How much would the equipment in this room cost.
>>108003304in America?$3 billionin the first world?about €2 million
>>108003304Depends on how much memory chips are in it
>>108003304Don't do it Tyrone
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What does this room do? What is it for?
>>108003361Circumcisions
IT'S NOT LUPUS
he needs Mouse bites
>>108003456"why are you black?"
I work at a hospitalan ICU bed costs like 25 grand depending on the service contact
>>108003304Very realistic totalLow end: ~$250kTypical: $400k – $700kHigh / fully loaded: $900k+
apparently these lights can cost over 50k
>>108003304>ceiling-mounted LED surgical light>$60,000>ceiling equipment booms (2x articulated arms with power/gas/data)>$240,000>ceiling monitor arm>$8,000>anaesthesia machine / ventilator>$180,000>primary patient monitor (multi-parameter)>$45,000>secondary bedside monitor>$12,000>infusion pumps (~8 channels)>$36,000>wall suction regulators (3x)>$3,600>powered emergency stretcher (Stryker-class)>$40,000>mattress and positioning pads>$3,500>crash cart (fully stocked)>$28,000>defibrillator>$25,000>equipment trolley (stainless steel)>$3,000>supply cart (drawer unit)>$5,000>wall-mounted clinical display>$6,000>wall phones (2x)>$1,200>nurse call / control panels>$2,500>wall diagnostic set (otoscope / ophthalmoscope)>$4,000>wall BP unit>$1,200>thermometer station>$1,000>glove dispensers / sharps / wall holders>$2,000>visible IV fluids, tubing, suction canisters>$3,000>wall cabinets and storage>$8,000>stool and minor furniture>$2,000>local power / gas / safety infrastructure>$35,000>integration, commissioning, compliance (~15%)>$120,000>total equipment cost (approx)>$935,000 USD>range depending on vendor and configuration>$850,000 – $1,100,000 USD>tfw sell this stuff
Even the clock is like $2000 because it's medical grade
>>108003763what makes a clock medical grade?
>>108003304give it back jamal
>>108003787it's body fluid proof, atomic synced, IR leds
bout tree fiddy
>>108003304the software alone is probably 10s of millions a yearfuck Epic Systems and their bloat.
>>108003304Before or after the supplier sells it to the hospital? Because there's like a 4000% markup during that middle layer.
>>108003761What are the profit margins on medical equipment?
>>108003304usecase?
>>108006915Pretty generous, but probably it as huge as one might expect. Medical equipment has three factors that drive up costs. The first is the cost of certification for medical use. This second is that medical devices need to make design choices normal equipment wouldn’t. A lot of it needs to sterilisable in an autoclave (several hundred degree steam), or resilient to the disinfectants used. They can’t have areas that cannot be cleaned easily (you don’t want nasty, infectious patient gunk building up in keyboards or crevices). Some equipment also needs to be hardened against patients not in their right minds. The third is that this kind of equipment oftentimes is used for multiple decades, so it must be serviceable on site, and capable of enduring being shuttled around a busy hospital, dropped, bumped into walls, attacked by insane patients, and so on. It can’t fail in such a way it’d endanger a patient either, or you’d get sued big time, which means expensive complex power supplies, lots of protection circuitry, redundancies and self-testing. It also should be designed to minimise or eliminate potential mistakes in use. While a nurse or doctor SHOULD use the tech correctly, oftentimes they’re overworked, and so you should make sure important shit only plugs in one way, and there’s sensible interlocks and warnings.
is this an infuser?think I recall having one plugged into my arm at some pointnot for morphine or anything fun, and it took 18 hours before I could leave
>>108007001Very interesting stuff anon. I worked at a company whose software was considered a medical device, but i dont remember much except for our git repos needed to be auditable so we could keep our iso certs.
>>108003343How do you even fence medical gear lol? What shitheap hospitals are buying things from the black market?
>>108003304more than you're entire bloodlne will ever see
>>108007001>you don’t want nasty, infectious patient gunk building up in keyboards or crevices).but what i do?
>>108003761>anon sells his stools
>>108003761>some metal with some hinges>$240kdamn no wonder healthcare is expensive
>>108003304The big light ALONE is $10,000https://www.maxim-med.com/product/berchtold-e668-dual-surgical-light-system/
I assume at this point this is all hollywood accounting>hey what if we charge 10x for treatment, overnight stay, drugss, equipment and just have the insurance pay whatever we hash out with them in the backroom>this way we can bleed our clients dry, justify it with miscallineous costs we outsourced and we all make 10x more money!
>>108007231millions of americans are in critical care at home cause they dont wanna pay $50,000 a week to stay in an emergency room. thats why home medical websites exist. you can buy everything in ops pic for beaucoup $$$ online and it's STILL cheaper than a hospital stay.
>>108007047bd infusion pump
>>108009375They don't work it out in a backroom, hospital groups are corporations and gouge because they know insurance is forced to pay it. Same reason they gouge medicare. Hospitals HATE self-payers. Insurance thusly hikes rates and denies coverage. It's completely rotten from the distributors to the hospitals to the insurance bottom to top.
>>108003761>>ceiling-mounted LED surgical light>>$60,000It's such a scam. That light is maybe 2000 dollars BOM cost max.
>>108003304why is it every girl's wet dream to work in this room? e.g. nurses, doctors, and the like
>>108003304I'm not sure, but any American posters in this thread will receive a $24,000 bill for daring to look at this equipment in a photograph.
>>108003475This vexes him.
>>108003761How is the ceiling boom structure that expensive? I understand it needs to take a lot of torque and not wobble and so needs a stupidly heavy duty construction, but ultimately it's just structural steel mechanisms. How can those be that costly?
I work in a hospital and all this shit is a scam. If the medical industry was truly a free market that whole room should cost less than $100k. Even at those high prices it still breaks down all the time, rusts and is made of flimsy tonka-truck plastic. You'd think for the high price something like that infusion pump would have a spinning gyroscope built in to prevent tipping.
>>108009455>$50,000 a week to stay in an emergency roomah, the price of freedom
what's that, americans complaining about getting robbed blind by healthcare industry? how unamerican of (You)
>>108011882If you can get away with charging more, then you'd just charge more.I don't remember the exact explanation, but they've created a situation where they'll pay for it no matter what, something something about insurance + legal that makes $80 door hinges and the like into a real thing.
