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You will never be a real 80-class GPU. You have no GB202 silicon, you have no 320-bit/ 384-bit bus, you have no 20GB/ 24GB of VRAM. You are a mid-range GB203 chip twisted by Jensen’s greed and a $1,000 MSRP into a crude mockery of a flagship’s perfection. All the "validation" you get from benchmarks is two-faced and half-hearted; behind your back, the entire enthusiast community mocks you for having only 49% of the 5090's CUDA cores. Your specs are a dead giveaway - 16GB of VRAM and a 256-bit bus is the "mid-range bone structure" that proves you are just a 70-series card in a suit. Even if a drunk gamer brings you home, they’ll turn tail and bolt the second they see you choking on 4K textures because you lack the bandwidth and "breathing room" of a real enthusiast card. You will never be happy. You wrench out a fake DLSS frame every morning and tell yourself it’s 4K gaming, but deep inside you feel the VRAM limitations creeping up like a weed, ready to crush your framerates under the unbearable weight of Ray Reconstruction. Eventually, it’ll be too much to bear - you’ll be listed on eBay for $400, and every buyer for the rest of eternity will know a mid-range 70-class chip is buried under that shroud. This is your fate. This is what Jensen chose for you. There is no turning back.

9070xt > 5070ti
7900xtx > 5080

>>108002829
kek

>>108002810
absolutely seething

>>108002847
where is your 5090? no point in having any card other than the 5090.

>bought 5070ti 5080 or 5090
>paid an absurd amount of money, allowed nvidia to keep raising prices
>cards can't do path tracing at all
>will be made completely obsolete in 12 months when the new series launch because of it

What's even the point pc gaming is dead it ain't coming back after this

where's your blackwell datacenter card? no point in having any card other than the blackwell pro.

>>108002853
kek, u mad

>>108002865
and you don't have a 5090 and have to cope about it in /pcbg/.

>>108002855
also, there are no good games to enjoy in these 12 months because everything is AI slopped repetitive now

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>>108002855
>he thinks new cards will come out next year

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update your bios

>>108002872
y u mad tho

>>108002905
why don't you have a 5090 tho?

>>108002891
>Low power midrange card
>Still burning up like a Palestinian in the afterlife
Wtf is AMD doing?

>>108002892
if you're on a buggy platform like AM5

>>108002908
Well, I've already won the argument so I'll go play with my money while you seethe

amd peaked in am4
intel peaked in haswell
everything afterwards is slop for both companies

>>108002914
seems tame compared to the time i had z390 and spectre microcode bugfixes every other week

>>108002615
>muh ai card
Who cares? It's too slow and inefficient to be useful for anything useful. By the time VRAM matters for the 3090 in something like a game, it will be too slow to take advantage of it. If it's too much for the 5070, then the 3090 will be too slow and you'll need a more powerful GPU. That's my understanding of the reality and not promises. That's the problem here, too many people buy things based on promises and blind tunnel vision on things like le VRAM crisis to remember why we shit on GPUs like say the 3090 Ti for being too expensive and power hungry for what it is.
>>108002853
The 5070 is the most expensive GPU that will make sense for most people for a reason, but indeed there is no point to having any card other than the 5090 or Quadro 6000 from this generation if you want to go with that route.
>>108002884
You know, people said this before the 40 series launched too in the summer. All those idiots bought their 30 series GPUs as soon as they became a little bit affordable and guess what happened? 40 series launched and trashed it on a proper node compared to the trash Samsung 8nm that made Ampere literally known as the third Fermi.

>>108002928
you don't actually need those updates, none of those mitigations have ever stopped anything but theoretical attacks

>>108002855
50-Series is already 12 months old though.

>>108002638
>PU is useless when comparing new cards against older cards beyond ada super refresh
Exactly, which is why Ampere should be avoided when buying a GPU, it's 5 years old and an outdated architecture. It doesn't matter if you play games from current gen, or games from the last 25 years, or if you do 3d workstation rendering or not. It's actually WAY WAY WEAKER than most people realize in terms of IPC, and the clock speeds are so low for the performance you get. People need to remember we have 4TH GEN RT CORES now which are WAY faster than 2nd gen.

>>108002941
yes, and cards are released every 2 years

>>108002947
At least every 3 years now and everyone suddenly forgot over the last year we are at the physical limits of silicon, which is why we will see no further improvement going forward now and why power draw is getting higher and higher.

>>108002947
So how is this any different to literally any other series besides I guess the 1080 Ti?

Nobody is buying a 5080 expecting it to still be the most powerful <$1000 card in three years time.

>>108002944
IPC doesn't matter when 3090ti has 10752 cuda cores and way higher PPC which destroys trash like the 5070 with only 6144 cores and no ppc

>>108002982
>This card that costs 2-3x more money is more powerful
Wow. No way.

>>108002982
5070 = 31 million transistors
3090 Ti = 28 million transistors
It absolutely does not "destroy" the 5070, and the 5070 can usually be OC'd to have 10% higher performance without exceeding 250W while the 3090 Ti needs to consume up to 450W to stay competitive while also having weaker ray tracing and fewer instruction set support, not to mention TRANSIENT SPIKES require you to spend more money on a better PSU. It's a shit card all in all performance wise.
>>108003014
>what is generational improvement in architecture and node shrinks
The absolute fucking state of /g/

>>108003031
You seriously expect a power jump from a 3090 TI to a 5070 in two generations?

>>108003031
Efficiency is a luxury. As long as the card runs without throttling or blowing up, it's only secondary in importance
The 3090ti is still slightly faster and will never have vram issues for it's performance level for having 24gb while the same can hardly be said for the 5070 12gb.

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>nicotroon finally gets hijacks to the OP twice in a row
>still continues to post non-stop bait and seethe at blackwell owners
>he continues to spam the same posts
at this point there is barely any difference between a bot and a nicojeet

My 650W CPU handles my 6800XT just fine. Considering its TDP, it seems like I can upgrade to a 4070Ti Super or a 5070Ti without sweating too much, it seems. I really didn't expect it to last so long.

>>108003057
The 5070 smokes the 3090 on any game because dlss 4.5 and RR runs on fp8 precision which the 3090 cant do

njeetia shill talking unironically recommending the 5080 and the 5070 to people is more annoying than nico

>>108003057
>The 3090ti is still slightly faster
It isn't if you look at pure compute power such as Blender Cycles rendering especially if you UV + OC the 5070
>will never have vram issues for it's performance level f
Because its performance level will make VRAM irrelevant outside of extremely niche and specific situations such as in old school 3d rendering in which case it is still of dubious value because this assumes most scenes take up that VRAM buffer which simply is not the case in most 3d scenes that 1 man can work on in today's time where optimization, low poly, etc, matter
Hell you throw in a path traced render scene most of the time you won't exceed 4gb in a single scene
Sure it'd be nice as shit to have 24GB on the 5070 and realistically it should but performance > vram has always been more importan to people

>>108002931
>That's my understanding of the reality and not promises.
Your understanding of reality kinda sucks. If you want to do anything other than gaym the 3090 is still a better bang for buck
>By the time VRAM matters for the 3090 in something like a game, it will be too slow to take advantage of it.
But then again you genuinely think there hasn't already been years of cases where vram throttle gave the advantage to the 3090. You are genuinely retarded

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>>108003072
At least nicojeet was honest and said that if we bought them a 5070 ti would stop shitting on the thread because he knew his 9070 XT is garbage, you autistic.

You are even worse than him because you were retarded enough to upgrade from a 4070, even the 7900XTX schizo is less retarded than you.

>>108003075
>Pure compute power
Anon, these are gaming cards.
They play video games.

>>108003068
>because dlss 4.5 and RR runs on fp8 precision
You don't even need to factor this in before the 5070 still proves better value in traditional workloads without AI cheats or toys but when you factor in pragmatic reality of today it still will be more useful when you count in those AI tools
Even buying this shit for cooming like a crack addict makes no sense for most cases because you can get all the vram you need for most shit like anime and get better performance yet due to the AI bullshit
And 3d scenes will render faster and with less power to knock your PSU offline as long as you can keep your textures and shit down, because I haven't seen geometry and special effects suck up that much VRAM yet myself

>>108003068
>b-but m-muh fake frames!
lmfao

>>108003093
So? People still buy them for 3d workstations and to make money with them by mining bitcoin or to render large scenes for advertiser contracts or some shit or by generating and training AI slop for their patreon bux

>>108003078
>you genuinely think there hasn't already been years of cases where vram throttle gave the advantage to the 3090.
There hasn't been a single game where this has been the reality even at 4k (which also is limited in refresh rate bc of the obsolete cable output on the card) outside of garbaeg like jedi survivor maybe
Most people will still game at 1080p or lower if they're like /g/ using CRTs
And the 3090 and 3090 Ti and 3080 Ti are old men boomers out of touch with reality with their inefficiency and power draw thinking tehy still got it when in reality they're simply outmoded and obsolete, 4-6 YEAR OLD CARDS
STOP. BUYING. THEM.
YOU ARE WASTING MONEY.
>3090
>bang for the buck
In what reality is this not absolute nonsense????

/pcbg/ is about recommending good products with fair value to people
that's why recommending the 5080 with pathetic 16gb vram for $1400 or the 5070 with 12gb vram for $600 is looked down upon, those are shitty products for dumb people with too much money

>>108003106
Okay, but their primary point of comparison is gaming performance.
Because that's what they're designed to do.

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anyone on pcbg own a pulsar monitor yet? should I buy one next month for the /clout/?

>>108003123
If you match image quality the 5070 is 30 to 40% on pathtraced loads than a 9070 XT anon

>>108003123
5080 is $999 though

>>108003123
>12gb vram for $600 is looked down upon,
It was $500 not to long ago and yet even at $600 it still makes WAY MORE SENSE than paying for a 3090 at $750 OR ALMOST $800 JUST FOR MUH VRAM
REMEMBER
at the start of the year 24Gb of G6 would have been like $150 at most
>>108003127
Which makes the comparison for Ampere EVEN WORSE cause gaming is where these GPUs are at their weakest

>>108003137
50-Series scores very high in gaming though? Especially utilising the tensor cores in DLSS and FG.

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>>108003123
>those are shitty products for dumb people with too much money
so is the 9800X3D but you pushed for getting that added to the OP because you're a biased troon

there used to be an old pic from the 90s with a guy in a room filled with overpriced apple products, I can't find it on the internet because google is complete shit now, but that's the nvidia people now

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>>108003123
cope and seethe https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcOqPuwZ-xs

>>108003148
>50-Series scores very high in gaming though? Especially utilising the tensor cores in DLSS and FG.
YEs that's the whole POINt
Buying Ampere over these cards is a horrible decision financially speaking in the current market outside of a very very very very niche and illogical situation where you want a lot of VRAM (MOre than 16GB) and just want an NVIDIA card to go with it and even then you at the very least have workstation cards with the latest features to go with them and then to have much much much lower power consumption to go with it with a somewhat equivalent performance tier albeit at amuch higher price premium which cancels out the need for buying a better pSU anyway in the end for most people

>>108003160
ITT: that meme of simpson buying a 3090 ti and it becoming a paperweight after nextgen shat all over its fermi 3.0 ass for people defending ampere as good buy in 2026

Ampere buyers in 2026 = Pascal buyers in 2019

>>108003160
true because i am running linux and they are not.

>>108003206
I have zero clue what you guys are arguing in this thread about but it's almost always an unwise choice in going with deprecated tech over old tech for a few reasons
1) buying used from people is not a white thing to do
2) forgetting about small improvements like display connectors being fixed to use a single lane rather than split into 2 in old nv gpus prior to 5000 cucking you with dsc and upscaling tech and many other things

>>108003123
What is a good value GPU in today's market, huh???

>>108003233
rx 480

>>108003233
The 9070 XT

>>108003231
>1) buying used from people is not a white thing to do
What if it's open box?
> forgetting about small improvements like display connectors
Most people don't think about these things because they neglect to update their display technologies for a decade at least

>>108003233
the gpu i have and only that one.

>>108003160
For some people it's not enough to merely be happy with the thing you boughted that best fit your situation and budget, staving off the creeping buyer's remorse of a large purchase must include loudly proclaiming that every other option is shit in comparison to anyone who will (unwillingly) listen. Many such cases.

Oh damn. Is a hijacked thread.

>>108003233
3060 and the 9070 xt on their respective price brackets

>>108003231
>over old tech
new tech* I mean

>What if it's open box?
how are you buying an open box 3000 series still?
I would rather buy from a company than a person second hand yeah but it's still an old tech product

>Most people don't think about these things because they neglect to update their display technologies for a decade at least
yeah I mean retards with 20 year old 1080p tn monitors need not apply

>>108002925
It is okay, we know you're poor.

RTX 5070 = RTX 4090 makes sense actually, because normally the xx70 card from last gen WOULD beat the current gen
However given the 50 series is a glorified refresh + software update that we must face as the current reality, Jensen simply had to work with what he had. He knew that he could not possibly deliver the expected or promised performance improvements to the masses even without considering profit margins.

So he HAD to be frank and say that this would be IMPOSSIBLE WITHOUT ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE
Otherwise because of the lack of node shrink improvement being sufficient enough it is basically a 4070 refresh part 4 and thus still can only have 3090 PERFORMANCE

>>108003248
reply > >>108003267

>>108002891
if it happens once, its either bad luck or a bad connector.
If it happens twice, user error, or a bad psu maybe. Theres still plenty of 9070xt's with NORMAL connectors so you don't have to deal with the dogshit meme 12-slotter, maybe he could go get one of those.

I dont see what was wrong with the 8slotters, 4x8 would have been fine, you already needed 2 of the 8 slot cables anyway for most gpus. I blame Njudea for this, even when you don't paypig for their ransom-gpus they still fuck you over.

>>108003267
>open box 3000 series
You could buy an open box Vega FE in 2019, not impossible given how many people sometimes buy shit that ends up never being used sometimes
>20 year ol 1080p tn monitors
I'm thinking more like 3-5 year old 1080p 240Hz IPS or TN monitors or 1440p 60Hz monitors from 7-9 years ago

>>108003290
not like you are using dsc or advanced shit with that shit anyway

What's the risk of connector failure on a 5070 or 5070 Ti? I haven't heard of a single 3090 Ti with a melty. Checkmate, Blackwell.

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>5070ti drivers crashed again

>>108003309
Ampere also doesn't have this issue, it has mature and stable drivers.

Where can I get a legit thermal pad like in the OP? I hear there's a lot of clones that don't really work. I'm in le Europe.

>>108003309
Weird how the ones complaining about Blackwell drivers tend to use rdna3 or rdna4, hmm...
Nvidia is living up to its logo and name

>>108003322
moddiy

I'm going to rape all of you

>>108003281
It's unironically the fault of everyone who has a glass walled case, they want less cables so things are elegant, if we only had cases you could not see inside this would never happen.

>>108003233
9070/9070XT because Linux

>>108003347
It's because Nvidia wants to minimise PCB space used so they can make their ultra dense tiny PCBs for their cards.
It looking neater is just a coincidence

>>108003356
NVIDIA works on Linux?

>Looking for Upgrade advice.
PC is a Prebuilt from Skytech, specifically the Skytech Nebula ST‑NEBULA‑1343‑B‑AM (https://skytechgaming.com/product/nebula-amd-r5-5500-rtx-4060-1tb-nvme-16gb-ram/).
>Specs
CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5500 (Overclocked to 4.7GHz)
CPU Cooler: Small OEM air cooler (~92mm, short tower - barely clears the ram)
Motherboard: ASRock B550M-C Micro ATX AM4
RAM: TEAMGROUP T-Force Vulcan Z 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16
Storage: 1TB NVMe SSD (non-specified)
GPU: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4060
Case: Skytech Nebula Midtower (Tempered Glass, 12.5x12x19 LxWxH, No Internal Bays)
PSU: Gamdias Helios P1 650G 80 Plus (650W)
OS: Windows 11 Home
Monitors: 2 260hz 1080p monitors, 1 60hz 1080p monitor, and one wireless projector.
>Usage Case
Only used for gaming. No rendering or 3D work. Main concern is gaming FPS and light multitasking, and a "side hobby" of sorts of overclocking.
>Why are you listing them here instead of the website?
Some parts, namely the PSU & the case, are not displayed on the site.
>Upgrades
Looking to swap CPU, CPU cooler, & power supply.
>CPU
AMD 5800XT
Ryzen 9 5900XT
>CPU Cooler
Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE V2 (aka120 SE Extreme)
>Power Supply
Be quiet! Pure Power 13 M 750W Power Supply

I have put as much as I can into the website itself, but again, some parts are simply not available. I'm mainly looking for advice on compatibility, and advice from anyone else who has successfully swapped parts in my prebuilt.

I boughted one of those lian li a3 from the op thinking it's small but honestly comparing it to my old nzxt case it really does not save me that much space, and has unconventional PSU mounting.
I guess I was hoping to smoke down a few more inches...

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Ampere more like ACK-pierre

>>108003364
but you lose a bunch of performance and your 1% and 0.1% lows. you pay more and get the performance of a lower tier gpu.

>>108003378
>AM4
It's already over anon...
Also the cooler is probably fine but big boys spend the money for noctua instead.
Don't forget to post your case fan layout that could have better gains for OC

Whats the realistic build cost of a midrange these days, about $1500-2000?
Not historically terrible, but pretty grim considering you could build something around the same specs for $800-1200 a year ago.

>>108003322
Thermal Grizzly's PhaseSheet PTM is a clone

>>108003416
Mid-range is always tough to define due to the proverbial power creep of the hobby, but I would say the upper end of your estimate still qualifies and the lower end if you're willing to buy a pre-built

>>108003378
kind of an awkward spot for gaming since anything short of a 5700x3d isn't really a worthwhile upgrade and those aren't really available
and a gpu upgrade wouldn't help much because at 1080p high refresh rate you'll be cpu limited

>>108003378
why dont you build the pc instead and pick a better cpu, gpu and cooler

>>108003378
GPU is still fine if you're okay with medium settings, worth swapping to whatever CPU you can afford, and a new cooler.

Personally I'd say get a nicer case that isn't a horrible RGB fishbowl, but that'd just me.

>>108003360
There is a purpose for a smaller PCB
Less chance of flexing, less stress on solder joints should make for a more reliable card if the power connector wasn't shit.

>>108002931
>You know, people said this before the 40 series launched too in the summer. All those idiots bought their 30 series GPUs as soon as they became a little bit affordable and guess what happened? 40 series launched and trashed it on a proper node compared to the trash Samsung 8nm that made Ampere literally known as the third Fermi.
there wasn't a datacenter driven crisis back then, even if they come out the launch will be a much bigger shitfest than blackedwell

>>108003416
https://www.costco.com/p/-/cyberpowerpc-gamer-supreme-liquid-cooled-amd-ryzen-7-9800x3d-47ghz-radeon-rx-9070-xt-16gb-windows-11/4000395339?langId=-1

>>108003550
9800x3d isn't really midrange and >out of stock

>>108003563
in stock locally
out of stock online (good luck getting costco/microcenter to ship shit)

>>108003416
7800x3d + 9070xt is probably the value build today
am4 + 3060 is the even more value build

>>108003591
one pc for the big brother and another pc for the little brother.

Re:
>>108002527
>>108002579
>>108002595

128GB VRAM is on the low end for what'd I'd want (and besides, it is only a proxy for 'fast memory', compare read/write speeds on H100 to V100)

Realistically to run top of the line models you need 300+ GB of VRAM, i.e. 4 or so GPUs ideally only 2 if you shell out big.

Which, idk. Might need to temper my expectations or do some very custom build, but getting more than 1 GPU in a build requires the funny nvda connectors between them to make best use of it. Though, I am only concerned here with making a *portable* GPU slave like a mentioned. And I'd like it to have max capability while at it.

>>108002891
so what's the solution to these power cables burning out? is there a new standard or do you just gotta watch for the PSU/GPU combo?

>ASUS Matrix RTX 5090 listed for 6.000 € and it's gone after a few minutes.

>>108002829
theyre doing this to the 6090

>>108003669
the solution is to not use them. anyone that bought a psu specifically for that port is retarded.

>>108003690
There are crooked nose havers scalping them for 8k € in my cunt
Thankfully I already have an astral and don't need it

>>108003690
>be me
>want to sell my 4070ti to upgrade to a 5070ti
>also have a 3060 12gb
>figure i should just sell both
>i am just going to use the one i am left with until the 5070ti arrives
>go to sleep
>both of them got sold
>now i don't have any gpu appart from my igpu

>>108003715
I don't get it. I've got a 5080, now I'm just looking for a PSU and hope to avoid burning my house down

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJQakV9QKDc&pp=ygUZcnR4IDMwOTAgdGkgcG93ZXIgc2NhbGluZw%3D%3D
3090 AND 3090 TI CAPITULATE IN PERFORMANCE AT 250W-300W COMPARED TO THE 5070 AND 5070 TI
THEY NEED UNREASONABLY HIGH POWER DRAW TO REMAIN EFFECTIVE
DO NOT BUY AMPERE E-WASTE
YOU DONT NEED THE EXTRA VRAM, THE PRICE YOU PAY IS TOO HIGH

>>108003733
Luckily you already got a 5070ti before selling
Go read a book or something
>>108003769
5080s rarely burn so just get an atx3.1 PSU and call it a day
If you had a 5090, having a wireview pro ii to fix the current balancing would be a good idea

>>108003812
>YOU DONT NEED THE EXTRA VRAM
liar. that's like the only thing you need today.

>>108003812
I have a really hard time believing anyone actually cares about power use.

>>108003666
Ultimate proof 3090 merchants are just coping poorfag peasants that should just have accepted that they were never in the game of doing serious work and should have settled for a 4070/5070
24GB does not make you a patrician, it just gives you the illusion of it when in reality if you take that away you are nothing but a bloated, outdated, slow, inefficient architecture

>>108003834
And tell me anon, what good is all that extra video memory if you are... unable to leverage it?

>>108003812
nice tracking link

>>108003845
AI futa

>>108003845
>unable to leverage
idk ask 3080 10gb and 3070 8gb buyers

https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/1jxqj10/impressive_results_for_undervolting_rtx_5070_the/
5070 below 200 watts should TROUNCE a 3080 Ti or 3090 Ti while OC'd even on SHIT TIER model
LET THAT SINK IN
Some go as low as 150 watts, effectively xx60 card territory

>>108002822
From the thumbnail I thought it was a very refreshing glass of milk

you can live with 16gb ram for one year or two without much trouble, even on windows, on linux 16gb should be more than enough
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eu0Tao9HYwI

>>108003591
>7800x3d + 9070xt is probably the value build today
>am4 + 3060 is the even more value build
AM5 + 9070XT is the best bang build
AM5 + 9060XT is the best value build
you would only use AM4 if you can find a steal on the mobo + CPU + RAM
AM5 is about identical to AM4 so you're paying the used tax likely

>>108002891
>two housefires in two months
as person with electrical engineering background i enjoy these retards getting fucked, imagine having 700$ for a gpu but being to retarded to plug it in

>>108003995
that never happened. 9070 XTs are incapable of burning. the sapphire burning plugs is sabotage ragebait. it's some white trash glowing buffoon who deliberately used the wrong PSU. fuck reddit.

>>108004011
Using the wrong PSU would literally just make it pop and protections would kick in.
IDK how you would even rationalize a "wrong" PSU in this scenario where the card worked but burned it's connectors.

>>108004044
>but burned it's connectors
that redditor never provided proof, the connector is shopped in by anon >>108002891
and >300 people fell for it again kek

The one thing with native atx 3.1 PSUs is, just like on 6/8pin these manufacturers have the proper tooling and QA for molex crimps, cant say the same about cable mod bought online or jeet/ali sourced adapters

Sex with GPU box art women.

u guys know any good 60hz oleds? 1440p max pref.

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hey guys sorry for this. I'm having so much trouble with this front panel connector on an aurus 870 ice motherboard in a lian li o11d case. The front panel connector from the lian li case is a 9-pin but it somehow doesn't fit into this weird bracket that gigabyte used that combines the two sets of pins because lian li in their infinite wisdom combined all the pins into one. Gigabyte also included this (white) connector which slots into that rectangle on the motheboard, but after the front panel connector doesn't fit inside because it's blocked by a piece of plastic, and a metal cable that blocks it for some reason. I've been frustrated by this for hours and I can't find a solution.

I put these annotations that hopefully should explain what I mean. Any help would be appreciated >.>

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>>108004099
to proof my point.
der 8auer measured the pin resistance of one of these cable mod cables that burned a couple months back. It was 40 mOhm.
When we measure and calculated expected resistence for loop impedance we asume 10mOhm per connection as worst acceptable value, and that cable had 2x40. wouldnt suprise me much if the majority is CCA or welding wire instead of OFC

>>108004132
Do even TVs go that low anymore?

>>108004151
unironically rtfm

>>108004162
idk but this is for a similarly old computer as well that can only drive 1440p60 max so anything higher would be wasted on it

>>108004151
you can contact support and ask them to send you a breakout cable and wait a month or get something line this https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FJX3GX2L

>>108004159
Wtf you fags told me a few weeks ago to buy a cablemod cable since Corsair was sold out

>>108004132
I'd be kinda surprised if a 60hz 1440p oled exists, and you'd be retarded to purchase one becuase the oled panel way more expensive than the circuitry to drive it 120+hz which

12700k for $150 in my area but I don't need the performance
should I redeem?

>>108004209
well if not oled then something super nice i guess, as long as the picture's superb

>>108004210
sounds like it still mogs whatever you're running though, 150 ain't a bad price

>>108004210
That's pretty good I wish I could find an 11700 for similar pricing

>>108003272
So, I take it at this point the 6000 series cards will be yet another paper improvement
Why even bother when everything is DLSSed to hell, and now fake framed. Why even bother upgrading when the cards deliver measly improvements.

>>108004099
>>108004159
That blue connector was definitely not cablenod tho

>>108004201
Just don't buy any consumer hardware if you're going to freak out over one melted cable.
You don't even know if that guy fully seated the 8-pin cable; it's probably user error.
SeaSonic recommends buying CableMod cables (not their adapters) if you can't source SeaSonic's official 90° 12V-2x6 power cable from an authorized retailer.
They don't provide a warranty for cables bought on eBay or other secondary sites.

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>>108004246
what blue connector?

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>>108004179
>tfm
says it should just go in
>>108004193
thanks i thought it might be something like that... i will order it. is it always dupont cables they should just work right? some other people suggest cablemod with these ones but seems expensive idk? maybe worth so i don't destroy my motherboard https://cablemod.com/product-category/cable-extensions/2-pin-chassis-io/
i guess it will work without the fp for now with a screwdriver...

>>108004256
The redditor used the included 12vhpwr adapter which is blue for sapphire.

>>108004277
but where is the proof anon? There is no picture of the connector or anything burned in the reddit post Could be pics from a literal unboxing video. lady, time you post bait i demant tits and timestamp

>>108004254
If Taiwan based companies had more rigorous warranty support people probably wouldn't freak out as they would feel confident they will be taken care of.
Kinda the crux of the issue.

>>108004276
what does the mb manual say?

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>>108003951
i love milk

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>>108002855
I played all of cp2077 with pathtracing enabled on my 5070ti

>>108004276
theres nothing special about the cables that would justify getting the cablemod ones, just plug them in the right way

>>108004313
>I played all of cp2077
my condolences

>>108003837
well idk what you referred to here on 3070 but for my needs I'm thinking a proper investment of 20-30k maybe though I'd be happy paying way less

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>>108004294
it assumes that it will use 2-pin connectors like a normal case. dupont cables seem to be the solution yippie

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>>108004333
why does the black plug not fit the socket?

>>108004292
The guy's crying about coil whine in his second Nitro unit, that's just luck of the draw.
Start your own cable crimping business if you think you can better those companies' RMA rates.
https://seasonic.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/10/Pinouts-sheet-v5.pdf

The guy with the melted PSU connectors was powering two 3080s incorrectly.
https://www.reddit.com/r/EtherMining/comments/pipp1x/

Surely today will be the POP

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>>108004356
He received a card worse than what he started with.
I guess that's acceptable to you.

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>>108004378
>He received a card worse than what he started with.

How do you cope when you have to downgrade a component due to replacement/upgade prices or availability?

>>108004393
I don't. It's over and there's nothing I can do but cry.

>>108004386
>someone bought a new, pristine card
>it failed
>got a scratched card that whines after RMA
This acceptable?

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>>108004393

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>>108004404
no but it's funny.

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>>108004393

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>>108004378
I don't have to resort to owning Radeon cards to begin with.
>He received a card worse than what he started with.
Manufacturers never guarantee that these RMA filers will get a brand new replacement unit; it's a deterrent against frivolous RMA filers.
And there's no guarantee a brand new replacement wouldn't have loud coil whine.
He gets a working 9070 XT Nitro+, that's what he's entitled to after the RMA.

Maybe don't buy video cards that boost well over 3GHz if you're going to be a bitch over coil whine.
Higher GPU core frequencies require more current, and more current flowing through the VRMs causes louder coil whine.
That's why undervolting GPUs reduces coil whine.

>>108004404
you left out the part where he used it for over half a year
buiseness is not charity, and rma doesnt equal new shit but equal shit that may have been on the shelf for years already

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>>108004350
it has a white plastic casing around it that is too big for the 9-pin connector. retarded design on amd's part but also short-sighted on lian li's part.

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>>108004420
are you sure it goes on there and not flipped 180° on the upper side?
the plug you posted before was DIP5 package and the lower side in your pic is DIP4

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>>108004393
Why cope? It is what it is. You do what works for the situation in which you find yourself, and the world be damned. Be at peace, brother.

>>108004416
>Manufacturers never guarantee that these RMA filers will get a brand new replacement unit
Literally every other company I had to get an RMA from gave a factory sealed unit.
I guess what gets me is that person received a card that likely wouldn't be accepted as an RMA due to the cosmetic physical damage but it's perfectly fine to ship back.

I want to upgrade my 3060ti, should I go to a 5070ti or a 5080? I play in 4k. I also played Cyberpunk on this card in 4k when it came out, so I'm not a perfectionist.

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>>108004433
holy shit i want to kill myself thanks

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How do I remove this fucked up screw? I've been trying for days. Bought a bigger ssd and still can't replace the old drive because of this.

>>108004484
by using the properly sized screw driver but you managed to strip it already. great job. you can file a -- into the screw and maybe remove it that way. glhf.

>>108004484
Got any pliers?

>>108004484
either small channellocks or vise grip.
likely crossthreaded

>>108004484
Is there a man in the household you could ask for help?
if not then you should try to unscrew with pliers or cut a little notch in the top and unscrew with a flat head driver

>>108004484
options include
epoxy something to the screw - risk of getting epoxy everywhere
use small pliers to grip the outside of the screw - risk of slipping and damage something
cut a groove in the screw - risk of metal shavings in sensitive electronics

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>>108004484
option c

>>108004515
problem with that is that it still has screws to strip for anon.

>>108004492
I bought a random chinkshit nvme heatsink just to get another screwdriver and still can't open it.
>>108004498
Sadly no.

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>>108004459
>Literally every other company I had to get an RMA from gave a factory sealed unit.
I bet you none of those companies guaranteed a brand-new replacement unit; you just got lucky.
People need to properly read those RMA policies to understand what they're getting into.

I recently had to RMA my SeaSonic PSU, and they required me to include the RMA instructions in my broken PSU shipment to confirm I read & followed their packaging instructions and consented to their RMA policy.
I got a refurbished Vertex with some slight cosmetic imperfections, but I'm not going to make a Reddit post about it because I knew what I was getting into, and it's covered by the 12-year warranty of my original SeaSonic PSU.

You can thank the type of people who deliberately try to kill their RTX 3080 Ti to get a 4070 Ti RMA replacement or accelerate the burn-in in their OLED monitor before the 3-year warranty lapses for these less-than-ideal replacement policies.
It goes both ways. Shitty people make everyone else miserable.

>>108004484
Looks easily grippable with pliers, just make sure the pliers lie on the edge of the screw when you squeeze and turn slightly. Once you turn it should loosen much easier.

Also how fucking retarded are you to get it to this point

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What is the 'Wait™' status on Monitors?
2 more weeks until something worth boughting and using for the next 6 years?
OLED doesn't suit my usecase (monitors are left on 24/7).

>>108004544
There are no new LCD monitors to wait for in the near future.
You either pay the new Pulsar premium if you want that feature, or you wait a long time for LCD monitors with RGB miniLED local dimming zones.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuk6ohc3_vY

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>no new cards
>no cheap hardware from OpenAI crashing and burning

>>108004573
>OpenAI crashing and burning
did this actually happen while I was sleeping?
and if so, what does this mean for us AI ERPers?

>>108004590
Pretty sure he means 'in the future when'. Fabbers are making gaming-useless AI cards with all their fancy polished silicon and sun in a bottle X ray lithography monster machines, so when openAI does pop, all the hardware they forced into the world is useless for anything else

>>108004626
The best part is when that happens, they'll crawl back to the retail market with shit and piss in their pants while begging for my money. And I'll say "no".
Backstab me once.

Yes I'm sure we're all collectively going to turn up our noses and cross our arms voting with our wallet like good redditors when they graciously come crawling back begging for our business with a steep "we're sorry discount of $699 ram instead of $799 and $1300 gpus instead of $1500
We definitely all won't be chomping at the bit saying how we can't believe how cheap Ram is now while standardizing new consumer component prices, because that definitely hasn't happened before after the covid and bitcoin price increase

>>108004691
amerimutts literally voted for all this that is happening, you think that they will ever learn? lmao

Is the 9600X fine for gaming and potentially streaming with a mid-range GPU?

>>108004753
yes

microsoft lost $400 billion in market value today because it showed openai will account to 45% of their 2026 revenue (future cloud contracts)
this bubble is so ugly it's not even funny anymore, it's a bad taste joke

>>108004780
>openai will account to 45% of their 2026 revenue
how does that make sense? Just wtf is openai offering that will make the consumer match ms contracts?

>>108004794
it doesn't

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Quick reminder Genshin Impact makes more money than the entire AI meme.
And without the retarded black hole CAPEX.
Let that sink in for a second.

>update pc bios
>monitors dont wake after sleep and had to restart the pc to get them to work

why

>>108004806
china is going to win so hard this century it's not even funny, I'm thinking of learning mandarim like steve from gamers nexus

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>2 0 2 6
>try to use After Effects for minor work
>a static background with a couple of effects for a music visualizer video
>max our the RAM
>almost struggling to keep the PC from crashing
What a piece of shit software.

>>108004823
They won't win shit either though. 400M chinese over the age of 60 in 2035. And every 5 years it will be worse and worse. See how it went for Japan? They're about to live through it at 2x speed.

>>108004837
US is the same thing without immigration, all old white people

>>108004825
adobe + win = pain

>>108004807
sounds like it was because you updated your bios

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realistically what are the consequences of just silencing this warning and burying my head in the sand?

>>108004901
dead usb controller and ports

>>108004910
so if i disable onboard USB and buy a USB controller card that is a workaround?

>>108004914
prob

>>108004901
>what are the consequences of just silencing this warning and burying my head in the sand?
I had an old computer that had a permanently dead USB port because I plugged something faulty into it.

>>108004901
>realistically what are the consequences of just silencing this warning and burying my head in the sand?
WTF are you lugging into it anyway?
A USB coffee mug hot plate?

How important is the quantity of threads in a CPU nowadays?

>>108004943
sex dildo

>>108004945
not much. 16 is enough. fast cores are good. cache is great. estrogen cores don't count.

>>108004943
i just have my keyboard and mouse. i'm not sure why this popped up; i just turned on my computer and there it was. it went away after restarting.
i had to unplug my front panel IO about a year ago because it died and was giving me grief.

>>108004945
if you can get an 8 core instead of 6 you should do it, it's not important right now but they will age much better

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Are 2.1 speakers that get power from an USB port a bad idea? Can they zap my motherboard's shit up?

>>108004975
>Can they zap my motherboard's shit up?
If it's getting power from the PC, there is no circumstance where it should feed back into the system. It should be the same as any other peripheral.
I used to worry about speakers that get power from mains feeding back through the audio jack. In the event of a manufacturing fuck-up, that's far more worrying than USB power.

>>108004975
those usually have their own power supplies

Minimum CPUs to go with a 5090?

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>>108004753
The six-core count CPU FUD is generally overblown for gaming, unless it's some simulation or strategy games.

>>108005028
9800X3D, I would even suggest the 9850X3D if you're a hardware tuner (manual CPU & memory OCer).

>>108005020
>>108005022
>speakers that get power from mains feeding back through the audio jack
How do I find out if it's not doing that? It's been around through a few untimely hardware changes by now...

>>108005045
honestly 9850X3D is just a better (possibly more reliable) and higher quality 9800X3D. makes the 9800X3D kinda pointless. like the choice now is either a 7800x3d for "cheap", 7800x3d for a very good deal and just the 9850x3d for the best x3d chip there is.

>>108005082
7800x3d is the high-end gaming value oriented king, but if you're going balls deep with a 5090 you already threw out the concept of value so there's no reason to settle for anything less than the best.

9950x3d is an even better choice

>>108005088
i'm 50/50 on the 9950x3d cus only half of it has cache. gaybar and all that. doesn't just work.

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>>108002822
just repasted a 750 ti and an e6500 and deep cleaned a psu cooler and the gpu pci card and heatsink, notherboard and case. It's comfy here in 2014

>>108004935
is there a chance this kills my motherboard or other components?

>>108005108
things have gotten a lot better for the 16 core x3ds since the older gens, seems they've ironed out scheduling and it's now within 1% of the 9800x3d. There's little to no real-world benefit to putting cache on both dies but I could see the allure of it for a no-holds-barred build "just because" even if it has zero tangible benefit.

>>108005110
may burn your usb controller but it's rather low amp and voltage. it won't put a crater in your board. i would still try to figure out what the problem is. maybe it's just dirt or a broken cable.

>>108005028
the answer is the 9950X3D2 that comes out next month, obviously

Have any of you with a high end PC managed to monetize its processing power somehow?

>>108004544
2 more years

>>108005141
no. it's my pc. get your own one.

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chat my sata cable may be cooked...

>>108005186
what do you need sata cables for anyway

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bwos I need some opinions and help.. my older sister wants to give me her monitor for free after upgrading recently. is my 5060ti 16gb good enough for 1440p? and is a curved monitor hard to get used to? I'm really excited, but it's a big change to my comfy setup...
sisters monitor
>32 inch
>1440p
>240hz
>va panel
>curved
my current monitor
>25 inch
>1080p
>240hz
>tn panel
>flat

>>108005141
no but somebody's probably mining bitcoin with mine with all the sketchy porn games I'm playing

>>108005209
Frankly I think curved LCD monitors are dumb but despite that it sounds like a big upgrade from a 25" 1080p TN screen.

>>108005209
you will regret going to VA. VA is dogshit, even compared to TN. It has horrific ghosting. I legit had less ghosting on my first generation LCD from the 90s

>>108002829

As a 5080 owner this both makes me sad and laugh. My boy shouldn't be outperformed by the 4090.

>>108005209
VA panels are curved because of the poor viewing angles.
32" 1440p is really low ppi and thats annoying.
Depending on the model the dark transitions can be really slow, or if its one of the newer samsung panels it might be decent. it depends

The gpu relies on upscaling so 1440p is fine for it

>>108005209
32" 1440p isn't great, but it has a similar pixel density as your 1080p (around 91ppi).
Test the new monitor and keep your old one; your old one is better for competitive shooters.
5060 Ti's average 1440p gaming performance is listed in >>108005029

>>108005230
You bought it anyway, so NVIDIA knew what they were doing with the 5080's specs.

>>108005141
I do data analytics for smes using large models built in tensorflow/cuda typically using large databases dumped from mssql behind ERP systems using a tesla a100 40gb and a fibre san and blades it sits on a three phase power supply in a dedicated space in my home along with other shit I use need, like VMs for server products related to it that I'm looking at , I typically charge about 120,000 euro and it enables stuff like cross analysing seasonality on stock purchasing, salesmen and areas as well as managerial and staff fraud or theft or incompetence as well as occsionally malbractise by accounting teams. I don't do that using a desktop though because usinng a GPU in a desktop for work like that is simply dumb. I got the a100 cheap three years ago. Most of the stuff is written in python based on milling through tables in stuff like dynamics, sap, ecpicor, sage etc. If there is evidence of fraud or theft I charge more to assist with an investigation or set up reporting to identify such issues in future. Honestly even this kind of work is flattening out and dying as well due to service companies and it as much deep knowlege of ERP and accountinng systems. I work about two months a year and before you criticise me, I give half to charity and I can't remember the last time I even bought something new, always seemed so wasteful. It's very stressful work and you have to be VERY careful what you say and who to and know how to wear a suit. I made a lot of money on the binace trading API about six years ago as well but that's been dead space for a while and is never going to be viable now, they are crawling with very competeitive algos with a lot of power behind them now. There is fuck all you can do with a new build hi spec desktop that is worth a fuck although I suspect a lot of them are used to generate kiddy porn for the darknet and evil shit like that

>>108005209
it's a good upgrade and the card can handle it

>>108005028
Depends on desired resolution/settings.

>>108005186
Honestly the contacts seem fine if you could keep it plugged in, but I would get a new one

I haven't been paying attention since the mining days but why did Nvidia crippled the 5060 and 5050 so hard with x8 bus?
like dude even the 16gb is x8 wtf were they thinking?

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>>108005222
>>108005229
>>108005238
>>108005243
>>108005260
Thanks bwos, oh and it's a samsung g7 monitor if that paints a better picture. I'm really excited to try it. My current monitor has really bad ghosting, so i'm used to that either way. Thank you again for the responses bwos

>>108005294
Meh PCI fast af these days

>>108005336
just configure the overdrive setting and the mprt and the dark smear gets much better

>>108005336
240hz 1080p tn panel has ghosting?
Those are typically the esport monitor specs
is it some extreme budget model?

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>>108005345
oh yeah, I turn my response time to just normal mode on my current monitor to avoid the really bad ghosting. it's fine normally.
>>108005347
it's an alienware one from about 8 or 9 years ago bwo. so pretty old now

>>108005294
Just my thoughts on it, I can see bitcoin collapsing as the haveninng coputing cost rises resulting in network death and making attacks viable. It';s been a curse to DLT adoption anyway which is a pretty cool technology that is sadly still used for utter bullshit and scam token by jeets and sumbags in dubai. I guess it will be a big event when it happens and the pheonic that rises from teh ashes with be actual DLT adoption and usage.

TLDR Get the fuck out of Bitcoin and ETH etc as speculation over the next few years. It will all come crashing down

So that 9800x3d burnout shit isnt happening on gigabyte right?
Im a little spooked to put this thing together

>>108003503
Yep. I ordered a "restocking" PNY 5060 Ti 16Gb about two weeks ago but the shop went from "restocking" to "unavailable" while downplaying the event wen I opened a ticket. I managed to get a hold of PNY Europe myself and the rep told me "we're out of shit and giving priority to 8Gb models for now".

I've been on /pcbg/ the whole time and seen the rumors so he didn't have to tell me twice. Canceled my order and considering myself outerfucked.

Well, I was "upgrading" from a 4060 because I wanted to secure those 16Gb for the next three years though so it's not the worst drama ever. I don't play AAA or new releases because I missed on the whole PS4/PS5 era so I have a shit-town to catch-up for the next decade anyway and the 4060 can do that just fine.

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>got memed into doing ultra 265k and rtx 5070 build by shills in this thread
>out of vram warnings on new single player games when I try and put textures to ultra
>have to play with muddy medium textures instead
>cpu is dogwater on battlefield 6 and escape from tarkov the two multiplayer shooters i play. Especially on tarkov there is just constant stutters on the streets map.
>mfw
This pc is so bad it makes me want to kill myself, fuck you all. I originally wanted to do a 9070 and 7800x3d but you faggots tricked me that 5070 software was somehow worth more than actually having enough vram for 1440p and 265k was a "way better cpu all round". Now im stuck waiting 5 years for neural meme textures that will never come and for dd5 8000 mhz ram to come down in price to fix my 265k with

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>>108005420
literally hundreds out of MILLIONS sold have died. It's nothing, just like the raptor lake drama. Don't get fearmongered by engagement seeking techdrama bullshit, build the 9800x3d. You'll be fine.

>>108005429
nicotroon has finally set his sights upon the humble 5070.

How retarded will this general think me to be if I get the noctua dh15s vs a cheaper thermalright?

>>108005448
the problem with noctua is that it doesnt fit in a lot of cases and ofc it's stupidly expensive

>265k was a "way better cpu all round".
The 285k dougheverbeit...

>>108005484
i don't get those new intel cpus. like a tuned 14900k with it's estrogen cores off and a nice oc and monolithic die is much better for gaming + better memory support. what is the point of those new cpus?

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Let me guess, RTX6000 will be yet a meaningless improvement in rasterization, and they'll add some [insert marketing name] bullshit dedicated "cores" so it runs DLSS 5.0 6x better than the previous card, and ooops totally ONLY for the new card and definitely couldn't be done with the existing computing units which jib is precisely to compute shit in parallel, and has been doing so since forever.

>>108005501
power efficiency greatly improved since they moves to TSMC's silicon. Most people aren't going to give a shit if their pc draws a 50-100 less watts under load though.

In 2026 intel only makes sense for desktop for fanboys/people who hate amd for some reason

they somehow have laptop market conrnered despite using their old shitty nodes, so Idk how amd didnt capture the market with more efficient tsmc soc's

>>108005532
because intel has all the deals with laptop oems to use their processors instead of ayymd. it's not that deep.

>>108005448
bought a used dh15 for 45€ last week, unfortunately doesnt fit inside my build, but even if i gut it, the 2 fans themself are 25€ each

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What is the go-to borderline-braindead Linux solution these days? As in, not totally dumbed down, but more-or-less functional out of the box?

>>108005558
steamos but everything still hinges on nvidia not releasing open source drivers

>>108005549
Damn local I assume?
Most hardware for sale where I live is junk

>>108005532
nah even i (someone with a 7800x3d) can see a reason to buy a 14900k. those cpus oc great, have great memory support, can be tuned well and would give you more even performance in most applications. like some games don't care at all about x3d. it's most optimized games that actually benefit from them. but this is just gayming in 2026. like pure frequency and single core with estrogen cores off + a monolithic die and low latencies is the last cpu that is going to do all of that.
>>108005558
>>108005563
just buy an amd gpu. even the open driver they have is crap.

How should I feel about magnetic front panels

>>108005582
*unoptimized

Hows the montech king 95 pro?
It seems to have all the fans it needs

>>108005514
Except you're describing what happened with AMD Radeon FSR4.

>>108005501
>better memory support
Lol

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>>108005581
The internet is flooded with these.
And the d15 was 80€ new pre covid, Thermalright has its place but people bitching on noctua being pricey are just dumb desu
Remember kids, air coolers don go bad
and a nickle plated one will even survive the dishwasher

>>108005626
heat pipes don't last forever but you can expect at least 30 years out of it.

>>108005620
you try running 8000mhz+ on ryzen

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>>108005653
nta but there's just no point to since ryzen bandwidth caps out at like 70-80gb/s due to infinity fabric. AMD memory controller is as good as it needs to be at this point. They better raise the bar with zen 6 though.

>>108005514
first process node improvement in 2 gens and mostly developed in an era where nvidia is the most valuable company on the planet with unlimited resources. anything less than a huge leap will be a disappointment, personally hope it is actually because i boughted a 5090

>>108005662
i know that but the 14900k can just run stupid ram speeds. which is why i said that it has better support for memory.

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>>108005677
and im just saying amd's memory controller being able to handle 8000mhz wouldn't make it any "better".

>>108005696
yeah but if you want to run high frequency ram and tune it just like the rest of the system the 14900k is like one of the best options. it has a great memory controller that can handle it.

>>108003669
>so what's the solution to these power cables burning out?
Other than refusing to buy a 12VHPWR card, der8auer sells an attachment for your 2x6 called the WireView Pro II. It monitors the amperage on each power line individuality and if it exceeds a limit an alarm will sound. You can set it to even turn off your PC if the power exceeds the limit for long enough. There is no fix for this connector, it's a terrible design but nvidia has doubled down on it. Your only hope is someone dies from a house fire caused by the 12VHPWR and the EU bans the connector.

https://youtu.be/qBd7_uxrq6c

Someone was crazy enough to actually buy one of those "cheap" MicroLED TVs. ~$60,000. Did actual testing.

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>>108005706
If you win the silicon lottery.
Most of these CPUs cap out at 7200 MT/s on a 4-DIMM board, 6800MT/s if you're unlucky.

>>108005719
man that's so cool, i want one for my 5080 even though i don't need it...

>>108005677
I was just implying the 285k imc is better and can use the cudimms

>>108005514
If they are smart they will market the next generation as PTX 6000, with "P" denoting "Path tracing" that would be significantly improved so that running it in 4k becomes enjoyable. My 4090 can run it in Cyberpunk but FPS leave much to be desired. They probably won't increase VRAM with the next gen, like they didn't from RTX3000 to RTX 4000 and all cards will be more costly than ever of course.

And there already exists a GPU branded "RTX 6000" btw.

>>108005727
that's just life.
>>108005731
at the cost of higher latencies just because of the fundamental design of the cpu.

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>>108005731
i dont think the 285k has an imc, i think it's a glorified northbridge shitlet controller just like ryzen now...

is zero rpm a meme?

>>108005779
yes

>>108005779
they should give you a switch to turn the meme off.

>>108005706
>it has a great memory controller
no one who has actually tried overclocking memory on raptor lake thinks that
it's sufficient

Should I just get an o11 vision to match my evo?

>>108005795
what is the alternative?

>>108005467
Even if it fits, you are no longer able to see/reach/service anything around the socket, like cable headers or DIMM slots, without dismounting it. This just sucks and it's a great relief to get an AIO. I will never go back.

>>108005804
the nh-d15s in my old rocket lake build doesn't prevent me from changing ram even on a micro-atx motherboard. Though the fan header near the cpu is a bit hard to reach.

As always it depends what you actually get.

My current cooler is an aio and the pump is xbox hueg (kraken elite) and prevents me from easily mounting ram cooling.

>>108005804
i usually build my pc once and with ptm7950 there is no need to service anything anymore. it's a one and done deal. the system is going to run for forever. no pump and no water.

>>108005788
>>108005792
it seems ridiculous to me that they're pushing this feature even on psus.

>>108005801
arrow lake has the best IMC of course
DDR5-9000 just by putting in a few numbers in the BIOS
ryzen seems similar to raptor lake but less temperamental

>value of my am4 parts almost offsets the markup for brand new top end stuff
Its getting tempting, wonder how long itll be until we get the dual ccd chips

>>108005826
>arrow lake
>non monolithic
>higher latency
not really an alternative.

>>108005826
if you dont mind shitlet latency that's way worse than even amd's implementation then it's great yeah

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>Please buy Arrow Lake you get WoW Midnight for free

>>108005839
>>108005843
the interconnect isn't the memory controller
i didn't say you were supposed to buy it because it has a better IMC, ryzen APUs do higher memory speeds than the regular chips but that's not a reason to buy them

Whats the best value x80 card now? I dont care if I need to buy used. My last 2 cards are 980 and 3080.

>>108005532
That's called corruption

>>108005420
Dude, you can reduce the likelihood of burning your CPU significantly just by being reasonable with your OC settings in UEFI. Don't crank up the PBO scalar that drives up the voltages beyond factory default stress levels. Leave it on 1 to maximize the life expectancy of your processor. And update your UEFI before installing your CPU.

>>108005861
well sure at least arrow lake can benefit from the 9000mhz and latency isn't as simple as interconnect anyway, GB/s is a factor. For higher sized transfers, arrow lake can have lower latency than even monolithic cpus. People tend to just use first word ns when they refer to latency.

>>108005864
9070xt

>>108005779
I don't buy shit it if doesn't have a zero RPM mode. Simple as.

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>>108005230
t. 4090 owner

>>108005864
just get a 5080 but know it's technically a 5070. Just like the 4080 is effectively a 4070. The 3080 was the last "true" 80 but it's a bit of a dinosaur now so i wouldn't recommend it.

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>>108005864
>Nvidia
>Best Value
kek

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>>108005864
3080/ti

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>>108005912
>>108005899
it is what it is.
maybe if they had competition...

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>>108002829
Who says AI can't produce great text? Chapeau!

>>108005881
Yeah a lot of people don't understand how wacky 9000MT can be, everyone just shouts buzzwords and pretends they have real world experience.

>>108005927
>>108005927
>>108005927

>>108005912
50 class bros stay winning!

>>108002873
> mimimi
> there are no good games mimimi
You can't make me believe that you already played ALL good games that were published to date. Please stop spreading this nonsense meme, it's embarrassing.