melted base = melted loras
its over

what do we do now that z-image flopped?

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>>107991595
how it flop?

>>107991595
Pony 7

>>107991595
All of Reddit's top 1% commenters say it's perfect. If it sucks, it's your fault, or we don't yet know the secret settings that unlock its full potential.

Just trust the most degenerate guys in the entire community—after all, they are the top 1%.

>zero difference in output between ModelSamplingAuraFlow disabled or set to the default 3
lol

>>107991619
here's a secret: when you bypass the node it also defaults to 3

>training samples and gens are completely different for zimage
wrong sampler/scheduler or what?

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>>107991659
Really?

z-image... absolute yikes! they fumbled that one hard.

>>107991665
yeah, it was mostly similar for zit

>>107991720
dude how do you spend ALL your time doing this? like what causes this mental illness?

1) It's not an Edit model
2) It's slopped
3) It's not NBP tier

Why are anons still hyped for this botched release? Klein is more fun.

>>107991769
Also
>Klein 4B

I sleep

You're using 9B and hoping that gets uncensored, right anon?

9b is good but kekstone is scared shitless of bfl so he won't touch it, and everything depends on him because he is the only finetuner.

zimage base model seems melted no matter what, i dont see how loras will fix this

Zib is even bad at img2img.

how do I get employed by BFL? how's the pay?

>>107991790
I guess we wait until Chinks get to it due to new VAE or better yet just get those VAEs onto their new uncucked models, then Z.2 could really shit on Klein.

I stoped gening on auto1111 more than a year ago because my 1070 could barely cope.
I'm getting a 4070 & 64GB of ram in 2 weeks, what am I in for ?
>mfw auto1111 is dead

>>107991810
you're in for more coping. welcome to the club

>>107991810
>what am I in for ?
raped wallet

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>empty prompt
>4x 2048 res, 25steps, res2,
>540s on a 5090

>>107991822
A friend of mine is selling for 2000€, I figured it was time to change my computer because i7 2700k/16GB DDR3/GTX 1070 started to get kinda old lol

>>107991827
I didn't pay four figures for my setup and it kicks yours' ass from here to next year
you are the emperor of bad timing

>>107991830
i mean, its only gonna get worse for him, prices are gonna shit to death for the next 2 years at least.
thanks altman.

ok can someone summarize zit vs zbase

>>107991830
>>107991835
yeah, I wanted to buy a 5090 last year, had to money and everything, but lacked the will. Then I had to redo the roof of my barn, forgot about computers, and now I'm buying this because FOMO

>>107991810
>Getting anything less than used 3090

Rule 1: You do not comfortably get into this hobby without at least 24GB.

>>107991859
are you shitting me ?
I thought 12GB would allow at least 1024x1024 decent image prompt and short vids ?

I cannot work out how to fix z base's artifacts. I'm using the bf16, 45 steps, cfg 5.5, the gens just don't look very good

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>>107991843
Honestly, not enough time has passed.

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So are you supposed to use "Shift" with Z-Image? I assume no, now that we're using CFG.

The only thing good about base is that it's easy to make loras that have high likeness, but with such a bad model, you can't really make good use of them.

>>107991807
Klein is a fucking joke lmao. Now I see why the klein shills were so scared of comparisons here
https://old.reddit.com/r/StableDiffusion/comments/1qp5fm3/comparing_z_image_base_vs_klein_9b_base_vs_klein/

>>107991897
the template has a shift of 3

>>107991859
16 is fine for image gen

>>107991882
Too high cfg

>>107991882
disable sage attention (remove --use-sage-attention from the launch args)

>>107991899
Do the base loras work with turbo model?

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>>107991897
set shift to 1 fixes anatomy in many cases and the images look better overall IMO

>>107991911
I disable the sage node but didn't remove the arg

>>107991790
>kekstone
I remember seeing a screenshot of him saying that it would be easy to translate the training of the 4B model to the 9B one, like if they were compatible.

>>107991912
You can use base loras on turbo but the effect is minimal or non-existent.

I don’t get it. Z-image takes like four times as long to generate, comes out looking muddy and raw, doesn’t even seem to train LoRAs well and yet people here are acting like it’s the second coming of Christ.

What’s the actual use case over Klein with can actually edit images and works faster and trains well?

>>107991918
that's not what he meant. that's what he would've meant if he wasn't deranged.
what he's planning to do is operate on 4b like he did flux, and expand the 4b's parameter count to 9b and retrain is all from scratch like he did with the first chroma

>>107991922
Klein's loras don't have good likeness.

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>>107991922
It's a foundational model. Anyone who even read the ZiT model card knew its primary purpose isn't genning. I made this post for example before Christmas. >>107632672
Loras don't train well? I just woke up so I don't know, haven't seen people's attempts also. I'll try later. Minthy is currently experimenting with it for the purpose of finetuning it. That's very exciting. No one knows what an anime tune is going to end up looking like.

>>107991922

The entire point of all of this is to have competing models so they clown on and push each other to greater heights. This time Flux needs to play catch-up to compete, but the way this is going overall the frequency of model releases is increasing.
Comparatively speaking big (independent) money has not yet entered the race.
Eventually one of those guys that got hundreds of millions on crypto will start throwing money at these teams and they'll get exponentially better.

But no matter what the quality will keep increasing. And that can only happen if there's competition. That is the engine that drives progress.

>>107991922
>>107991901
Klein sucks

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Tested some bleeding, lul.

"winter forest.
caucasian 50s male in a business suit.
black wolf with a chihuahua standing on the wolfs back.
lamborgini.
velociraptor.
demonic succubus.
erupting volcano in the background.
open fridge full of various food.
spaceship.
alien hiding behind a tree."

Z Image Base gguf when?

>>107991940
I have loras training, we'll see later today

>>107991922
It's shills. First few weeks are always like this. Threads are completely fucked by shills, it's impossible to gather any genuine opinion from this chaos. We'll know the actual consensus in a week or two when the threads get back to normal.

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>>107991901
>badly drawn sonic the hegehog, gotta go fast, crayon doodle by a toddler
crazy how we're in 2026 and yet they still look worse than that 2022 midjourney meme. none of them even get crayon style right. why is local unable to catch up to a 3+ year old model stylistically? it was funny back in 2023 but it's genuinely concerning now.
what is wrong with local??

>>107991598
The lack of replies to this question speaks volumes

>>107991965
Local model bakers prune any artistic style data, last model that had everything intact was SD 1.5.Starting from SDXL they started castrating all the style knowledge from the models and sometimes flooding them with synthetic slop.
You are basically forced to rely on loras. Localfags absolutely love this btw, more lora baking busywork.

>>107991955
You would already know it if you tried out the new model yourself. If it was easy to generate good images with Zib, the threads would be flooded images.

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>>107991905
Interesting.
>>107991913
Yeah, that was my impression as well.

>>107991989
Indeed no klein images here. Damn that model must be fucking awful

>>107991996
I wonder if going even lower like 0.5 or something would be even better but I am spent for now.

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>>107991966
so how did it flop?
is it once again a situation where vramlets and poorfag GPU browns cant run it and are salty about it?

slowly realizing that both models are absolute turds

>>107991979
I love making loras, but the fact that these new models don't undestand classic traditional media fucking sucks. That being said there's also issue with prompting, you have to be more specific with new models, you have to write down that there's paper texture etc if you want to see it since it defaults to digital emulation of the style.

>>107991955
thread's already slowing down significantly, in two days it's gonna be on life support again

>>107992006
>is it once again a situation where vramlets and poorfag GPU browns cant run it and are salty about it?
and promptlets yes the time ol tale

can z base do editing?

>>107992006
no way this is ai

it seems clear that z-image is a complete disaster, a chroma-tier mess of melty details, bad anatomy, and poor lora stability

>>107992004
Both models suck in different ways. People that make it into some fanboy war are dishonest shills.

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>>107992005
This one's 0.5, so I'd say no lol

As a SeedreamGOD, I just sit back and laugh. Thank you Comfy for your hard work on the API Nodes.

>>107992021
when you realize than after model releases at least half of posters here are shills, it all starts making sense.

The fluxjews are now seething in Z Xi chads. Hahahaha your cucked license will never be finetuned.

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>>107992019
why? its clearly AI

>>107991919
so ani was right as always?

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arr rook same

Which webui can use the z-image image2lora model?

>>107992046
asians do be like that

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Chromadogs, its happening!!!!

>>107992031
>Seedream
>API
>not local

Ah, thank you for the reminder. Adding this trash to the filter as this does not belong in a local free open source thread :)

uh oh localmelty!

>>107992071
How is troonstone furfag the ONLY finetuner?

>>107992085
>ani said that the base would certainly be released, would be more censored and would be worse than zit for prompting and that the base loras basically won't work on zit because they changed so much.
where? all i saw was you (totally not ani btw!!) saying "ani said"
either way nothing you say will change the fact that you are a pathetic samefag that has to praise yourself in third person to feel better about yourself LMAO

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>>107992071
based

After playing with Flux 2 Pro I can't go back to burning my GPU on these failbake slop releases. Nothing that gets released has any effort put into it, it's all just a bunch of scraps so corps can LARP as open-source contributors.
Lucky for me I have practically unlimited ComfyCredits to generate at 4k endlessly.

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customary test lora
not bad for a first run, was kinda winging it

>>107992093
do you sit in those threads 24/7 schizo? even with all the meth abuse you'd need at least a little bit of sleep

>>107992092
everyone moved on after years of garbage. sd3, flux refusing to hand over a non-distilled model, the failbake saga that was chroma, the bloated garbage that is qwen and friends. nobody wants to put $200k+ into this anymore when all the models suck. the only reason anyone even started finetuning SDXL was because novelai used their million dollar supercluster to prove it was possible.

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toughie but decent job

>>107992111
sure, call me a schizo, not like i'm the one that made 95 posts praising myself in 3 hours and then got exposed by the mods when my posts were wiped by ip

>>107992093
You can safely ignore him since instead of providing proof he doubled down on the ad hominem. Classic.

>>107992092
>How is troonstone furfag the ONLY finetuner?
*that you know about. Everything isn't announced on public discord

>>107992119
you keep posting that schizo screenshot but that wasn't ani. he only posted a gen here once couple of days ago and that's it. this was most likely you samefagging and trolling. nobody would bother checking this ban timestamp bullshit otherwise. you really need help

>>107992136
Don't bother replying to catjak. Everybody knows he's full of shit

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>plugged Base into an old Flux.1 Dev workflow
Neat!

Unfortunately, none of the old stuff (guidance, multiply sigmas, etc) seemed to affect the output.

>>107992092
Besides furries, who is rich enough to even play in that space?

>>107992136
>>107992155
yeah totally not ani right guys? haha my god do you have no shame coming in here praising yourself some more after you've embarrassed yourself to every regular itt? or do you just like the humiliation?

>>107992085
man, how do you not get tired of this routine? must be low iq

>yanks begin to sleep
>euros begin to awake
>comfy local general goes right back to avatar turd flinging

Kek, like clockwork

did we win?

catjak is an amerimut on welfare

It doesn’t feel like a win. Nothing a base has put out here or on Reddit has convinced me it’s worth even downloading.
I think people here are giving it a pass because zit was genuinely a surprise, but in 3 or 4 days it won’t be mentioned again.

>>107992236
then how do we kill sdxl?

>>107991872
40s for 1.5mp 9b Klein image with 2 input images.
14min for 15sec 0.4mp 3/3 steps wan 2.2 q8 video.

>>107992236
Everything china produces is slop. They are incapable of making a base model because, like everything else they make, it's flimsy and shoddily put together. They can make distilled rigid crap and it's good fun, but they fundamentally don't understand the technology enough to produce a sturdy base model.
People misunderstand china and think they make quality things. They don't. They make cheap alternatives to western products. There are uses for this of course, but building a multi-thousand dollar finetune on top of them isn't one.

Kill ani

>>107992258
Racist

>>107992236
>base bad
>have you tried it?
>no

>>107991922
If Klein is so good why is it not in the OP?

>>107992236
What a strange mentality to have. Watching other people do things and cry about it instead testing things yourself. If I had to guess you don't have hardware to run it and are bitter about that.

>>107992274
i forgot

>>107992274
Saar delete this

kill ran

>>107992276
I have more than the hardware to run it.

is there any sense in training klein loras with control images? if you're teaching it a style, garment or character then it should work equally fine in either mode shouldn't it?

Bros why is klein not getting any loras? It's still all Zit even though it flopped, not fair bros...

>>107992270
Not everybody has the time or interest to tinker with every single shit model that is released. There's literally zero indication to suggest that z base is worth bothering with. No cool gens, no impressive lora training results, nothing. Unless somebody proves otherwise, it's a flop and the only cope left are potential finetunes.

>>107992297
i already have 3 loras that work very well

>>107992258
Truth nuke.

does participating in AI generals make you deranged, or do they merely attract the mentally ill in the first place. Seriously, AI generals are the worst generals on 4chan by a long shot, what causes this

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What's the meta for regular image gen these days? Trained a Flux lora on winamp skins but realized that not only does one already exist, I have a feeling other base models could do better.

>>107992309
I know tribalism ruins everything!
Z >>>> Klein

>>107992317
yeah

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>>107992006
Eurasian whore
>>107992043
Eurasian whore drinks kpop blood
>>107992117
Eurasian whore eats one too many chromosomes

>>107992309
nah they're all pretty fucking bad and batshit insane this really isn't so special

How's the likeness on celeb Z-loras? Do they preserve it well? How does it compare to klein?

>>107992340
zit is better

>>107992317
Flux2 klein & ZImage are fine if you want to train it again.

so 5 more years of sdxl is that right?

>>107992359
go nuts

>>107992359
if you're an anime prompter (translation: if you have standards)
realismkeks will gladly slop up the latest chroma meltybake. ignorance is bliss i guess

does Z already have it's category on civitai or do they fall under ZIT so far

>>107992366
check it yourself retard

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I really like Z Base so far, ZIT didn't know Hitler as well

>>107992294
I was just trolling cause the bread is shit anyway but checking civit, seriously wtf is up the klein lora situation? Is it just hard to train wtf?, there is like nothing there but a bunch of sliders and penises.

>>107992394
Edit models get nuked

>>107992309
This is all happening because anons did't tell avatartranny retards to fuck off when they should have

>>107992394
every klein lora is implicitly an edit lora, it's just a capability of the model you can't avoid
is that the logic being employed?

>>107992364
If you're an anime prompter and have standards, you will use NAI.

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my temu wife

>>107992437
post your own gens nigga

>>107992359
no way. the newer model types are very much superior in so many ways. but believe what you want.

>>107992429
QRD? Please fill us in, I think the thread needs to know about all the quality options available

>>107992298
Do you train all blocks? What do you use as transformer data type?

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>>107992429
>>107992458
you dropped this

>>107992083
>local free open source
Refreshing Hugging Face every five minutes praying for a model that isn't total dogshit and camping Discord 24/7 screencapping Lodestone updates isn't "freedom," retard.

>>107992454
retard its not about capabilities, its about finetunes and gooning

>>107992458
>>107992429
inb4 fillyfucker suddenly appears and calls out "shilling"

>>107992236
>zit was genuinely a surprise, but in 3 or 4 days it won’t be mentioned again
This. The only real thing was ZiT.
/ldg/ was a joke before ZiT and still is now.
Local models that aren't SDXL are a fucking joke and a waste of time and energy to even get running.

>>107992394
dunno about other people but I had some 4b training issues on what for other models would be pretty good data.

the characters and objects and concepts i had did not train that well. and if they did, text or hands or other things degraded more than I'd expect from loras on other models instead

maybe it's my settings or training data instead. or it's just the model or current training code on the trainer i tried

>>107992418
There's not even any character loras there either? even cartoon or anime, like literally nothing lol. Even Qwen has those.
>>107992428
Did you mean to reply to the other guy? Yeah I find that weird there does seem to be 2 or 3 sex loras that are up and even QIE has a ton of questionable edit loras.
Wasn't really interested in klein but I gotta try train this, something seems fishy

>>107992486
Aw that's nice sweety

>>107992276
Your general is dead, faggot. The only reason I'm still here is to laugh at you local clowns beta testing DOA models.

>>107992516
He already did, lol. Can't believe he's been doing the same bit for like 4 years. Just two more years, I'm sure NovelAI will go bankrupt and it'll totally be thanks to him. Imagine how bad your life has to be to choose to dedicate your life to doing this instead of anything else.

I tried some base loras from civitai on ZIT and they work well and carry over the concept

I thought at least z base can beat nano banana pro on realism

>he doubted saas
there is a reason they get paid more

>>107992568
what do I have to prompt for saas model to give me tiddies

Why haven't we seen 50 images of base confirming it can generate hatsune miku and ryan gosling yet?

>>107992527
Smut loras for klein 9b work really well, I just haven't uploaded them on Civitai because I don't see any reason to do so.

>>107992548
This hobby is far from dead. This general only indicates the level of moderation on this website.

>>107992527
Try to look on civitarchive for the nuked stuff. Civit deletes so much shit.

So now that Z base is DOA, /ldg/ returns back to its sad little corner? Your models are complete dogshit, and your furry overlord has money but clearly not enough, or not enough brain cells to make a finetune that isn't slop.

this is the part where we cope over pixart

are the saas shills just ironic or unironic and real

>>107992587
>This hobby is far from dead
Yes, it's completely dead and you know it.
Z slop sent you back to square one.

Friendly reminder: it's been 24 hours since Z base released and there are 0 loras and 0 finetunes in civit.

Also, friendly reminder: When ZiT released in november, there were 100+ loras flooding in within the first 24 hours. But please, keep telling me how Z base is built for training and how all you finetuner LARPers are deliver any day now.

Sounds like a failed artist to me, which makes me very happy.

There comes a point in your prompt engineering career where you start to tackle more complex prompts and slowly begin to realize that the available open-weight models are just inadequate for such tasks. Luckily ComfyUI's API Nodes make it easy to just drag-and-drop powerful API models into your workflow without any hassle. Just load up on credits and you're good to go.

>>107992614
Just ignore them, they do this every major release where anons are having fun. Notice how the avatar faggotry stopped as soon as saas ape pee eye nogs started to appear? It's all the same group.

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>>107991965
google mogs hard
can someone test the prompt on chroma?

>>107992633
>it's been 24 hours since Z base released and there are 0 finetunes
you are a retard

>>107992643
that's pretty bad because it's a literal 1:1 copy of sanic, didn't even try to put an original spin on it just copied an existing "bad sonic art" meme

>>107992642
fun?

>>107992633
Z base doesn't have it's own category yet, here's a Z lora
https://civitai.com/models/2182021/z-wedgie-v2-is-slider-trained-on-z-image-base

works very well btw

>nooooo stop having fun reeeee

>>107992633
>Yes, it's completely dead and you know it.
How is it dead if I get paid to do it? I could work for 12h per day and it's still not enough.

>0 loras and 0 finetunes in civit.
There is no automatic "upload to civitai" mechanism.

Why are you so upset over something you clearly know nothing about

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>>107992527
>There's not even any character loras there either? even cartoon or anime
tried a few of these. none felt good enough to publish. among the fewer than expected that mostly learned the characters in some detail, they ruined one or multiple base model capabilities. now all your characters have extra anatomy, now your backgrounds are ass.

z-image seems much easier again from ongoing trainings

>>107992660
On a bun

>>107992633
Already baked two myself :)

>>107992674
Interesting, I'll still try it myself and see what I get.

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>>107992651
well fuck, you're right. I only realized it after your post. funny that they can afford to commit shitty memes to memory just like that
I bet it doesnt know this one though

>>107992674
I'm a retard but isn't it natural that edit models are harder to train, they have more complex and have more capabilities after all so there's more that can go wrong right. Or is this some safety sabotage?

>>107992755
Klein 4b is so far gone from being usable it’s not even worth considering. The original models these localscraps were distilled from are like 50b. They put no effort into making them good, they only released them so they can say they support local

>>107992755
That's what I am thinking how does finetuning one of these work? do you need to double the dataset with edit related stuff

>Z-Image "base" is okay but not phenomenal
>slightly worse than Turbo at most things
>truly only useful as a finetoooner's model
>except it's too expensive to do a large-scale finetune on it
>Klein 9b has a cucked license and the base is no better than Z
>Klein 4b is garbage quality
>even Klein 4b would be ~3x as expensive as SDXL to train
>literally every single attempt by someone to do a large finetune of a post-SDXL model has been a flop
it's over

You posted that already

>>107992784
He is right desu

>>107992755
>isn't it natural that edit models are harder to train
I haven't trained one, but I assume you need an A/B set to make it work fully as intended.

>>107992782
Booooo get new material >>107991041

>>107992725
>man face
>no tits
>fat

>>107992725
is this with ZBase?

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>>107992643
Is Nano Banana just a guy using Photoshop?

>>107992568
>>107992600
>>107992633
>>107992782
I assume this means tranustudio will be transitioning into a fully SAAS wrapper

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z-image base cant learn nipples either

Why is everyone acting like z image will get a weeb finetune? I mean, iirc, in 2 years, we did not get a single model bigger than 2B finetuned with danbooru and non-pruned artist tag, did we? Why would anyone think this time someone will do it for a 6B model then?

>>107992849
Wasn't confirmed already both alibaba and qwen are working on a anime tune?

>>107992854
illustrious ppl are working on one too

>>107992854 (me)
I meant to say tongiy not alibaba lol, me sleepy..

Is anus here? I have a question.

>>107992843
ani would never implement any api or saas shit. never. this was actually one of ani's main gripes with comfy. cumfart easily betrayed local for some quick cash

Why is it always just a realism or anime finetune anyway? Why is no one interested in any other style. Personally I think someone should make a calarts finetune to make all the twitter artist troons have a collective meltie

>>107992845
those are pepperonis benchod

>>107992854
>>107992849
And both will be the same underbaked garbage, censored to hell like all their realistic models.
The university funded project of Noob was a one time miracle. Lightning doesn't strike twice.

>>107992898
make your own model chud

>>107992892
then why has he been shitting up the thread with FUD (about models his dogshit wrapper can't run)?

>>107992709
absolutely, try it.

>>107992755
the other edit models like F2.D, QIE, Wan don't actually seem to require it, but perhaps this one does require it a lot more for now.

>>107992898
people who enjoy things generally do these because they like them and not to spite others

>>107992898
>Why is it always just a realism or anime finetune anyway?
Like it or not, those are the two styles that make up the current zeitgeist.

>>107992904
Give me $200k first

>>107992898
>anime finetune
Is anime finetune in the room with us?

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what are some good ZIB negatives?

>>107992916
色调艳丽,过曝,静态,细节模糊不清,字幕,风格,作品,画作,画面,静止,整体发灰,最差质量,低质量,JPEG压缩残留,丑陋的,残缺的,多余的手指,画得不好的手部,画得不好的脸部,畸形的,毁容的,形态畸形的肢体,手指融合,静止不动的画面,杂乱的背景,三条腿,背景人很多,倒着走,

>>107992909
>two styles that make up the current zeitgeist.
Where's your proof that anime is the zeitgeist, anitroon faggot? All I see are realistic finetunes everywhere. Living in your own bubble much?

>>107992905
he hasn't, i think ani is pretty enthusiastic about z-image despite it being censored. weebs need a new anime model to be finally free from sdxl

>>107992892
ani would also never samefag
definitely not anixisters

To whoever maintains /ldg/ Wan 2.2 Install and Optimization Guide wan22ldgguide, on a 50-series on latest comfy I had to redirect to the ComfyUI-Frame-Interpolation/requirements-no-cupy.txt reqs variant for that custom node, and manually pip install the cupy-cuda12x package (as i'm on 12.8) to the relevant portable python rather than have cupy-wheel search for a system cuda. I think this issue would repeat for others at the moment, either way it's at the very least worth a mention in the possible errors section. Cheers

Shut the fuck up about your favorite schizo, I don't fucking care

>>107992854
This was never stated by anyone at tongyi, and the one spokesperson they have said he knew nothing about it.

>>107992933
>Where's your proof that anime is the zeitgeist
Okay, kindly point me to the other style finetunes anywhere close to the volume of being either realistic or anime. I'm not defending the fact. Simply pointing it out.

>>107992944
stop talking in third person, you absolute bottom-feeding scum

>>107992944
damn ani's rank 1 whiteknight always knows what ani is thinking, totally not ani btw

>>107992957
i am not ani you obsessed retarded schizo

>>107992916
Sloop
who could've predicted ZiB would end up looking this? oh wait, everyone with a brain who didn't fall for the hype train.

>>107992953
source for the spokesperson? Quite a few people including comfyanon said tongiy is doing something like that.

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>>107992970
its chroma you bozo lel

>>107992969
this is why no one here takes you seriously, you absolute bitch

>>107992971
great birbs

>>107992980
>no visible squares
nta but impressive, which chroma?

>>107993006
squares are only in radiance.

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german cucks globohomos, not my model

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Have you tried your ZiB loras in ZiT? I had to pump up the strength to 1.5+ for it to show up. Is this something to do with the lora linear alpha? Should I retrain higher?

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>>107993006
fp8-final

>>107993068
>the sdxltard cries in pain as he strikes you

>>107993072
I think the issue might be that this Z "base" is different than they used to make ZTurbo, if I understood it correctly. I think they trained it a bit more before release.

>>107993098
Yes, but I remember that ZiT loras trained on higher alpha were so strong that it deepfried the image so maybe it isthe correct training if you want to use it with "base trainer - turbo inference"

>>107993112
Now we need a title logo in papyrus font

Since forge neo supports Flux 2 Klein, there’s less reason to use Comfy, it seems

>>107992815
yes

>>107993107
>the oven in detergent commercials

is there any benefit of using base over turbo?

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>>107993120
finally it got the roman numeral for 2026 right

>>107992845
Because they launched a pozzed version, remember Omni Base? They launched a version that is trained upon it, pozzed upon it.

>>107993135
loras come out better, and it knows alot more things, but you have to play around with settings and negatives, and gen times are massive. If you get everything you need from ZiT it's more convenient and enough.

>>107991965
>what is wrong with local??
All models are benchmaxxing/aesthethicmaxxing, midjourney can afford to have all sorts of internal mechanisms that allows them to generate aesthetically broad images, we don't, we only get a single model (which tend to be already heavily tuned, making them harder to train) and the singular thing we've been able to do to modify it was to make loras, which are limited in scope.

>>107993088
So chroma 1 hd

>>107993120
Could this be considered a call to violence? How legal is that

>>107993153
use base or 2k. hd nukes all fine detail

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>>107993112
base gives much better ryan gosling face adherence
this could be the killer app

>>107993170
base is also much better at Hitlers. Gosling and Hitlerbros eating good

will we have z chroma

>>107993120
>>107993136
amen

>>107993179
yes and it'll triple the gen times of Z Base

so where is that music model????

>>107993199
>What? You don't want to wait 15 minutes for a 1MP image? I can't stand these schizos!

>>107993203
Currently only available to influecesaars (not even joking). Should be out in 1 or 2 days according to the latest news.

Does onetrainer support Z Base yet, or do you just use the ZIT preset?

>>107993157
To be a call for violence you'd have to consider Ani a human being...

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>>107993228
look at what turbo did to my boy

>>107992971
>https://www.reddit.com/r/birding/comments/1qovl51/finally/
hmmmmmmm

>>107993170
So the meta really is training on base and genning on turbo?

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>>107993178
>base is also much better at Hitlers.
here'S proof btw

>>107993179
I can imagine lodestone will try. Most likely it trains furries well too.

>>107993244
strange to look at

>>107993244
Ryan Hemsworth.

>>107993266
preach it

Lodestone like any furry shows Peter Pan syndrome, he has an inability to commit. He struggles to focus on a single strong model project, which leads to failure.

>>107993245
Quick, someone with a leddit account send them a screenshot, kek

>>107993317
where does this guy get all the money from, is it all donations or is he some richfag

>>107993328
NTA, but I believe he was somewhat rich, but he's switched to donations. To that end he seems beholden to the schizo demands of his donators.

>floyd spammer is also one of the ani/ran/debo/whatever schizo gang that spend all day yapping at each other
lol

>>107993346
I think floyd spammer is genuinely a little on the spectrum but otherwise harmless.

>>107993317
He pretty almost always reached nsfw furry / general nsfw. Good models that are actual top contenders for best local nsfw and some realism/artsy/other categories. On a small budget.

>>107993179
you vill enjoy ze chroma and you vill be hapee

>>107993317
Just wished he focused on getting rid of body horror mainly. Radiance x32 and Kaleidoscope are getting hourly updates, so, guess that's something

https://huggingface.co/DiffSynth-Studio/Z-Image-i2L

>>107993396
doesn't look like it works very well, even in the cherry picked examples

>>107993391
>Radiance x32 and Kaleidoscope are getting hourly updates, so, guess that's something
>hourly updates
Hourly updates is exactly the problem, this is not a good sign, good model makers take their time.

>Z-Image is a 6B
wat? I thought it would be the same as klein 9b

>>107993391
i'm not even sure what you think he didn't do.

>>107993474
AIIIEEE ADVERTISERS-SAMA

>>107993228
>>107993244
Interesting that he was semi-lost in the distillation.

>>107993396
I'm curious to see results with this

>train celebrity lora on z-image
>comes out perfectly
>train celebrity lora on klein
>can barely tell who it is

>>107993465
Those are just automated dumps into the repo. Chill niggas.

>>107993333
>To that end he seems beholden to the schizo demands of his donators.
I wish there was some oldschool vagina schizos then. Worst case we'll end up with again with a model that can do a donkey show but not a normal woman.

migrate
>>107993481
>>107993481
>>107993481

>>107993470
If only I had discord, eh