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Is he right?
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I don't really see how anyone arguing in informed good faith could possibly disagree. But a lot of influential people have a large material incentive to disagree at the moment and you might have a weak brain so you listen.
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>Hey AI, write me a function that takes x and returns y
>Read response, it's well-written and performant
>Use it
Explain how this is a bad thing
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>>107978324
>literally who nocoder on twitter

fuck off xoomer, go back to twitter & reddlt and NEVER COME BACK! also fuck off jeet
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>>107978374
op is a jeetshitter he cant explain
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>>107978324
Notch should have bought 4chan
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though hes bold, he has facial hair, it means that boldness is from retardation, not artifical as a chad's boldness. also, he put something on the head to look like a woman.

verdict: he is leftoid retard. not right.
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op shat jeeted
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>>107978374
if your skin wasn't the color of poop you would've just written that function yourself
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>>107978324
>its about x not y
Suspiciously A.I. post.....

but no, A.I. writing code is extremely valuable for no-coders. Calling something evil because it removes a gate.... is evil.....
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>>107978479
Nobody cares, if you don't use it you'll be left behind.
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>>107978479
Can you give a reason that doesn't involve identity politics?
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>>107978479
>>107978539
>>107978547
>>107978557
poop shit the op jeet
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Yes he is right and you can never argue with people who say AI is doing good work, because they simply do not know what good work is.
So many people in software spend their life just passing silly little jira tickets back and forth, fixing easy joke bugs, pretty much doing noting all day. All the thinking was done for them at the system engineering level and architecture design. Things don't get to "program this" until 99% of the actual work is already done. So in that sense, sure, yeah, AI can replace these people to write code but again in a limited scope because it still takes man hours to verify and make sure its done right. I have five monkeys taking up 40 hours of program time each but they've been trained and they know what to look for and there is a near 100% chance they're gonna get it done right by second checking each other's work.

I can't give that kind of agency to an AI. Because then its on me, and its my job, and if I'm prompting it and telling it "no not like that, its for this particular type of TPM etc etc etc" I can just fucking do it myself, and then the AI isn't helping. This is just for the basic retard entry level programmer, from my vantage point we still can't replace them with AI. No point in this entire chain can be replaced. The best case scenario I see if we incompetent but honest people, give them AI, and then it'll work okay. Otherwise this is just a force multiplier for people that were never in any danger to begin with.

If you're building little phone apps and other bullshit that doesn't matter and accountability isn't an issue, or its just for personal projects, then yeah its awesome. But for actual industrial applications or anywhere with risks that actually matter? Aerospace? Defense? Infrastructure? Its just a way to speed up your best and most expensive guys, and your best guy is going to clock out at 40 and tell you to pound sand until monday.
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>>107978539
>but no, A.I. doung brain surgery is extremely valuable for non-doctors. Calling something evil because it removes a gate.... is evil.....
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>>107978594
poo in loo opjeet
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>>107978324
it's fine for webshitting.
i write backend and system stuff entirely by hand, but i'm not gonna waste my time on some div centering nonsense.
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>>107978374
Sure! Here's the function that doesn't just take x ---- but also returns y:
ReturnY(x) {
// type the code to calculate y from x here
return y;
};
If you need help with anything else, ------ let me know!
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>>107978609
>>but no, A.I. doung brain surgery is extremely valuable for non-doctors. Calling something evil because it removes a gate.... is evil.....
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>>107978324
digits confirm it's autistic cope
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>>107978324
yes, he's correct.
you need to review it yourself.
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>>107978374
Because it makes you lazy and when you have to make more complicated function for the 250th time with AI you won’t check properly, just trust it or half as the skimming part and then you produce bad code. Also it allows literal retards to write bad code and ship it around the world.
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>>107978679
You trust a compiler.
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>>107978688
Compiler is deterministic you dumb nigger. AI hallucinates and twists meaning.
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>>107978696
There is undefined behavior. AI is decent at coding. Eventually it will be trustworthy enough as many things you do. You seem to think everything else is guaranteed.
Stay mad.
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>>107978666
Satan is the King of Lies.
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>"In NixOS how would I setup nginx with access logging?"
ChatGPT suggests setting services.nginx.accessLog and Mistral suggests setting services.nginx.log.access.enable.
Neither of those options exist.
sasuga AI-sama.
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>>107978703
World where AI can code everything flawlessly and you don’t need to double check it ever like a compiler is a world where vibe coders are useless.
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>>107978324
No, he's gay.
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>>107978662
Strawman
>>107978679
Slippery slope
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do people see the difference between using AI to write code and giving AI total control over your codebase/software? how is this not apples and oranges, am I being trolled?
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>>107978387
>literally who nocoder
You mean the guy who stole an idea to create minecraft ducktaped together with java that sold well enough he raked microslop over the coals for the property?
What have you achieved in the last two decades?
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>>107978741
Slippery slope is true half of the time, the half of the time it is false is when you badly identify someone’s driving motives and assume they will go down the wrong path. However I identified experienced vibe coders as lazy/wanting to move too fast which will inevitably lead to them not checking and fucking it up.
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>>107978743
They see the difference, it's just that emotional faggots like Notch romanticize programming, and humanity in general, and cobble together these retarded moral grandstanding rationales to be a luddite as a result. As if people are any more reliable or any less retarded than AI. Humans fucking suck ass at coding. At least with AI, I can tell it to try again and get another attempt immediately instead of painstakingly trying to get a human programmer to spontaneously ascend 20 IQ points and understand why their code is dogshit.
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>>107978765
How about this: Literal retards already write bad code and ship it around the world. Human coders are already lazy, and if they're not lazy, they're just fucking stupid and produce garbage regardless. Our best hope to produce good code consistently as a species is to pursue the AI route and never look back. Every project on this planet is a mountain of tech debt. There's nothing to lose.
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>>107978763
He didn’t steal the whole idea, infiminer was just voxel engine with first person perspective. Notch turned it into actual game by adding survival mechanics, crafting, combat, exploration, and better atmosphere. It’s like saying Mario stole from Space Panic because both are platformers.
>Raked Microslop
It’s the number 1 most sold game of all time, if anything he made a massive financial blunder
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>>107978795
You underestimate how bad things can get. It can always get worse, internet is still running and apps are still working, so we are really far away from the rock bottom.
>Pursue AI route
Sure, when it becomes smarter then humans and can do more then small projects or singular files because of small context window. But at that point society collapses because half of all workers get replaced.
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>>107978705
your digitless post has no power here
>>107978725
vibecoders are already useless so that's not really the own you think it is there duderino
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>>107978814
Things can get worse, but what if they can get better?
>society collapse
You're being a caricature of a luddite at this point. We've been on that exact precipice every day of every year since the first ape started scratching his ass with a stick, risking the jobs of all the hardworking professional ass scratchers in the jungle
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>>107978324
I think it's fine to speed things up as long as you fully understand the code it's generating.
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>>107978679
So in other words, there's nothing wrong with it and you have to invent a hypothetical scenario to get mad at instead of the one I presented.
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>>107978539
gatekeepers are there to keep the gate closed
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i don't write any code anymore and i've gotten promoted for pushing through ai gen PRs all day

they call me an "sme" but i'm really more of a liaison between the team and copilot
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>>107978888
Everyone other than newfags understands how to get digits on a slow board like /g/. Most simply have better things to do than pretend they got digits naturally.
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>>107978374
why the fuck would i need ai for this?
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>>107978422
>hes bold
Damn son, you can't even.
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>>107978374
That isn't. Using AI to do the more mechanical parts of coding is okay. It's just not great at the hardcore problem solving or larger scale design yet.
Try using Windows 11 if you want to see an example of what happens when you use too much AI coding.
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>>107978324
LLM's incapable of producing logic? Simply solve deterministic computing.
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>>107978324
Laws are important. Your 420th clone of some webshit is not. Programmers grossly overestimate their importance.
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>>107978609
See>>107979289
You are no brain surgeon lmao.
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>>107979137
Because it can write code faster than (You), and takes up less mental energy to review than to write it yourself
>no not me I'm special
No you're not
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>>107978374
So AI is still just a glorified search engine?
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>>107978374
if all you do is write jeetcode of course you'll find it "well-written" and "performant"
>>107978547
been waiting to be "left behind" for the past 3 years
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>>107978743
People who suck at programming or make programming their identity are more critical of AI tools.
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>>107978324
when you only care about results its the best way.
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>>107978324
Absolutely not.
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>>107978324
> Its just as dumb as letting AI write the laws
Implying AI could do a worse job than the retarded fossils currently doing that.
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>>107979788
people who suck at programming love AI what are you on about
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>>107978324
I'm evil
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Maybe we should stop calling these systems "intelligent", if it turns out those LLM proposals are not intelligent.
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>>107978324
Yeah it's not a good idea in the long run but I've been vibe-coding since 2024 and it hasn't burned me yet. You still need to have a general idea of how everything works. Also this only matters if you care about the long-term trajectory of society, which I have basically given up on.
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>>107979084
basado
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>>107979966
>Yeah it's not a good idea in the long run but I've been vibe-coding since 2024 and it hasn't burned me yet.
why is that hello world taking you so long?
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>>107979981
Was that supposed to be some sort of quippy jab? You should've just asked an LLM, it would've come up with something better.

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>>107979997
>cant even shitpost on his own
>redditspacing
not surprizing in the slightest. to be expected, in fact
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>>107978324
Nope, using AI to meet deadlines is a must. Worry about code quality/efficiency later (and bad code can be avoided depending on how detailed your prompt is or what kind of framework you're using to avoid common pitfalls). The only time you shouldn't use AI is when the task at hand is too hard, but for vast majority of people coding it's unlikely that the task will be too hard.
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>>107978324
Yes. Every time I let AI write code it generates retarded slop that is ultimately just a hindrance and takes more time and effort to fix than it would have been to just make it all myself in the first place.
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>>107980010
>surprizing
>types in lowercase like a female
Once again, an LLM would have done better. How's it feel to be less competent than a chatbot?

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>>107980042
>How's it feel to be less competent than a chatbot?
kek, you tell me.
2nd time youre using one to do your shitposting
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>>107980058
And 2nd time you've gotten BTFO by a bot. 3rd now, actually. Embarrassing!

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>>107980074
>gotten btfo is when your opponent sounds violently underage
mmmh... no.
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>>107980086
All the more embarrassing for you if you just got BTFO by a 16 year old, unc.

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>>107980105
>ill repeat "BTFO" 3 more times and ill finally become a woman
mmmh... nope. ywnbaw
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>>107980134
>brings up trannies out of nowhere
Awww does somebody have tranny derangement syndrome?

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Any vibe coders in the house tonight? Is this true? Do you really spend that much vibe coding?

https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1769498822133861.webm

There's also a guy called Primagen I stumpled on to and he claimed to be spending 25k dollars a year on AI.

Can small companies and the average programmer even afford this shit?
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>>107980144
ummmm... nope.
i see trany, i call trany.
a very angry one, it seems
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>>107978324
love how programmers are malding over the destruction of their precious artificial difficulty. its meant to be a woman's job at best, manually typing code.
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>>107980145
>2k / month
fukken lamao
whos this? what are this guy's projects?
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>>107980145
>>107980161
>ipple
hes a webshitter, isnt he?
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>>107980161
Not sure who he is but this is his github https://github.com/0xsero I was just searching for videos on how to setup local LLMs
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>>107980156
>kot
You're just a closeted trans in denial, let's be honest here. It's okay, your inner self is valid and you should stop denying it sweetie

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>>107978324
After a long while I decided check out what this Claude Code thing is about - I asked it to make a simple C++ program, couple deps, CMake.

It spent an inordinate amount of time making this thing which could've been done in about 500 lines.

It:

Duplicated entire functions when the implementation needed to change like 3 lines between them instead of lifting those out.

Spent an inordinate amount of time writng CMake and trying to make it work and ended up commenting out crucial parts and lying about it working.

Using deprecated (as in no longer existing) APIs and being surprised it didnt work.

After an hour of doing this and not getting very far it told me that it had ran out of tokens and wanted me to upgrade my subscription.

For the first 15 minutes of using it I simultaneously was terrified and amazed, and thought this was some magical software wishing well. After 15 minutes it became the C++ version of Claude plays Pokemon.

It fucking sucks if you're not a brainlet and actually want to use it to make working software. From my evaluation, AI is good at what it was good before - obscure trivia on topics it's trained well on, and spitting out code snippets conforming to a tight spec.

I fucking hate these AI companies who simultaneously threaten with taking your job while their products are busted garbage like this.
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>>107980175
>all front ends for ai apis
ugh
2000 usd/month for that
fkn hell, free tier chat gpt could have done it

>>107980176
>no, u
>an angry one at that
stay mad, trany from reddit
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>>107980185
You need to create a well written specs, add contexts and point it to a bunch of rules in xml or md format as guardrails so the ai doesn't start going retarded too soon. basically you need to babysit it through the whole process or you'll get shit. it does eventually do what you need it to do even on medium sized projects but the bigger the project and the longer your conversation and the lenghtier the 'rules' you give it the more tokens it spends, this is how people like >>107980145 end up paying thousands of dollars vibecoding.
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>>107980196
Zamn, this u rn fr fr trans unc
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>>107978324
No, he's super wrong, ai can do the typing just fine, if you're letting ai make decisions about structure then yeah, but who the fuck is doing that?
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>>107980216
>this is u, haha
you zoomies are truly doomed. you suck even at shitposting
silver lining: your generation will get recycled into fucktoys for pervy uncs like myself
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>>107978324
Good enough for Linus Torvalds, good enough for me.
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>>107980251
shills never sleep
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>>107978324
Any engineering is about intent. What are you trying to do, what is the end goal and how do you get there.
AI lacks that, it just writes shit to please the input. So yes he is correct
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>>107980245
Unc copin hard lmaooooo
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>>107980268
its already happening, doe
uncs hold all the money
zoomzooms are on unemployement

you should have invested your lunch money in nvidia i guess
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If its rust code then its literally the exact same thing because rustroons are basically an ai hivemind that cant form their own thoughts
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>>107980157
Typing the code is less than 5% of the job.
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>>107978594
Sir. This is a shitpost thread. We're here to post >>107978630
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>>107980236
>you're letting ai make decisions about structure then yeah, but who the fuck is doing that?
99.999% of vibe coders.
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>>107980347
>>107980348
>implying shatbots can be trusted at all
try again in 5 years.
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>>107978594
>takes man hours to verify and make sure its done right.
Just push it to production and see if any users complain.
That's how Microsoft does it.
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>>107978374
What's the difference from using something like this vs a guy's answer on Stack Overflow though?
Granted if you're a retard who doesn't know coding or shit
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>>107980382
Exactly, it's just Stack Overflow except nobody has checked for bugs or security holes.
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Doesn't really matter, it will keep improving

>My co-founders at Anthropic and I were among the first to document and track the “scaling laws” of AI systems—the observation that as we add more compute and training tasks, AI systems get predictably better at essentially every cognitive skill we are able to measure. Every few months, public sentiment either becomes convinced that AI is “hitting a wall” or becomes excited about some new breakthrough that will “fundamentally change the game,” but the truth is that behind the volatility and public speculation, there has been a smooth, unyielding increase in AI’s cognitive capabilities.
from https://www.darioamodei.com/essay/the-adolescence-of-technology
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>>107980382
"edge cases"
theres stuff that just isnt statistically significant enough for the ai to "think" about it
happens to me all the time.

also actual reflexion.
like here- it couldnt help because the llm doesnt have a notion of causality
in fact, it doesnt even have a concept of notion, it just doesnt have the capability to reason.
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>>107980405
>t. sand merchant explains how his sand is superior to that of his competitors
ur metally handicapped.
theres no two ways about that.

also explains the fascination with what amounts to an advanced autocomplete
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blah blah you guys are pathetic.
You have hundreds of billions of investments still coming from and to the most brilliant minds our world has to offer, all clamoring about the greatness of AI and yet the losers on /g/ are right and their wrong? Give me a break, you guys are just salty because you know it ain't gonna be long before a fucking allegedly glorified search engine will replace you're asses.
Just because you thought you're brown coded coding bootcamp you took was a way to easy money and you got burned doesn't mean the world has to stop in it's tracks to coddle you.
Get real.
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>>107978422
You couldn't be more wrong
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>>107980405
>car salesman finds out his products are excellent value and that more people should buy
Have you considered KYS?
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>>107980433
>losers on /g/ are right and their wrong?
>their

this, in turn, explains why ad populums and appeals to authority work so well on reddit's public
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>>107978324
He is more right than wrong.
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>>107978387
>literally who
He made the most sold video game in human history in case you weren't trolling
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>>107979926
People who write mediocre stuff are the ones most likely replaced by AI.
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>>107980743
nta but shatbots suck cock at programming anything beyond a hello world
people who suck at programming love ai because anything is better than complete zero
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>>107980770
No shit?
I don't know programming but I have an idea.
A user script to radically edit the funtionality of a web page, automate some tasks.
I explain my scope to the AI, try to be precise using a markdown format then let it do it, against all the data it could access from the page.

It gives me the output, we discuss the bugs and clarify what I wanted if it was not enough and I have scripts that can run for years, at least until the page radically changes.
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Depends what he's talking about, but for certain things (when you're dealing with an unfamiliar API for instance) you have two choices: read the documentation and still miss something important or ask the AI to shit out something you can start from and it will probably take care of something you would have overlooked.

Don't @ me with luddite seethe, what I said is verifiably correct.
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>>107980185
Because you did it the dumb way. The smart way is asking it to make small parts and assembling them by yourself.
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>>107980802
>nuh luddites
this is pretty much the baseline for /g/'s opinion on shatbots doe
the luddites yorue talking about are most likely visitors from another the sharty
they come here only to troll, you will find them advocating both for and against ai retards
and since theyre quite retarded themselves they sound like complete imbeciles regardless what side theyre arguing for
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>>107978324
i don't care what a fascist says
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>>107980827
holy mongoloid batman
hallucinating apis wont get fixed by subdividing the problem into smaller parts
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>>107980185
"Claude Code" or anything like it is retarded because it's meant for building small blocks at a time. That's how humans work, but not AI. Now try giving it a snippet of code with context, or better yet, try giving the entire codebase into Gemini 3 Pro, and get prepared to get blown away by how smart it is.
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>>107980832
what did he say
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>>107980892
writing a cmake is a small block.
you have no clue about what youre talking about
i guess thats what it takes to get impressed by what amounts to an advanced autocomplete
and a shitty one at that (inb4- look at the burn rates)
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>>107978324
At least the AI is writing code. While Notch is doing nothing.
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>>107980905
>writing
*hallucinating from context

also: sounds like cope
>at least the ai writes code
>and who cares the code doesnt work
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>>107980901
My point is AI doesn't think in the small bits and pieces that we humans do. Hence, AI will perform much worse when you try to give it that and have it iterate on that, as opposed to the whole thing at once.
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>>107979788
more like people who suck at programming assume AI will magically make their work gain value, if you use AI to generate completely new code and do massive amounts of dogfooding you're a fucking moron
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>>107980294
I make 2x your salary in whatever europoor 3rdie you live in as a zoomer americhad lololol. We both know it's true, but only one of us is copin about it rn
(You)
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>>107980921
yeah, nah its the complete opposite
because a lil thing called context size

a shatbot works kinda like if it had a page for its whole memory
it cannot keep more information in its "mind" at once, than fits on that page
this information is everything the shatbot can work on at once

too much information and the shatbot is gonna "forget" things
with the current technology this sits at around 300 lines of C
this is pretty much the biggest chunk of code a shatbot can be trusted with.
some of my header files are twice as much as that.
its not uncommon for my projects to end with 1500 lines of headers alone

there exist workarounds, but the most effective among these:
subdivide the task into more manageable bits
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>>107980962
>t. seething since a solid 2 hrs
i think the truth is the exact opposite of what you just wrote
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>>107980980
I just ate, had a nice wank, and took a shower. Meanwhile you're still in this thread and insta-replied after 2 hours. So yeah nice projection there, poorfag esl LOL
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>>107981026
>fucks his own hand and not a hooker
>somehow not a poorfag
kek
next time, ask the shatbots how to larp too, like how you did for shitposting
youre gonna get better results
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>>107978324
AI is much like a 3D printer. You can use it to produce little trinkets and it'll work well, but if you use it to produce something more critical like a gun you'll blow your own fucking head off.
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>>107978324
i remember notch as being a terrible coder whom they spent years fixing up his messes before they were able to move beyond them. he basically won the lottery and after getting paid they took his baby away from him because he couldn't handle it. i dont disagree about ai laws.
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>>107981050
Post bank account
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>>107981157
>post bank account
on 4 chan, right?
+ its not like i dont know how to manipulate an html, zoomie

you thought i was being insulting when i said your entire generation will get recycled into fucktoys?
but youre worthless in any other capacity. it wasnt an insult.
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>>107981195
So you're poor just like I thought lol
Maybe if you spent less time on 4chan and more time grinding you wouldn't be blud
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My position is that AI isn't production ready. I would never use AI art for anything more than ideas. I wouldn't use AI code/answers without proofreading it.
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>>107981208
>thought
another thing you'd be better off leaving to chatbots, kek
its definitely not your cup of tea
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>>107981235
highly likely a jeet trying to justify his retarded headcanon while getting deported, AI won't help with that either
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>>107981266
theyre so tiresome
why can they just go back to r*ddit?
they have likes, and a hugbox doubled with an echo chamber
and lgbt-supportive mods, a wider public

why do they have to come here of all places?
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>>107980841
>making shit up
If you ask Gemini 3.0 Pro how to do something simple it won't hallucinate, simple as
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>>107981266
>europoor seething so hard he started samefagging
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>>107981434
>>>107981235 #
>>>107981266 (You) #
>>europoor seething so hard he started samefagging
go back to Delhi, nobody wants you
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>>107981434
>>107981417
>wait 1hr+, hoping im no longer posting
>comeback of the century
had you waited 15 mins more, you would have pulled this off
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>>107981471
>makes up conspiracy theories for literally anything
lmao
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>>107981479
>uses "conspiracy theory", unironically
>t. fellow 4channers
lolle. ok, shill
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>>107978356
>I don't really see how anyone arguing in informed good faith could possibly disagree.
Perhaps your perspectives are really limited and you assume "using AI to write code" means "never checking anything and just fully trusting in what a tool gives you"? You haven't really told us why you agree with him, so why not assume that you're just trolling?
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>>107978324
Yes.

AI slop jeetcode should ONLY be used for extremely minor and un-important things, preferably not even on software you expect other people to use.
Its shit, on every studied level AI sloppacode slows people down and creates messes no one understands how to fix.
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>>107978703
>Eventually it will be trustworthy
You don't know that, hallucinations seems to be an inherent problems with LLMs.
Maybe it'll be fixed with some new paradigm in the future but if the current bubble bursts then you can be pretty sure AI likely won't improve much for at least a decade and you'll have wait for the next paradigm to create a new bubble.
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>>107978374
>Need to get a loaf of bread
>Kill the store owner and take all of the bread in the shop
>Eat bread

See? There's no problem with anything if you just isolate yourself to a strawman argument and pretend there are no wider consequences to anything.
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>>107978795
If we push AI programming and it doesn't improve enough everything that will happen is that experienced programmers will stop innovating, all they will do is double check AI code. There will be no new good programmers because companies will stop hiring junior programmers and very few people will become good on their own, FOSS is already hurting from the jeet menace, it won't get better.
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>>107978594
>because it still takes man hours to verify and make sure its done right.
Software verification should be automated via testing for the most part. The other part is checking if the code is right by inspecting it to see if it's well-written. Neither of those things are an obstacle to using AI to speed up the process overall.
>I can't give that kind of agency to an AI. Because then its on me, and its my job, and if I'm prompting it and telling it "no not like that, its for this particular type of TPM etc etc etc" I can just fucking do it myself, and then the AI isn't helping.
The point is that in almost all cases you would do it slower.
>This is just for the basic retard entry level programmer, from my vantage point we still can't replace them with AI.
This is the crux of your misunderstanding. You take the position "use AI for programming", and you assume that the other person means "use AI for EVERY PART OF programming", and then you get upset and start talking about a made-up scenario where we never ever check any of the outputs.
So now a question to you: WHY do you assume this is the only way to use the tool? It's like pretending that the only way to use Google is to copy-paste code you found on Stack Overflow without checking. You don't need to do that either, but why do you assume it has to be the only way?
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>>107978765
People who yell "slippery slope" do so because they've learned that it's a fallacy.
It is correct that just because x is happening does not mean y will happen but if there is a plausible link between x and y then it's obviously good to beware of the risk of x leading to y. But it's still true that x does not necessarily lead to y, but that's generally not what people think they are saying when they say slippery slope.
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>>107981471
>>wait 1hr+
It's called having other things to do, europoor. Not everyone is refreshing the thread 5 times a minute out of pure seethe like you rn
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>>107981623
youre exceptionally retarded, anon
its not every day we see people just as dumb as you
in fact
i think you could apply for a guiness record or something
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>>107978774
You have a simplistic view of the world.
You are arguing for changing a known problem for something which is known to be flawed but also have many unknown unknowns.
There will be negative effects in areas you haven't even thought of, people will stop learning effectively, fixing problems AI can't solve will become harder and harder; this might lead to societal collapse. There are as I said many unknown unknowns and how far those problems will reach isn't known.

There is a fucking reason conservative societies survive even though their favorite pastime is fucking goats.
If you rush headlong into something like AI programming with such fervor you replace almost all programmers you are risking all civilization, literally. I am not luddite, I am not against all AI.
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>>107981684
Seething ESL who had his meme job taken by AI lololol
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>>107980010
Reddit spacing is a meme we invented to catch out newfags. Well done stupid.
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>>107981722
>meanwhile, in reality
even if i made an effort i couldnt be as consistently wrong as you are
your parents educated you on cocomelon, didnt they?
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>>107981208
You didn't post your bank account you stupid nigger.
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>>107981862
LMAOOO this ESL seether was a jeet this whole time
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>>107978324
Yes, the AI code I've seen is incredibly low quality filled with bad practices.
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>>107981940
holy retard batman
you 100% have been educated on cocomelon
you cant even do basic reading comprehension
let alone dress someone else's profile
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>>107982056
Whatever you say ya seething jeet LMAOOOO
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>bro stop using a calculator, either do it in your head or do it like your grandpa did
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>>107982087
its no laughing matter
your parents irrevocably fucked your brains with that shit
and its a generation wide problem. unless youre a pervy unc like myself
then its an opportunity
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>>107978324
Looking at the current state of human-written laws and human-written code I wouldn't mind giving the clankers a go at both.
It couldn't be much worse.
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>>107978324
No, its over.
The only software that may survive is the one that is already big, liux kernel, web browsers, big programing libraries, some relevant game engines, those will the time to replace them with IA, but for the rest of the ecosystem... a small product placement website? can be done in minutes, your personal 1k script? totally replaced.
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>>107978324
when the system inevitably breaks down, they need a fall guy. what better way to blame AI instead of the leadership? in the meantime you fuck over the people even more than usual while you get first dibs on what comes out of the digital money printer.
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>>107978594
i have a friend that works as a freelance and the contractor fired 15+ workers and overloaded all the work to him.
He uses Calude Code to program.
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>>107982803
suuuure
of course you do. mh-hm
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>>107982803
So a freelancer accepted a 15x workload?
He seems to be a rather bad consultant.



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