Based thread of Zenship

lol i forgot the title

can we extract the different between turbo and base to make a turbo lora for base?

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is this the Chinese Culture you folx keep talking about?

>>107987000
>>Maintain Thread Quality
>https://rentry.org/debo
>https://rentry.org/animanon
why are these in the OP? it's just schizobabble

wait zimage base is released finally? wow

how long to make one image in a 6600

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

>>107987023
it happens, i got intimidated by the options while seeing if i could bake and gave up kek

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>>107987038
5090 takes 30 seconds

Blessed thread of frenship

>>107987034
kill ani

>>107987043
i baked once and another anon beat me to it by exactly 8 seconds, so there was a duplicated thread and i felt bad. will never bake again.

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>>107987027
I wouldn't be surprised if they make a new turbo from this version

where is safetensors file for zimage base? I see only slit files on the site

>>107987058
i like it

>>107987048
so about half an hour on my 6600

>>107987038
>6600
probably half an hour, it's already slow on a 4070

>>107987034
literal human garbage

>>107987034
>>107985366
>>107984742
>>107983447

>>107987034
let me guess, "not ani"

>>107987034
>32 stars

>>107987034
squirm, you were already caught red handed

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to the anon who recommended 200 steps res_2s, i know you were memeing but i tried it anyway, this image took 5 minutes to generate on a 5090

>>107987034
kys schizo

>>107987065
https://huggingface.co/Comfy-Org/z_image/tree/main/split_files/diffusion_models

>>107987034
>trani

>>107987127
that's actually really good though, but it's better to wait until there is a "turbo" lora. i had similar results with XL and 200 steps, but then the PCR lora for XL with 32 steps had almost the same result.

How good is Z-Image-i2L for anime artstyles?

>>107987034
no wonder why comfy didn't want to work with you

So can it generate copyrighted stuff?

>>107987034
go work on your vibe coded wrapper

>>107987099
I can't believe this story you are telling me, it's ~mahcaaab~
>>107987156
>>107987172
It apparently knows Hazbin Hotel

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Base always puts my 1girls into ruined decrepit buildings, maybe they are supposed to be eastern European

can this idiot just kill himself already?

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>ai toolkit needs diffusers and can't take single file
Why is this still a thing in 2016?? JUST TAKE THE FILE

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K Perry

>>107987186
that looks like Bangladesh

>>107987034
lolcow

>>107987197
funnily enough, i'm kind of a metalhead but went to see her live a few months ago just for the memes, and she used AI slop backdrop videos for her whole show, it made it look cheap
also i think i was the only straight dude there no joke

damn those gen times are horrid but at least the results are coherent enough to justify it somewhat

You guys do realize that this isn't the true base model right? It's the SFT one.

>>107987034
kys

>>107987221
yeah but the true base probably has even worse output, and which one of us has the money to do our own SFT?

Arguing in favor of a model that is just blurred mush compared to one so detailed you can see the pigment on her skin is just silly. Plus one of them is edit model on top of what it can already do. Both of them still have to be tuned at the end of the day, and only one is worth tuning and worth tuning, regardless of censorship. Unless you want your model to be stuck looking like a blurry mess not representing reality.

>>107987027
Someone is probably already doing this

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>>107987207
no shame in that, some popstars can put out real cool shows

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I'm not sure what this node does except double the gen time

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they didnt cheap out with the celebs

Thanks for the good times, I really enjoyed them and can now put this chapter behind me.
Even though I was mean to you, I'm glad you're so happy.
I'll be back in two weeks for the finetunes.

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Is there a way to change the default DL directory of hf cli?

>>107987235
Did you just have a stroke anon ?

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>>107987260
windows has environment variables

>>107987257
if you scrape the internet the dataset is bound to have lots of celebs over-represented, you'd have to go out of your way to filter them out like the western models to make it not know them

>>107987240
>>107987257
>>107987270
>same fake celebs like for zit
waiting weeks for that...

>>107987232
That's literally the point, and you don't need millions of images / cash to do SFT.

is ran ok?

>>107987285
Who is Ran? Is that your bull?

>>107987235
Stop trolling them. Z bros suffered for a long time and finally won. Let them enjoy their success.

(Who would have thought that I could say the same thing in /g and /pol at the same time and make sense?)

What's the safe way to update Ostris AI-toolkit? Last time I updated I did a git pull and it completely broke my installation.

>>107987300
just get the easy install

uh oh. melty!

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>>107987272
nice change from using klein

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WOAH MAMA

>Julien

>>107987027
Yes but it has a 100% chance of not being as good as just using Turbo

>>107987034
pedo

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>widowmaker from overwatch according to base

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ACEStep 1.5 is almost here

https://ace-step.github.io/ace-step-v1.5.github.io/

No idea why some of the samples are so bad and sound slopped, especially those first ones, I guess Chinese devs aren't really good at judging output quality. I'm still hopeful thanks to their playground samples that we'll get kino when the model is out.

>>107987272
How do they wind up with NLP captions that state the name of the person properly and reliably, though?

what's with the meltdown today?

>>107987365
am I a KOL? who do I see to get an assessment for KOL status?

>>107987370
unpaid indian hollywood gooners

>>107987371
just ignore the falseflag. hes trying to confuse newfags still by making it seem like someone is genuinely sperging out at the "why are these links in OP" ritual post

>>107987315
>>107987330
>>107987331
1pass or you upscaled?

>>107987371
the "proof" ani is the schizo spammer was a load of shit so schizo has to slide the thread with ani hate so people forget

>>107987365
the quality sounds fine but that first "heavy metal" sample sounds like pop rock

>>107987401
Cate Blanchett one is 1pass

>>107987380
Key opinion leader. Business lingo.

>>107987401
>>107987414
2pass others

>>107987371
this is the same shit every day. troonjak complains about the rentries (as ani) then calls it out with no proof as usual

>>107987417
I thought the dude was a developer, he's a businessman?

>diverse outputs but body horror

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>>107987349
>a tattoo of Hatsune Miku portrait in "fumo" style
>panties slightly eaten by the butt
These failed. The rest of the prompt is genned correctly, if we forgive it for not knowing how to do a tattoo when the image is 2d manga.

>>107987397
I like how the other two replies to that post just reinforce your post kek ani tries really hard to muddy the waters

>>107987423
yeah I'm sure a random anon spends every second of the day shitting on a no-name developer. that totally makes sense

>>107987448
Does it even know fumo in general?

tl;dr, germs and chinkoids are based?

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>>107987193

>>107987469
A good question, for another time.

>>107987471
yeah both models are great in their own ways and we'll be eating good in the future.

>>107987365
The important thing is if it works well with finetuning, I wonder what guys like:

https://www.youtube.com/@Retrosync/videos

https://www.youtube.com/@STILLINTHENIGHT-m9s

use, it doesn't sound like Suno so I assumed they were finetuning something

>>107987471
they are frens for sure

>>107987450
welcome newfriend

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almost knows saorse

>>107987444
thats great

>>107987471
Klein will prolly end up better for art shit and general sfw, but having body horrors both on base and distill is kinda eh. Flux gonna flux.

HOLY FUCK ZIB LOOKS LIKE SHIT WE LOSTED

>>107987498
heun simple cfg4 15 steps

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for science, 500 steps res_2s beta
generation time 15 minutes per image on a 5090
not trying this again.

OH NONONONON LOCAL BROSS THIS IS BAD VERY BAD!

>>107987496
Klein editing is still good, and will keep it around at least until Z-Image Edit is out

But for t2i, Klein is already dead, same for large scale finetunes

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i dont see res_2s

>>107987504
can't do oppai loli futa scat so it sucks

>>107987524
install res4lyf nodes

>>107987471
more than SAI mutts for sure

>>107987524
search for res4lyf in nodes in manager and get that. they are external samplers

CAN YOU HEAR THAT? IT’S THE SOUND OF NEW COMFY CLOUD USERS , SO ASHAMED AND DISAPPOINTED WITH LOCAL MODELS!

ANI WONNED
SCHIZOS WONNED
CATJACK WONNED
BOT WONNED
COMFY CLOUD WONNED

/LDG/ LOSTED
LOCAL LOSTED

all trani's fault btw

>>107987154
oh shiiiii

>>107987529
>>107987533
thank you kindly sars

>>107987521
It's not though, we're literally getting both Klein Chroma and Z Chroma already. Z Base hardly has perfect anatomy also.

are we dealing with one or multiple schizos atm?

>>107987521
Wrong. All I will say is compare these two outputs.

>>107977133
and
>>107987490

Then look at a real photograph of a woman

https://www.pexels.com/photo/portrait-of-woman-19248753/

You will see what problems exist with Z and why it will never replace Klein. I will give you a hint, Z simply isn't realistic, it is lacking in detail, and you can especially see that when you zoom in. This is a technical problem that can't be fixed with finetunes due to Flux.2 having a better VAE.

>>107987557
yeah

>>107987557
one having a mental breakdown

>>107987471
give it some time (was the same when sdxl released) but we are eating very good anon

>>107987557
pretty sure its 1 or 2 people at most lol, there are also people who see the shit happening and jump in for lulz

>>107987565
z-base release triggered some monkey paw shit, made the schizo go completely insane

>>107987561
Have to disagree with that one

schizo based his whole personality on z-image-base never being released and is now facing existential crisis

>>107987557
proof?

>>107987565
his "proof" was a nothingburger as usual and he just snapped

>>107987553
>we're literally getting both Klein Chroma and Z Chroma already
lodestones has said both of these are just experiments which can (and most likely will) end at the drop of a hat. I'm 200% certain that Z-Image Base is what he will make the next long-term Chroma finetune on, likely paired with the Flux2 VAE.

>>107987575
He's priced out and lonely. This retardation points to the OG schizo.

>>107987561
This doesn't just apply to closeups. The same apply to body shots, holding objects etc... You can see so much texture on her skin, individual hair fibers etc... This would allow not just for real photographic LoRAs, but actual photoreal porn for the first time from an image model. Previously only NBP had any semblance to real photographs, and now Klein surpasses it. A hypothetical Z edit would not be as good as Klein.

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Gen times are crazy but I really like the base so far otherwise

>>107987592
ZiB has flux1 vae tho.

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>>107987510

>>107987603
rotate 180 degrees. enhance.

>>107987603
>thread schizo watching others having fun and enjoying life

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>>107987603
I love watchers.

>>107987601
And yet it is better than Klein, both in anatomy and overall realism.

In other words, the VAE is not the issue.

Too much body horror. Base seems censored.

>>107987561
>I like this shitty looking style and klein can only do this shitty looking style, so klein is better
..yeah...no...

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Cate is based

four months of hype for this?? holly sloppa

Has anyone tried their z base lora yet? 2500/3000 here on a 3090.

>>107987592
vae meme again, this shit is as stupid as the morons that go on about abliterated TE lmao

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>>107987618

Base is out?
really?

catjak needs to stop and get help. it's been years of this psychosis. you just need to accept there are people more talented than you

>muh boogeyman

>>107987636
Are you training on ai toolkit? Is it possible to train locally? Never trained anything in my life but I want to give it a try.

>Julien

>>107987645
yeah it is a new age of trying out settings, gennings, epic gen times, and schizo meltdowns

do wez got onetrainer support for base yet

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>>107987641
if we here why Z Image Turbo already exist, I am confus

>>107987664
euler 20 steps wins again

IS THIS THE CHINESE CULTURE??

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>>107987665
i literally just did this and it runs
no idea about the results yet lul

>>107987660
>Are you training on ai toolkit?
yes

>Is it possible to train locally?
of course

>Never trained anything in my life but I want to give it a try.
grab 100~200 images of something you want, describe them(you can use ai to automatically describe them too) and then use https://github.com/ostris/ai-toolkit to make it. im using the default template for z-image and so far the samples are looking very promising.

i just need to see how well it performs in z-image-turbo.

Where were you when troongy labs oversold and underdelivered?

>>107987616
>the VAE is not the issue.

If you're okay with your outputs looking like mush/slop. Who cares that it's better at anatomy? It can't not be more realistic. See >>107987561
What good is something that looks further from ground truth? Plus Klein is actually easier to work with because it's 4B and it has Edit capabilities, the bulk of what BFL worked on probably and why it still shits on Base even with all the perceived "anatomy improvements" to it. If both models are tuned with large 5M uncensored datasets, only one of them comes out on top, and that is clearly Klein due to its technical superiority, that is what you anons need to get thru your thick skull.

>>107987665
It *seems* to be working without any changes if you use BF16, int8 seems like it needs some fixing

>>107987683
AMBATUTRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIN

>>107987690
>f you're okay with your outputs looking like mush/slop.
But it doesn't, Z-Image Turbo is better quality than Klein, it's not slopped, AND it does correct anatomy.

>>107987689
that is every AI company

>>107987690
And here's something that all AI researchers can agree on. A minor hand issue is generally preferred over the entire image being low quality and looking slopped. One can be fixed, the other outputs should be discarded. Now imagine if they based their research solely on whether it outputs accurate anatomy. Total disaster.

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>>107987504
cfg 4 seems high

>>107987700
turbo is boring as fuck every gen looks the exact same, professional studio quality photo-shoot in same poses same faces same shit the whole model is "good" because it can generate like six images in total with zero variety

man I didnt think it would happen ever, and now its really here.
feels good man.

You won't see real discovery in this arch until non realistic or 3D focused model drops. The real seekers have no interest in realistic shit. I have zero interest in realistic shit so I will stay on standby.

>>107987730
ace is out??

https://rentry.org/ranfaggot

>>107987732
I mean to say art and anime focused model drops. I will repeat realistic or 3D slop has zero interest to us.

how come /adt/ is immune to the retarded schizo trolling?

imagine coping about your 15 min 500 step "for science" genes that looks like a 3d SDXL slop.

>>107987743
Because the two schizos that torment this thread hate that they lost every step of the way. This isn't the dev schizo this is the horned schizo who is of lower IQ and on disability.

>>107987700
If we had the Edit model, you'd see how wrong you are. But we don't have the Edit model, because they know it sucks, hence we can't compare how both models edit a real photograph. However, it's quite obvious to see by looking ahead at their paper and the outputs base is producing.

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>>107987743
because nobody posts there. they have 5 day long threads.

>>107987743
Because the schizos are from there genius!

>>107987772
>the bart, the

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so much sovl...
it's over the chinks won

>>107987760
and that's bad because....?

But can it put teenage versions of my favorite celebs in compromising positions tho? The second part is very important.

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>>107987751
n*gbo? I thought he was kill

So is base good or what?

OHHH THE GREAT LOCAL DREAM IS DEAD,

>>107987743
the house is empty

>>107987788
we dont know

The schizo was right about one thing: we lost.

>>107987751
>dev schizo
if he isn't participating in schizoposting, is he a schizo at all?

>horned schizo who is of lower IQ and on disability
who?

and I'm guessing ranschizo is the second schizo you are referring to but he never hides it and it's obvious

Z Base doesn't seem to know Hitler

>>107987787
It's been one day of him fucking off because his thread is dead. He has historically done retarded shit like this whenever something new happens to spread FUD. Remember when he was spamming sora gens until that was shot?
He does the same low IQ schizo spam and is just having a melty because he thinks he gets a pass because of the other retard shitting his pants. The biggest tell is that his brand of griefing is dumber and is just him throwing shit at a wall hoping it sticks.

See you in two weeks for the finetunes that will somehow make it worse.

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my cake is almost done baking..too bad I can't post the results because i'd get banned

>>107987821

Catbox example gens.

quantized z-image when

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my bad, it does know Hitler after all

hopium tanks? empty.

>>107987835
kill ani

>>107987835
yeah kill that schizo

>>107987835
the hitler gens are good but I just hate the drama shitting you insert into them. highly cringe

>wait for base, turbo is just a taste!

>>107987835
based

what upscale settings are you guys using.
i'd trial and error but this shit's really slow

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>>107987858
sorry

>Res_2s for Base? More like Rest in Peace,

>>107987835
this guy knows ani is the real schizo

>>107987772
can you share wf? idk how to do 2 pass

Sounds like promptlets are getting filtered again?

>>107987835
>>107987871
based

>>107987873
We have two and they can be found in OP. Right now the first one is using the second one as a shield to spread FUD

THE HYPE TRAIN HAS CRASHED INTO THE WALL OF REALITY CHOO CHOO MOTHERFUCKERS.

>>107987870
Upscaling without cnets is pointless because you can only up the denoise so much without them. But this is a controversial take.

>>107987876
it's 1pass, euler beta, cfg 3, 46 steps, nothing special

>>107987772
>>107987835
>>107987871
fuck ani!

dang bro is really losing his mind over the release of base keke

>>107987904
He wants everyone to be as sad as he is in his empty thread.

base is really fun, why the meltdown over it

>>107987894
>1pass
what does that mean?

>>107987904
BFL died again so he will have to train his own loras from now on to keep using it lol

>>107987900
>>>107987772
>>>107987835
>>>107987871
gas ani!

>>107987909
He hates that he can't play with the new tools and nobody cares to see his slop, his off topic troon friend PW also stopped posting so he's extra lonely at night.

>500 step zim character lora already has better likeness than 6000 steps f2k 9b
lmao rekt
i knew klein was just a piece of shit for training

go work on your vibe coded UI wrapper trani!

>>107987826
wow.. that is pretty fuckin based i'd say

So why the hype other than better starting point for tuning, all I see is flux tier celeb 1girls lmfao

Finetrooners eating good today

>>107987878
Nothing to do with prompt. Regenerating an Z-turbo image using the same seed, settings, and workflow generates body horror.

>>107987912
it means they didn't run it through another sampler, aka, they gen'd the base image and that's it. 1 pass

>>107987871
we had enough troonjak and dweebo shitting for one lifetime dude

We were happier when we were dreaming about base.

>>107987034
i love you please fuck my wife please please please fuck my wife please

>>107987924
Tfw (invader) Zim

>>107987000
Yeah base is out time to train my imoutotv jappies on it.

>>107987925
aubrey plaza mouth

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>Tongyi-MAI
>Posted a chart stating Base will only be medium quality while Turbo is high quality
>high diversity, meant for finetuning/training
>retard: duhhh y is base so bad???

So what's the plan now, Z bros?

>>107987949
we were happier when troonjak and debo were bullied out tof the thread

>>107987963
we please Xi, that's what

>>107987963
make loras for all my highschool crushes and goon out

>>107987959
fun fact: nobody here does that, we where dreaming about 2girls

>>107987963
we train (also known as trooning)

>>107987944
thanks

Z image Base is officially so disappointing it triggered a mental health crisis in real time.

I knew z base would destroy the local community

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>>107987870
I made a subgraph.

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>>107988003
hihi!!1

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I'm yet to see a z-image base image that looks better than qwen 2512.

reminder not to engage with the klein shill

>>107988013
zit eyes

>>107987982
you may as well be spamming with dweebo and troonjak

>250 / 51 /
This never happened with ZiT. I remember that we reached the image limit before posts.

>>107988026
1. base sucks
2. most people here don't have the hardware to run base

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WHERE ARE YOU CHINESE CULTURE ANON. DO NOT HIDE LIKE LAST TIME.

>>107988003
why did you hire people to fud tranistudio and how do I get paid to do it?

>>107988012
thanks I will try this

>>107988026
it takes like 10+ times to gen a image with base compared to Turbo

>>107988003
why aren't you fixing the memory issues you stupid bitch? your project is falling apart

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>>107988013
hello

>>107988038
I'll give you one high quality PNG of fennec girl.

>>107988043
>he doesn't know about the PR

alright, how long for the danbooru finetune?

So, this will be a long, cold, modelless winter it seems.

>>107988043
i am thoughverbait

>>107988042
NO SHIT ANON
TURBO IS DISTILLED. IT'S LIKE USING LIGHTX2 FROM WAN.

>>107988003
so when are you making a better UI like you promised? you got 17mil and it's twice as bad as before

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>>107988048
just merge it bwo

>>107987832
i'll try, but don't count on it.

>>107988048
every time you "promise" anything, it all goes to shit. shut your stupid mouth about anything because your word is a fucking curse

>>107988048
>I'll give you one high quality PNG of fennec girl.
where is it?

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>>107988048
there is an ardent dedicated anti comfyui shill in this thread, one of your ex coworkers, pay him no heed.

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>ani camping in /ldg/ all day waiting for comfy to post
>responds immediately
this is what mental illness looks like

>>107988083
he just admitted to hiring anti anistudio fudders. if anything he deserves all the shit

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I really enjoy Z-Base

>>107988085
where?

THEY SPENT MONTHS TRAINING THIS ON "CHINESE CULTURE"

>>107988048
I haven't dared to pull just yet, but did you fix the seeding not working in subgraphs?

>>107988048
>he doesn't know about the PR
This?
https://github.com/Comfy-Org/ComfyUI/pull/12109

>>107988096
who is the guy on the left

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So is this true?

>>107988042
hey, you might be retarded, just wanted to let you know

>>107988114
he made it so memory fills on every model I uses until I OOM. fuck this idiot

>>107988048
hello, i just want to say comfy changed my life and i use it 6+hrs daily

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>>107988119
no, probably the one by rattus and 50~ comments

>>107988122
no

>>107988121
my uncle, I'm the girl

>>107988124
they are just explaining it takes longer to produce a base image compared to turbo, which is why people aren't flooding the thread with images compared to turbo.

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The sovl in this model is great. How long until finetunes ruin it?

>>107988114
just unpack the subgraphs.. its never worth pulling new comfy

>>107988131
man zibase looks good

>>107988131
>4 ears

>wait for base

>>107988048
fix your shit already nigger and fire the fucking jeets already

>>107988150
benchod

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>>107988142
it really does, it's sad seeing this retard screeching about how shit it is for 4 threads
>>107988144
>he doesnt know

>>107988128
I remember you hated it for three years straight because auto was getting updates troonjak. of course you aren't sincere at all when you say shit like this

>>107988144
4 more ears

Localbro's coping hard but the truth hurts we got bamboozled again.

>>107988165
>he doesnt know
qrd? she has 4 dicks too or something?

>>107988174
you lack anime literacy, sorry

>>107988165
your gens are hideous. like every girl has down syndrome

>>107988165
>tail coming from butthole

>>107988184
hot and retarded, just how I like em

>310 / 68 /

>>107988185
you should buy your gf a tail buttplug, it's fun

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>>107987484
There's a few different ones, I'm mostly familiar with Suno and Udio, and the closest I could compare this to is Suno. But there's stuff like Sonauto which sounds a little less fuzzy.

>>107988195
To be fair, if you take out all those lolcow posts that don't reply to anyone and dont get any replies either, it looks a lot better.

>>107988240
its him dude, who do you think is doing all this worthless shit?

>>107987729
No, the second you add a lora you get a lot of diverse output, unless you trained a lora of one image

Stop being retarded

>>107987963
Train and goon

Same plan as yesterday, only better

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