Why did these idiots kill Blu-Ray while keeping DVD? Imagine how fucking convenient it would be to just pop in a dual-layer BD-R into your computer for programs, games, and movies so you didn't have keep them stored on your small SSD or big butt slow hard disk. This move to digital only is utterly moronic when you have such small storage size to work with, especially NOW. Yeah I know the lasere are a probably but we used to not worry about it anymore than a CRT getting repaired down the street.
>>107978334Both are dead.
>>107978334>current gen consoles are literally bluray>nobody uses DVDs tho
>>107978334You can buy a M-Disc compatible Blu-ray player though, even flashing custom firmware is easy as fuck now. >didn't have keep them stored on your small SSD or big butt slow hard disk. Literally what I do, 100GB M-Discs.
BD is increasing in popularity again as the cost of NAND and spinners increases.
>>107978334SSDs are just too dam convenient, especially if you refrigerate them. Pretty much the same thing as LTO tape, if not better.The only real silver lining is blu-ray can be good bang/buck especially compared to a very high end SSD like the 970 pro, which doesn't really need refrigeration to act like LTO tape.
>>107978365>You can buy a M-Disc compatible Blu-ray player though, even flashing custom firmware is easy as fuck now.how to do that and what recorder to get? in Europe and in USA
>Imagine how fucking convenient it would be to just pop in a dual-layer BD-R into your computer for programs, games, and movies so you didn't have keep them stored on your small SSD or big butt slow hard disk.Maybe in the 2000s. It's fucking 2026, wake the fuck up, unc.>Why did these idiots kill Blu-RayI could do exactly what you're talking about, right now. I just don't do it because it's pointless and inconvenient.>This move to digital only>while keeping DVD?You're fucking retarded.
>>107978334You can only write with it 16 times and then throw it away and buy a new? Or how does it works?
>>107978334bluray is silly, usbs are the right idea, merely improve them, that's all
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>>107978334>big butt slow hard diskAnon, the "big" and "slow" HDD is several times faster than reading or writing BDs, plus storing the same amount of data on dual-layer BDs as a modern 3.5" drive would take up more physical space than the HDD itself. What you're suggesting is even bigger and even slower.
>>107978334Just how much data do you need to carry with you? 512gb flashdrives/sd cards are like 40 dollars. If you need storage at home just build a NAS, or put HDDs inside your PC. 22tb HDDs are just over 500 dollars.
>>107978334DVD is cheaper and easier, more companies in China are making it.BD is harder and more expensive, less companies in China are making it so when the main players pull out it dies.
>>107978404>SSDs are just too dam convenient, especially if you refrigerate themdo not tell me you actually have drives stored in a fridge/freezer for data retention...
>>107982222They dom't call it cold storage for nothing...
>>107980792I guess you really could store your media library on a hard disk put into your living room shelf just as you would with optic discs... didn't think that one through huh?
>>107978365Problem with that is that m-discs are ridiculously expensive. And they never went down in price despite the tech now being so old. CD-Rs and DVD-Rs quickly got cheaper and cheaper, but with M-disc you're still looking at about a dollar per gigabyte.I want to like the ideal of archiving data to discs, but at that price, what's the point? HDDs cost a fraction of the price per gb, HDDs are rewritable, they store more data per unit, it's a lot easier to hook up an HDD to whatever device you want compared to how common BD drives are, and you don't have to worry about turning your expensive discs to useless coasters from a bad burn. And while spinning rust is mechanically more prone to damage than m-discs, at that price point you could just duplicate your data across multiple HDDs as insurance and still cost less than the discs
>>107978334it's because every family PC sold during the rise of internet usage had a cd/DVD drive and an extremely small number of people with computers both had say what happened to the computer and knew that you could replace drives. The PS3 mostly sold well purely because it had a blu-ray drive. Production doesn't mass produce without the market, so blu-ray never took off for storage or read/write. Only watching movies and playing ps3/4 games
>>107978334>Why did these idiots kill Blu-RayBlu-ray was dead on arrival. Proprietary format with bullshit restrictions and DRM comes out as streaming and flash storage picks up steam? It never had a chance. It's why DVDs continue to outsell BRs even in /tv/ contexts.
>>107982222Ebin quads and cheap SSDs leak electrons like crazy with some chinese ones losing all your data in as little as 1 year. Every 5C temp reduction from room temp = this takes 2X longer. So even a refrigerated chink drive will act like LTO tape.
>Ultra HD (4K) Blu-ray playback on PCs is no longer supported on newer hardware due to Intel removing SGX (Software Guard Extensions) technology from 11th Gen and 12th Gen processors. This DRM requirement, necessary for 4K content, is missing, making it impossible to play 4K discs on newer PCs, while some older, un-updated systems may still function. >PC, officially can't play 4K on PowerDVDThe streaming merchants are to blame..
Bluray was a mess
Bluray looks good but the DRM and loading software are atrocious.
>>107982408Buy in bulk. I get mine for 2€/each.
A DVD is just a player, a Blu-ray is an expensive computer with expensive software whose only purpose is to protect against pirates.
Why not distribute physical games, software, and films on SD cards or compact flash?
>>107983741see >>107978404Also how else are these kikes supposed to kike us to the absolute maximum?
>>107982567>Every 5C temp reduction from room temp = this takes 2X longer.lol if this were true could you imagine the market for liquid SSD coolers?
>>107984250Impractical and refrigerated SSDs seems to be a very little known fact, even among techs desu.
>>107978351This.
>>107984250As I understand it, electron loss is also slowed by having the device powered on.
>>107978786Every Blu-Ray player can play M-Discs
>>107984250data loss occurs when the ssd isnt powered, when powered the will rewrite data to cells that are losing their charge
>>107978334Let's see.>SSDs got cheaper as well as NVMEs, though debatable nowadays>Companies wanna have you use their cloud and services>"You will own nothing and you will be happy"These companies are onto something. (They want you to pirate, unintentionally.)
>>107978334mpvlibbluray 404keys 404might work in xbox
>>107982567>>107982222>>107978404mein gott... so get a sata ssd, 1TB of vital JAV double wrap in freezer bags with silica packsstick it in the freezer
>>107983741I thought nintendo was already doing that
>>107989226Shit man, do you really want future archeologists uncovering your sick twisted fantasies? Just ziplok it in the fridge, that's more than good enough for your lifetime.
>>107978404>970pro high endIs it? I have that sad and its been a while. Apparently its pcie gen 3 too. I'm not hugely knowledgeable but I bought it cause it was 2tb and Samsung one out at the time
>bd drive production ends right when it's neededjust like fucking everything else. this decade is so fucked.
>>107989226vital JAV...???
>>107980792this, we should rally on the HDD cause for they are the best balance between size and storage, they will kill them too in the next years.
>>107991425You probably bought the regular 970 evo or got scammed. 970 pro has always been like $300-400 per TB for the past decade. It's the brutal price you pay for long term data retention without the need for refrigeration....
>>107978334>This move to digital only is utterly moronicblu-ray are digital
They're already trying to kill HDDs. Went to Micorocenter and they only had shitty 5400RPM drives instead of 7200RPM drives.
>>107978334blu-ray and DVD are both shit.the people who have "nostalgia" for shit like this either didn't live through skipping and scratched disks simply from dust, or have rosy retrospection.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosy_retrospection
>>107978404LTO main advantage is dirt cheap storage and SSD or other media doesn't come close
>>107996845Bluray never really skipped.
>>107997105i too enjoy lying sometimes.
>>107978334Optical media has always sucked ass
