatment?
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>>107957935
geg
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>>107957841
>16gb? Yes.

Isnt that one at the very limit of what can be done? specially for video, whats the max res you can do on WAN? or there's something better for NSFW video now?

>>107957841
>Are you prepared to get vanned if you dare try genning something "problematic"?

I mean if you're using runpod or something like that how the hell can they tell what you are doing?

>>107957917
I want this inclusivity with bigger bouncier inclusivities
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>>107957917
BUILT for BWC
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>>107957553
>>107957580
>>107957588
>>107957852
it's another "lodestone autistically stopped midway through one model training to play around with another model training while testing a third model training" day
nothing ever gets done with this guy
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>>107957980
I mean he updated the Z one too like yesterday
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>>107957982
that's radiance right
>trust me guys, i'll give you something to play with soon!
2 more weeks
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>>107957841
>>107957960
Adding to this what are the economics of local generation if you're not using your GPU for vidya too? like right now it makes no sense going local with LLMs because its much cheaper to just us an API (unless you are need the privacy but it might still be cheaper to use a VPS maybe?) so like back to runpod how much would it cost to generate the average 5sec WAN video at 480p there? using that res because from what I heard that's the limit of what the 5060ti 16GB can do, which is the card I can afford

Like how much stuff I have to gen for the 5060 to be cheaper than cloud?
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>why zit cant do big booba???
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>>107958006
Fuck how can I make so many typos........see this is what no sleep does to a mf
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>>107958007
bro disgusting
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Does any of the forge forks support klein 4b/9b yet?
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>>107958007
Kino and avant-garde. Make more.
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>>107957995
>>107957982
why can't this guy just take a model and simply train it, why does it always involve some frankenstein model surgery
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>>107958046
autism and gayness
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>>107958046
the Klein one doesn't have any hackery AFAIK, just a tune
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>>107957995
no the Z one is Zeta Chroma, like on ZIT
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>End stage diffusionism.
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>>107958038
Damn I recognized his face but would have never remembered his name
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>>107957672
ani said he doesn't want anistudio in the op. op for this thread is perfect, just leave it be and we will have peaceful threads
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>>107958091
>model not trained on vagoo
>hallucinates vagoo
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just tried a nsfw lora for klein 9b and it actually works surprisingly well
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>>107958156
Which one?
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>>107958153
Something feels indescribably wrong with that pic.
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>>107958156
which one?
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>>107958166
sent ;)
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>>107958166
>>107958170
https://civitaiarchive.com/models/2319552?modelVersionId=2609505
i just did a couple of undressing tests, nothing too fancy. SOMETIMES it refused to fully comply and only removed the jacket or something, but 8/10 times worked like a charm
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>>107958169
shallow hal
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>>107958171
I reflect the curse back to you
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>>107958181
no u
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joycaption is llama or vision llama?
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base never existed.
so that's, in essence, chinese culture. hm.
i get it now
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>>107958262
where did they get ZIT from if no base existed
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>>107958272
zit is base.
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>>See, this is why I never browse KYM. One link. I clicked on one fucking link and this is what I get. I tried having an open mind. Don't adhere to one website, they said. It's an anonymous website, they said. You can never know who might be on the other end of a conversation. But here I do. Anyone with even a modicum of intelligence can see at a glance that this website is filled with nothing but common rabble and deadbeat teenagers. Even on anonymous websites, you can easily pick out the people worth talking to, as long as you have the brain capacity for it. And on KYM, sadly, those people are nowhere to be seen. Now if you'll excuse me, I'll be going back to /pol/ to actually talk about things that matter. You guys keep wasting your life. But mark my words. One day, you will look back on this time in your life. And you will be sorry. Sorry you've wasted all this time with this absolute nonsense. While merely a click away, was a place filled with enlightened people, discussing our methods of actually changing the world. Through the trifecta of cyberwarfare, social media, and good old politics, we strive to make all of your lives better, day in, day out. Yes, we don't work for ourselves. We work for all of you. For the good of all mankind. Something your tiny brains will never be able to comprehend. No need to thank us, kiddos. We're just doing our jobs.
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>>107958214
its llava 1.5 iirc
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>check on civitai nsfw loras for klein 9B
>5 loras for penises
>one vaguely made lora about vaginas
wtf, no one cares? where are the different shaped vaginas loras from innie pussy to facehugger look?
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>>107958310
my personal opinion:
1. its just awfully inconvinient to properly train at the moment
2. muh license
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cozy bread
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>>107958169
her toe is kinda doing a lot of heavy lifting i guess
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>>107958310
>innie pussy
nice

>facehugger look
ew
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>>107958310
Bold of you to assume the jeetbakers can run 9B lol. Also civit deletes shit fast. And gay license.
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>>107958310
You train it.
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>>107958336
lovely
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>>107958347
thx
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Ok this shit is just broken. I'm going back to taggui.
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>>107958156
yeah most of them are pretty good so far, as far as new model loras go
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>>107957768
Been seething for years with my 3070 when 3060kings have been able of running virtually any model with their 12gbs. When ZIT came out, bought a 5060 just in time and now I'm cruising. Get the 16gb one and enjoy.
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>>107958310
there's for sure more than one female nudity lora
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>cozy bread
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>>107958331
1- I didn't know that
2- it didn't matter for the 5 penises loras

>>107958345
again, there are plenty penis loras, so it's not a reason, and only one boob lora was deleted for 9b if I look at civi archives, probably because it advertised itself as able to make nudes of people
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>>107958345
>implying freely-released lora trainers have ever given a flying fuck about licenses
nah, SAASniggers and a small handful of very large scale finetuners are the only people who give a shit
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>>107958396
not so nice
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>>107958422
no there is only one on civit "NSFW - FLux Klein (no face change)" for vagina
multiple ones focus on giant boobs or boobs in general or nipples, one for asshole, and that's it
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>>107958006
>what are the economics of local generation if you're not using your GPU for vidya too?
terrible, you need to use your gpu 24/7 for years for it to be cheaper than cloud (and you wont even be buying the best gpus like you can use with cloud), schizos will schiz but if you aren't using it for games or other software it isn't worth, and unless you are producing and distributing cp no one cares what you do on services like runpod
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>>107958435
>nah, SAASniggers and a small handful of very large scale finetuners are the only people who give a shit
And for some reason, mentally raped people like pony dev.
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>>107958445
https://civitai.com/models/2318875
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>'dict' object has no attribute 'orig_shape'
into the trash it goes
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>>107958460
wat
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>>107958454
Pony dev is a faggot but he belongs to "large scale finetuners" category. It's jut not worth the risk to spend a lot of money on finetuning a model with a fucked up licensing.
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>>107958468
I was going to try the new chroma test model https://huggingface.co/lodestones/Chroma1-Radiance/tree/main
But since it isn't the quantized version I decided to just try the regular chroma and got that error, only other person that got that seemed to have a <30 series gpu, I'm on 4090 so idk why its happening and am tired of debugging this crap
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>>107958450
One issue with cloud GPUs is that they might raise the prices or degrade the quality of service at any moment. But yeah if you aren't playing vidya, spending so much money on aislop doesn't feel like a great investment right now.
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>>107957722
Cute, very.

Concerning the spam, my filters seems effective enough.
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>>107957475
roughly 5B
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>>107958458
isn't that just to make curvy women, nude or not? It clearly doesn't looks like it's targeting lower body nudity regardless of the body or woman
at least what a vague and useless description
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>>107958513
kek
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>>107958486
I agree, but I still can't wrap my head around him changing artist names to such a useless number thing.
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>>107957475
9b has better quality and prompt adherence.
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>>107958516
It's because it's not focusing on vaginas at all, it's just a bunch of bodies that look like porn actresses/models.
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has anyone started looking into other topics in AI instead of 1girl gens and llm slop?
Because it's pretty lonely. Either AI slop producers or elitist freaks in some labs. There's nothing in between.
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It's over.
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>>107957823
is that really all it is? That hasn't ever worked well.
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>>107958524
Yeah that one's mental illness. Reminder that he also hashed some of the character names
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>>107958310
>localkek finally realizing local is dead
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>>107958310
i trained a vagina lora to test it out and it was just 90% body horror. you need a mountain of properly tagged source data to do one vagina from one angle, to teach it multiple types from all angles is a lot of work. i am not downloading that many poons.

>>107958569
no anon, no one has ever looked into anything else other than 1girl slop.
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>>107958580
I use loras on zit on 0.6 or 0.7.
1 fries it too much
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>>107958601
so literally just a skill issue. I wish that were the case for the qwen-2511 pixel shift problem.
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Repos for nuked Loras besides civiaiarchive?
Alternative?
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>>107958569
What topics are you looking into?
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yay or nay?
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>>107958569
1girl slop is endgame of AI image gen long-term unless you are doing it for some commercial purposes. You can only do so much paintings, Trumps and wojaks before it just gets boring. Porn addiction can sustain this for much longer.
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>>107958580
Using the selective lora loader might help.

https://github.com/ShootTheSound/comfyUI-Realtime-Lora
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>>107958597
>i trained a vagina lora to test it out and it was just 90% body horror. you need a mountain of properly tagged source data to do one vagina from one angle, to teach it multiple types from all angles is a lot of work. i am not downloading that many poons.
damn, I hope someone releases a good ones because body horrors are annoying
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>>107958631
hidden in hf, or catbox, and that's it
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>>107958601
>>107958617
its a bullshit method when the loras works optimally at 1.00
its a compromise

Is it comfy's fault though? Does stacking works on other UIs?
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>>107958506
ty bro, have a villainess
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>>107958739
Stacking loras never worked well even for other UIs and models. People create imaginary standards in their heads that never existed in the first place.
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>lora strength is a compromise
Holy fucking retard.
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>>107958707
i'm sure someone is already on it. tons of people already have a dataset somewhere. you could probably do it yourself.

nsfw: https://files.catbox.moe/y8z9dl.jpg
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loras are outdated dogshit, it's a miracle they work at all anymore
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What caused this?
>>>/h/8820904
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>>107958784
hdg is nothing but furry and futa posters
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>>107958764
i stack loras all the time in comfy, have for sdxl, flux, zimage, etc with no problems just keeping in mind that each lora added i try to make sure it adds up to 1. (eg. one at .6 and one at .4), then going from there
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>>107958775
looks like a mangled troon "pussy"
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>>107958777
There is no other ways to make my dolphins suck dick, sadly.
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>>107958577
catbox the result
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>>107958597
I'm guessing you don't need that much data to train on it. You just need to figure out how to caption it properly and categorize certain groups together. It's not enough to just label it as "vagina, standing" or whatever. If you write what is specifically visible, the angle, zoom, etc. then it starts to learn with enough steps. It probably helps if you know where to get really zoomed in photos of vaginas.
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>>107958775
And this is why I prefer innies to roast beef.
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>>107958775
I hope so anon
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He cute
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>>107957995
you were able to play with radiance for months now
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>>107958799
The lora's effect would be weakened if you reduce its strength. It's a compromise as the other anon said.

The only way stacking would work without reducing is if the loras are each trained on different blocks.
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>>107958784
seems fair. hdg and ldg were both good generals who, from one moment to the next, got targeted by schizos.
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>>107958676
Yay
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>>107958877
we were talking about the "z-model', question was if it was z+radiance
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>>107958764
nah it's very simple, it works on not-distilled models, it's never worked on distilled models going back to SDXL Turbo, it's not a mystery
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>>107958577
why is it over? that looks deece enough
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>>107958516
it has poontang if you look at the pics. IDK which version is best, I guess just try em all maybe
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>>107958896
he published that too but I don't even remember any promises
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>>107958888
IDK man, I feel like /hdg/ has always been like 95% angry contrarian schizos
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>>107958819
teaching new concepts takes way more effort than just refining existing ones. you would need a lot of variety that is properly captioned

>>107958882
this is 0 > 1 > 2 loras. if you have a use case where you want to apply multiple overlapping concepts then of course it's not going to work? you can't have blue cars and red vehicles and expect no problems. maybe give an example of what you're trying to do with stacked loras. i use them like a character plus a style just fine.
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>>107958896
no that's not a thing, he just made a Z model that I guess hax in the Flux.2 VAE. Before Klein came out obviously.
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>>107958764
>People create imaginary standards in their heads that never existed in the first place.
Just to be clear, I'm talking exclusively about z-image, and how it absolutely breaks when multiple lora. If it doesn't work in other UIs then its not comfy's fault.

>>107958767
at least quote me, faggot
in other models you can stack no problem so of course its a compromise, fucking retard

>>107958799
Of course there are limitations on lora stacking in models like SDXL, you're patching the model after all, but even there you can go nuts. I often use a character lora + multiple others, no problem.

>>107958777
It's a great method still. It's a miracle it works in the first place.
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>>107958932
>layering character loras in comfy just fine as well
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>>107958924
more like elitist bunch of anons driving out anyone new until it just became a shitpost general where they do irony posting most of the time between themselves
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>>107958924
in what way was it contrarian?
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>>107958816
obviously the nipples aren't great and there's nothing down there but it does most of the heavy lifting by removing the clothes and you can pass the image along to detailers.
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>can easily create a collage of 8 unique things the model already knows
so why isnt the same possible with 8 different loras loaded at once?
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>>107958986
based
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>>107958986
if you had even a base level understanding of how models work you could answer that yourself.
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>>107958986
It is, but you have to set up 8 regions actually. A shitton of noodles.
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>>107958882
>is if the loras are each trained on different blocks.
There is no issue with stacking loras to strengthen the concept of another. IE, a sex wan lora has shitty penises. You can use a lora better trained on penises to fix the sex wan lora. Both loras can be at strength 1. They do not conflict
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>>107958932
What are the concepts of your loras? I only see a character lora. The changes look very minimal.
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the lorakek cope started once local models started removing artist tags and celebrities. localoids didn't want to accept the fact that their models were worse and somehow more censored than saas, so whenever plastic chinkshit released they'd cope with "meh, just train a lora". but now that models can do more than just a single subject standing still, they're realizing that loras are outdated copium
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>>107958877
has anyone here managed to get any of the x0 variants to work? regular radiance is fine but any x0 (i tried it from like 3 different uploaders) doesnt work. also can we use zeta yet?
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>>107958963
all ways
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>>107958986
>why isnt the same possible with 8 different loras loaded at once?
because the 8 loras are competing against each other
https://arxiv.org/abs/2412.04465
https://arxiv.org/abs/2311.13600
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>>107959049
yes, that was radiance_x0 from a week ago, I didn't try the 32 or the other new checkpoints yet
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>Server responded with 0 code.
fuck you catbox and your shitty throttling



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