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>$200 accessory to bandaid fix a design flawi dont feel too good nvidiabros...
should i buy a 9850x3d, 9070xt desktop when they release the new cpu?currently using a m2 macbook air
With DDR5, if you have 4 of the same stick with the same timings, do you still run into issues?
>>107983246I thought about buying one of those but I spent the money on a thermal camera instead, my case does not have a window anyway
>>107983295its supposed to have a beeping function for when it goes over 9.2A and also allows for software assisted shutdown if it goes over a user defined threshold
>>107983292Yup4 sticks are incredibly difficult to get stable.You almost HAVE to buy them in a full kit of 4 sticks. It's INCREDIBLY difficult to get two 2-stick kits working, or worse, 4 individual sticks working.At worst you'll have to run them at base JEDEC speeds/timings (read, dogshit slow).
>>1079832759850x3d is not even 1% faster than 9800x3d yet it costs more.i'd look into the newer intel prebuilts it wont bottleneck your 9070xt, you get better multicore results, and its cheaper.
>>107983246>>107983295>>107983316fucking pathetic
>>107983275Depends on the board, and the sticks too. It's more of an AM5 issue rather than DDR5.
need to get a pcie card to use 2 of the usb-a ports on my 7000d, are they all the same? don't really need one that also adds ports on the back if it can't handle them all (the 2 from the front io and whatever extra it adds) at once
>>107983321Well, shit. I thought I found a cheap way to have 32GB of RAM by piling together the same model of combo deal RAM, but I guess DDR5 doesn't let you do that. What's the point of 4 slots on a board, then?
>>107983364speed doesn't matter to someone who just wants MORE CORES.
>>107983364its there because consumers expect to have 4 slots when choosing to buy boards, not that its useful to the user or anythingon the bright side, all 4 major manufacturers have released their 2 dimm boards in the last 6 months where previously they wouldn't have bothered doing so on an amd platform
>>107983364It's why many motherboard manufacturers released 2 DIMM models; getting rid of the extra DIMM slots actually makes it easier to get your 2 sticks stable.Having 2 empty slots adds electronic “reflections” that make the signal noisy. But at the same time, FILLING those 2 empty slots adds even MORE electronic noise, making it even more difficult to get your DIMMs stable.I'd recommend buying a single 2-stick kit for 99% of people.
Discuss
>>107983609old news
>>107983609Im not seeing it
>>107983246Buy a good PSU instead you dummie. What ? You dont have Super Flower in your area ? Ohnonononononono
>>107983364You can do it, check that your motherboard doesn't shit the bed and then test if it works well enough for you (it should work at JEDEC at least and it's not the end of the world, especially if you really need the capacity instead of chasing speeeeeed) and if it goes south you can still return it.
>>107983628>microshitter
>>107983609Don't care, got muh used 3090 and new 5090 last year
>>107983651No need to be upset you live in a shit area without a microcenter nearby.
>>107983632>He doesn't know
>>107983628>>107983651>>1079836743 left onlyno more models leftoverpriced
>>107983633If I understand it right, the CPU would be the thing shitting the bed. The motherboard is just facilitating it. The CPU is the thing responsible for not tripping over itself.
>>107983697Yea?
>>107983632>Super Flower
>>107983722$20 says he plugged in his old PSU cables into the new PSU and turned it on and is too embarrased to admit his mistake.
>>107983697thank fuck I bought 5070ti for $650 like 3 weeks ago
>>107983705best buy & walmart is also completely out of stock. newegg has them at overpriced scalper money. it may as well be eol. 9070xt by comparison is $650 and everywhere.
>>107983729The first time I tried to manually upgraded my PC I was a total fucking idiot and plugged the connector into the motherboard upside down.>"But how do you even. That would mean-"Yes. Unga bunga.
>>107983722Super Flower is Seasonic S tier but cheaper
kind of pathetic that even in this crisis nobody wants amd gpus
>>107983738Yeah 40 in stock at my local store, they might as well not exist.God damn retards like you should be lined up against the wall.
I paid $600 on my 9070 xt during black friday
>>107983802There are plenty of RX 7900 XTX and 9070 XT owners replacing them for a 5080 or 5090 because they don't want a Radeon card to be the last video card they'll own.
people are going to wait the 9070 xt hit $750 to start buying because pc hardware buyers are the biggest sheep there is, they fed the crypto mining gpu shit, they bought ram at top prices, they are buying nand like crazy right now that the price is insanethe pc gamer is lowest form of intelligence on the planet, it is an animal made to be taken advantage of
>>107983835>nitpicks one microcenter store
>>107983246actually cool if it works. does it do anything besides monitor? Can it kill the connection if it goes too off kilter? I might have bought a 5090 if this thing existed back then.
>>107983697What site?
What are some good alternatives? It seems price only goes up from there in this tier.
>>107983722>one bad reviewit's over, every psu is garbage.also this sounds like user error, probably mixed cables like a retarded ape.
>>107983881Stop messing with us PC gamers or we'll buy your shit but we'll bitch and moan while doing it.
>>107983729I did this when I replaced mine and the computer simply refused to turn on instead of frying everything. Was it luck or some security method?
>>107983950Depends on the PSU and the pinout they use and the cables you used, and THEIR pinout they used.
>>107983905first justify 1500w
>>107983739I remember the first time I built a computer I not only forgot to remove the sticker on the cpu cooler, but I also put the case fans in the wrong way. I spent way too long wondering why my computer was so god damn hot.
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/gpus/nvidia-dgx-spark-reviewhttps://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/VxfyEiTBoHMrK4xxuUkhsh.pngNvidia DGX Spark review: the GB10 Superchip powers a fast and fun AI toolbox that beats out AMD’s Ryzen AI Max+ 395NVIDIA WON
>>107983960So my actual power draw is in the most efficient part of the bell curve
how do I get a 5090 at MSRP? I really can't see info on it but Nvidia site say it starts at 2000 and I heard there is some lottery to get a founders card? I want one but I can't pay 3k for one
>>107984025steal it
>>107983960Either third GPU with a riser or future-proofing if you will, else it fits within 1200W, at 80% load.The HX1200i is $300 so you are kind of upsold on this model by them. Other vendors might be cheaper at $200 for 1200W.
>>1079840255090 MSRP has never meant anything aside from lucky FE buyers, there aren't enough of them around to make retailers give up on those fat margins.
Should I shutdown my desktop or use sleep mode instead?
>>107984025Stalk NVIDIA's website and BestBuy (by phone or in person). It doesn't exist otherwise.
>>107984103leave it running
>>107984085>4TB HDD
one time back in the day i heard about lapping heatsinks which was all the rage back then, so with only the vaguest idea what I was doing i went out to the garage and took some of my dad's sandpaper to my heatsink. i was too retarded to check what was on hand ahead of time and as it turns out the highest grit sandpaper i could find was completely inadequate. not wanting to admit how stupid I was instead of asking for help I just shamefully put the hsf back on and tried not to think about it.
>>107984022PSUs are most efficient @ 50% load or so.
>>107984103do whatever
>prebuilt 5070 RTX TIs snatched off MicrocenterAnon what are my options now ?
>>107984141That burns power because I have AMD.>>107984161What about Shutdown vs Hibernate?
>>107984022>>107984157My PC while web browsing/watching videos uses ~180-200WWhile gaming ~350-450WWhen doing synthetic GPU/CPU benchmarks simultaneously ~650WI own a 750W PSU.
>>107984190follow one of the buyers home and mug him. nvidia buyers usually aren't well built if you know what i mean. they are usually twinks or neckbeards who can't run.
>>107984190Buy microcenter bundles and have THEM build it for you (or build it yourself and save a couple hundred bucks).
>>107984157Correct, that's where my real world load sits
Do not reply to Nicojeet rage/bait spam.He's upset again he missed creating another biased OP.
>>107984220>hibernateenjoy your SSD wear
>>107984260>oh no the pc writes stuff to the ssd>it's going to destroy your ssd by writing to it.
>>107984022Not worth spending $200 extra, you'll never recoup those costs. Modern PSUs have very good efficiency at high load, basically fairly flat bell curve
>>107984245but that psu has peak efficiency around 500W
>>107984251found the twink and or neckbeard
>>107984251we can't get rid of it but we can out-bake it until the end of time until the mods either perma rangeban or kick our threads out so we go to /bant/ with flags where we can all filter canada flags.There is an endgame here and either way we win.
>>107984284but at 800 watts the efficiency difference between the 1200 and 1500 is 1%, or 8 wattswhich if you run for a year at 100% load is a difference of 10 dollars by average US kwh costafter 20 years thats pure profit!
>>107984375i dont think any consumer grade psu could handle 20 years at 100% load. Most are rated for 8 hours/day full load for their warranty period. You'll wanna buy something meant for enterprise...
>>107983246What design flaw are you talking about?
psus lose usable wattage with time. i have a suspicion that most high quality psus are just higher rated ones with longer warranties.
>>107984413erm actually its 53.333% loadshows what you know
>>107984475higher efficiency means higher quality components as well as less heat wear which has a compounding effect on service life. That's why i went through like 3 dog shit builder series corsair bronze psu's in 6 years but ive been on the same superflower for 7.Good PSU's are worth the extra. No point in cheaping out. You WILL be replacing a budget unit sooner than you think. And every time you have to you're rolling two dice and if you get snake-eyes it'll fry your rig when it goes.
>>107984460most 12vhpwr gpus are garbage built and have no protections. take a look at some pcbs sometime.
>>107984486got it psu's are shittier than i'd thought and people should buy 2x the watts they will pull.
>>107984496i run ultra chepo ones all the time. i don't care about my hardware. never had one blow up or stop working. ran my 3080 from an extra no name psu because i didn't want to replace my old 550w one.
>>107984284Never said I was doing it for savings either.
>>107984533uncommon luck or relatively little time in the hobby
>>107984545i build my first own pc in 2009. had a phenom x4 955 black edition. that is when it all went wrong.
Is an R5 9600X good enough for doing basically anything with? Where would I run into problems?
>>107984584hmm maybe you just dont spend a lot of time with your pc on. Mine is on 24/7, if you turn it on sit down for 2 hours a day then turn it off i could see these crappy no-name psu's lasting a decade perhaps.
I can't get the idea of buying an OLED monitor out of my head
>>107984609pc runs and if i am not present to click the buttons it goes to sleep after 30 minutes. i do come home from work and sit at my pc usually. this has been my life since 2009.>>107984607anything that NEEDS MORE CORES.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3MjSxysft0but pcbg told me dlss 4.5 was better.......
>>107984656they were right
>>107984656you are slow>>107981435
ayymd better not crash the 5800x3d value by releasing a 5850x3d and 5750x3d. its just not worth reconstructing the fabs. its TOO OLD
>>107984698i hope they do it. fuck everyone. would fuck intel more than amd really. would be funny.
>>107984698why would they do that when they can sell the dies as server parts for double the price
>>107984656Tim concluded that DLSS4 was already better than FSR4 overall, and he prefers using DLSS4.5 in Performance mode over the 4.0 K Preset.Imagine DLSS4.5 Performance being better than whatever option FSR4 has to offer.
>>107984733are they still selling zen 3 servers with ddr4? like isn't everyone upgrading to ddr5 and zen 5?
it's insane how there's literally no reason to buy nvidia cardsyou literally can't see the difference between fsr4 and dlss 4.5 in motion while gaming, only autists that pause games to look at grass would find any differenceboth nvidia 50 series and 9070 xt can't do path tracing and will both be rendered obsolete by next genvulkan is only 20% slower than cuda on AI benchmarkspeople buying nvidia are chained to microslop spyware and they are paying 50% higher prices for thatthe pc goymer really is exists to be lied to and taken advantage of by corporations and scams after all
>>107984616Honestly, same. I want to upgrade from my 1080p 60hz IPS that's nearing 10 years old. The msi MAG 271QPX is going for around 400-430 euro right now, which is in the territory where it's still a bit of a splurge but not ridiculously so. Mostly I'm just worried about text fringing since I play mostly rpg games, and the flickering that I've read about in several reviews. I've only got a 5060ti, so it's not like I'm going to be consistently pushing 240 frames all the time. Then there's also the fact that you need to take care of it more than an ips to keep the degradation of the panel as slow as possible. And I start to doubt again if I shouldn't just get a 1440p IPS instead.
>>107984500Ah I see, luckily I'm in the clear then cause the 5060ti 16gb I use has an 8 pin, still waiting for my motherboard to be delivered so I can finally start setting it up.
>>107984764You have lower standards; that's your lane. Stay on it.The market says everything about the popularity of GeForce RTX & DLSS.The loudest Retardeons in these threads use Windows 11 btw, not Troonix.
>>107984861>You have lower standards>defends dlsslmao
>>107984764>only 20% slowermy time has value and if i have to stroke my dick 20% slower just because my gpu is pumping out gay furry cub slop slower that is NOT worth it to me.
>>107984908>my time has value>is on 4chan>posts tranimelmao
>>107984764If you're coming from the perspective of someone who buys the newest card every time they come out, yes. But most people probably go up multiple generations at once.
>>107984877>you literally can't see the difference between fsr4 and dlss 4.5 in motion while gamingThat's your cope standards. DLSS4 + 4.5 is objectively superior to FSR4.Stop pretending the quality of these upscalers doesn't matter when game developers are accounting for their performance uplift.>'I don't play new games!'You don't need these new cards to play old games at high settings.
>>107984913he may have lower standards but you are still using dlss. the shit you are eating is just less hard and less brown.
>>107984911yes thanks for observing obvious things
>>107984912you can still respect your wallet and take long jumps between upgrades, those are not mutually exclusive, I upgraded from the gtx 1070 to the 9070 xt
>>107984929DLSS is not shit, "native TAA" is shit.HWUB Tim says he's satisfied with DLSS 4.5 Performance's image quality. That's how far we've come since Turing DLSS.Your time's past; it's wasteful to design gaming GPUs targeting full native rendering.Look at the die size & core count it takes for the 5090 to provide 50% faster performance than a 5080.
>>107984976>DLSS is not shitit is>"native TAA" is shit.that is truedlss only look better compaired to dogshit. really an achievement.any games that have to rely on dlss and fsr upscaling and frame gen aren't worth playing anyways. fsr and dlss native are fine tho. upscaling and frame gen is were i draw the line to shit. anyone using it for that and bragging about how the image quality looks is some boomer faggot without working eyes.
never going back to the backlight meme
>>107985024>any games that have to rely on dlss and fsr upscaling and frame gen aren't worth playing anyways.jesus spoke the truth, and they hated him for it
>>107984976>Look at the die size & core count it takes for the 5090 to provide 50% faster performance than a 5080.marketing. oh we can't sell you better gpus. we have to sell upscaling tech now.
>>107985024Dipshit larping as someone who respects their wallet, kek'd.>any games that have to rely on dlss and fsr upscaling and frame gen aren't worth playing anywaysThen you don't need to buy these cards; you should've bought a discounted RX 6000 if you're not going to use the RX 9000 + Redstone features you paid for.RX 7000 is an obvious trash that should be skipped, even AMD abandoned these cards wrt FSR4 + Redstone featureset.
>>107985034only one of those screens will have burn-in stains after taking this picture
fcking nigger believes all the marketing nvidia puts out. no we can't make better gpus. native was a waste anways. moore's law is dead. fucking dogshit excuses to sell some ai bullshit to niggers. there is just no other way to make gpus faster guys... i swear! we have to rely on upscaling and framegen to make games run better now. trust us.
>SAMSUNG SSD 990 PROIf I update the firmware these are ok right? Pretty slim pickings at the 100 dollar price point...
>>107985091i have two fucking eyes and can run older games with 8x msaa and they look just as dogshit as the new ones but with better aliasing and more wasteful tech at native. nigger faggots.
>>107984460anons buy chink cables for muh visuals and are suprised they dont survive 600 Watt continous load @ 60°c ambient temperature
>>107985038did jesus also use the nword?
what are valve's intentions for steamos? is it going to be "designed for steam machine but try it on your own hardware if you like", or are they going to make it a full fledged, viable distro? will it be a complete operating system or just a gaming frontend like xbox and playstation?
>>1079850915070 ti equivalent (gtx 970 -10%) would have been worth $300 in 2015. gold is 5x higher than it was in 2015. Fair value for a 5070 ti is $1500. You're getting a bargain being able to buy it at $900.That's just how currency debasement goes. If you want $300 mid-upper range gpu's today that would be like them selling it for $60. Absolutely deranged fantasy.>b-b-but not everything has gone up 500% since 2015...sure sure, some things are subsidized to prevent the peasantry from starving and looting, such as food. But in the end, money is worth 1/5th what it was and nvidia haven't scalped to the max yet. Buy now or cry later when price discovery does take place and 5070 ti's cost $1500.
>>107985133if he ever saw one im sure he would
>>107985139I'd love to go to 2009 back again
>>107983359bwos?
>>107985091>there is just no other way to make gpus faster guys... i swear!It's not about the feasibility; it's about the efficient use of silicon.Doubling shader cores rarely doubles performance; you can use 5~10% of the silicon for on AI cores to get +200% performance for a fraction of the transistor cost.That's why literally every major dGPU designer is adding those AI cores.
>>107985154me too man... me too... or 2006 when i ran an invisionfree forum like with 20 active nerds. I think i peaked with that dog shit red and blue CSS.
>>107985182aliexpress will have thousands of options for those types of things
>>107985139don't care about gold. ps3 and ps5 aren't some gold investments. i don't buy the gold shit. i care about the dogshit bickering about upscaling. nuhh uhh fsr is better. nuhh uhh dlss is better. fuck crap. spend like 800 bucks on a gpu and you get ai dogshit software to make your games run non shit at settings old games used to run perfectly fine at. fucking progress but the faggot kind. buht it looks so good! it looks just like native. no it doesn't fucking faggot. get your eyes checked. scrape off that vaseline from your screen and shove it up your ass fucking homo.
>>107985195what I miss the most is the music, justice, daft punk, mstrkrft, bloody beetroots, sebastiAn, it's all gone downhill
>>107985198>i don't buy the most widely accepted tracker of currency debasement for the last 10,000 yearsok, you can go and be a retard. Trust the feds, printing is good. QE is talmudic sorcery and the ponzi literally can't go tits up. Enjoy the taste of boot.
>>107985197read the question again
>>107985189so just a cost cutting messure but the gpus keep getting more expensive. nice one. sold that one very well. now turn arround.>>107985220don't care about paper gold. if i can't see it it doesn't exist.
>>107985236it's spot price my nigga you can go sell an ounce of gold to your local pawn shop for $5,000 minus a few percent.
>>107985198You don't play games that rely on these upscalers, yet you're acting like a woman over it. You're the only faggot in this conversation.These native-only retards don't realize they still paid for all those RT & upscaling features on their new GPUs.
>>107985255you are using those and acting like you care about having "standards". fuck off.
>>107985255>These native-only retards don't realize they still paid for all those RT & upscaling features on their new GPUs.people were paying for sli most didnt use. people were paying for physx most didnt use. most people have 30% or so of their cpu's silicon devoted to an igpu they simply do not use. PC's are like that. Welcome to the hobby.
you can make gpus faster on the same node btw. nvidia has done it before. you can also just make cheaper gpus with more ai. that also works. make the whole gpu ai for all i care but don't hide behind we can't make it better. while making it cost more. price of silicon goes down usually. not my problem that you used the premium process for gaming cards.
>>107985236>so just a cost cutting messure but the gpus keep getting more expensiveYou bought a 9070 XT; you're part of the problem. It doesn't matter if you don't use FSR4.I'd argue AMD is being more of a profiteer when they don't even make large-sized gaming GPUs anymore.That's also why AMD tried out memory chiplets with RDNA3, to minimize 5nm production costs compared to selling a high-end, monolithic 5nm gaming GPU.
>>107985134>Users should not consider SteamOS as a replacement for their desktop operating system.its primarily for their steam hardware. you can install it on your machine but if you're going to install linux you may as well actually use a real distro instead of something meant for handhelds or vr headsets.
>>107985270>you care about having "standards"DLSS 4.5 is better than native TAA, you can fuck off.>'But I don't play those types of games!'Then you don't need to buy any of these newer cards with RT & AI cores; RX 6000 is more than enough to play older games.Stay in your lane.
>>107985308like there was the 28nm era and we didn't stagnate all of a sudden with high gpu prices and no performance with upscaling.
>>10798533828nm is coincidentally when cost per transistor stopped going down with node shrinks and has only gotten more expensive ever since. And we still have people who think nvidia should be selling gpus at pascal prices. Lunatics. Poor lunatics.
>>107985335>DLSS 4.5 is better than native TAAit's better than shit. basically don't care. it's like saying fxaa is better than no aa.
>>107985354still didn't make gpu prices explode. so the logic doesn't work.
they can give you less ROPS and put in a dedicated frame gen unit and you guys will still praise nvidia
>>107985382but we can't do it any other way!!!
>>107985359>basically don't carePeople like you don't need to concern themselves with these conversations, then.You clearly care since you can't shut up about it.You still paid for FSR4, FG, and the other Redstone features, whether you toggle them on or not.Thanks for subsidizing those development costs, which will trickle down to the PS5 Pro and PS6.That's what Radeon customers are for, they're paying to test AMD GPU architectures & graphics features for Sony.
Alright. Roast me and tell me what I'm doing wrong.https://pcpartpicker.com/list/73Zmfd
>>107985396you are compairing dlss to taa which is like the worst form of aa (don't count fxaa). basically anything is better than it.
>>107985093RESPOND NOW
>>107985400you are buying 4 sticks of ram and you don't need an aio for that cpu and there's no gpu
>>107985365because it's a gradual process.
>>107985406>you are compairing dlss to taa which is like the worst form of aaBecause that's the AA that's applied at "native" resolution in new games. Get with the times.>'I don't play those new games!'Then you don't need to involve yourself in these conversations!You're acting like some black woman who needs to have an opinion about everything.
>>107985426After looking into the subject, I'm forced to conclude that the "don't use more than 2 sticks of RAM" is overclocking logic bullshitted into the general consciousness. And it's only $100 for the second set, so I can sell them if it doesn't work out.
>>107985409yes the durability melting issue was fixed years ago update the firmware and you're good. I think you need a shitblows machine to do that though, so if you're on troonix you may need to use a nigblows vm to update the firmware kek
>>107985409The firmware should be updated at the factory by this point.Get Magician to check the firmware.
>>107985448it's very tru when dealing with dual rank sticks. I am not actually sure if 4x single rank is more demanding on the memory controller than 2x dual rank. I was able to get 2x dual rank running at a reasonably good speed on my 14900k but 4x dual rank was a nightmare
>>107985451you can do it without spyware on linux. just have to use your brain.
>>107985451>>107985459Sounds good, thanks anons, still can't believe I'm spending 100 bucks on this trash but at least it's an option
>>107985471I'm curious about that, how do you do it? I wonder if I can upgrade the firmware on my truenas HDDs
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/HTCGmCHow fucked am I? Genuinely considering returning the Assrock (unopened) and getting a gigabyte/msi MB
>>107983246Isn't this happening to 9070 XTs too?
>>107985495you'd prob need to look up how it is usually done by the hard drive maker. the may have a cli tool for it on linux.
>>107985505The board shouldn't kill a 9600X after the BIOS update, but get a different one for peace of mind.No one really knows what's causing the Ryzen CPUs to die.
>>107985525a quick google search reveals there is no way to update the 990 pro firmware on linux, but you can boot into a firmware update tool off a usb so it doesn't really seem to matter.
>>107985519theres only two models with that connector. the rest all use multi 8-pin.
i put this together in 10 minutes as an exercise. no open box or refurbished deals, just discounts and microcenter prices. what are your critiques for it as a budget build?
>>107985519Either the power adapter bundled with those 9070 XT is defective, or people didn't fully seat it.It takes something special to cause those 12V-2x6 power connectors to melt on a card that draws less than 400W of power.
>>107985549you said hdds. not nvme ssds. for samsung drives you'd need to download the firmware .bin file and falsh it via another tool.
>>107985539>No one really knows what's causing the Ryzen CPUs to die.I can spitball an answer. ASRock have had issues with QC relating to fastening in the past. As in, bits and pieces of motherboards being improperly set and secured. So a good bet is that, under prolonged use, thermal expansion of improperly fitted components could result in shorts.Complete speculation based on reading over stuff over the last 3 days.
>>107985571terrible cpu, get something better
>cleaning room>decide to clean filters and around PC>accidentally suck on one of the front fans with vacuum>oh shit.jpg>continue cleaning and turn monitor back on when I'm done>pc is frozenWew, got scared for a sec but it's working fine after a reboot. Can't afford to replace parts with these prices.
>>107985589just sell your old shit as working and say it broke in transit.
>>107985589Kek I remember I vacuumed near my PC and it crashed too. I think its the static.
>>107985571Cezanne AM4 CPUs are basically Zen 3.5; They limit the GPU to Gen 3 x8 mode.But the $30~50 extra for a 5600/X isn't worth it.
Have all this ram, what do?
>>107985589You bricked your pc.. Almost guaranteed to die within the next 24 months now.https://www.allpcb.com/allelectrohub/the-hidden-threat-understanding-latent-esd-damage-in-pcb-assemblySorry to be the bearer of bad news. If you're lucky the damage is relegated to the mainboard.
>>107985636sell it
>>107985599Doesn't ebay generally side with the buyer?
>>107985466I am just really spooked by the idea of buying only 16GB and then ending up with OOM errors when trying to use Linux. Because when I tried to use 8GB with Linux, it just kept crashing instead of throttling memory use.>>107985426>and there's no gpuRegarding this. Later. The iGPU on the 9600X is better than my current GPU.
>>107985652just blame the transit company. they usually have to pay.
>>10798565616gb is enough for linux gaming, but buy the ram anywayand get an used 5700 xt or smth at least, or a rx 6600, these are still pretty fine 1080p cards
>>107984764>https://videocardz.com/newz/zotac-korea-warns-of-steep-rtx-5090-and-rtx-5060-price-hikes-says-some-models-may-be-unavailable-for-a-whileSo will novideo shills continue to pretend the 9070 XT is not the price performance king when nvidia is selling a 5060 8gb for $999? in raster and if you play at native without turning DLSS on no card is as fast at 1080p because novideo overhead.
>>107985640
>>107985666thats for lost items not broken items.
>>107985563>>107985574So yes?
>>107985685Thanks for confirming Radeon cards are the ones you settle with when your first choice is unaffordable.
>>107985093>990 PRO>100 dollar price pointIn what universe?
>>107985724It rarely happens, but I'd avoid using Sapphire's bundled 12V-2x6 adapter.
No microcenter, you can't trick me that easily.
>>107984764>can't do path tracing and will both be rendered obsolete by next genYou speak like pathtracing will only get more expensive to run instead of easier to run, you may get a big surprise next month when resident evil requiem launches if they are using the latest shader model 6.9 that has native supprot for SER and opacitiy micromaps on nvidia hardware
>>107985754rofl$4k.. jesus fucking christ lol
>>107985724Most people are buying mid range skus not ROG Strixs, ROG Astrals, and Taichis.
>>107985758JP devs won't use all those new features. Get real.
>>107985189>AI cores to get +200% performanceFake performance is not real performance and will never be.
>>107985571That gpu has a pcie gen 5.0x8 interface and the mobo has a pcie gen 3.0x16 slot. It's essentially going to run at pcie gen 2 (TWO!) speeds. Consider changing to a gpu with a x16 interface or a board with a gen 4.0 slot if you want am4.
>>107985780We will see, the point of having those features running natively on clang and DXIL is that is extremely easy to implement, they dont have to code anything just run the sdk library and make a call like RayQuery<RAY_FLAG_NONE> q;RayDesc ray; and thats it, well we are 1 month away from it so if i am right remember my post
>>107985792You're all funding the development of these upscalers when you buy a new GPU.AMD exec David McAfee's been saying upscaler is a feature gamers want.
>>107985817The board isn't the only bottleneck; the 5500GT Cezanne CPU is capped at Gen 3.0 x8.The performance penalty isn't that bad if he needs to minimize spending.https://www.techpowerup.com/review/nvidia-geforce-rtx-5060-ti-pci-express-x8-scaling/28.html
>>107985745>>107985778So yes?
>>107985906Not at the scale where 9070 XT owners need that WireView Pro peripheral.5090 & even 4090 owners should consider buying the current monitoring tool.
>>107985932So yes it is happening?
>>107985906No on my cardidc about u bitch
>>107985959>>107985964
>>107985959just don't buy one of three fucking models that have it. it's not that hard.
>>107985977I think I'm just gonna buy a 5070Ti than deal with any of this shit.
>>107985959Not at the scale where 9070 XT owners need to consider that WireView Pro II.You lose.
>>107985992why?
>>107985992they all have it lel.
>>107985992itsworse than9070xt and costs$1300 cad
>>107986010>>107986012>>107986013>>107986022Just not gonna buy an exploding GPU, I don't care how much you try and defend it or claim it isn't happening.
>>107986045and the 5070ti has the same exploding connector ur talking about so why are you buying it instead of the one without
>>107986045so you are going to buy another gpu but all of them have the same connector now and the same connector is the only problem all of those gpus have in common?
>>107986045ur low iq u cant read
>njeetia shill melting this hard about connectors on all njeetia cards
Can burgers even buy the new wire pro? Looks like it would ship from Europe and I don't wanna deal with tariff stuff
>>107985133jesus was an nword, so of course>>107985255i can still deny them the usage statistics and data collection from my machine, anon. they can collect the data, but if I don't use the AI cores, it's less valuable to them
>>107986117No one gives a shit about your single data point; they got your money, and they're using it to develop better upscalers and frame generation.Those aren't limited to NVIDIA GeForce anymore.You're just another faggot pretending to be a conscious consoomer.Don't buy GPUs hardware-accelerated upscalers if you hate them.
>Nvidias software monitoring and tweaking is so shit people need external hardware and russian afterburner to monitor crapLmao
>>107986075>>107986060>>107986059Oh okay, so where are the reports of it happening to a 5070 Ti?
>>107986157>Nvidias software monitoring is so shit people need external hardware to monitor crapLmao
>>107986157https://www.pcguide.com/news/even-the-rtx-5070-can-melt-cables-user-reports-with-a-potential-root-cause-spotted/
I was looking at a pre-built for $2200 that has a 9700x 64gb 6000mhz and a 5070. Is that a good price considering the ddr5 price spike?
Is it too late to buy a shit tier 5070 Ti at Microcenter for 850-900 dollars or 5070 for 610 dollars?
>>107986157https://en.gamegpu.com/news/zhelezo/rtx-5070-ti-chut-ne-sgorela-iz-za-nepravilnogo-pitaniya-12vhpwr
>me when i find nicotroon
>>107986175>>107986154>>107986089Get a job you Canadian jeet.
>>107986237gay sex? both of you are tranime pedo niggers after all.
>Nvidias software monitoring is so shitUnironically they no longer expose some temperature sensors in Blackwell models for whatever forsaken reason.
>>107986250my skin is white as snow and im not an invader in the country i reside in is our biggest difference. also im not low iq or a shill.
>>107986257>my skin is white as snowso you don't go outside?>im not low iqdebatable
>>107986268why would i go outside? my computer is right here...
>>107986250>tranimeGo back.
>>107986276so you can find nicotroon?>>107986280yeah yeah whatever go back to /a/ and or /lgbt/ or reddit. don't care.
>>107986187>>107986227So not nearly at the rate of the 9070XT?
>>107986292but with the option to buy a dual 8 pin 9070xt while you can't buy a 5070ti with dual 8 pins.
>>107986287>go backironic
>>107986308rather low ammount of tranime boards for an anime website. i do give you /lgbt/ and /trash/ those are clearly your boards. i am nice like that.
the 7800x3d in AM4 will save pcbg, we'll all be talking about how to tune hynix CJR and DJR to lowest latency
>>107986302>Only available on underclocked versions of the 9070XT>So now you can spend $CAD1500 for an even weaker variant of a card not as powerful as the cheaper 5070 Ti.Price Performance King strikes again.
>5070 Ti at $960 at the cheapest>5070 at $620 cheapest>5060 Ti 16Gb at $460-$550This is the peak, right?
>>107986327we get it you came here at some point after 2015 and don't understand the website, just shut up already
>>107986330still got some 3600mhz cl 16 16 16 36 ddr4
so done with these fucking driver issues on my 5070 ti. i was in the middle of typing up a shitpost dunking on the AMDrones ITT when my screen went black and I had to turn my whole pc off. im rmaing and switching to 9070 xt fuck it idc anymore.
>>107986358we get it you misclicked and ended up on /g/.
>>1079863603600 16 only with loose secondaries and tertiaries, with very tight ones you have to stay at 18 tcl
>>107986355Why are you lying on the internet?
>>107986407why isn't that on pcpartpicker anon
>>107986430Because they don't do referral links, so PCPartPicker can't profit from linking their parts.
>>107986458but anon they link to sites like lenovo that also don't use referral links
>can't post a single listing that isn't from that one microshitterSending their best.
>>107986407Not in my backyard
>>107986533This retard thinks AMD Radeon's winning when fewer people want to pay over $600 for their cards.
So is sleep mode still buggy on desktops??
>>107986496yeah idk what he's talking about, it's probably because microcenter is a walk-in store and prices/availability are going to depend entirely on your location. You'd have to provide that to pcpartpicker and pcpartpicker would have to do some sort of communication with microcenter to find your nearest store or whatever and it's just a pita.Microcenter has great prices on choice items like cpus or gpus because their main goal is to get you to walk into the store so that you look around and buy other stuff too. Think of it like costco hotdogs.
I passed on buying the 40 series and 50 series purely because of the 12VHPWR connector and the lack of Windows 7 support plaguing my mind even though I don't use the latter anyway since 2014.
Ryzen 7000 is good but they never tell you it can run hot as fuck under load even with highly rated coolers like the thermalright twin tower coolers. If you want a quiet PC these CPU are not the way to go.
Microcenter prices are fake, they don't show taxChicago is 12% for example so in practice only a 11% difference to the EU average tax
>>107986559you're thinking about it too hardthey're just trolling, they know microcenter prices are not indicative of real market prices
>>107986573just lower tjmax
>>107985539Does /g/ have a favorite/trusted manufacturer when it comes to boards?
>>107986143if they didn't care about it, anon, they wouldn't require me to give it to them to get the most out of their productevery person like me slows down their progress, since we're denying them free data
>>107986598They give you the option to opt out of certain telemetry, and you're moving the goalpost.You still paid for hardware-accelerated upscaling and frame generation when you buy an RX 9000 or an Intel Battlemage GPU; you're funding that R&D.
>>107986573your own fault for buying a 1st gen ddr5+1st gen new motherboard design.The common-sense choice was always to wait for 9000 series and get an X3d one.
>>107986613looks like the cheap-ram price era of gpus are now over.Waitcucks btfo yet again. You're literally a year too late champ.
>>107986577>Microcenter prices are fake, they don't show taxAmazon prices don't either, I thought that was the default for burgers.
>>107986573eco modeslower fan ramp speed>>107986634but if you didn't already buy ram you're screwed now
>>107986672Yeah that is the default, but for the first time ever I paid literally no tax on the 5080 i ordered directly from MSI last yr. They forgot to calculate it I guess. Considering how unstable their website was at 5000 launch and how i had to run through 3 different payment methods to get something to go through, it's safe to say their storefront was very primitive.It's up to me to report the sales tax when tax season comes. For legal reasons, I'm obligated to say that I will!!! Don't worry IRS!!!!
>>107986658nigga I literally got fucked by destiny.>weird website I never saw but has been around since the 90s>offers a cheap x3d and a 3060 12g>Don't know if I should trust this site>order the x3d first and wait>they took too long to put the tracker but the PS gave it to me in a day>as soon as I received the cpu the gpu jumped $300I got RAPED.
RTX 50 series was shitty value, the 5070 and 5070 Ti LITERALLY CANNOT BEAT A 4080 OR 4080 SUPER LOL. Everyone forgot that. And they all have the housefire connector anyway.
>>107986749>caring about valuepoors everywhere...
>>107986768They care about value, and yet refuse to be content with an iGPU or buying used.Very strange.
>>107986768so where are your two 5090s?
Is this good enough paste for my CPU or should I put a tiny bit more?
>>107986768Why can't the new product beat the old product at the same price? Why am I not allowed to buy new from previous gen anymore?
>>107985134The eternal issue with Valve is that they're not exactly the best at... anything.>>107986810Real answer: Trowel it so there's an even spread across the face of the CPU. The old "dab and smoosh" method was always asinine.
>>107986804>5090that's a card for poorsi use 96gb rtx 6000
>>107986810If it's the size of a pea it's a good enough
>>107986830so you got acually two of those?
>>107986810You wanna do a cross so you bless your CPU and ward off the devil in the process. Unless you got a Devil GPU, then you're good.
>>107986810
>>107986810make an x and the dots like everyone does nowadays
that's a very viscous paste, it's coolermaster garbage for sure
>>107986810these are the important areas to cover
>>107986837>>107986848>>107986850Went with a X, it's a pretty ugly one cause as >>107986872 says, though it's a paste from Thermalright, I previously bought a paste from Noctua that was the same way
>>107986922thermalright paste is good quality tho, unlike coolermasterif you ever need to remove the cpu cooler remember this: you have to twist the cooler while the cpu is in the socket and then pull up, because with viscous paste if you just pull up the cpu will come out with the cooler, happened to me
>>107984291Fellow gentlemen I've been studying the intricacies of airflow cooling for the last few days and it really helped me to appreciate the nose of that negro I saw in Star Wars the New Slope today. This new knowledge is already changing my life for the best.
Alright point and laugh
>>107986976Look at the size of dem turds.
>>107986954Chat is this real?
>>107986954based Konata anon keeping me sane when I browse these threads
>>107986947Man this scared the shit out of me last week. I was changing coolers and planning to do as you say, but as I unscrewed the springs were strong enough that when I unscrewed one side the whole heat sink sorts popped and I was worried the CPU went with it.
>>107986954you sir just won 420 internets
what's the best 1000w power supply?
>>107987195In the sticky>>PSU>Buying guide:>https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/
>>107986954Do you own a pen tablet or is this img2img
>>107987236it's ia, it's always ia
