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Anyone using NetBSD? Please tell me all about it.
>>107998863OpenBSD and FreeBSD made me an Big Black Juicy Cock addictI love Touhou <3 really helped with my sexuality.
>>107998882things that I like>in-kernel audio system>pkgsrc and pkgin>NVMM, NetBSD's native hypervisor>NPF, NetBSD's packet filter>journaling FFS with WAPBL>PaX features>runs on Wii
>>107998863Just bought pic related to play around the BSDs, how usable is FreeBSD as a desktop? I know NVIDIA has GPU drivers for it.
Bros...why are we so dead?
>>108000275Because generals are cancer and you keep trying to make this a thing on a board that died over a decade ago.
I saw this on Facebook and got reminded of the FreeBSD logo.
>>107999941After a successful installation, it's as usable as Arch Linux; you just need to install X.org, the DRM modules with pkg(8) and configure the system to load your GPU module at startup. pkg(8) will tell you how to do that. cat(1) /dev/sndstat; FreeBSD probably didn't find the correct audio device.I don't recommend using it on desktops, as it demands a lot of attention for little to no benefit. Packages like LibreOffice sometimes disappear from the repositories, and many features advertised as functional simply don't work. It makes a good server though.>>108000409I see it.
>>108000275Not a lot of BSD users here.
>>107998863cuck license
>>108000648Nice theme, how did you make Firefox look li->FreeBSD 6.2>latest news: 2007-02-27oh.
>>107999941>how usable is FreeBSD as a desktopGhostBSD is pretty comfy. I like the model of packages for generic shit and ports for custom patches, beats AUR in my opinion. Linux compatibility greatly struggles with GUI apps from what I could see so far, I wonder if a Linux jail will fix that.
>>108001879GhostBSD is based on FreeBSD, so can I use freebsd's nvidia drivers on it?
>>107998863I've never used BSD before not even really sure what it is. I have a spare SSD that is currently not even partitioned so I may give it a go for learning.Out of the main 4 in OP which is recommended for someone who has only ever used GNU/Linux and Windows?
>>108001585Fuck off Luke.
>>107998863pufferfish wit da big ass lip
>>108002334Don't use Nvidia but the repos are mostly a mirror of FreeBSD's, so I don't see why it couldn't work.
>>108002496As a desktop OS, FreeBSD generally is "like GNU/Linux" since you'll be using the exact same WMs/DEs, installing software mostly via packages from a repo, etc. but you also have the option to go full Gentoo via the ports tree.
Has anyone ported Proton to FreeBSD? I don't care about Steam, I just want to run my GOG installers.
>>108001828Aris-t2's CustomCSSforFx should get you something similar.Alternatively, Pale Moon.>>108002496>which is recommended for someone who has only ever used GNU/Linux and Windows?If you are already familiar with GNU/Linux, any of the BSDs will do, as long as you are aware of their capabilities and limitations. Read the documentation.>>108002929>Has anyone ported Proton to FreeBSD?https://www.freshports.org/emulators/wine-proton/
>>108002531
>>108002929Checkhttps://codeberg.org/Alexander88207/MizutamariBut I think it uses pure WINE instead of Proton
A few questions about OpenBSD.Does SNDIO allow you to adjust volume independently per stereo channel?What's the best CD ripping software for OpenBSD? I don't think there's one that can do accuraterip, but if there is, that'd be incredible. Otherwise I'll just use one of the few standalone EAC scanners from GitHub.Adding onto that, has anyone tried getting Whipper to work on OpenBSD?Many thanks to OP for posting this rather unpopural general.
arch lunix user hereim thinking about experimenting with bsd, looking for something lite, minimal and with support for nvidia driverswould freebsd be a good pick for me?
What's the situation with *BSD and Nvidia? is there any driver support yet?
>>108005636>Does SNDIO allow you to adjust volume independently per stereo channel?Yes. See https://man.openbsd.org/sndioctl>What's the best CD ripping software for OpenBSD?OpenBSD has cdio(1) in base. cdparanoia and more are available in the ports tree; look around.>Adding onto that, has anyone tried getting Whipper to work on OpenBSD?I'm not aware of any attempt. It shouldn't be an impossible task, since Whopper is written in Python.
>>108006035>>108006115>Nvidiasupports only FreeBSD.NetBSD has nouveau(4). If it works, it works.
>>108006944well i need it to work good and not like shit and nouveau proved to work like shit for me
>>108006869>Yes. See https://man.openbsd.org/sndioctlOh my god, I swear I checked that manpage a million times. I have no idea how I missed the answer, I'm a little embarrassed. Thank you.
>>108000648SOVL
>>108006944Does the Nvidia driver for FreeBSD compile itself into the kernel like with DKMS and linux? If so then what's stopping me from compiling against OpenBSD kernel? I assume BSD kernels are similar enough this should be possible? though I would like to be corrected here
@108001585 (fuck You)i very much agree with the stance, but this should absolutely not discourage a dude who wants to use a bsd, it is rather an issue of developers responsible for the project rather than the end-userhell, on the same page luke argues that cuck licenses can indeed help in certain cases
>>108007130>If so then what's stopping me from compiling against OpenBSD kernel?The fact that the only people that can compile it are Nvidia themselves.
>>108007534On Linux the Nvidia driver is divided into two parts, one part is the in-kernel driver, which is provided as a source package that is compiled against the kernel headers into a dynamic kernel module (DKM) that can then be loaded by the kernel as an out-of-tree module, the other part is the closed source compiled userspace library files which are just provided as proprietary closed-source binaries and libraries.>The fact that the only people that can compile it are Nvidia themselves.I'm talking only about the in-kernel driver, for which a source package is in fact provided, at least on Linux.I don't know if this works the same on the BSD side or if BSD kernels even use DKM. Actually how does BSD kernels load drivers? is it the same as Linux?
>>108007790>>108007534This is what NVIDIA publishes for FreeBSD, who knows if it can be ported to OpenBSD.
https://github.com/NVIDIA/open-gpu-kernel-modulesWhat's stopping you from porting the open source Nvidia driver to OpenBSD? A Japanese autist ported it to Haiku.
>>108008285Patches welcomed.
>>108008423>gnu emacs>on openbsdhuh
>>108007130>I assume BSD kernels are similar enough this should be possible?This is not Linux. The kernels between all the three main BSDs vary wildly.>>108007790>Actually how does BSD kernels load drivers?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5qhWw07qpUhttps://www.openbsd.org/papers/eurobsdcon2017-device-drivers.pdf>>108007909FreeBSD is only supported because Nvidia supports it and the driver for FreeBSD doesn't even support a lot of the features (e.g. CUDA) but you can get it working (people say on the forum) through the Linux emulator.That's nouveau. We already have nv(4)https://man.openbsd.org/nv.4>>108008496A lot of us use emacs. It's the most lightweight application for viewing epubs, cbzs and pdf files among other things.Stop falling for D&C.
>>108008857>It's the most lightweight application>emacs
>>108009858The key part of the sentence is "FOR <file types>".
>>108008857>FreeBSD is only supported because Nvidia supports it and the driver for FreeBSD doesn't even support a lot of the features (e.g. CUDA)It's not that the driver doesn't support CUDA (it does), it's that the CUDA compiler toolchain is provided in binary form, and only for Windows/Linux and only with Windows/Linux targets. But running a Linux build of PyTorch or whatever isn't a problem, it's just a different userland.The old FreeBSD driver (i.e. the one in ports) has complete feature parity with the other platforms outside of the userland garbage.You're fucked on Blackwell and newer though since Nvidia dropped support for FreeBSD with the new "get fucked providing driver support isn't worth the money" open source driver stack.
>>108009882and yet, it's still emacs.
>>108008423Dude, you're built for taking Big Black Nigger Cocks in your fucking hole.
>>108010136Wow 20MB of RAM. I sure am glad it's not 1978 anymore. Guess I'm a dumb faggot and I should have downloaded the cbz reader that wanted 500 dependencies including rust and a full blown javascript interpreter for some reason instead.
>>108010249Since I bought an e-reader, I've never tried reading on my laptop again; it makes a huge difference. The newer Kindle models have compatibility issues with OpenBSD, but the older ones can be mounted with mount_msdos(8). I don't use Calibre. When I need to check the formatting of an e-book, I use MuPDF.
Will FreeBSD fuck up my systemd boot if I dual boot?
>>108012292No, but FreeBSD's bsdinstall(8) isn't smart enough to partition only a portion of the disk. Instead, it partitions the entire disk. Therefore, if you want to dual boot, you'll have to drop into a shell and partition manually. Next, you'll need to copy the loader.efi file to the EFI partition and configure systemd-boot to chainload the FreeBSD boot loader.https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/uefi-gpt-dual-boot-how-to-install-freebsd-with-zfs-alongside-another-os-sharing-the-same-disk.75734/
>>108012922From my experience FreeBSD just takes the largest free space on the disk. Do double check when installing though. It might choose to overwrite if there is not enough free space.
>>108012966It's been a while since I installed FreeBSD, so you might be right. It's still necessary to configure systemd-boot to chainload the FreeBSD bootloader.
>>108012922I have a blank SSD. It's just sat there so I figured I'd try freebsd. I'm a noob though even to Linux and I really don't wanna fuck my arch installation because that is my main os and all my stuff is on it.So not arsed about partition it can use the whole disk I'm just thinking if it will corrupt the boot or if I should try to swap to grub I dunno.I've been watching tutorial videos and stuff before I do anything.
>>108013073bsdinstall autopartitioning shouldn't nuke your efi partition if it finds it
>>107999126>Miyako>NetBSDNice.
>>107998863God damn I wanna suck on those fat tits
Does HAMMER2 support the MASTER/SLAVE PFS types yet? Or is it still just causing a kernel panic. I know it's in the manpage - but it was in the manpage like three years ago. I like Matt Dillon but putting theoretical documentation in your manpages is ass.
>>108017161you're more likely to find the answer to your question on the mailing lists. there used to be an autist here who used dragonfly, but he's no longer around. he made this funny image with the gimp.
BSD seems cool, but I don’t think I’d install it on my main desktop. Perhaps on a side machine, I’ll stick with Gentoo for a while.
>>108018819Thank you for your interest regardless.
>>108019212bsd is cool but solaris is slickfreebsd did not become solaris' successor.
>>108019212No problem at all. I will keep an eye on these threads. They are always interesting to read.
>>107998863Bump
>>108018819Gentoo is already a lot like FreeBSD anyway
