>LONDON, Jan 26 (Reuters) - Video game developer and distributor Valve must face a 656 million-pound ($897.7 million) lawsuit in Britain, which alleges it charged publishers excessive commissions for its Steam online store, after a tribunal ruled on Monday the case could continue.>Lawyers representing children's welfare advocate Vicki Shotbolt, who is bringing the case, allege Valve prevents publishers selling products more cheaply or earlier on rival platforms to Steam by imposing conditions on them.>They say Valve requires users to buy all additional content through Steam if they've bought that game through the platform, effectively "locking in" users to make purchases on its platform.>This allows Valve to charge "unfair and excessive" commissions of up to 30%, Shotbolt's lawyers said at a hearing in October.>The lawsuit is the latest mass case to get the go-ahead in Britain, including separate cases against Apple over its App Store and Google over its Play Store, both of which centre on commissions of up to 30%.Over the 30% stuff and the fact that if you buy a game on Steam or Apple etc, you can't buy dlc from Epic or similar store and has it just work on Steam
Honestly it should be law that publishers can't force you to price something the same across platforms. That alone would kill these shit platforms. Want to use Steam? Then pay up 30% more goy.
>censorship land fighting with censorship companygood shit
Fuck's sake now valve is going to pull its new hardware from the UK
>>107982068that means more bongs pissed at the governmentgood.
>>107982140this lol, steam will just block uk like many other places
>>107982152they didn't do shit when krauts enforced their recent content ratingsin fact, they bent over backwards and pinged all devs to brush up their ratings to comply
>>107982068Valve deserves it for introducing matchmaking to TF2.
>>107982151lol, lmao. you really don't know bongs, do you?
>>107982068>children's welfare advocate Vicki Shotbolt >suing the simultaneous SHIT out of every major techco in existenceBlessed Bongs, furthur so.
>>107982068Just ban UK. Nobody gives a shit about UK, they deserve to be walled. I would ban UK if I were Valve and wait for the government to panic over the backlash. In fact if you tried to login as a UK citizen I'd put who's fault is it and what you can do.
>>107982188everyone has a breaking point.
>>107982151>bongs>pissed at the government
>>107982188This.Bongs love the government there are a few who have an actual mind and soul but most love the government and will do anything it says and will rat out anyone who is against it.Bongs love banning things and being petty and ruining someone else's day and they are all petrified of going against the norm, its an island of mindless soulless cowards.I feel bad for the few that aren't like this I am a bong who is not like this.
>>107982206Why would they break at all when they all support this crap. They're absolute mindless drones.
>>107982226I'd say that the greatest flaw is that it has a working democracy, but 80% of the population is retarded.
>>107982207>>107982236sounds like americope to be quite famalam with you
>>107982251If you actually pay attention to the polls and the support ratings of politicians, they're actually quite high. They often poll and focus group and survey and they use that to guide decisions. But they poll retards with loaded questions.
>>107982068It's very funny that these retards in UK are dictating what american companies can or cannot do. What makes them think they won't simply ignore UK demands? It's not like UK has a digital games store.As for what they're claiming, buying DLC from another store and expecting to work is not a thing. The games are packaged to work in Steam, not on all platforms. It's technically possible to share if DLC is available or not but that would require some sort of shared library. Preventing to sell cheaper or earlier might be a problem though.
>>107982263Yeah, the only thing on that list even remotely reasonable is the contractual obligations to not sell cheaper elsewhere.
>>107982242It's mostly old people and rich people that rape the nation the working class barely votes but is also retarded in its own way.Old people would ban breathing if Starmer said it will stop teenagers from playing GTA V.
>>107982187that and nerfing literally everything fun into the fucking ground. tf2 genuinely isn't fun anymore.
>>107982261>But they poll retards with loaded questions.so>the polls say bongs are mindless dronesbut>the polls are actually manipulated, and dont provide an accurate representation of the political landscapeso it was americope. you could just have said yes. or not say anything at all
>>107982263>It's very funny that these retards in UK are dictating what american companies can or cannot do.Why shouldn't they be able to tell a store operating in their country how to conduct their business there?
are they gonna sue every other online retailer? and microsoft?
>>107982207Bongs will start an online petition that will gather 100,000 signatures and it will be discussed in parliament, and the parliament will say "Lol no"
>>107982298I hope so.They all deserve it.
>>107982263>What makes them think they won't simply ignore UK demands?they implemented OSA/OFCOM age verification, they knelt to VISA & Mastercard, and they bent over to krauts like 2 years agofinancial threats to manwhore's yachts will get acted upon
i've decided i want to destroy steam so i've begun posting on mumsnet (one of the biggest reasons why the online safety act even happened) from a few dozen accounts about how steam is full of nazi contentthese women are retarded and so easy to manipulatecurrently i'm trying to get chat, reviews and forums banned because valve does do any real moderationi think if the uk does it, it'll probably go europe-wide
>>107982285You're assuming too much. Nobody is saying Valve shouldn't get sued or that they won't get fined. The point is that Bongs are a nation of bootlickers who are easily ushered into submission through state media and cultural apathy. I live here so I know this to be the truth. >>107982226 is a Bong who also agrees with me. There will be no meaningful mass outrage against the government. There never is. It's just not in the culture, like there is in France or the US. Nobody asked for Chat Control or Age Verification or AI facial recognition cameras. They just did it and told us to eat shit. Only thing we care about is nationalism/racism, i.e. taking it out on the fellow man, rather uniting against those in power.>>107982299Couldn't have said it better myself.
>>107982369Frighteningly based.
>>107982382forum's also full of terfs so some 'concerned mums' have taken note of lots of trans flags and strange furry avatars as wellgod i love how stupid people are
If there is souch hate to steam and steam so bad, why doesn't any body else start a shop?
>>107982407what do you mean, anybody else?GOG exists. you get to keep what you buy indefinitely. main problem is it doesn't have half the titles that Steam has.
>>107982373>nationalism == racismno, it isnt.especially for an american, of all people youre guaranteed to NOT have a volk>us, culture of resistancelol. lmao even.dont you remember the years 2020-2024?usa doesnt have a culture of resistance since the 1850's.thats more or less when your nation exchanged its soul for a rickety railroadsince then its your industrialists who dictate the american ethos
>>107982407>if amazon is so bad, why doesn't anybody else start a shop>if facebook is so bad, why doesn't anybody else start a social networking site>if youtube is so bad, ....
>>107982105>Honestly it should be law that publishers can't force you to price something the same across platforms.its not legal under current competition law, the law is just rarely enforced
>>107982369UK is no longer part of the EU, they left a while ago.
>>107982440>nationalism == racismThe forward slash renders as two equals signs on your machine? How queer...
>>107982341They will bow down but UK is pushing their luck.
>>107982485yes, but measures similar to the online safety act are going to go in force across the eu in a few months/a year or so.they pay attention to what's happening.the brits are particularly retarded so it's a great way to get the ball rolling.
>>107982491you think white nationalism is a thing, dont you?and you dont see the contradiction in the juxtaposition of these two terms, do you?
>>107982068if 4chan won against the bitbongs, do you think Steam, Apple or Google will not just behead the jeets? maybe they should send the cops to arrest some 15 years white boy or better a girl, the boy may win.
>>107982206That's what you get with unchecked capitalism. Unadulterated greed. Subscription for this, subscription for that. Greedy fucking search services even want to charge personal users for the use of their API, because the millions and billions they make from ads isn't enough for them.Capitalism was a mistake
>>107982068Reasonable desu. A lot of Bongistan's recent moves have been retarded but this one I'm hoping they win. It would force vendors to be mutually compatible with each other which is only good for us
>>107982537no, i'm just having fun watching you try to feed me your favourite idpol redpills, while misquoting me in the most blatantly dishonest way possible.
>>107982551>Capitalism was a mistakeno*liberalism was the mistakeas long as capital is subservient to the nation, theres nothing wrong with itwestern power was built, in no small part, thanks to private entrepreneurshipwhere things went wrong is when nations started privatizing the social contract and their energy productionthats the case for all of europe. full stop.weimerica is a corporate country which privatized everything in exchange for infrastructure, theyre a completely different beast
>>107982565>sad homonemif you dont have anything to say, then say nothingwtf is wrong with your head?are all americans insufferable faggots like you?is it normal to act like a spoiled retard in your country?*looks at karens**looks at niggers**looks at leftists*actuallyyou dont need to answer the last question
>>107982407There are a bunch of other shops.
>>107982604i'm sorry you feel attacked by me pointing out the dishonesty in your argument.i'm sorry you feel the need to prop up the "american" boogeyman to be able to have an argument with anyone (i'm not even american, lmao).go find a hugbox of like-minded bots - i mean... people.
>>107982068>children's welfare advocate Vicki Shotboltwhat has this got to do with childrens welfare? also if she wins does she get this 600 million quid??
>>107982664>i'm sorry you feel attacked by me pointing out the dishonesty in your argument.errr, noyou coped. then i told you>das copeand then you emitted retard noisesdats what hapennedretard noises youre still emitting to this point
>>107982068>UK is suingit's some charity karen
>>107982670kids liek vidya gaems.i think it's a case of whenever you want to push something thru in the UK, you just have to say the magic words "muh childrinz" and it's done.
>>107982604as someone who isn't from the uk or america, i can confidently say the british are more insufferable
>>107982068this move is ok, but I still hate the UK government
>>107982670Lootboxes and gachashit mean children are being groomed to be gambling addicts from a young age
>>107982670she works with mumsnet ;)
>>107982739its not about those
>>107982715unless it's about preventing children from getting gang-raped by Pakistanis
>>107982670>does she get this 600 million quid?A different article said it was a class-action suit, so I think it would get distributed to people who are applicable. Not that I think this suit is legitimate in the slightest.
>>107982068>Valve requires users to buy all additional content through Steam if they've bought that game through the platform, effectively "locking in" users to make purchases on its platform>Valve prevents publishers selling products more cheaply or earlier on rival platforms to Steam by imposing conditions on them.>This allows Valve to charge "unfair and excessive" commissions of up to 30%, Shotbolt's lawyers said at a hearing in October.Yeah that does sound egregious
>>107982111i have yet to see an actual videogame get censored on steam.
Is the lock-in argument even true? I'm pretty sure I have downloaded DLCs for a game that I owned on Steam and everything worked just fine
>>107982068>NOOOOOOOOOOOO WON'T SOMEBODY THINK OF THE (((PUBLISHERS)))??? POOR MR GOLDSTEIN- I MEAN THOSE POOR CHILDREN!kek
>>107982784not really when you consider that xbox and playstation only have one store. developers on pc can release their game on whatever platform they like. they don't even need a platform
>>107982852epic games store is only 8 years old :(
>>107982853>not really when you consider that xbox and playstation only have one storewait, you can't buy games on disc at the store anymore?>>107982864ToT
>>107982493>They will bow down but UK is pushing their luck.europe is the biggest market in the worldnot the usnot the chinksnot whatever browntown you hail fromthe reason companies comply when one of them makes some faggy consumer friendly law is because of this>muh brexit silence
>>107982068>Valve requires users to buy all additional content through Steam if they've bought that game through the platformFactually incorrect, i buy dlc on g2a or humble bundle etc all the time
>>107982853>developers on pc can release their game on whatever platform they likejust how I can sell my stuff on any store I like but no one is going to buy it if I don't sell it on amazon
>>107982872they get a commission from from disk. some consoles don't even have a disk drive. most sales are online
>>107982887skill issue
>>107982493The labour government doesn't do anything without the baking of the EU and Canada. Whatever the UK is doing now will happen everywhere else in short time.
>>107982916sure, but then the argument that "xbox and playstation only have one store" isn't really true, so long as you can still buy and install games from other places.
>>107982936that's the same for pc although steam doesn't get a cut. we're discussing online stores, and on console there is only one option
>>107982200Do this and people will be incentvised to share cracked Steam games freely in the UK. Valve would've shot themselves this way.
>>107982887Yet theres been some pretty well known indie games that sold in their own platform outside of steam without issue
I'm a Bongistani and if Steam pulls out of the UK market because of this single stupid, money-grabbing whore, then all hell will let loose. Every digital store operate like this; I don't understand why she is going specifically for Valve. If I buy a game on PlayStation Store, I am locked into their ecosystem.>Lawyers representing children's welfare Vicki ShotboltOf course, it's ALWAYS about the children, isn't it. >No, we are introducing these online safety laws because of children. We need to ban social media because it might harm children. The games are too violent and excessive, we need to ban games for children now!Fuck these people.
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>>107982880UK is not part of the EU and US surpassed EU recently.
>>107983005How was he even favorable at one point? He's an obvious snake oil salesman.
>>107982068>suingrighteous governments, banding together, defending, helping, caring so much, fighting oppression, human rights, humanity's last hope
>>107983022favorable relative to the opposition, I presume
>>107982068Tim Epic bros we can't stop winning
>>107983005the PM being unpopular is hardly representative of pitchforks and torches against the government, which was the implication.
>>107983005that chart is mega gay, it looks like a giant penis next to a smaller one.
>>107982990you probably support this line of thinking for other things thoughbeit. this is what you deserve
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