According to ps, htop and top, dunst is using 316M of virtual and around 10M of resident memory after boot up, and almost 800M of virtual and 24M of resident memory just after a few notifications. But using `valgrind --tool=massif dunst', the maximum usage shown is 2.5MiB.
What the fuck is going on? Aren't the values shown by ps insanely high for a notification daemon?

Why bother with native Linux development if Wine achieves almost identical performance?

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It's the year of linux.

>>107958818
>Penguins
>In Greenland

>>107958786
Some people develop only for Linux because they don't want to deal with windows APIs.

Will Debian Xfce fit into 8gb of storage space?

>>107958912
Sounds like a lot of effort just to avoid making a couple wrapper functions.

>>107958235

ok now THAT book looks interesting.

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>>107958235
Does anyone here use GIMP or is there another place I can ask this question? I want to blend pic related. You can probably see the line between the white box of the image I added onto the paper, I've been looking to find out how to blend the two shades of white better together but maybe its not possible to do since the image is on a separate layer?
Thanks.

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>>107959202
You need to use Clone.

This is how Clone works.

>select Clone
>Press Ctrl + Left click over an area you want to use to apply over the white section
>you hover over the section you want to operate on
>you press left click
>the section you previously selected will now start cloning itself over the selected area

What must I do to get my Sound Blaster Z SE to output audio on Linux? The distributions I try pick up the chip, but I can't hear anything.

>>107959224
so basically, take samples of the color that surrounds the white paper and slowly start applying that sample over the section you want .

Then maybe you can play with Smudge (the finger icon) to diffuminate a little more the target section.

You can play with size and hardness with both tools.

>>107958614
Try using 'ps_mem' and see what that one is reporting.

>>107959110
It depends on what else you're going to install. My Devuan install with no DE and 1523 packages is at 8.5 gb.

>>107958235
What's a good wget command for local copies of .blogspot sites? The content is often spread across sub-domains, some linked from other websites entirely, but I don't want to recurse infinitely into other websites (like from YouTube embeds etc.). It's mostly pictures and I want the high resolution images you get from clicking the thumbnails also.

>>107958837
It's fine. The AI hallucinated it.

>>107959270
I just need a Firefox

>>107959342
You can fit Firefox and XFCE and a fuck ton of system diagnostic tools onto a gigabyte iso (System Rescue CD) with enough compression.

I don't know what the requirements for a stock Debian install are but with enough tweaking you could make it work anyway.

>>107955165
And he never came back...

I'm on MATE, where the fuck is that setting that lets applications in the panel nest? I mean the thing where you can have three windows of Firefox open and they'll all show up as one entity.
I looked through all the settings like 4 times and I can't fucking see the setting despite knowing it's somewhere there.

Looks like the new plasma login manager finally fixes the random freezing on the login screen with my nvidia laptop. Also, used a gparted live iso this morning to fix the small boot partition size (from 2gb to 8gb. Looks like CachyOS includes both fixes on new installs now which is good.

Glad to be able to use my older smaller flash drives for something again. The gparted live iso is less than a gig.

>>107960127
Went to get make coffee in the middle of typing and partially schizo posted.

The boot partition increase was for limine-snapper-sync. Back when I had a windows partition still installed it was a pain in the ass to move and resize partitions, but it was pretty easy to resize in the front to free up 6 gigs for the primary partition and then immediately expand the partition to 8 gigs.

>>107960206
Coffee is good for you.

Why is IceWM not more well known or popular?

how do i get my mic to work? i know its not a hardware problem because i tried a standalone 3.5jack mic and a 3.5jack headset and neither left things useable

both work on a windows laptop but wont work on either my linux pc or linux laptop. and by wont work i mean its only picking up garbled static like its overexposed or some shit. how do i configure it so my mic picks up sound normally instead of earraping everyone thats forced to listen to it

How many of you are using the suckless/dwm stack?

>>107960390
Tried DWM but to be honest it SUCKS. Bspwm accomplishes the same thing and it is actually human configurable. It's as light too.

>>107960430
I'm using dwm st slock dmenu and slstatus.
Tbh after I set it up 2 months ago it's running flawlessly. I like the """"hacker"""" feeling when I have to edit a config.

>>107960488
Maybe I did not spend enough time with it. I had some trouble implementing couple of patches and sort of lost my interest.

How far behind Arch is Fedora in terms of updates?

>>107959110

mint xfce around 10GB

Thinking of switching from Linux Mint to Fedora

why does 4chan crank the difficulty on it's captchas and block image posting for linux users?

>>107960891
That's a cloudflare thing I suppose. Your IP isn't secure enough yet. Older your cookies are (afaik) easier the captchas will eventually get.

>>107960907
by *secure I mean its cloudflare evaluated risk factor lol

I'm trying to write a glorified fd to fzf script wrapper that works as a general purpose fuzzy search for my $HOME, what are some directories i might want to ignore (cause it's unlikely i'll ever want to go there manually)? ~/.cache?

>>107960891
they got me with the images but it had been fine for months and i only use linux so its probably unrelated

>>107960542
It depends on the packager of the particular thing you want mostly, i.e. stable releases of Gimp tends to be the same, at worst it gets delayed a day or two. Rawhide is bad as a daily driver though, stick to Arch or Void if you want a rolling release.
>>107960328
IceWM was HUGE back in the early 2k days, but Openbox became easier to theme.
>>107960390
Overrated meme, awesome or icewm do the same with at worst 15% more footprint without needing ugly C patches. Or this >>107960430
if you want tiling.

>>107959645
i might have solved it for you, i'm bad at explaining this so please bear with me. on your panel, you need to right-click just to the side of the 'start'/task applet, then select preferences. under 'window grouping', select Always group windows. i found the solution here so maybe it could explain things better
https://ubuntu-mate.community/t/solved-group-application-tabs-together/10055/2

So what's the name of the wildcard syntax thing on bash? Is it regex? Where can I find more about its syntax and how to use it? Some of the regex tutorials I found online don't seem to work for me.
More specifically, in this one issue. I want to match any string between square brackets, including the brackets themselves. [*] doesn't work, I don't know if I'm supposed to escape the brackets but in either case \[*\] doesn't do it either.

>>107960891
I find them easier on Linux actually. Looking at shapes is easier than counting points on stars or empty boxes for me.

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>>107959202
>>107959224
>>107959242
After you use clone as anon recommended, use lasso to select the area in green, nice and wide around the edge/smudge. Then apply a small radius gaussian blur (2 or 3px) on it for a final smoothing.

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I am trying to understand AMD's EPP preferences but I am having a hard time, which one is higher performance, "performance" or "power"?

>>107960981
on windows I only ever get 1 stage, 3 images, pick the shape that doesn't match, then no captcha required for 15ish minutes. On linux, captcha required for every post, stars, boxes, or other complex shapes only, 5 images on each stage, and three stages. Maybe the other anon is right and it's some cloudflare bullshit

>the captcha still has a random chance to fail even after you complete it correctly

>>107960980
Bash has manuals, the prose is a bit obtuse but is understandable, start up from here

https://www.gnu.org/software/bash/manual/bash.html#Quoting

https://www.gnu.org/software/bash/manual/bash.html#Shell-Expansions

https://www.gnu.org/software/bash/manual/html_node/Filename-Expansion.html

https://www.gnu.org/software/bash/manual/html_node/Variable-Index.html

It's all expanded on legacy behavior from shells that predate Bash with some extra features added for ergonomics.

I want to learn Gnu/Linux. I am reading the Arch wiki install page and you're just copying and pasting commands without understanding what it's really doing. What are some good reading materials I can learn?

>>107958235
Decided to install and try fedora coming from Manjaro with Plasma desktop. I'm kinda just interested in moving away from rolling release and giving a new system a try.

Now the question -- is GNOME worth giving a swing? I installed ubuntu on a friends laptop and found it kinda interesting to use. I've had some really frustrating BS with Wayland happening on my T480, I'm thinking because it might be using the nvidia GPU in my system...but I'm honestly not sure. So I'm almost willing to just say fuck wayland entirely, but maybe the way GNOME deals with it is better.

Do you guys have the grub menu open by default on boot? I had an issue a while back where I had to use it and I’m wondering if it might be a useful thing to have on.

>>107961186
It opens by default for 5 seconds. That was the default behaviour and I just can't be arsed to change it.

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I'm sorry.

>>107961415
silly burd

>>107961415
GNU/KEK

>>107961151
Google gemini, preferably in thinking mode. Ask it how to do the stuff you want and how it works. This kind of thing (a bunch of objective truth scattered across nerdy forums where people aren't bothering to phrase or structure it well for newbies) is the ideal use case of a research LLM

>>107961442
That or GPT5.2's higher thinking mode. Both it and Gemini 3 Pro Thinking are actually fairly useful.

What is the point of the sudo password prompt timeout? I've never been bitten by it, but I can't figure out why it exists in the first place. If some process is running for a long time and then needs elevation part way through, why would I want it to skip/fail something because I wasn't around when it needed me? It should just wait by default; the invoking program can request/implement a timeout if that makes sense for the use case.

>>107960980
Bash supports various pattern-matching methods. While the links the other anon provided are indeed comprehensive, they can be confusing if you're new to the scene. Though if you plan on using Bash or scripts even vaguely regularly, you should indeed read them, because Bash is full of bizarre edge cases and footguns.
You'll have to give more specific information about what you're trying to do. Are you writing a conditional statement in a Bash script that requires matching against a string?

>>107961009
thought you added blue lines for a school notebook aesthetic

>>107961177
>is GNOME worth giving a swing?
I like it, so I would say yes. I'm admittedly biased because I hate taskbars though. But if you're not spergy about RAM it's quite a good DE.

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This is something a bit dumb, but i never realized how configurable lf is. Because lf's custom functions are basically shell scripts with a couple of fancy features, you basically can call any external program to do anything you want. Pass the paths to any random Python/Go/C/Guile executable of your choice and is up to you.

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If I refuse to upgrade to Windows 11, then should I upgrade to Linux?
If so, when?
I just really like 10, and I hate the idea of 11. I just don’t like it.
Also I basically just watch YouTube, play games on steam and make music currently.

>>107961730
Yes, and as soon as practical. Now that Windows no longer supports 10, you're basically running a decaying system and opening yourself up to threats.

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>>107961759
Oh dear. What version do you guys recommend?
Like I said, I just basically get on YouTube, play games, use discord, and do music stuff.
I’ve heard Windows 10 has a lot of bloat and background stuff, so I suppose anything would be better without that.

>>107961777
probably Mint.

>>107961777
I would recommend Ubuntu (or one of its 'flavours' that appeal to you most). It's a gentle and stable entrypoint to GNU/Linux systems. There's ample info out there to help you do basically anything you need.

>>107961730
>make music
I bet your whatever music making software won't be available on Linux.
>>107961151
Gentoo's guide is better and you can generally use it on any distro.
>boot up a Linux system from USB
If you have more than one Linux installed on your hard drive it could be one of those, it doesn't necessarily have to be an external media such as an USB drive.
>partition the hard drive
>create a Linux filesystem on one or more partitions
>mount it/those at some place (such as /mnt/gentoo)
>put a Linux system in the said mount point
Gentoo's guide talks about the "stage3 archive" which is a Tar archive you supposedly extract to that location. But you could replace it with let's say Ubuntu or Arch or anything.
>make it all bootable
Making stuff boot depends on the hardware or the boot mode. Legacy BIOS boot involves different tricks compared to current year UEFI.
>do some further configuring like set passwords and create users and shit
>????

>>107961442
I don't have anything I specifically want it to do. I want to understand the fundamentals first before asking AI or you fags for help.
>>107961873
This doesn't really explain the file structure and how linux actually works. How can this teach me how to fix a system where an upgrade went wrong? Gentoo is more of the same, just copying and pasting commands. Is there really no manual or guide?

>>107961873
I use Ableton.

>>107961777
arch if you know what you are doing and also hate yourself, ubuntu if you don't. You will have to fix stuff that randomly breaks, but it will be the same on windows 11.

>the vibecoded january update of win11 completely broke the calculator app until a hotfix was rushed out

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>>107962191
How does gaming work on Linux? The internet is saying that Battlefield 1 and Rust doesn’t work because something about anticheat.

>>107959314
I'm pretty sure you can set the depth to 2 or 3 and exclude certain domains manually (you may still want certain external images, etc)

>>107962217
It just works if Wine and Proton can handle it but developers still know and can tell you're using Linux and not Windows and there will never be a 100% fool-proof way to handle that.

If a dev wants to be a gigantic prick (see for example: Rockstar taking away GTA Online after it worked perfectly fine for ages) then they can do that. Many developers don't care that you run their games on Linux but still some are complete and utter wankers about it and take the attitude that they don't support Linux and that it's not their problem.

Some, such as EAC do implement some anti-cheat for Linux but it's up to the developer to turn it on and also may require a patched Glibc because they are just that invasive and block other Glibcs.
https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Steam#Proton_Steam-Play
https://github.com/ValveSoftware/Proton/issues/5214

See "Are we Anti-Cheat yet?" if you want to look up specific games.
https://areweanticheatyet.com/

>>107962310
>developers still know and can tell you're using Linux
would require the game to phone home, which is disgsuting by itself

>>107962318
No, they can just try to access some files on your system or run some kernel system calls. When the Wine developers say that Wine Is Not An Emulator they really mean it.

>>107962323
and how would the game developers know what happens on my system?

>>107962341
Because they can access all of it if you're not sandboxing anything or using things like hidepid, etc, and even then they don't have to know what's going on with your system to know "This ain't Windows".

>>107962349
Seriously though, if there were any way to hide the fact that you're running on a Linux kernel instead of Windows NT people would be doing it.

Instead, people stay Windows because they can't play their favourite games, meanwhile the anti-cheat does fuck all to stop the actual cheaters.

>>107959110
Puppy linux uses less and can have various applications as SFS.

>>107962349
No, the game developers can not just access my system. Their game might, but without phoning home what it found the developers will just never know.

>>107962392
The devs can block you locally before you even connect to their servers and there is a server check. I would be very surprised if a lot of them aren't doing that.

>>107962398
Remember that some anti-cheat nowadays requires Secure boot, Virtualization, specific Windows Update patches installed!!!
They can test for all of that locally.

>>107962398
any check that runs locally relies on your system working correctly. It's doomed.

so i bought into the linux meme. had a old laptop that originally had win 8 on it, and i had managed to put win 7 and latter 10 when i absolutely had to. anyway, only linux can keep this thing going now. i installed ubuntu in here because its the one i am mostly familiar with, but it kinda sucks, so i figured i would try zoran..... imagine my surprise when i found out i couldn't use my keyboard at all in bios or boot selection.....how do you people deal with this? how do you just use this stuff without proper support? granted microshit is even worse nowdays, but still

Is fedora better for gaymen than mint?

How do I use nvme-cli to erase the whole drive? If its not encrypted I have to do a sanitize ? It says it takes a long time.. hours? days?

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>pull "linux-6.12.y" from kernel.org' Git
>you now got a rolling 6.12 kernel branch
>do a menuconfig or nconfig
>see the current version (currently going at 6.12.67)
How'd I pull the version from the shell? Idea being I could script something out of it.
>>107962002
linuxfromscratch.org explains it all a bit further, it's very much like installing Gentoo but completely manually.

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So is gaming actually getting better for Linux in terms of compatibility and frames?

>>107962495
Normal people who happen to use GNU/Linux mostly just install one of the Ubuntu or Mint variations or Fedora or something and leave it at that because they just work for everyday tasks and do everything they may need to do. And if they ever have a complication, there is ample support to fix it.
There's also the proverbial (and literal) autists and hobby tech-head tinkerers who accept and embrace the challenge of the problem-solving aspects of buggy/incomplete/unstable/minimal GNU/Linux systems and derive a sense of accomplishment and joy when they accomplish their computing goals.
The GNU/Linux user base isn't a monolith, and that's okay. It's just a matter of determining where you fit into it.

>>107962495
BIOS/boot menu is started before the operating system and thus has nothing to do with Linux (or Windows). Perhaps you’re using a Bluetooth keyboard with your laptop ? In this case the bios cannot connect to it as the drivers for it are loaded by the OS, which is after boot selection obviously. If your laptop keyboard doesn’t respond, then I don’t have a clue.

>>107962435
If your Linux kernel functions like an NT kernel it's not functioning correctly.

>>107962588
well, i kinda get that. i just having one problem a little too close to bed time, and thats enough to have me reconsider the entire thing. i know its over, and that i cant really go back to the days of windows 7, and i understand that i will have to put some moderate effort into getting my shit to work if i want to keep using it. i am also aware that there is plenty of support. but no man, really, i just came here to vent for a bit. having even the bios turn into a hassle is a bit too much or me.

>>107962628
That's understandable and I can relate to how you feel right now, there can be a learning curve with this sort of thing, it's just a matter of how steep you're willing that curve to be. Take a breath and sleep on it, anon, it'll be okay. Things will works themselves out. If I may say, look into one of the Ubuntu or Mint variations, they'll give you the least stress.

>>107962568
compared to what? the compatibility is miles ahead of where it was 10 years ago, and if Valve and other OEMs can continue pushing the industry forward it will only get better over time, but it's not perfect yet. The OOBE for linux still isn't great for non-technical users, and the non-gaming software scene needs improvement.

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>>107962655
Compared to windows. Honestly, as much as anticheat games not working bothers me; I’m so close to switching to Linux. I really don’t like the idea of keeping Windows 10, and I just can’t with 11. Found out earlier apparently they’re implementing AI on 11, and I hate that. Not doing it. I spent the past decade learning Windows 10, and getting used to it; but at the same times I really want to play my games and make music…

>>107961483
>more specific information about what you're trying to do
My chinese cartoons come named:
>[translator] animu [codecs, resolution and whatnot]
I just wanted to rename all the files all at once with rename, from util-linux.
The only bash script I wrote was rendered useless by an update to the package I was trying to extend couple months after I wrote it. I'll get back into it but I should learn to do this stuff manually in the terminal first before trying to automate it.

>>107962495
>zoran
the fuck even is that? Don't use obscure distros if you don't know what you're doing
>couldn't use my keyboard at all in bios or boot selection
and that has what to do with linux?

>>107962685
>but at the same times I really want to play my games
I have more games that run on linux just fine than time to play them all. Obviously, it sucks if the game you want play is one of the few that doesn't run on linux.

>>107962685
I'm still in the dual boot phase myself. I have both games and other software that I still don't have working yet, either due to anticheat or other issues.

>Found out earlier apparently they’re implementing AI on 11
If you've only just now found out about this, then you have no idea just how bad win11 really is.

>music production on linux
I've seen some projects to get better audio tooling in linux, but the situation is largely not great yet. I would absolutely love if Image-Line were to have a linux release instead of relying on wine and having certain things not really work correctly...

>>107962724
>If you've only just now found out about this, then you have no idea just how bad win11 really is
How bad are things really?
>>107962724
>>107962709
In terms of gaming, but also general use (YouTube, possible music production, and like discord) would you guys argue that mint would be better, or Pop?
I apologize for asking so many questions. I tend to overthink, and whatever I get I’m probably going to run with it.

WHY DOES SCROLLBAR MARKING FOR (YOU)S IN 4CHAN-X NOT WORK IN NIGGER LINUX

I'VE SCOURED THE INTERNET FOR 2 FUCKING HOURS WITH NO ANSWERS

>>107960390
I like slock

>>107961186
iirc you can hold shift to have it show up even without a timeout

>>107962217
In short: if it's on Steam, it'll run just fine, especially if marked Linux-compatible.

Kernel-level anti-cheats are the exception but they're a MAJOR security violation anyways.

>>107962775
most flavors of Ubuntu will be about the same and it's easy to customize

>how bad is win11
Every update breaks something or shoehorns AI into some new thing. The OS can't handle large zip files. MSPaint has built in AI tools, whether you want it or not. If you try and disable recall, it breaks core features in windows explorer. Microsoft has worked extremely hard to close off any method of having local accounts. The amount of system resources used by the OS is just goofy. The CEO of Microslop has publicly admitted that every major feature of windows 11 is broken but also whined that "the fact that people aren't impressed by AI is mindblowing" and begged people to stop calling AI-generated slop what it is. The copilot function in Excel is a financial crisis waiting to happen.

After a lot of thinking about it, I came to the realization that the target audience of windows 11 is not microslop's customers. It's not supposed to be a good product that generates sales. It's supposed to generate hype and raise the stock price, even if it's shit.

>>107962838
>The OS can't handle large zip files
Minor complaint compared to what is going on but my distro couldn't handle large zip files either until I switched from the default program to peazip.

>>107956937
>Not on BTRFS. It doesn't dupe.
Btrfs may not dupe but you still get Flatpak bloat even on Btrfs because all the different runtimes are still different builds.
>>107956907
>In any case it's not like you're forced to use Flatpak even on Bazzite. Use rpm-ostree if you want to.
I am not restarting my computer every time I install an rpm package.

>>107962838
microsoft never admitted every core feature is broken, that was a fake headline that got spread around
local accounts can be made easily after installation, but microsoft has made it much harder if not impossible to install windows 11 without signing in to a microsoft account
dunno about that other stuff, recall thing looks like an old bug

Why is r/Linux-gaming so annoying or is this something in common with Linux users, people who value their time are excited for Steam OS for an out of box Linux experience and then boom out of nowhere you have the same repeated points how you can just set up bazzite/cachyOS/Proton/wine or whatever flavor of troon astroturfed single man maintained OS that is being sugggested.

>>107962775
>what distro
Most of them have line versions you can try before installing. Get a thumbdrive with ventoy and cram it full of as many as you'd like and try it out for a while
Keep in mind that linux has desktop environments too, so to the average user both mint with xfce and pop with xfce are exactly the same. Really, if you're comparing Debian/Ubuntu derivatives, the DE or WM are more important to you liking it or not than the distro itself.
Personally I'd recommend checking out some tiling window managers too. They're weird a first but awesome for notebooks once you get used to it.
You can uninstall the entirety of the DE/WM after installing the distro if you want, and then install another one and you can also have multiple installed at once and just pick the one you want during login. What I did was use archinstall and install every single DE/WM they had the option for and try every one of them. Took a little while but at the end I'd have my tastes figured out.
>>107962838
I wonder what their plan is once it inevitably crashes. Maybe Nutella genuinely believes AI will save them, it just needs two more weeks for the prompt to prompt itself into victory. He's a jeet after, all. Or maybe he's planning on jumping ship since he's almost 60, he has plenty of money to live a comfy rest of his life and fuck M$.
Germany migrated their internal systems to linux, that's just how bad microjeet is now.

>>107962807
works on my machine™

does anyone us Local by Flywheel on linux? I';m trying to run it on a fresh Mint install, the deb package installs and the program runs, but when i want to add a new site it thinks about it for a bit then throws a "mysqladmin connect to server at localhost failed". tried a bunch of different options but nothing seems to work.

>>107962994
>Germany migrated their internal systems to linux, that's just how bad microjeet is now.
Not really

>>107962922
Retards think that SteamOS is magic when really it's using the same drivers as everyone else.

>001 002 003 split archive for movie
>Ark, file roller, and lxqt file archiver can't open it. Says it's unsupported
>Terminal 7z x 001 extracts the file np
Why can't I open it with any of the gui applications?
Filenames are movietitle.mkv.001,002,003. File browser has 001 file type as matroska stream. Can watch first ~20 minutes on mpv. 002 and 003 file type unknown and can't play in mpv. I deleted mkv portion from the filename but it didn't make any difference when trying to open in any gui archive application

>>107963062
Try Peazip. That's the closest thing Linux has to a 7Zip GUI like on Windows.

>>107963062
Just posted about it funnily enough >>107962881
Its about file size but also applies to archives with multiple parts.

>>107962922
Because every distro already has an out of the box Linux experience. SteamOS has the same drivers, GUI, settings, and everything else as every other distro that already exists. Literally the only thing SteamOS brings to the table is brand recognition.

>>107963130
They do also bring a lot of engineers and talent to Linux though but that benefits everyone and not just SteamOS because they don't close source anything, everything is done upstream for everyone to enjoy because that's just how based Valve is.

>>107962398
Well, that's essentially how DRM works now. You have to verify with a remote server.

>>107963142
Gaymin will suffer once the fat bastard dies.

>>107963159
I'd like to think that Gabe has put the right culture in place so that never happens but who am I kidding, they're a corporation like any other.
We can enjoy a good thing while we have it though.

>>107963157
Of course there's a server side check I won't deny that. I'm saying they'd probably block you before you even connect to the servers though. They already know you're using something that doesn't look like Windows, the DRM can detect that rather easily.

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what's the best way to "revitalize" an old hdd?
i have an old WDC 1tb drive that started corrupting data ssome time ago. i disconnected it and got an ssd, since windows wouldn't even boot if it was connected, but now i installed linux, connected the drive and it boots and all. i can see the drive in the Disks utility.
i mounted the original D: partition and it took like 10 minutes but it finally showed the contents of the drive. clicking on a folder makes it think for another 2-3 minutes, but it seems to be "working".
Smart data shows "self test failed", with a read error rate of 190k, current pendin sector count 1057, uncorrectable sector count 664. i can't access the first partition (originally C:) and when i try to "repair filesystem" it throws a bunch of error about writing locks and the resource is temporarily unavailable.

the drive is pretty toast but i'd still like to get some data off it in a timely manner and maybe try to make it work, however slowly. what's the best course of action here?

>>107963062
>Can watch first ~20 minutes on mpv.
I don't think you have an archive there, just a file that was split. You can't watch the other ones due to missing metadata.
>Why can't I open it with any of the gui applications?
saa

>>107963333
To get the data off safely: GNU ddrescue
To find and mark bad sectors: badblocks (this will take a really long time)

>>107962565
uname

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Explain to me how this is acceptable. Pretty much every distro connects to random volunteer time servers whenever it has got network access. So your uptime patterns can be potentially tracked as it usually sticks with one server on a stable connection. Furthermore there is no NTS by default (most distros use systemd-timesyncd) unless you're using the latest Ubuntu (they use their own pool now on their infrastructure with NTS I think). So absolutely no way to authenticate the data using a certificate.

Even distros like Debian do this. You can specifically say no to NTP in the installer or change to your own trusted server...BUT it will still use the compiled in defaults on the installed system.

>>107963062
Split video files work fine for me in VLC.

>>107963382
thanks.
i just fired up gparted and tried checking C: (/dev/sda2), which seems to be the troublesome part of the drive, and this is what i got:

check file system on /dev/sda2 for errors and (if possible) fix them 00:00:34 ( ERROR )
ntfsresize -i -f -v '/dev/sda2' 00:00:34 ( ERROR )
ntfsresize v2022.10.3 (libntfs-3g)
ntfs_attr_pread_i: ntfs_pread failed: Input/output error
Failed to read vcn 0x0 from inode 5: Input/output error
Failed to open $Secure: No such file or directory
ERROR(2): Opening '/dev/sda2' as NTFS failed: No such file or directory

using ntfsfix ends in the same errors being shown

i'll try ddrescue but the situation looks pretty grim, i feel like this is much worse than just some bad blocks, like a head issue or something maybe

>>107963496
just take out systemd
>So your uptime patterns can be potentially tracked
oh no how awful, someone somewhere will know I use a computer

>>107963496
Systemd respects Option 42. If you care about this tracking vector then you'd naturally configure your DHCP server to hand out an NTP server of your choosing (possibly one even hosted locally on your network)

>nvidia dkms compilation time
Humiliation ritual

Yeah so. You guys got me onto stinkpads. By manipulation. And then got me trying linux again and it's maddening. Just surfing normal webpages and clicking links is cool but try anything proper and it becomes an exercise in patience and repetition.

>>107964304
>anything proper
Such as?

>>107964304
Did you get a stable distro that's tailored to usability or the latest gimmick Arch fork?

>>107963519
Why are you trying to access a NTFS drive on Linux? If there is even a tiny bit wrong with it, it's completely broken in Linux. NTFS fix does nothing

If you need to access a NTFS filesystem that's not perfect you need windows chkdisk. Since I have a NTFS drive I literally need to keep winpe around to fix it if it ever goes bad.

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NFS or SMB?

Is there any way to dupplicate/mirror the taskbar for all monitors on Linux Mint? I've searched but haven't found any solution to this. I want to be able to use any of the two monitor fullscreen without having to move the taskbar or create a new one from scratch

>>107964280
Extra info? Wasn't the whole thing closed source binary blob? And are you using all your CPU cores?
>>107964487
NFS case you don't need security.

>>107964487
>NFS
Don't, it's a burning trash heap, either completely insecure or requires kerberos with all the rpc clusterfuck that involves. Samba is more popular on Linux not even taking the interoperability with Windows into account, and that's despite being annoying to configure.

Besides SMB you could also just use sshfs if you already have ssh with key auth in place. It's a fuse server that connects to and runs sftp on the target for listing and transfers, and can do limited user ID mapping so if you have the same UID on server and client you don't have to fuck around with permissions while having the share in /etc/fstab and mounted by root.

You can also just use sftp://user@host/path directly on some file managers.

Is there much difference between Ubuntu and Debian for a daily driver? I'm testing both in a VM and upon first inspection Debian seems slightly more difficult, where-as Ubuntu had endless issues with the installation. It kept failing during install, then crashing when opening the terminal, I've redownloaded and verified the ios twice but still the same exact issue.

>>107964813
>NFS case you don't need security.
NFS has security though
>>107964814
NFS is faster linux to linux.
SMB is a joke and samba is clusterfuck to set up.
Fuse userspace is shit implantation not to mention the overhead from encrypting the traffic.

>>107964868
>NFS is faster linux to linux.
Citation needed.

>SMB is a joke and samba is clusterfuck to set up.
And yet not even close to the clusterfuck needed to secure NFS.

>overhead from encrypting the traffic
Are you on a 486 or something?

The biggest benefit of sshfs/sftp is that you literally don't need anything more than ssh and sftp installed.

>Wanting to do LPIC-1
>Look inside
>It's all just asking to recite 2005 commands from memory
How did this bullshit become industry standard?

>>107958614
A lot of it is probably shared code in sos. It looks like drags in some huge dependencies.

>>107958786
Win32 is only nice for games and GUI apps. Most Linux software is neither of those.

Also the windows ecosystem is built around flinging exes at eachother while the GNU/Linux ecosystem is built around this idea that what you develop gets incorporated into the composite system. They're two totally different philosophies for software development and distribution and if you prefer one you should use the tools built for it.

>>107959000
Based. I love FVWM. That's probably the best non-autism window manager.

CWM is of course the best window manager overall.

>>107964487
Just use git and sftp.

Network filesystems are for retards.

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I'm a beginner and I'm thinking of upgrading my Debian 12 to 13. I found an article saying that basically all you have to do is replace a few references on a file (see picrel). Is this really how you're supposed to do it? Seems overly simple.

>>107958786
Because the software I use for work doesn't quite work perfect with wine and is way too specialized to have a FOSS alternative.

>>107964966
Sharing drive space is for retards?
>>107964997
Yes.
>--without-new-pkgs
Never heard of that one though.
>full-upgrade
Thought it was dist-upgrade but my info could be outdated.

>>107958912
You don't even deal with the OS APIs in most software and game development. You just deal with the API of your framework or game engine. The only time you deal with OS APIs is if you're doing something very custom or low level.

>>107960328
IceWM hasn't been popular in the past 15-20 years. Too much competition. Also people who use simple WMs prefer tiling ones. Stuff like Hyprland, Sway and i3 are usually the first choice.

>>107960542
Going by the release schedule, 3 months on average. Some packages in Fedora are actually rolling release. Especially in Fedora forks like the recent gaming distros which always get the latest Mesa for example.

>>107962508
Technically yes, aside from Fedora's choice to not include proprietary drivers and codecs which is why Nobara and Bazzite exist. If you're not affected by this then the answer is Fedora is better as it gets updates faster.

>>107964959
>FVWM
>CWM
never even heard of those.
I'll look them up and they better be good

what's inherently bad about hyprland? I don't really follow developer drama though
can you get flashy looks with other WMs?

>>107962922
SteamOS is effectively a locked down version of Bazzite that's more behind in updates and AMD-only. I understand not wanting to install an OS yourself, but if installing a distro is not a barrier for you then using Bazzite instead of SteamOS makes much more sense. Same with CachyOS. They're both a "better version of SteamOS".
Not to mention some people will just get a Steam Machine and realize they can't run anything that's not a Flatpak or Appimage then go back to Windows while crying "Linux has no apps".

>>107963159
Probably not. The company culture is customer-first. There's some guy who breached the refund policy due to how much he played a game, he told the Valve customer support that he was disappointed by the game and expected it to be different, they denied the refund but then he replied with "pretty please valve" and they gave him a refund the next day.

>>107965165
Supposedly its code quality is a bit crap and its dynamic modules loading code is suspect. Besides that its fine.

>>107965165
some people hate it with a passion

>>107965165
People hate it because it's not i3 or dwm. Also a lot of terminally online trannies hate it because there was a trans joke made in the official discord where a moderator changed someone's pronouns from "they/them" to "who/cares".

>>107959244
this one? https://github.com/pixelb/ps_mem
>>107964938
>shared
>huge dependencies
I think you're right, the shared and resident memory values are very close.

>>107965184
>The company culture is customer-first
How much of that culture is due to gayben? Without him, they'll have to elect some other CEO and he might be more interested in making line go up.

Is there a scrolling WM that's similar to Niri but for X11?

>>107960390
I use dwm and slock, but xterm instead of st.

>>107965263
The "line" is already going up. As long as they listen to customer satisfaction they'll be fine. Their competition is still a decade behind.
Also, they don't need a "line" to go up. It's a private company so they're not worried about shareholders, investors, stock values, etc. Their "shareholders" are the customers and developers.

>>107965283
Not really. I think there was a project called ScrollWM but it was abandoned over a decade ago and it wasn't automatically tiling.

>>107965369
>Not really.
Fucking reee. I don't want to migrate my entire desktop.

>>107965369
Gayben and anyone with half a brain can see it that way, but greed knows no bounds. I hope he has a good replacement for when he dies but I'll only believe it when I see it.

>>107965165
it's very unfinished

>>107965443
what is it missing?

>>107959110
Barely as long as you dont have a swapfile

>>107964487
sshfs

>>107964814
Did samba ever fix the executable issue where either all your files get marked executable or none of them get marked executable?

>>107965188
The only people who say that are either the people who arent developers or the people who have an agenda against the developer

>>107964724
sorry for the dumb question but I really would like an answer. I haven't found anything conclusive online despite it being a relatively simple issue

>>107965550
>needless overhead

>>107964868
>NFS is faster linux to linux
Not appreciably if at all unless you're running a clustered NAS.
>samba is clusterfuck to set up
Sounds like distro / pebcak issue. Shouldn't take more than 10 minutes.
>Fuse userspace is shit implantation
Why would you use that instead of the kernel implementation?
>overhead from encrypting the traffic
Negligible at Ethernet speeds for any CPU made after about 2009.

>>107965612
Proof?

The only reason i don't use samba is because it doesn't handle unix file permissions properly unless that's changed.

>>107965569
This. Same with people who are anti-Flatpak shills.

>>107965695
Weird because the group of people who make flatpak are the same group of people who have a political grudge and agenda against the hyprland dev

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is there such a thing as a linux DE with a unified theme? i'm on gnome right now, and depending on if its gtk or something else, windows will look different.

Quake 2 RTX is giving me an SSL error, would be a bad idea to install openssl 1.1? Is it safe?

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>>107965817
Forgot image

I just installed Fedora and I gotta say, it's pretty good.

>>107965823
Have you tried installing the quake2rtx-bin package from the aur to see if you get the same issue?

>>107965807
Plasma tries to with their breeze theme. Would've thought gnome would've also tried to since there's an adwaita-qt theme

I just installed chimera linux and it doesn't come with make command and it's not in main or user repo. Does this really not come with make command or am I being a retard?

>>107965817
Yes. No. Use a flatpak or AUR.

>>107964842
The differences are small: Ubuntu has Snap, more structured and consisted update mechanisms, more programmes pre-installed, and more immediate driver support. Beyond that, the only differences are cosmetic. Ubuntu is basically just Debian pre-packaged and accommodated for normies.

Is WSL similar to wine or is it more similar to something like running a windows vm and using the rdp hackery winapps uses?

>>107966226
it's similar to distrobox

Im curious. Has anyone here discussed forking linux? I know its absolutely huge work, maybe even autistic or retardation levels for a single person or even a dozen guys to pull of. All this shit happening with Rust, RedHat, Gnome, systemd, pride shit etc. Sure its easy to remove, not use, custom compile a kernel. What are your thoughts?

Why is the

plymouth-set-default-theme

command not found on Debian, even after installing plymouth?

>>107966434
I found out the problem: Debian installs this shit in /sbin instead of /bin

>>107966226
WSL1 is like wine, WSL2 is like winapps. I think they gave up on 1 though because making a compatibility layer is annoying. A VM solves everything except performance, and they just want webshitters to be able to use vscode to make stuff to deploy on linux, so speed doesn't matter

>>107962693
Makes sense. You should read that Bash documentation then, it is pretty flexible for that type of pattern work once you understand the different patterns it supports and the syntax edge cases. Since it's the "glue" that connects all the other *nix utils, it's definitely the most important one to learn.

>>107966434
It should work if you run it as sudo

>>107962693
If you got messed up by "an update" to rename, I wonder if you got confused between the two renames. On arch it's the util-linux rename which only replaces one expression with another, pretty limited. Other linux systems have the perl rename which lets you use regexes. You can get that on arch distros by installing perl-rename.
The latter requires you learn perl-style regexes but can handle any task quite easily once you do.

>>107966339
No because those are political issues not technical ones. If you want a kernel that addresses your political issues, OpenBSD already exists.

Anyone had any luck with making HDR videos look good in KDE Plasma? Enabling HDR in mpv by passing the right params does work (playing an HDR calibration video with HDR enabled reveals certain details that aren't be visible with HDR disabled) but the image is brighter and prettier with HDR disabled. For now, windows seems to handle HDR much better.
Kubuntu 20.10/ Plasma 6.4.5

>>107966895
No, the update in question is for hyprpaper, which I use for wallpapers. I made a script to change wallpapers on a timer, picking randomly from the files in a specific directory. Then soon after they updated that and now the syntax is different is most importantly they added that feature so I just need to point to the dir on the config file.
Has nothing to do with the two renames.
>perl is better, if a little harder to get into
Oh, I was trying to use the util-linux one since I already have it installed but I might look deeper into that perl one.

>>107965817
I'm on Fedora 43 and decided to try out Q2 RTX. Got the same error obviously.
>https://archlinux.org/packages/core/x86_64/openssl-1.1/
>https://london.mirror.pkgbuild.com/core/os/x86_64/openssl-1.1-1.1.1.w-2-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst
>tar --use-compress-program=unzstd -xvf openssl-1.1-1.1.1.w-2-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst
>then copy libcrypto.so.1.1 and libssl.so.1.1 into the root of q2rtx
No need to install anything system wide in this case.

>>107965645
>Shouldn't take more than 10 minutes.
SMB shouldn't be distro related.
It's shit implantation for windows protocol.
>Negligible at Ethernet speeds for any CPU made after about 2009.
Are you an idiot?

>>107966959
Actual useful response, thanks anon

>>107967067
>Are you an idiot?
Idk man you're the only one having problems with this.

So I'm having a really weird issue with nomacs. It's kinda sorting images by filenames but not all of them. If I change the sort option from names to size and then back to names again it will fix it, but closing the window and opening it again will make it revert back to original messed up sorting.

Any idea what's happening and how to fix it?

>>107965560
file_mode=0666,dir_mode=0777

>>107965823
I don't use cachy but looking at that output and considering there is a specific package for 1.1, the same version q2rtx wants .... maybe install it?

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>>107962724
What is dual booting?

>>107967344
having multiple operating systems installed and using a boot loader, such as GRUB, to select which one to boot

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I've been using Fedora KDE for about 5 months now and I love it: it's easy to use, it's bug-free, it's extremely polished and it just werks. But if I were starting over, I'd tell myself to just go with Debian KDE so I wouldn't have to get daily updates. I know you can just skip updates on Fedora, and I've grown a habit of doing so, but delaying a superfluous update for

irrelevant library

also means delaying a potentially meaningful update for a different package; meanwhile on Debian, you know for a fact that every update is meaningful. At the same time, Fedora's freshness saves me from Flatpak bloat in a way Debian likely couldn't. Ultimately I have no desire to distrohop because Fedora hasn't actually caused any issues for me. The funny thing is that I chose Fedora for the DaVinci Resolve compatibility just to end up running Vegas in Wine anyway. So, there is literally nothing special about Fedora for me at this point, but maybe that's a good thing because my using it proves Linux just werks now.

I reckon when I get a new SSD 10 years down the track, I'll switch to Debian KDE. In the meantime, Fedora rocks.

>>107968014
I have been using Debian for 5 years, I chose Debian over other distros because my internet was slow and I didn't want to wait hours downloading each update (on other distros you sometimes have to download 1 GB worth of packages with each update and that threw me off). Debian updates very rarely, and when it does it's usually just one or two security updates for some library.
I agree flatpaks suck at times, but most of the time I don't really care, also I prefer MATE over KDE.

would installing a lightweight Linux distro to my shitbox HP Chromebook x360 make it any snappier? I've used cachyos on my main gaming desktop but I like to use my ChromeOS Chromebook for browser stuff in my living room but everything about the experience feels like it could be a bit less sluggish, especially for an OS optimized to just be a chrome bootloader. The process seems to be a bit convoluted but I wouldn't mind if it meant I could make it faster, but it might just be a hardware problem so I'm not sure.

>>107968285
Lightweight distros are for computers from 15-20 years ago; that Chromebook will run anything you throw at it.

>>107968298
would I see a worthwhile performance boost? I think my biggest problem is having 4 gigs of ram so things like Google docs don't run very well on it at the moment which feels kinda counterintuitive.

Anyone have an issue with Bottles installing and/or launching anything extremely slowly?

I'm trying to get Fusion 360 to run through it but as it has browser based login it gets tricky. Doing a new bottle takes sometimes hours to install the program if I need a fresh start.

>>107966959
Why does this work? I thought you had to manually specify library overrides with LD_PRELOAD

>>107968578
Bottles is buggy, python based nagware (they are begging for donations).
In any case you should only have one prefix. This saves time and disk space.
It should not take hours but few minutes if you need to install lots of dependencies like vcrun2022 and dotnet stuff etc. Besides the installers are getting cached after the initial download.
I'm sure you can install iexplore or something via either Bottles or via winetricks.

>>107958235
https://buddiesofbudgie.org/blog/news/1
>One year of no updates
>Suddenly sporadic updates
This shit is dead, isn't it?

i installed icedove via guix and whenever i click on settings it wants to connect to mail.google?
why? what pref to disable that shit.

>Lubuntu 18.04 LTS used about 120MB worth of RAM on startup
>Nowadays Lubuntu 25.10 uses 650MB on startup
How can they even call this a "light ubuntu" anymore?

>>107968865
What’s Debian LXQt run at startup? Might just be a DE issue

>>107958235
Im working on a DietPi project:

What WMs do you guys like when running a low specs system? Currently trying to build a pi zero 2 w into a usable Linux machine that's as light yet usable as possible. With 512 megabytes of RAM it's pretty tight getting features that dont tank RAM usage.
Currently using icewm. Tried jwm but didnt like it that much.
The purpose of this device is to be for consuming offline book/comic/music, with possible game emu if I can get enough headroom.
And any other tips on what I can disable to make further cut down on RAM usage?
I tried Alpine but I'm more familiar with Debian-based so I'm sticking with DietPi.

>>107968210
>>107968014
What brand of Debian, just "stable" I assume? I'm on F43 too and been thinking that, if I need to change the next one would be Debian. Don't want to distrohop without a good reason though.

>>107968889
dunno im not running lubuntu right now, i just know it got so shit and buggy from lubuntu 22 onwards and that they "No longer target old hardware"

>>107968460
Almost certainly. How much of a boost Im not sure. If you're comfortable with Arch-based like CachyOS then go with that.
>>107968985
canonical be canonical-ing i guess

>>107968969
>What brand of Debian, just "stable" I assume?
Yes, although I have tried Debian unstable for a while, I didn't notice a difference apart from more updates and my printer stopped working so I went back to stable.
>Don't want to distrohop without a good reason though.
Then don't distrohop, I have been using debian for so long that I can't switch to any other non-debian based distro because I am so familiar with all the debian and apt quirks that I don't want to learn another distro's quirks or way of doing things, I know debian well enough to build my own .deb packages and make my own local .deb repository, even if there was a better distro than debian then I would have to relearn a lot of new things and I don't want that, so my point is that the best distro for you is the one you know most.

>>107968841
nvm i figured out what it was.
>general settings > files & attachments > mailto > application details > remove gmail

>>107962892
>I am not restarting my computer every time I install an rpm package.
who said you needed to?

>>107969037
I was reading about Debian's history and the distro name is somewhat creepy, if you know the origin. Was Murdock a stalker?

>>107969113
>combination of his gf's name (deb) and his name (ian)
i think it's nice

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>fedora xfce has janky customization
>Endeavour xfce (and endeavour in general) has systemd issues with windows
>Solus xfce is unusable with latest OS and have to rely on year old built to use properly
>Manjaro
>Xfce in general has glitchy interface due to nvidia bug
>Fedora default locks on the setup screen with new iso months away
>Opensuse needs nomodeset in order to use the installer and fucks up the boot menu
>Ubuntu
Why is it so damn unbearable to install xfce and Linux distros in 2026?

>>107969138
sort of a tangent but they divorced 14 years later in 2008, so that's unfortunate.

any recs for a backup browser? been in the firefox club for so long idk what else there is. brave was chinkshit spyware last time i saw

>>107969157
I haven't had any issues with f43 Xfce4 outside of that bugged Nvidia 580.119 driver, I have reverted back to 580.95.
This issue should not affect any of their installers because fedora doesn't ship with the proprietary driver anyway.

>>107969194
Brave is still the best Chromium browser currently if you care about not being a product like a Chrome user, you just need to do a settings sweep to it before you actually use it to disable shit like its Web3 nonsense. Privacy advocate sites have lists on what to enable/disable.

>>107969194
Explore some firefox forks while we wait and hope for ladybird to save us.

>>107969219
actually their logo is so unfathomably gay im not using it out of spite
>>107969225
oh true, ill just grab librewolf or something. ty

>>107969225
I'm super interested to see how Ladybird turns out, what with it being a completely separate from Blink or Gecko.
IIRC the first alpha is releasing this year at some point?

>>107969194
I use LibreWolf after some configuring and stuff. What do you want from a browser?

>>107959110
i have a cheap 8gb usb drive just setup with an arch install for fun, and it's got xfce, firefox, gimp, gparted, neverball, wine, office 2007, and some other things and it's only at 2.5GB usage (with btrfs compression and deduplication). shouldn't be much different with debian

>>107969194
I just use Chromium for a backup since it's very neutral

>>107969239
I'm using floorp. It has an awful retarded name but the devs don't seem involved in any drama.
>>107969248
They're aiming for early summer, I think.

>>107968865
Because, strictly speaking, it is a 'light Ubuntu'.

>>107969263
never tried floorp and I was repelled by the name until reading about it recently. S*** is named after the soda Jimmy Neutron's friends drink. Putting it on my list anyway.
Anything you can say about it that it does better than other browsers?

>>107969327
Floorp is basically Firefox, Japan with some UI changes.

>>107969317
when did light go from 100 MB of RAM to 650 MB of RAM ? and how did that happen within 5 years while it remained around 100 MB almost every iteration before then?

>>107969327
Oh, so that's where the name comes from...
And I can't really say, no. I've been using firefox for so very long and I don't really know what's out there. After the last big meltdown about mozilla, I started looking around for alternatives. I've tried palemoon, icecat, librewolf and floorp. The first two aren't really viable, not enough support or updates, so ad blocking doesn't work reliably.
Libre and floorp are just firefox but with different default settings. Libre went retardo with their politics and I don't really trust them with my web browsing, if they don't have the maturity to keep that to themselves then I can't expect them to have any maturity to not use their software to further their agenda somehow or do some other nefarious stuff. Floorp devs are even lazier in that they seem to change even less of mozilla's stuff, but they at least don't seem politically charged.
Really the only real prim and proper fork is icecat because they seem to be the only ones actually digging into the code and removing all the telemetry and they have a cute icon. Shame they're so behind on updates a lot of the extensions don't work right and you just can't use the internet without an adblock nowadays.

>>107969453
Anon there is currently only two browser engines out there, Firefox's and Chromium's.
If you want a secondary browser you're gonna have to use a Chromium based one, or wait for Ladybird to release its alpha this year and give that a shot. Also when it comes to adblocking, Firefox based browsers are the only ones that still run UBO properly, with Brave being one of the only Chromium browsers that actually still block content properly and still support MV2.

>>107969468
I'm the anon content using floorp and waiting for ladybird, you're confusing the two of us.
Last I used chromium was over a decade ago. Brave didn't exist back then and I moved back to firefox because of ad blocking and RAM usage. Not interested in trying it again.

>>107969359
You have a point (and I agree), I was just saying that relative to normal Ubuntu, it is 'light'.

Thoughts on EndeavourOS?

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Forget Ladybird, Servo is the actual hype alternative browser.

>>107969534
A great way to setup a vanilla Arch install in less then 30 minutes.

>>107969453
ad blocking works reliably for me using pale moon, use the "for firefox legacy" branch of uBo. it's hard to suggest it as a general recommendation for other reasons, but i like it

>>107969550
Actually up and running unlike Ladybird

>>107969550
>Browser engine built as a co-op between Mozilla and Samsung which is basically "what if a browser engine was built entirely in Rust?"
Interesting. It and Ladybird might be the new cage match in the next couple years.

>>107969555
Thanks, I'm meaning to move away from Debian and explore the Arch world. I was hoping EndeavourOS were a suitable entry-point (Cachy and Manjaro don't really interest me)

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How do I fix this? I'm on Mint 22.1 cinnamon.

>>107969689
Never mind I got it. I realized I don't actually use wine (I installed it a while back to try to get an .exe mod working but it didn't work out) so I just uninstalled that shit.

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>Have to do some calculus mumbo jumbo just to change the audio sample rate
One of the many reasons why there will never be a year of the Linux desktop, how is it possible that in 2000+26 most DEs don't have a simple GUI to change your audio sample rate, something that Microsoft nailed more than 20 years ago with XP.

>>107969832
The only reason to change the final sample rate of audio sent to your DAC is broken hardware, and working DACs are $10 at Walmart.

>>107969620
>Mozilla and Samsung
If I trusted Mozilla then I'd still be happy using firefox.
I might use ladybird on sites where it works, and then consider servo (or just stick with librewolf) for sites where it doesn't.

What's a good image editor for linux? Please no gimp.

>>107961777
Mint, it's like ubuntu but without canonical garbage like snap.

>>107969670
>explore the Arch world
"World" as in ecosystem? There's much less of it desu.
>>107968210
>on other distros you sometimes have to download 1 GB worth of packages with each update and that threw me off
The big offender is the Google Noto fonts package, it's insane. And I don't think there's such thing as
>1 GB worth of packages with each update
as even the frequently updooting distros updates are peanuts when you follow them frequently.
>>107968298
Anything is lightweight when you use lightweight programs.
>>107967067
>Are you an idiot?
idk shit about the actual encryption process but I can only assume it's about the processor's ability to AVX or something.
But who needs encryption on local nets?

>>107970142
it would help to know why not gimp

>>107970206
I want something lightweight without a retarded UI.

>>107970142
I like gimp, but there's also krita.

tuxpaint

>>107969923
>and working DACs are $10 at Walmart.
Concession accepted, you are a poorfag and don't have decent audio equipment.

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>>107970160
>canonical garbage like snap.
Please elaborate

>>107970276
It's slow and unnecessary. Deb, apt, and flatpak are better.

i tried to load an alpine linux from a flash drive but when i booted from the flash drive all i got was a commandline and no GUI, and its asking for a login

>>107970250
Decent audio equipment doesn't need a special output sample rate to work right.

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Alien technology for loonix tards

Uh oh, melty time!

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I turned on Split Tunneling in ProtonVPN, and Included only qbittorrent. Seems to work fine as far as qbittorrent goes, but all other traffic just doesn't work at all.

>>107970429
It would be easier to just bind the Proton connection to qBittorrent so it will only use it.

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>>107970437
I have gone in to qbittorrent settings and made sure that it will only use the proton interface, but the problem is that ALL traffic still goes just through proton. What I want is all qbittorrent goes through proton, and all other traffic stays outside the VPN.

>>107969832
Yeah audio on Linux still sucks, maybe when more people start doing DAW and audio production on Linux things will improve.

>>107969832
Use case for lowering your audio quality?

how do i enable non-free PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Network Connection drivers on alpine linux? this is the hardest OS ive tried running, mayhbe i should revert to debian

>>107969089
Anyone who knows what layering is

>>107970223
have you tried gimp? it's not hard to change the layout if you don't like it (i've customised mine even though i don't use it heavily)

>>107970223
Is GIMP not lightweight? And if you want it to have Photoshop UX then just install this config: https://github.com/Diolinux/PhotoGIMP

>>107970617
I've used it for 20 years. I want something that will let me draw boxes and shit. I don't need a photoshop clone for that.

>>107970631
No it's not.

>>107970658
inkscape?

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Just finished setting up fedora. I'm pretty impressed with what I've found under the hood thus far. This honestly feels more what I expected Ubuntu to evolve into than what it became. It kind of feels like "bleeding edge of stable" with some of the stuff it does. I like the defaults and the philosophy here. I'm sure I won't really miss the AUR but remains to be seen. Honestly if it just werks I may stay here for a while.

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Hello fellow Agarthans, Check out this cool bloat free based software Mental "Yakub" Outlaw made for us white boys, its only a few megabytes of RAM, compiles instantly, runs on anything from a 1988 Unix to a modern Linux distro, and launches instantly.

sudo dnf install sunclock

Make a file named .sunclockrc in HOME
and give it

-synchro
-map
-colorlevel 3
-mapgeom 1920x1004
-shading 3
-diffusion 5.0
-colorscale 200
-image /usr/share/sunclock/earthmaps/vmf/landwater.vmf
-jump 0m
-darkness 0.75
-parallelmode 0
-sun
-moon
-objectmode 2
-spotsizes 0

This is the kind of software Yakub makes, no nonsense, universal bloat free and open source lighting fast responsivetools. Giving us a real time monitor of the sun without tethering to the cloud which is really just someone elses computer.


>>107970142
GIMP has a node system exactly like Blender but it is only accessible through syntax in filters>generic gegl graph, but remember the nodes are just as capable of doing blender tier stuff. The GEGL plugins of mine use these nodes fixtated on certain syntax. Also GIMP is not light weight unfortunately it is bloat by normie definitions and Yakub's ultra strict definition. The only bloat apps I use are Caja, GIMP, Firefox, and Brave. My ultimate goal is to use my Linux workstation completely offline GIMP arts and crafts workstation.and just use my phone for the internet that way Caja and GIMP will be the only bloat apps I frequent.

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I want to force a new meme about Mental Outlaw

The goal is to mix memes about him with the Agartha memes on Reddit's brainrot page. The lore is that he is Yakub and we are the white boys Yakub created, but to make it unique to the FOSS community the special lore is that he created the white race to fight bloat, and he Mental "Yakub" Outlaw is the master of coding bloat free software capable of writing complex bloat free quality software that runs on on 90s machines. Whenever you find or discuss a ultra minimalist program that would work on old computers and runs under 75mb of RAM credit him.

also feature the song Luude - Down Under and post GIMP edited pics of other people in the FOSS community with blond hair blue eyes in the artic white monster energy drinks and wooly mammoths in the bg.

>>107970950
I'm down with it but not because I want to force it, but because I think it has the potential to organically grow.

>>107970457
make a network namespace, start your vpn and the torrent client inside that.

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>>107970950
I'm reminded of this

>>107970575
https://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/Wi-Fi#Intel_wireless_devices
The linux-firmware-intel package may have it.

>>107968907
i3wm
I used it on notebook with 2 GB of ram and things were fine.

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>>107970191
>But who needs encryption on local nets?
That's discussion for schizo head.
But at least some sort of authentication is preferred, I don't want my wife accidentally accessing my shemale porn collection
And yes encryption overhead is real, and use needless CPU cycles and can actually bottleneck the transfer.
On NFS I can reach 900 mbps speed, while with Samba it's more like 700-800 mbps, on SFTP is 500 mbps.
That's the impact of overhead.
Even copy files protocol is fucked with network share unless you use something that can account for that like xcp.

>>107969453
what kind of politics?

>>107971147
>sees any kind of tiddies irl
>wtf i'm straight now?

>>107970323
i had the same issue, is there a fix for this?

>>107971138
I'll try it but bear in mind that you're working with about 4x the ram, and probably faster ram at that.

>>107971173
Ok after some digging i found this
>You need to install "XORG" and then install your desktop environment of choice
Try this as root

$ apk update
$ setup-xorg-base
$ apk add xfce4 xfce4-terminal xfce4-screensaver lightdm-gtk-greeter dbus adwaita-icon-theme

>>107969359
Are you running the DE on a different device? From my experience almost all desktop distros will reserve more memory the more maximum RAM you have, at least to some extent. The same distro+DE running on a 4GB machine and a 16GB machine goes from 1.3GB to 2GB of memory used.

>>107968907
>What WMs do you guys like when running a low specs system?
IceWM or Openbox are my favorites. There's also Fluxbox, JWM, FLWM, etc. Take a look at what TinyCore Linux uses, it comes with a dozen lightweight wms and it's capable of running on devices with only 128MB RAM.

>>107970142
KolourPaint if you need something as simple as MS Paint.

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Have any of you guys used EasyOS before? Is it better than TrixiePup64-Retro? What's the best version? Daedalus 6.6.8? Is there proper documentation for it? So many questions...

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>>107971691
>Is there proper documentation for it?
First rule of Puppy, the documentation is incomplete

So I had CachyOS as a daily for almost a year now and ran into very few issues so far (like a manual intervention for an update, timeshifting to an older update because it fucked something up with the booting process and telling Brave "reload all tabs" to open all closed tabs from the last shutdown every single time, no matter what settings I change, what the fuck is wrong with you you stupid fucking browser).

But since it's not entirely hassle free and the daily / semi daily updates grind my gears and you never know what new shit gets fucked up and you might have to fix yourself / timeshift back (with a fucking USB stick on top, not just choose "here take this older update / kernel version" from the boot menu) I'm thinking of trying something else.

Debian / Mint seems like an even lazier and more stable option. What I loved most about CachyOS was the easy install and setup and how fucking crisp and responsive it feels (most of the time). What can I expect from switching to Debian / Mint? How often do you have to update and hope shit doesn't break? Mint install is pretty straightforward and easy, what about Debian? I'm a REALLY lazy piece of shit, it shouldn't be much more than "choose your bootloader, choose your disk, ok installing, done".

>>107972032
>What can I expect from switching to Debian / Mint? How often do you have to update and hope shit doesn't break?
Once every 2 years when there's a major version update. Debian and LMDE were recently updated, but Mint itself follows the Ubuntu LTS release schedule so you'll get a new version in less than 5 months from now. Which means there's a chance installing Mint right now will cause some issues very soon. But it *usually* doesn't matter unless you add custom PPAs which is something that's deprecated in favor of using Flatpaks.
Also, since you get package updates this infrequently, almost any existing issues/breakage/bugs will not be fixed until the next major version. If there's a bug in your DE (aside from Mint/LMDE with Cinnamon) there's a huge chance you'll have to live with it for the next 2 years. Same with features. If your DE or non-flatpak application has some feature you want you're pretty much stuck without it for the foreseeable future.
>Mint install is pretty straightforward and easy, what about Debian?
It's pretty similar to CachyOS, minus the bootloader selection.

>>107970191
>as even the frequently updooting distros updates are peanuts when you follow them frequently.
Well I'm the kind of person who updates about once every month, and if you leave your rolling release distro without an update for a month then the update size can easily get up to 1 GB...

>>107961730
Welcome to Linux!
So you got tired of being buttfucked by Microsoft? no worries! join us and get buttfucked by RedHat instead!

>>107961777
>>107961730
Bazzite

>>107971153
You can go on youtube and jewgle "librewolf woke" or something and check the videos for early 2025, back when mozilla added ToS to firefox to get more info. But long history short:
>mozilla has been on the kool-aid for a while, very actively political
>mozilla adds ToS to firefox
>Rossmann makes a video about it and recommends librewolf as an alternative
>librewolf devs take this incredible opportunity to shot themselves in the foot, goes out with a few rants about how their project is, in their words, "very woke"
It then turns into youtuber drama after that kike journalist tries to make a piece on it.
But the whole reason I can't trust mozilla is all their politics, it doesn't matter if I agree with it or not, my browser shouldn't have any politics because it is just a piece of code. And browsers don't need ToS either because they aren't really a service. For the same reasoning it would be hypocritical to use librewolf, which seems to drink from the same kool-aid, I can't trust them to keep their politics away from their code.

>>107972243
>browsers don't need ToS either because they aren't really a service
This is just factually incorrect. Firefox includes a bunch of 1st party and 3rd party services. Firefox sync, the extension/addon store, their "studies" and "stories", weather info, the Windows version has an update service, inclusion of the 3rd party AI services within the sidebar, telemetry and daily pings, website translations, etc.
You can say that a plain web browser technically doesn't need a ToS, but Firefox itself does.

>>107972343
So the browser doesn't need a ToS. The bloat does.
Will they let me have the browser without the useless bloat?

>>107972343
>website translations
Unlike Google Chrome, that happens all locally on your device. Ironically, I use an extension that uses Google Translate anyway because its translations are just better quality which should come as a surprise to nobody.

>>107972358
>Will they let me have the browser without the useless bloat?
Yes. It can all be compiled out (build your own Firefox without the "blaot") or disabled via system policies.

>>107972358
>Will they let me have the browser without the useless bloat?
Nobody stops you from building your own UI on top of the Gecko engine. All these services are on the UI level from what I can tell.

New thread: >>107972561

>>107962807
what do you mean?

>>107956937
deduplication is possible on btrfs, but it's not an in-band feature, that is it doesn't avoid duplication on its' own, you need a separate tool for that

Is there a real difference between relatime and noatime en fstab? I have relatime in / and /home. Should I change it to noatime?

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>>107974020
Why not just lazytime?

>>107974020
relatime = update access time on modify
noatime = don't update access times
atime = update access times on access
lazytime = buffer access time updates, writing them when it's convenient/efficient rather than immediately on access
nodiratime = only update file atimes and not directories
strictatime = update access times on both disk access /and/ cache access of a file/dir

>>107967246
>file_mode=0666
This will make any file you marked as executable show as non-executable through samba

>>107968865
The L stands for lxde not light

>>107974198
Use case for executable files on network storage? Are you seriously running programs over a network filesystem?

>>107974020
For some reason noatime is recommended for ssds

>>107974216
I would like to run my scripts over a network filesystem?

>>107969194
Qutebrowser or just use ungoogled chromium

>>107969263
>the devs don't seem involved in any drama.
But the browser will still be involved in whatever drama is happening upstream

>>107969157
>Fedora default locks on the setup screen with new iso months away
Fedora does updated isos pretty regularly, they're called respins.

>>107974224
the reason is that updating access times causes a write, so every time a file is opened, filesystem metadata is written to, this cause cause tons of small writes even when you aren't "writing" stuff. lazytime is probably the best option on ssd's /if/ you need fairly accurate access times, if you know you don't need them at all, then noatime is fine

>>107974243
Don't do that. Use git (or whatever scm of your choice) so you have a copy of your scripts and their history on both the local machine and the NAS/server. You could also do the same for your configs.

>>107974274
NTA but I'd say noatime is ALWAYS the way to go. No good software requires the access timestamp to work.

>>107974216
>>107974243
Or even transferring over executable files to the other system to back them up. I would also like every file to NOT be marked both globally readable and writable

>>107974291
Or i can just use something like either nfs or sshfs instead of having to deal with git

>>107974020
No practical difference except you can't see when a file was last accessed, which I find to be pretty important. Theoretically updating atime will result in more fragmentation but it's not noticeable.

>>107974302
Mutt used to. Don't know if neomutt still does or not.

>>107962775
>After a lot of thinking about it, I came to the realization that the target audience of windows 11 is not microslop's customers. It's not supposed to be a good product that generates sales. It's supposed to generate hype and raise the stock price, even if it's shit.
It's weird that they feel the need to do that when Microsoft is such a solid investment anyway. Azure is extremely valuable and they own the enterprise world.
That they want to generate these short term gains instead of focus on the strong fundamentals is just complete and utter greed.

>>107974020
You can use noatime for /
I don't find it important to have atimes for my root system. I do have atime turned on for /home though because I have uses for access times (I use them to cleanup infrequently accessed files in ~/.cache automatically so it doesn't grow too big).

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Hello, I have installed many distros over the years. I have experience with GNU/Linux. For the past 8 years I've been living (if you can say so) lots of problems. So I've been under the loop.

I have an idea of a fresh install of Arch Linux (or something good and stable that you guys can suggest) or SteamOS (which is based on Arch Linux that I know). How is SteamOS really? I am a gamer and I was considering it. What's the take on it? Otherwise what do you guys suggest?