>>107973211
literally me

If I start doing CGI porno from my basement, do I count as an unemployed tech worker???

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Why are all the companies so far from my basement?

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>Please note that the position you applied for is consistently listed on our career site, even if we are not currently filling that role. As a result, you may not receive a follow-up response about your application.

>>107973282
MMO botfatm operator is fully remote from within your basement, bypasses all taxes, and is 100% self employed

>>107973363
Yeah, but you're competing on prices with people from Bangladesh.

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>>107973211
>Thank you for your interest in the [JOB TITLE] position at [COMPANY] in [COUNTRY]. Unfortunately, we will not be moving forward with your application, but we appreciate your time and interest in [COMPANY].

>>107973400
So move your bases to Bangladesh :D

Why can't companies just come to me and give me jobs

>>107973318
What is the actual point of this. Is it just to fish?

>>107973561
>Is it just to fish?
Pretty much. It's so that, just in case, some amazing hyper-skilled dev happens to apply you can recruit him and simply "make" a position in your company for him. It's a good way for big companies to keep their feelers out and pick up any actual talent without having to commit to filling a vacant position.

>>107973560
Because you're retarded and there are more people on this planet than we know what to do with, giving employers all the leverage while you have to go through 7 interviews to work at McDonald's.

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>>107973560
The richfags are not reinvesting

Studying for these stupid IT certs is seriously the worst thing ever this shit is so boring it’s almost depressing studying for them.. college was way more fun and engaging, this shit is so ass.

>>107973245
VRchat fansly content?
Gonna go mute and shake that 3D ass?
Probably more tech related than what helpdesky have to deal with.

I was going to work as a casheer while I was scouting for better work. Why do I need to fill out an ehtics survey?

>>107974079
they don't want you chimping out and stealing from them
which is very likely given a cashiers access to money

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>normgroid mental boomer cousin (he's in his late 30s, hasn't applied to a job in like a decade) resolves to get me a job today
>treats me like I'm a retard that's never applied anywhere, tells me to apply to costco and holds my hand the entire time
>"we're going to go in and speak to the manager right now, you'll see they'll give you a job"
>talk to the manager
>they laid off 40 people at the beginning of the month
>okay lets try at&t
>nope sorry not hiring!
>tmobile
>nope
>"drop me off at home man"

>>107973211
I finally got employed, filled out the job application today. First day is next Monday.

>>107974733
>late 30s
I don't care how much of a tard you are, if you've existed for 30 years in this world you should know that no one has gotten a job this way in decades.

>>107974733
>>107974972
Bet you didn't even have a firm handshake.

>>107973245
Are you receiving money from it?

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Woke up feeling energized after tapping into the primordial energy of the indomitable human spirit and even though I'm still whitepilled my chakra has been completely obliterated (I've been awake for 4 hours and already received 3 rejection emails)

>>107975008
It can only get better from here.

>>107974852
I got hired about a month ago. feelsgoodman

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would you look at that, a job requiring my exact stack and experience.

got reached out by a YC startup and they wanted me to contribute to their github repo before signing a contract. seems like some kind of scam. look at the number of forks and pull requests - https://github.com/adenhq/hive

My question is, why even do this? Imagine what a mess that codebase is going to be and having to deal with endless stupid PRs to save some money.

>>107975186
Startups are usually dirt-poor or at least not interested in paying for work they can get for free. I've gotten similar offers before but I always make it very clear that I'll gladly code for them until they hire me - but they pay my consultation fee.
Sometimes they even accept.

>>107975186
so let me see if i get this straight, a startup that probably won't exist in 3 years wants you to work for FREE while you're unemployed with some vague promise of a contract
have you seen the contract?
does it specifically say that you will be hired after X accepted contributions?
how about compensation for your time like >>107975205 said?

>>107973211
Literally me kek

>>107975228
how do you afford all that?

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>>107975086

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I just want to keep coding and working on projects but I have to get a job

>>107973433
just stop being bad at interviews

>apply to like 3-5 jobs at faang
>sometimes get rejected instantly (2-3 days)
>sometimes they take 3-4 weeks to reject me (meaning they read my resume and put me in the "backup" pile)
>3 months later
>job listing is still up
this has happened like 4 times now

5 more months and i can main utwg again

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what does this mean exactly

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Every interview I've failed has taught me valuable lessons
They were not setbacks; they trials that exposed my weaknesses and improved my abilities.

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>>107976789
>they were* trials

>>107975252
Parent's money. They're fault for raising a loser.

>>107976822
*their

>>107976725
it means that you will have to learn a new skill

>>107973211
Nothing says "I'm not indian or a meth dealer mexican" better than "I've been unemployed since graduation".

>>107973211
>on long term-term disability for 2 yrs
>$4.7k monthly
>full-benefits
>I'm supposed to go back on gradual return to work in a month
I don't think I can come back after all this time, I don't know what to do bros

>>107976579
You leave or get canned?

>>107977428
Now you can grow your career :)

>>107977428
>4.7k a month for 2 years
what a fucking parasite

>>107977861
rest assured anon, only 15% of the working age population receives disability. you need to work extra to make up for it.

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NEET bros... How do I sustain myself... I don't want to work.......

>>107978044
affiliate marketing

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>>107977428
What the fuck I'm on indefinite disability (like, it doesn't expire) but i only get 960 bucks a month, I can't even pay the damn bills anymore

>>107978103
do academic studies on prolific.ac
just don't exceed your disabilitybux allowed extra income cap
can do the same on mturk but you gotta use extensions to sift through the crap

>>107978157
if I could just get some work done in the ceramics shop that is also my house I'd make some damn money but everything continues to conspire against me

>>107978181
many such cases

>>107978044
>>107978087
have you retards considered getting a job and providing something of value for the world instead of being leeches?
>other ppl should just raise and kill cattle for me and farm grain and churn butter and make tendies and burn coal for my electricity, but I never need to do anything ever!

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Mirai was created by teenagers btw and you aren't even joining the tournaments. Stop falling for the tech FOMO, plumbing/hvac pays like 30$/hr+ and you won't be as fat probably.

>>107977377
ok i learned it but they don't care because they want someone who was "platform" for 5 years

>>107978337
t. buys stonks in companies openly trying to destroy him
btw affiliate marketing doesn't mean onlyfans

affiliate marketing was a recommendation to someone who doesn't want to work
it doesn't feel like work if you do it right and are marketing a good product
referrals are ezmode and you can still do something somewhat positive
but i guess the guy working for """defense""" or blackrock isn't being a leech o algo

>>107973211
Can I still have a career with a degree and criminal record anons

>haven't heard back from an in-person interview for a month
Do I still have a chance or am I cooked?

>>107975186
Lots of brown people names in the pull requests; I would avoid like the Ganges.

>>107978435
it's literally just sales for otherwise-NEETs
but his high school guidance counselor didn't tell him about it
this confuses, angers the normie

Fuck this do I just unironically sell drugs my sister said she would help me

>>107978044
Sell your bussy

>>107978103
it's from the work contract that included long term disability, so the insurance pays for it. The government neet bux are low in comparison.

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I quit my job because my vibe coded projects started outearning my salary

If you can't make a living in the age of the most powerful technology humankind has ever wielded you may be actually retarded

>>107978604
I struggle coming up with ideas

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>>107978615
"Hey grok give me ideas for projects I can monetize. Perferably those that allow me to use my programming skills as an edge over normies"

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>>107976789
>>107976797
It's OK, you learned that you can improve yourself here by proofreading your posts.

>>107978337
My vision is shit and I got into IT because I was sold a LIE that I could just work without talking to anyone and it would be fine and now the industry is raped with foreign labour. If I could get a job working from home I'd do it but I'm no longer qualified to do most things because of a break from a surgery and I have no idea how to get back into things.

What am I supposed to do when I can't drive and can't even see bus numbers for public transport? Disability is abused as fuck so I'll never get on it.

I am unemployable and it’s literally all my fault. If I just did good in high school, got into an Ivy League got good grades, internships I would be employed with a good salary


Sad

Do you ever get the feeling you just weren't made for this society?
Like there's something fundamentally wrong with the way you were put together?
Like maybe you'd be happier in some actual third-world shithole tending sheep or whatever.

>>107979101
Literally yes but I grew up with no tech playing outside and riding bikes in a third world country life was so perfect unironically

>>107979101
I think about that all the time. It's important to remember than mankind has been on this rock (depending a little bit on where you start counting) about 300000 years and we've only spent the last thousand or so doing this entire "modern society" thing.
Maybe this isn't the way humans are suppose to function? The entire 9-5 daily grind for Shekelberg might not be how humanity was meant to exist and are we even really happier now?

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>>107979101
I'm not sure I would be happier tending sheep to be honest. I would probably get sick of it within a few years in the same way I got sick of everything else. The only time I ever felt alive was when I went camping with family and family friends when I was younger, but it wasnt like hardcore camping. I also started to miss modern conveniences by the 3rd day. Dunno maybe I just am not made to be happy, and maybe this is part of the human condition. After all, if our ancestors were easily satisfied they would have stayed in their caves and mud huts forever.

>>107979101
I think I was born to throw spears at large animals and not die as easily because my head is massive and my frame is also just wider and I get fat easier. Yeah animal care would suit me better too I hate people and will never succeed in "office politics" or be an SME in something.

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How the fuck do you compete with jeets for remote jobs?
>check job on LinkedIn posted 8 hours ago
>over 100 applicants already

>>107979101
every fucking time I have to do some mind breaking shit, I feel like a complete alien, or as some kind of robot, devoid of any kind of social skills.

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>tfw 1:1

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>>107979101
I've worked many different jobs in vastly different fields, but it always went the same way:
>everyone tells me I learn much faster than the average worker
>enjoy working hard, putting in effort
>life is good
>suddenly can't stand my coworkers or superiors
>performance goes down
>end up sperging out at someone
it's just not meant to be

>>107978654
I learned that many moons ago, now I read posts 5-6 times before I press post.
I still have typos.

>>107979101
Oh yeah. Thankfully I got very lucky with finances early on and retired without needing to subject myself to much of the workforce. I feel genuinely bad for people who need to commit to the rat race, it's bad enough just doing enough conforming for women to tolerate you. Probably would've been happier tending sheep if I got an arranged marriage and some bros to drink with and a society that's not so damn negative and repressive

>>107973228
You sound proud to be a drain on your mother who has three jobs to keep your fat ass.

>>107980198
Are you mad

>>107977569
Leave. Im tired boss. I think ill just use up my money, get shitfaced, then lay down on a traintrack

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>>107980524
Don't be a casual Anon.

I have my first interview this year. Wish me luck.

>>107980198
wagie is mad

>>107980843
You can do it bro. I believe in you!

>2 pretty big (for my city) companies are shutting down
yay, 6 gorillion more resumes will be sent to every single job posting

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>>107981009
>McDonald's Hiring Team

>>107980834
But the entire fucking industry IS casual garbage unless i sit down and learn a hyper specific niche for a year which i dont have time or energy or money for
Maybe if i still lived with my parents but im an old senile man in my 30s

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>>107973211
I started a cybersecurity master's degree at WGU so I could be productive while job searching. I ended up graduating and still don't have a job so I'm just unemployed now. Today I got high on DXM (i.e. cough syrup) and played Cruelty Squad. It felt so right. Later I'm going to stare out the window and think about (ending my) life.
I'm planning on taking CySa+ soon.

>the basic ass junior helpdesk job posting that ended over a month ago has appeared again
zamn, the job must be so complicated they can't find anyone within 100 people that applied

>bro ur just depressed and anxious cuz ur broke and don't have a job, go outside and touch grass
>go outside
>nobody is hiring
I sixsevenuinely can't take it anymore

i wish i learned some useful craft skills instead of spending my whole education time on solving imaginary problems

>>107981860
I have that job and it pays worse than working parttime at fucking grocery store while giving me dementia because of the jeet infrastructure

>>107981924
it really varies depending on the company
sometimes it is called 'it specialist' and pays 2x more
full hardware helpdesk is boring
the phone support type is the worst though

>>107981993
> the phone support type is the worst though
Absolutely my previous job paid like 50% better but also had 2 full days phone support which made me want to claw my eyes out

>Degree not required!
>BUUUUUUUTTTT we're going to pick everyone with a degree over u first
>maybe at the end of that list if we haven't found anyone we like, we'll contact u! (we won't)
I am stuck in hell
I should have gotten a degree, but if I did I would still be fucked right now
And what would be the point starting one today? being unemployed for 4 years in a dying industry while pretending I'm doing something and spending thousands of dollars to review shit I already know, except this time some black jewish dean signs a piece of paper certifying that I know how to invert a binary tree? At least my dad would be proud of me if I pretended to be productive while unemployed !

>>107981993
I graduated uni with a bachelor’s of IT in late 2022 and still haven’t been able to find a helpdesk job I would stab someone for pretty much any IT related role at this point

>>107982047
You could always start your own thing. Nothing stopping you if you actually know what's up.

>>107982058
dude I'm not an entrepreneur I'm some autist that likes solving problems. I don't want to try and come up with the next ai powered vr integrated robo dildo, I want to type shit out in visual studio and see green squares on my github profile

>>107981638
I'm gonna share something that I thought could be useful for you, but I just checked it and... it's useless and depressing:
https://old.reddit.com/r/netsec/comments/1qn22ig/rnetsecs_q1_2026_information_security_hiring/
still, I recommend checking it next saturday or something, the sub might be more active on friday.
sorry anon. I hope you are able to find a job soon

>>107982047
just apply anyway

>>107982073
take some random linux utility and make a UI for it. like, maybe make yet another web interface for grep or whatever. someone might find it useful. or maybe find some CLI tool that normies might want to use idk

>>107973211
Anons, I'm in the last semester of my CS-Entrepreneurship (dual major) degree.
Up to early December I worked as an IT manager (for around 6 months) for a small art college and since 2022 I've been (still am) working in escalated issues general IT for a large (partly govt'-owned) company.
In the past I wanted to go into programming, but I've also got over 5 years of experniece in IT in a job and well over a decade and half as a hobbyist/volunteering/at home (mainly GNU/Linux focused, everyrhing from servers, to distro maibtainer, to networking and even hardware flashing).

Seeing as the current state of the market is what it is, and that I started with conputers not with programming but more with hardware and networks - is it reasobale to go do sone certs post-graduation or will that not give the stability I'm looking for?
Anecdotally, I see sysadmins are doing much better than programmer here - but there could be some bias I'm not privy to.

cant wait to come home from work so i can bingepurge my stress away :3

>>107980843
>>107980958
Success. Next and I think final interview gonna be this Thursday.

>>107976411
>just stop being bad at interviews
Not the same anon, but this crap is sent before any talk of an interview.
Jeets have ruined it all.

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>>107982302
Based! Remember us in /utwg/ when you ascend to the working class.

>>107982309
It's still not a sure thing. But I also throw few of my friends at them. I hope I can help fellow /utwg/ ascend too.

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>>107982330

>>107973711
IT certs are totally useless

>>107982336
This, honestly, if you don't get picked it'll be because HR wasn't getting your vibe, not for a lack of certs.

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>live in a major american city
>90% of the jobs here are garbage retail shit (walmart), healthcare related, or real estate / sales
>all the tech jobs are downtown (45 - 60 minutes of driving), there's barely any, and the ones that are listed get 50 applications in 2 weeks
a few months of job searching has made me hate this country more than years of libtard propaganda force fed to me since elementary could ever

>everyone is fat and disgusting
>so the most popular industry is healthcare to stop the fat disgusting retards from killing themselves because they can't put down the mcnuggets and donuts
>second most popular industry is arbitrage and being a leech while locking zoomers and millennials out of home ownership
>everything else is services
>nothing is ever produced

>>107982336
sometimes there are job postings that state that you need a cert
but I wouldn't pay for one, your company is supposed to pay for this shit (and this is how most people in high positions get most of them)
none of my friends needed any to land a decent junior job

>>107982358
I'm in this boat. Browsing for jobs is so demotivational. Everything is either retail, aka peddle garbage at people who don't know better, healthcare, aka keep people alive who should have been dead a long time ago, or insurance, aka scam people into paying stupid fees for shit they most likely won't need.

There's like 3 IT positions open in my area, 2 are junior level helldesk shit that already have a billion applicants and the last one is a senior architect position that requires 8 years of experience. I'm thinking of applying to the latter. Fuck it, worst they can say is no.

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>>107982358
>>107982390
I used to work for Klarna. No job has ever killed me inside quite as thoroughly as that.
You have no idea how fucked people are financially. Some of the stories from the people I talked to are genuinely heartbreaking. Not all of them though, a ton of people have just chimped out and bought a new car or some other crap they couldn't afford.
My former coworkes might be the most soulless husks of people I think I've ever seen. Working in this kind of job pretty much means that you HAVE to get enjoyment out of the suffering of others.

>>107982424
is it that bad?
there's a few klarna positions open in my country
mostly helpdesk though which i'm sure will suck

>>107982446
I can outline my time there, although I was in customer support management, which might not be relatable to IT helpdesk.

Positives:
>pretty well-paid, even compared to similar areas
>good healthcare plan
>tons of company retreats, parties and similar events, all free for employees
>great benefits, company car, open cafeteria and so on

Negatives:
>soulstealing, you feel like you're part of societies problem
>colleagues are mostly subhuman trash and behave like roaches
>the sales and marketing department contain some of the worst people on this planet
>99% of the customers you deal with are financially ruined

>User has problem
>They want it resolved a specific way
>Reply saying sorry that's it possible, here's a workaround
>They request the ticket to be closed
>Close ticket
>They give negative feedback
>"No support given and agent was unhelpful"
How do I stop taking these personally

>>107982506
Kek
Try explaining why something isnt possible if the only solution is a workaround
Also try circlejerking with users. Everyone loves me because im always bitching about microsoft and outsourced team, the only thing they can do is relate

>>107982358
Your grandparents dropped bombs on my grandparents for this

>>107982506
Were they Indian? Used to work complaints and Indian users would often send us the solution (from chatgpt or Microsoft forums) they want US to do. If you deviate or don't reply in 20 seconds they immediately complain

>failed technical interview and wasn't moved onto the next stage
I have undesirable thoughts in my head.

>>107982695
You're going to make it Anon. This one just wasn't for you.

>>107973318
I legitimately believe that unless you know someone, you can't get a job. it's just unreal.

>>107982705
Thanks bro, really appreciate it.

>>107982714
It took me a year (~100 applications) to get an entry level helldesk and im 150 IQ with 5 yoe

>>107973318
>the position you applied for is consistently listed on our career site, even if we are not currently filling that role
how is that even legal?

>>107982962
Who is going to stop them? Why would a politician give a shit enough to fix this?

A few things have pissed me of so much in an interview as someone asking a really dumb technical question.

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I totally understand why people kill themselves
for the longest time I didn't

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>>107983323
kek

>>107983323
100 Ems and she’s on a fucking PJ showing us this lmao

>>107982305
If you can easily submit a job application for a job posting, you already lost.

>>107983106
https://www.truthinjobads.org/
Just need to make a big enough stink and some politician somewhere might see this as an easy win. I doubt it'll happen in the states anytime soon tho, with everything else that's going on.

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>>107983323
>you will wage all your life in a cubicle surrounded by jeets
>some bitch hoing has already made more than your entire bloodline

>>107983429
Starting a business is the only way atp like even if it crashes burns and you’re homeless it’s better than ts

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>other candidate for job accidentally CCs everyone else
>black woman in a wheelchair with 17 YOE