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how many of you can reverse a linked list?

>>108017212
kid, this is the employed thread not the larping college student thread

repostan
>meeting with cio
>"yeah so basically we expect all teams to become 50% faster with claude code"
>"whoever writes a single line of code is wasting their time, and we don't want you guys to fall behind other devs right?"
lol, is it time to jump ship?
or this is the world of software development now?

>>108017238
leave it to millennials / gen x to be soulless condescending resentful faggots
some of us still have love for the game

>>108017263
I don't care what you love
you have 30+ other threads in this shitty dead board to larp about your CS101-tier exercises, this thread is explicitly not the place for it

>>108017274
ill take that as a no, you cannot reverse a linked list

>>108017274
Can I still post in /twg/ if I retire?
I'm close

>>108017278
Kek

>>108017281
no, when you make it you will sadly have to leave

>>108017291
Ok then I'll keep a small side "startup" business going on paper

tfw no twg bf

>>108017328
oh, or gf. that would be fine, too

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What's the biggest fuck up you've made at work?

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>>108017371
reloaded the wrong line card on a core router once for a tier 1 ISP backbone.

I will never again have that much power in my life. I had the ability to take down 1/5 of the world internet at the time.

>just found out the creator of a shitty library my past company was using and annoying via support emails created the currently most hyped ai tool
Lmao
You guys ever have any "small world" moments like these?

>>108017371
1 month into my first IT job I deleted the CIO's AD account by mistake kek

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i've really gotta fuck off to thailand or something, lads. this job is killing me.

>>108017371
None, I've never made any serious mistake because I'm cautious.

>>108017577
this, but unironically

if I was born a foid I would have a 500k tc job at google right now

>>108017643
what's stopping you?

>>108017669
I wasn't born a foid so I'm at the back of the line and I have to be a perfect candidate competing with other perfect candidates

>>108017678
it's not too late to switch teams :)

Janny banned us again

I want utwg back

>>108017796
that's what i'm dsoing you fuckin gfaggot, am i supposed to be a monk and not talk to anyone while on my journey, too?

>>108017796
>Why you are even on /g/ if you are unemployed?
is this some form of irony/trolling? if not, what the fuck is wrong with people in this board?
you clearly are one of those who are in tech for the money and not because of vocation or love for technical stuff.
why don't you fuck off?

>>108017856
>A+
oh its the furfag sperging out again

just filter out "A+"

>>108017853
finding a job is literally impossible dude even normalfags are crying

I was going to buy a Tesla Model X soon(tm) since it’s over 6000 lbs and a tax write off but now Melon announced they are axing S and X production next quarter
Anybody here have a Model X?
Currently diving a Model 3 Performance and I’ve really liked it

life is already miserable why do schizophrenic retards have to shit up every general I enjoy

>>108017957
the price you pay by having no moderation...

>>108017976
well, he got his shit deleted kek
either jannies visit this general or some anons reported him. either way, that's great. thanks jannies and mods.

>>108018031
not everyone started off jobless? we have years of tech experience and might not hve a job currently while looking for a new one. I had a job for 4 years in tech and recently left because of shit management

>>108018092
there's literally nothing furry about that image at all wtf are you talking about

you are fucking retarded

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>>108017371
It wasn't me but this annoying fag coworker who was new was upgrading this professor's PC and was supposed to run the backup script I made before doing it but he didn't correctly run it and her entire 10 years worth of work was deleted. No idea why she didn't back it up but she came into our area screaming and crying while my boss and him had to listen and apologize while I pretended to be doing stuff on my computer. They sent her drive to a data recovery center, no idea what happened to it as I left shortly thereafter. They were really retarded about that whole process.

>>108018409
my sys admin job is just resetting some counter in their in house system to zero and doing password reset type activities over and over and helping 50 IQ warehouse workers with IT problems like "i forgot my password" or "I cant find *name of one of our inventory apps* on my computer"


54k TC WFH

seems upper management wants some attrition
they are forcing one more day at the office

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>>108017203
>working in tech

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Asking here too, since I asked at end of last thread.

Is it worth it to get an associates degree in application development? I have a bachelor's in English, and perhaps it is time I learn to code....

I guess the real questions are, for any app developers, SWEs, code monkeys etc...

>what does the majority of your working day look like?
>do you like your work?
>would you recommend this field to anyone?
>what is a good way to gauge if this is the field for me

Also, I have done some tech projects on my own and had a lot of fun. I did make a Bash script where you input a hash string or a text file of hashes, a dictionary of common passwords, and then select a hashing algorithm (sha256, sha1, md5). The script then hashes each password and sees if that output is the same as tge given hashes, finding the original term(s) that made that hash. :)

>>108018795
no, an associate's is worthless in this field. especially one in "application development"
BSc in CS or go home

>>108018795
>it is time I learn to code....
lol
lmao

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>>108018822
Looking at the course, it seems more focused on web development.
>>108018834
I am a bit tarded...

>>108018839
Nigga fuck off we're full

I have a year of experience as a software dev. Thinking about leaving my current job because, while I do like my coworkers, my boss talks a lot of shit behind people's backs and I have a feeling he does the same for me. He's also been promising me a raise and I'm already underpaid as is so I kinda want to jump ship because I genuinely do not believe he has my best interest in mind. Would it be difficult to find a job? I have a bachelors in CS as well

>>108018914
>>>/g/utwg

>>108018839
i don't care what the course says, and neither will the hiring managers. what matters is what the title on your degree says

>>108017328
same. But i just want company so even a neet would do
>>108018795
>Is it worth it to get an associates degree in application development?
Most employers seem to want even total noobs to have a BS. If you have a decent personal portfolio that shows experience then certifications arent required but even then i still think employers want to see a degree on your resume. My father had a bachelors in chemistry and not a single IT certification and yet he'd get hired for unix admin positions so its possible
>what does the majority of your working day look like?
Completely self-driven. At my last job they'd give me bullshit tasks like "automate network failover" without considering the existence of network routing protocols so i hated it since i legit thought my employers were retarded. At my current job there are goals but im basically given free reign to do whatever the fuck that i want and it actually makes things enjoyable enough that i work more than i should
>do you like your work?
My current job, yes, i love it and i love finding my own things to code and test. I get paid less than i did before yet find work to be more enjoyable. I think i might enjoy it too much as i happily work 14 hour days on my own voalition
>would you recommend this field to anyone?
Only if you have a strong passion for it and actually enjoy it. If you hate writing code or you hate debugging or solving problems then I don't think you should get into it
>what is a good way to gauge if this is the field for me
If a venn diagram of what you do as a hobby and what you do (or want to do) for work is a near perfect circle. Even if i was jobless, i'd still be writing code.
>>108018938
>I have a year of experience as a software dev
>Would it be difficult to find a job?
Don't just quit like a dumbass and expect to find work quickly. I made that mistake in early 2019 and was unemployed the entire year. Keep your job and look for new employment while you are still employed

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>>108019062
Help desk can be fully of nerdy people with similar interests.
>>108019088
This is good advice anon. Idk what I like doing for fun, I never really coded for fun but I also struggled to find time for fun starting in HS.
I mostly focused on school, and any time not on school or sports was on video games, 4chan, or tv/movies. Sometimes reading.

I think what I need to do is try to code some junk on my own and see if I like it outside of a context of "learn this shit to study."

I really like making my Bash script, but looking back on it now, its pretty short and amateurish lol

My study plan is to read a book on Powershell and maybe Batch scripting then decide if I want to do coding or more networking junk or possibly something else. Still trying to figure out life

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>>108019062
>>108019111
Also besides the coworkers, the work can be satisfying. It feels really good to set up and cable a desk with clean cabling. It feels good to close out easy tickets and see your numbers go up. It feels good to be given a problem, find a solution, and make a user happy their shit works again. It's fun to work on hardware stuff, like swap batteries or drives.

>>108019127
You asked about satisfying or fulfilling. Help Desk can be that, but it doesn't pay super well.

I'm not sure if your own place would be a wise financial decision. Have you considered being an IT field technician? You basically get service calls to different businesses and go and fix a computer or two. Probably more hardware focused.

>>108019111
>I really like making my Bash script, but looking back on it now, its pretty short and amateurish lol
i started as a network engineer and migrated to automation engineering dev work in python. Trust me, its completely normal to look at something you did a few years ago and actually be embarassed by how sloppy it is. I fucking cringe at some of my old projects just because of the way i went about it. Its part of the learning process and totally normal. You need to find something to work on, making your life easier is a pretty good start. I have a cousin who i think has a degree in business or something and in the past year he got into python just to automate his own job. I think that is a good start.

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>>108019152
ye
I want to try to automate some junk in my current job (help desk) or at least use the CLI more to feel like an 1337 h4ck3r

>>108019088
>Don't just quit like a dumbass and expect to find work quickly
I know, I'm not gonna quit. I just feel like my boss is trying to put a carrot in front of me by telling me he wants to give me a raise and then he's just gonna extract as much value out of me until I eventually grow impatient and then he'll come up with a reason to fire me. I genuinely believe he doesn't like me behind my back even though around me he's very nice and laughs a fair amount when we talk

>>108017203
>Install new update that makes client's workflow substantially worse with minimal benefits
I feel like shit
>>108017371
Not forcing my manager to stop said update

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>>108017203
>No point in learning programming anymore, per Sam Altman

>"Learning to program was so obviously the right thing in the recent past. Now it is not."

- Sam Altman, commenting on skill to survive the AI era.

>"Now you need High agency, soft skills, being v. good at idea generation, adaptable to a rapidly changing world"


https://x.com/i/status/2017421923068874786

What are /g/'s thoughts on this sentiment?

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>>108019445
lol

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>>108019445
I'm more of a tourist, and I agree and disagree.

I do not think AI will fully replacing programming, but I think a lot of programming will be prompting AI to make the bulk of it, then having to tweak/modify it to make it work without errors. So it will still require knowledge of a language, its syntax, what works/doesn't work, good coding practices etc.

I think what "programming" will change, and it will require people to be good at idea generation, good at adaptability, but it will still require core skills of shit like, good/bad coding practices, what is/isn't efficient, or even safe, and generally shit you learn in school or with your own projects.

>>108019482
shut the fuck up retard

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>>108019489
sowwy :<

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why are some of my coworkers incredibly dismissive of llms and reluctant to use claude code even though the company is footing the bill?

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>>108019522
well it does make you stupider

>>108017526
My new relationship ended so this one is an option for me again. Im thinking of blasting tren first to maximize my physical potential though. Then kms 10 years from now

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My new plan is to combine phoneposting with programming, how would you anons achieve this?
AIslop obviously makes it easier, but there's still the issue of corrections and compilation. I know there's happy and now openclaw, so I was thinking in that direction, but it still feels lackluster.

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I keep getting these but not using it

>>108020011
How can you? How is anyone supposed to have a 5 year plan when the economy has been and will be in shambles for the foreseeable future

>looking for new job
>quick introductory call with the hiring team (30 mins)
>okay
>get on, there's 6 managers on the call
>everyone gives a quick intro then I give mine
>one of them just goes on about how much the job will suck for 5 minutes
>Also its not the job I applied for because they combined two jobs into one
I ended up getting a year extension on my contract anyway but this isn't the first time I've had an interview with people who clearly don't want to hire someone
I've noticed it at my own company too
We're objectively in need of more people but the seniors rejected a promising 4.0 new grad because they
>didn't know that one thing about enums

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I can't process this shit.

>>108021036
>I can't process this shit.
who could possibly benefit from the total destruction of every western country?

>>108017203
lol

>>108019445
>>"Now you need High agency, soft skills
he knows a lot about this. he's never actually done anything other than suck dicks for $billions and grift.

>>108021036
she's still following the neoliberal script of "massively poor country is the future" while ignoring the evidence that shows that india is a shit country. also, as long as there is money (or some potential), she doesn't give a shit about what you or anyone else might think.
leading classes are obsessed with getting cheap, almost-slave labor. they realized china was a mistake and now want to replace it with india.

wow this general is terrible
as soon as I get a tech job im never coming back here

What kind of domain gives the most job satisfaction?

>>108021735
The domain you also pursue as a hobby

>>108021806
enough people said that doing this ruined it as a hobby for them
you want one that has purpose beyond making money and making yourself content.

I have a kinda dumb but serious question:
I've been wondering if tech workers will be replaced by AI in the coming years, I hear people saying that and I don't know who to believe.

Do you think AI will create new jobs for us or will it simply make us useless?

Im asking because Im just a noob student for now.

>>108021827
>doing this ruined it as a hobby for them
Not doing it ruined it for them, but being burned out. Obviously just doing the thing you love is not sufficient, you have to balance it well too

>>108021918
Right now ai is at the level of an incredibly fast semi-Smart boilerplate generator
Basically it effectively manages to kill codemonkeys, but nothing beyond. Any attempts at autonomy without massive amounts of handholding failed miserably.

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im about to sign into my work computer on a saturday
not because i have to but because i actually enjoy work. I built a 3U server with a supermicro mobo, 128gb of ram (LRDIMM), 22 cores just to test a production stack deployment on physical hardware (without telling a soul) and i just added an nvidia p40 to the server and want a dedicated container running vLLM

I was given an api key for AI hosted in azure for MCP testing and production but... i want it locally. I want to run the model locally. I'm signing into my work computer just to re-configure a production stack deployment, document it, and test it.
>>108021806
>The domain you also pursue as a hobby
this
>>108021827
>enough people said that doing this ruined it as a hobby for them
the only way my work "ruined" this as a hobby is that i enjoy working so much that i have put off personal programming projects to work. Sure, the server i mentioned could be considered a "personal project" but its entire construction was for work testing. I have a basic bitch HP slim shitbox that operates as a NAS, emby server, and automation run server. I dont plan on replacing it with what i just built anytime soon; i actually think what i built is overkill and i'd rather power the thing off then let it run and replace my HP slim shitbox. I don't hate working though. I'v been programming for work for about 5 years now and still love every minute of it, even when its stressful or something doesnt work like i think it would, I still enjoy it
>>108021918
AI cant even replace a veteran book editor. I know because i know book editors and have talked to them about the process and issues they tackle and i dont think AI can do it. AI can correct grammar, but thats not the same thing as digging into the source of every reference used in a book and correcting imperfections.

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Any Angular pros here?
My next job will include Angular amog other things. They use ngxs or something like that. Is it hard to learn?
I did React for a couple of years so state management and redux like solutions are easy to grasp for me, but I'm kind of afraid of rxjs and signals and all that shit.

>>108021918
only noob students will be replaced

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can zoomers even adapt to modern work culture?

>>108022480
>SEE SEE
>ZOOMERS BAD!
>WE NEED 1 BILLION JEETS IMMEDIATELY
stop playing into their propaganda

>>108023227
The aliens had their own equivalent productivity and collaboration technology integrated into their ships.

I think my boss perceives I have a crazy high ego because he glazes me all the time and I almost think it’s because he’s trying to motivate me to do more work for the same price

>>108017203
Is the IT job market equally as fucked as development right now? I graduated with a degree in computer engineering in 2022 and quit three months into my first software job because I hated the people I was surrounded by and have been working in a completely unrelated field since. I don't see myself ever working in development again, but I'm still interested in IT/Security.

>What are your salary expectations?
should I give a range, fixed number, or stfu?

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oh so the unemployed are here again. a pity.

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just remember monday is just around the corner

>>108021974
>not because i have to but because i actually enjoy work.
thats good effort, but you need to be more cunning. work on the weekend, but in away that actually works for you. aka personal projects, study, or overemployment.

>>108023567
snow day, and WFHchads get the day off if RTOchuds get the day off

>>108023581
>snow day
what is this? middle school?

>>108023227
throughs the marvels of jewish manual labor. no one is better at back breaking hard physical work

>>108023588
Califags and New Englanders are just jealous their infrastructure doesn't come to a complete halt for a light snowstorm so everyone can get a siesta from work

>>108017212
grown-up answer: i can - by invoking a method that that will do this for me

>>108017278
see above

>>108018795
>>what does the majority of your working day look like?
writing code, writing tests for my code, reviewing someone else's code. what you'd expect. but some amount of coordination is required, ultimately it's a team sport, even if most of it is done on your own
>>do you like your work?
yep>>would you recommend this field to anyone?
i would recommend it to anyone with patience. development is fine-grain work so you will have to apply a lot of corrections to what you're writing

>>what is a good way to gauge if this is the field for me
patience. having the discipline to organize your code properly might also be helpful. would you mind building a real world house out of legos with others? if you would, stay away

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>>108021036
she's doing what she does because you let her.

>>108021918
>I've been wondering if tech workers will be replaced by AI in the coming years, I hear people saying that and I don't know who to believe.
AI will make the most unmotivated employees unemployed because the more motivated devs will be able to achieve more in less time
AI wont make the top 50% or whatever redundant because they will still write the code, AI-assisted, and review the AI code and adapt it into more readable and maintainable code base. they will also continue to be the storages of knowledge of the overall structure of the code, it's inner workings, etc

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>>108023593
>be me, a spaniard who works from home in america
>take a siesta mid workday everyday anyway

>>108023736
in fact, I just woke up an hour ago and finally finished my espressos, i think ill take a nap

>>108019522
Lots of devs are midwits who think they are far more intelligent than they actually are
Also they think that LLMs are still buggy 2023 tech

>>108021918
>Do you think AI will create new jobs for us or will it simply make us useless?
It's just replacing jobs
Right now, it's replacing juniors/new grads
In a few years, it will be replacing everyone below staff

>>108023759
some of us really are 10x devs who do things the LLMs couldn't dream of, though

>>108023785
I'm yet to meet any of these supposed geniuses.
Most of the devs I'm talking about are turbo midwits from no-name schools who think that 10 YoE = 150 IQ

>>108023791
hi, you've just met one

>>108023847
Highly unlikely
Far more likely I've met another overconfident midwit

I'm going to level I don't know how to do anything with git other than stash -> pull -> unstash -> commit -> push and every time I need to do something else it takes up a solid 30 minutes of my day. I don't think anyone else on my team does either though since the project is 4 years old and only has 2 branches

>>108023864
that's a non issue in 2026.
llm will tell you what to do in 30s.
there's no need to know how git works anymore.

>>108023874
This is unironically the only thing I use llms for. Whenever I need it for questions about code it's usually stuff that's too obscure and it gets it wrong

>>108023736
>>108023743
based, I hope you're in a comfy part of the country for siestaing

>>108023947
im in texas, i ended up just laying in bed and rolling a joint. im gonna smoke it now and play guitar for a few hours

>>108023781
So what can we do, anon?

>no degree
>5 yoe (got my last job in 2023 when the market wasnt shit)
>struggling to get a job now (low interview rate + all the interviews I get are leetcode bullshit)
does anyone honestly think going to college at this point for a cs bachelors would help me in the slightest

>>108024443
People with a degree and experience are struggling, I don't know what to tell you in all honesty.

>>108024443
i'm in a very similar boat.
i'll try to hold on to my job.

>>108023785
But you can still use it to speed you up.

>>108024443
real talk you think youre better than you are. you think youre owed a job when you cant even pass the "leetcode bullshit" interviews. the answer is staring you right in the face. youre already getting interviews, but instead of reflecting why youre not suceeding in them youre coping about is being bs. alot of people arent even getting interviews with more experience than you. do the hard work of grinding leetcode and improve youre interview skills and youll have a job. duh, retard

https://archive.is/20260131101122/https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2026/01/31/tech-layoffs-workers-impact/

Once you get a job it feels like 75% of all posts about coding on the internet are pure LARP. Like you'll see people crying about how using if-else instead of switch is 0.0001 ms slower but then real production code is full of inefficient java streams everywhere and nobody cares because it doesn't matter

>>108025020
that's what happens when tech is flooded with jeets and women. I can tell you with certainty that in any company run by white men that this will be brought up in a code review.

>>108024938
lc is supposed to be a filter for 0 experience people because there's nothing else to go on

>>108025043
actually delusional

>>108025068
well thats not how its used now. you can bang your head against interviews youre failing and complain "thats not what lc is for!" or you can study, do the song and dance during the interview and gain employment. i say this as someone who was in the same situation during technical interviews being asked questions that will never be relevant on the job, proceeding to fail my interviews. i stopped being stubborn and studied my ass off and nailed the next interview after i started studying. nothing i studied is relevant to my day to day work, but hey now i got a 6 figure wfh job. hope what im saying makes pragmatic sense.

>>108025079
It's true. If you don't have at least 1-2 devs who are autistic about optimizing an if statement, FUCKING RUN

>>108025020
People arguing about coding online on their free time are the outliers.

I kind of wish I had a physical job so I would get home physically tired and work on software projects to relax. I got into software because it can be fun and now I'm forced to do it only for money and work on gay corporate projects instead of game engines or other cool shit.

What languages, besides english, do you guys recommend learning?

I suppose those of you who are americans in the US don't really think about this, because you have the best job market for this at home. But personally I am thinking about learning a third language, and I want it to pay off in terms of job prospects, whether by giving me the chance to live somewhere else with better pay if I ever want to, or getting me a better job without moving.

I already speak fluent english and it helps immensely with tech jobs.

I thought of chinese and japanese, but the thing is, with what I heard about their work culture, there is no way I'll ever live and work there. It's out of the question for me to live like the locals do. Could those languages still pay off?

Other than that there's german, which I am already learning and can already read on a very basic level. Germany is cozy and even if I don't move to germany (which I don't actually plan to), it's probably good for tech jobs to speak it. Many tech jobs in Europe are contractors for germans. But idk if it's worth it to continue down this path vs an asian language.

>>108025505
german, spanish, french, or dutch, in that order
any of the big 3 asian ones if you're willing to sell your soul, but it sounds like you're not, so don't

>>108025337
Dude coding is coding.

Early this year I was off for like 3 months because my mental health was bad (that's a thing in Europe, I still got paid), and I missed coding to the point I started doing leetcode kek (until I got back).

I'd say a job that is different every day and very similar to solving puzzles is MUCH better than a physical chump job kek

>>108025527
I am from Spain so already speak spanish and english. I guess I'll continue with German.

I was wondering if there was some kind of niche where speaking one of the big asian languages would help without having to actually move there, but I guess probably not kek

>>108025527
>german
>french
why

>>108025542
I suppose because they are big economies in Europe. Specially german, which is spoken in Switzerland and Austria too. I'm from Spain and many jobs are actually a contractor for a german company.

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I'm tired, boss

>>108025542
>>german
industry (chemical, automotive, etc.)
>>french
quebec

So the biggest problem is that boomer companies equate education with ability. which is why timmy with a bachelor's can't compete with the hoard of jeets with a masters. And how that happens usually is jeets in india cheat their way for an undergrad degree there. Then they apply to an American uni for an F1 visa, then they cheat their way through the american uni for a master's degree. Then they apply to american jobs with a Masters in Computer Science and companies give them visa sponsorships. And almost no white timmy can displace them from the visa sponsorship because on paper someone with MS is more qualified with BS despite being braindead retards when it comes to critical thinking or designing any kind of complex backend system. And white timmies don't usually go for a master's degree because they don't see a big need, while jeets see it as a path to a visa (even though they have jingoism even though they see being deported as the worst possible punishment)

>>108025613

Tbf, there's plenty of things boomers in management do wrong, but the market is doing its thing, pushing bad choices, and entirely getting rid of businesses that don't learn and keep making bad choices. It's a very slow process sometimes, but it's there.

When there's a gorillion pajeets out there willing to code for peanuts and programmer salaries are still high, it becomes obvious that companies are paying a huge premium to hire people who are not pajeets. They know pajeets are stupid but nobody can say it.

Lots of pajeets still get hired of course, what I am saying is, if they were competent, and a real threat, it would not be that they get many jobs, they would get ALL the jobs and truly end programming jobs in the west, which is not happening.

There's also retards like Elon Musk who believe that a submissive hardworking pajeet in an office all day is better than a creative high IQ white guy working remotely, and that's why twitter is bugged as fuck whereas with the woke management it sucked but technically worked fine.

>>108025683
>>108025613

Btw I am not saying I disagree with you. At all. Just felt like adding this context but by no means am I saying you're wrong, because you are right. Just saying because I just realized it kinda sounds like I'm disagreeing.

>>108023781
That's the fever dream of a retarded boomer executive (who should be lynched anyway for importing jeets). AGI will never happen, and AI at most will become a rapid prototyping or drafting tool that needs to be extensively tested. What the executives want is a world where bugs and broken edge cases are the norm. If you want to make an impact, try creating a bug free high performance product that can compete with what companies are offering.

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>>108025528
I just wish I had the mental energy at the end of the day to code cool shit I want to code but that doesn't make any money

>>108025712
Damn. I feel you, now that you put it that way. There's so much shit I would code but never do because I have to make some stupid platform for an insurance company all day kek

>>108025337
>I kind of wish

This is the thinking of weak people. You either want it or you don't. If you really want a physical job, quit your job right now and go get one.

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>>108021918
every tech job besides programming is safe (there are too many programmers and outside of silicon valley all tech jobs besides monkey IT work pay the same anyway)

>>108025020
anon, the ones discussing retarded shit like that are most likely students. they are very vocal and have no clue how things work IRL.

>>108025337
phisical jobs are shit, but you probably make enough money to do stuff on the side, so maybe start making furniture or whatever. you will learn quickly that that shit isn't even good for your body. then you'll start going to the gym.

>>108025020
this is because people talking about coding online are unemployed students

>starting new job on monday
>was told i would be on a "small team"
>heard through the grape vine i will be on my own; the rest of the team is focused on a different project and has little skillset overlap
>dept only had enough funding for 1 extra FTE
>the reason they were hiring was some state law about the max amount of time contractors can be contractors for a govt agency meant they had to let the contractors go and i manged to be a better candidate than any of them
the posting felt like they were trying to poach me when i read it but now im starting to worry
how screwed am i
i gave up a comfy posting at a university for this because i could make an extra $20k

enjoying the weekend, /twg/?

>>108026614
i'm gonna be a zombie next week i can tell already
god help me

>>108017310
Nah just go to /trv/ and /out/ and /diy/. At that point there's no point caring about keeping up anymore

>>108026614
just got stoned and played guitar all day

>>108025712
>>108025718
gib money minting ideas plox

>>108026636
I like coming here and bitching and reading other anons bitching

>>108019166
Just make sure you don't share the program, that shit is job security.

>>108017371
I wear multiple hats. I am the field admin for my office but it's not my title. yes I know I'm a doormat. anyway, I work at a car auction and a mistake I made caused the company to own a $45,000 Stingray with a bad rear diff. I still work there kek

>>108025043
nigger you think Oracle took the time to add all this slow functional paradigm shit to Java just for laughs? It's used in every modern fucking codebase from defense to accounting to the civil service. If I have a 2 second database call I don't give a fuck about adding 10ms of processing

>>108023698
Let who what when where?
I did not consent to what she does. Do I have to punch her in the face or are more brutal forces required?

>>108026744
>BOY I just like bitching.
You're not very smart. The bitchers are horrible.

>>108026214
start worrying once you actually start working, retard

>>108027073
Someone can be horrible and still be right

>>108027151
That's where the bitches fail the most.

Should I sell my Amazon stock now to get some money out of it before the company fucks up any more

>>108027274
>>>/biz//smg/

>>108026614
my back has been killing me for a few weeks
Need to buy a top for this standing desk frame I ordered last week
or pass away in my sleep, that would probably be best

bros, i'm laid off. what's stopping me from applying to a bunch of $15/hr remote data entry jobs and just having AI do it all?

>>108028113
Subcontract Jeets to do it for you

Do worker bees who always get the job done deserve a raise/promotion? Or should raises/promotions be reserved for worker bees who go "above and beyond" and do work outside of their responsibilities?

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how do i git gud at c++ and linux commands?

>anon why code stop work, we are missing items
>look the javascript

for (i = 0; i < arr.length; i++) {
  callbackHell(arr[i]);
}

>>108023962
Im almost done playing guitar for the day :)

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just announced my new position on linkedin. now everyone will be jealous

should I end my life if I lose my job?

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>>108021918
I wish so i have excuse to quit pursuing career in this shit industry, but like this guy said >>108025788 Like an alternative tech job that isn’t programming basically exists because it needs a scapegoat and at the end of the day, AI can’t be sued it’s you who executed the command

>didn't get bonus last year because company didn't meet stupidly high targets
>didn't get a payrise last year either
>quarterly updates
>hitting targets, looking good

I'm getting a payrise right? RIGHT?

Just bought a house, even a 5% payrise is the difference between me counting the pennies and living moderately comfortably.

>>108021918
It is replacing a lot of code-monkey work. Entry/low level is fucked already and it'll get worse with time. Seniors and architects/engineers will be safer.

The problem is... you need devs at entry level to become senior. The competency crisis is going to get a whole lot worse.

>>108029008
obviously, they will not offer you a rise but if you haven't asked for one by now, I can't blame them

>>108029087
NTA but do you have to ask for one or wait for a review from management? I've been waiting for a review for months now and I've grown impatient and would like a raise

>>108022137
Angular goes hard on signals right now so learn that. RXJS is still heavily used in existing projects but eventually will be used for stuff like debouncing etc only.
Signals are pretty easy to understand because they enforce immutability.

>only staying alive because new gits season this year
i dont have any other friends i keep in frequent contact
reasons to stay alive?
being born was the biggest mistake my parents made. should've aborted me.

>>108029632
what kind of giant pussy are you.

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>ask a.i. to deduplicate some code
>it tries to fix a non typo in a completely unrelated piece of code by introducing a typo

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>burned out a while ago
>brain completely fried, in bed all day
>finally improving after herculean effort
>currently work a couple days a week but constantly on a knife's edge
>struggling hard, tell the company doc and HR
>doc suddenly concludes I'm all better
>HR demands I report back in fully
>stress out completely again
why are they like this, I'm so close to recovering and now it's all going tits up again

>>108030778
Because a goy who can't perform is a bad goy.

>>108030778
Why the fuck are you stressing about work.. just do your job. You don't own the company, you have no fucking stake in it, just clock in and work and clock out and go home.

>>108031016
work was maybe 20% responsible for why I burned out

Any jobs available for VBA, SQL, C# fags? This is all in the Manufacturing sector because that's my area of expertise and looks like it is not affected by AI much unlike code monkeys. If anything our customers are all in the AI industry.

>>108028821
yes, 100%. you shouldn't have a life outside work, so you might as well kys.
in fact, you should get up in the morning and start working, and then go to bed as soon as you stop working. never, ever take a vacation.

>>108030778
this is why you need savings. employers don't really care about your health. you are the one that should take care of yourself.

>company doc
what the fuck
maybe visit an external doc? why would you talk to the one paid to defend the interests of your employer lmao

>>108031112
It's mandatory. Also I have enough savings for about 10-12 years, but don't own a home.

>>108031121
>It's mandatory
by law, or by internal corporate norms? are you american? if so, have you tried talking to a lawyer? if not, do you know what workers protection laws are there in your country?

>>108031036
>Any jobs available for VBA, SQL, C# fags?
i mean i'm a c#fag and i have a job, so yeah
azure/sql/.net is a god tier stack because it's popular but not too much that you have to compete with a billion jeets like java
the drawback is that you sell your soul to microshit

>>108031403
His pants are too tight. And low rise is for teenagers.

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>>108031148
I'm a Eurofag. If I don't submit to the process I'll lose my job and income. I have some options to try and correct the conclusion the doc made, so it might turn out ok legally, but it's destroying me mentally. I don't have any gas in the tank to deal with this shit. I may have to reduce the number of hours I work to stave off another breakdown. My employer will interpret this setback as an indication I can't return.

I'm close to going full autism, turning off my phone, locking the door, and going almost completely non-verbal for a few years until the police force my door to see if I'm still alive. I've been there before and it's not ideal

>>108031476
have you tried taking some days off or outright going on vacation to some random place and telling your employer to fuck off for a while?

maybe watch some dumb movies to distract yourself from your thoughts.
I mean, like it or not, escapism is a good way to deal with this shit...

>>108031121
>savings for about 10-12 years
Bruh I hope they're in diversified stocks and metals because inflation can knock you down at any moment, hell if you put 50% of that in gold futures right now you might never have to work again.

every mf thinks they have 10-12 years savings until bill gates drops covid-bola 26

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>>108031757
I got some days off saved up but every time I take a holiday I just stress out even more and return an even bigger wreck.

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>random girl sends me a request in LI
>I add her like the simp that I am (I always add women, I believe it helps me in search algos)
>"anon, would you be so kind to send my resume to this job opening at your company?"
There's a referral bonus for me if she gets accepted, but statistically she most likely won't get in. Why is she trying to get me involved anyway? Why won't she just use the regular avenue? Is she afraid she will get auto-filtered? Also the manager of the team she is trying to get into hates me lol.
Is it even appropriate to hand in a CV of someone you don't know? Wouldn't she taint me if she turns out as a bad candidate?

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>>108032096

>>108031921
yeah, you are a mess. have you tried talking to a psychologist or a psychiatrist? maybe even try getting a health check and a permit to leave.
how old are you? I bet you are a zoomer. you sound like someone who has never had a job in their life.

>>108032096
>referring randos
are you really that retarded?

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>>108032146
I got a shrink and I'm an oldfag.

>>108017371
I think I once broke the invoicing system.

>>108032115
Damn, Elon said something smart?

>>108017212
Don't need to know when you know the hiring manager was a huge cokehead in college and any word of that to anyone can lead to financial ruin.

>>108026194
>>108026087
any student with too much free time on his hands deserves to be shipped to the front lines.

>>108028312
use them

>>108028821
depends. what's your current job and what skills do you have?

>>108031476
Have you considered using very low dose lithium orotate? It helps with emotional stability.

>>108031779
>if you put 50% of that in gold futures
are there specific ETFs we should be investing?

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>>108032460
I'm scared of the possible side effects of all meds, mostly increased suicidal thoughts and even more weight gain. It feels very high risk, going all in. Also I'd have to take meds for life because it doesn't actually cure anything. After writing that I read up on that specific stuff (I just assumed it was regular ol' lithium). It seems evidence of its efficacy is weak. Like my willpower, social skills and IT skills.

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>>108031403
If your work laptop is a Dell, it's fucking over.

>>108032948
What, for all jobs?

>>108031403
>so dyel that he needs to shower clothed
lmao

>>108033076
Yes. Except if you work for Dell.

>>108033474
Eh. If you work some random Exceldrone job, you might as well have a Dell.

>>108031403
Why does this 28-year-old man look like he's 45?

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>>108033496
>Exceldrone job

>>108017263
Bro you're a zoomer you got into CS because your asian parents groomed you into being interested in STEM because it was a good career path. I can smell your story about being interested in programming starting with "when I was a kid I used to run minecraft servers and write minecraft mods" I have heard it so many times in interviews it's such a stupid cliche and doesn't make you interesting, in fact it makes you boring.

How fucked am I if I quit my job? I have few years worth in savings

I'm underqualified for any job that would pay as much as I'm being paid now and basically stuck four days on-site with no hope of ever getting a comparable remote-only role without taking a significant pay cut or lose a lot of the perks I have now. what am I to do as a data scientist in pharma

>>108027274
>he didn't sell on vest

>>108031403
not pictured: his gf

>>108017212
It's above my pay to do that.

>>108032115
Easy to say shit like this when you're a billionaire. He also said having kids is free, because he doesn't even give a single thought to grocery expenses, rent/mortgage, daycare, entertain costs, etc. Anyway, the rest of us that didn't grow up owning an emerald mine are just shucking and jiving the wagieshuffle to keep our bills paid.

>>108017212
I did that in university and haven't needed to since.

>>108017212
>linked list
Deprecated data structure.

>>108032462
Technically the S&P 500 is going up but only against the dollar, if you plot it against gold it is going down so it might be inflation proof but it is not gonna yield any returns.

>>108034722
what an insane definition
are you paying rent or monthly bills in gold or dollars?

>>108017203
>Career changer bootcamper
>Landed internship because my previous career experience aligned with the company
>Got hired full-time 2 years ago
>Working on green field API project developing skills in backend, kubernetes, postgres, etc. with very little hassle or pressure
>Manager wants to promote me

Have I basically won the lottery in the current tech market? I feel insanely lucky

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New year, new Chinese spy gf budget.
We're all getting one this year!

>>108033546
I want a few years off too but idk even know what the fuck I'd do

>>108034230
still encountered in brown field dev. nothing's ever really gone

>>108034722
What about GLD?

>>108034230
What’s the fancy replacement?

>>108031779
>paper gold
lmao, you're fucked

im starting to sweat lads.
everyone around me is getting laid off.
it's not just the tiktok roasties now. people who are actually good at their jobs are getting the boot.
i'm just going to be left with a team of indians that can barely communicate and dont do any work.
what are my options besides kms?

Can I just ask for a raise or wait for a review from management and then ask? Idk when I'm having a review tho

>>108035407
The bigger the firm, the more laughable the raises they give you after these reviews.
Try to get some interviews and some offers as a backup just in case, even if you're not planning to actually leave.
If you're "indispensable", you can just try bluffing.

>>108033552
Oh no you have to work in office at a job you're not qualified to have, for more money than you deserve
ohhh nooooooo

>>108035333
Enjoy the ride, watch the world burn. But update your CV and send it to to 5000 companies. Include that you're 1% Native American and have been to Epstein's island.

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>>108031403
Back then I thought this was dumb, but now I get why people like this make it to their 60s while tech guys don’t
Tech jobs also abuse people by saying “you’ll learn a lot doe, it’s not about za money.” But from what I’ve seen, it’s just bullshit

>Multiple rounds of layoffs
>Im next in line
>Company consistently hitting only 60% of their target to break even
>Leetcode going badly
>Have not done personal project in years


Tick tick… I’m so fucked. Probably have like 3 month? Sucks to fucking suck.

>>108035454
I built the entire backend for the first project that they've ever released to the public that's gonna integrate with a lot of their other software that they have planned and I lead their AI projects. I'd say I'm indispensable but I've seen my boss fire people like it's nothing (granted, they'd only been working for like a month and I'm way better than them). Still, it does bother me and it makes me feel like I don't matter at all anyways

>>108035679
The only way to get the raise you want in a company like that is by threatening to leave.

>>108035671
>Im next in line
how do you know

>>108035695
Because I’m lowest on the experience ladder. Current verbiage is that you’re meant to fire all your engineers that don’t have 10+ years experience.

>>108035690
I can't just ask my boss for one directly? He's said before that he "needs to pay me more so I can get married to my gf already" but I've been waiting to have our performance reviews to actually discuss it but it's been like 3 weeks since we were supposed to have them and nothing has come of it yet. I know he's busy but I think going this long without any kind of review is absurd and it's starting to get on my nerves

>>108035728
You can try asking him directly, but more often than not it's going to be the same old song about "the times" being "rough right now".
They only start moving their asses when there's a real chance of you leaving.

>>108035769
Fair enough. Is the job market still fucked? I haven’t been paying attention to it since I got my job. I have a CS bachelors and I have a little over a year of experience. I could try applying to other places in the meantime just to test the waters and try to leverage that but I don’t want to do it if it’s gonna cost me my job. I think I have a good relationship with everyone at my job and I don’t want to ruin it

I am gonna be honest, I don't mind working. It provides some structure to my day.

I do wish I could go home for lunch like >>108031403

>almost monday
please PLEASE don't do this to me

>>108035960
iktf babe

>>108035960
I am once again hoping that I die in my sleep tonight

i know someone that quit for 8 months then came back. i think he's gotten a promotion since he came back too. he said he needed a break. i think he played music with this band or something.

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Im entering CS next year with all the math courses finished.
Haven't done anything yet class wise, but I have been learning courses like cs50, TOP, making beginner-tier projects, doing easy leetcode problems (only in python but i could probably do it in C, other langs if i had enough time to practice the syntax), and ive made some video game mods in rust which were less about riddle solving in courses and more about working with already made code.

What else should i be preparing myself with?
I live right next door to a cable company hiring for SWE juniors, and despite my autism and inexperience atm im hoping to achieve my goal. I know id need to get an intership in the future.

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>>108036426
this is the employed general, sir

>>108036442
I know, which is why im asking employed people for advice.

>>108036426
get some experience building useful shit
once you enter cs find someone smarter than you and build a business with them, drop out as soon as it takes off

>>108036548
Im a normie though. I just want to have a job near me after i graduate

>>108036426
Fuck off faggot, we're full

>>108036516
he means this general is explicitly so you don't ask such shitty questions

How do you guys feel about your job security? I'm getting kinda nervous

How do I go about finding someone to market my product?

>>108036676
I hope that any job id get isnt filled with negative nancys like you.

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how do i get a cute korean gf at work?

>>108036883
You wont get any>>108036883

>>108036774
The thing i worried somehow that my job is kinda secure and it’s not because AI can’t do it better

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>>108036774
i'm killing myself if i get laid off.

>>108036774
HR is implementing shit policies every other week with the hope people will quit
but no one is flinching so far

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>>108036774
More secure than I want. I'd prefer to get laid off with severance. Every time I get an email, I hope in my heart that the subject is
>Update on business priorities impacting you

im a field service tech and its stupid easy and pays insane for what it is, just because i actually walk around and dont just sit at a desk all day.
my tech pipedream is learn to code to work from home, move to cheap countryside, and never leave the house

>>108036774
I don't have any
I don't know what I'm gonna do instead though. I'm over thirty and I have barely enough savings to burn through for like 5 months. I dunno if that's enough time to get a cert or something and get a new job

>>108035202
>What’s the fancy replacement?
An Array

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Another sprint

>>108037718
and so as I sprint...
Unlimited Ticket Works

MY JOB DOESN'T PAY ME ENOUGH TO LIVE ANYWHERE NEAR IT YET THESE MOTHERFUCKERS INSIST ON BEING IN PERSON DESPITE THE FACT WE HAVE TO WORK HOLIDAYS REMOTELY PROVING WE NEVER HAVE TO BE IN THE OFFICE
I FUCKING HATE THIS COMPANY

Socially anxious /twg/chads, how did you pass your interview?

Work makes me so sad
I feel like I have to use Claude as much as possible because all my coworkers are doing the same thing and will have more output than me if I don't use it as well. Then management will get mad and throw shit at me because I'm "slow"

>>108037941
Years of competitive helicopter parents and attending various musical conpetitions hardened me to oblivion.
While regular social interactions scare me to death, anything regarding a professional setting or presentations don't faze me at all.

>>108037956
I feel for you bro

My honest advice from years of working as a dev.

First off your management is doing something very wrong by pushing for rushed code. This is a mistake similar to when they hire pajeets to """save money""". This is bad, and if you get another job, you should not apply this there, because they won't like it if they're decent.

Secondly, I feel that once management tells you once that you're doing something badly, its very unlikely to get a fair chance of improving after that. In my experience, if they have a good impression of you, you can get away with a lot, but if they don't or they complain about something, then they'll complain about everything you do. So don't take them too seriously t.b.h.

Also. Are you even sure output is faster with AI? I'm not even sure ngl. Even if they're vibe coding and not even reading the code, with how fast you can type with auto complete, I don't really know if describing what you want to AI and iterating with it is faster than writing the code, because with AI you still have to tell it how to do it, break down the problem into simple parts, etc

>>108038135
Management hasn't mentioned anything but they push using copilot so much that I feel obligated to do it. It's sad because I really do like knowing every single thing that's going on but I'm doing so much that I can't type everything out. I can solve the problem and narrow down the scope of it enough for AI to just write the code, switch to some other task while it's done, that way I can spend less mental energy trying to implement + solve another problem that I have on my plate. I just don't want to turn into a dev that takes forever to debug or solve a problem because I've seen my coworkers who use Claude, try to debug their own/Claude's code and it's shocking at how bad and slow they are at it. Like I don't even know how the function fits into their solution and yet I can glance at it, and solve their problem within 3 minutes without using a debugger, but they fucking STRUGGLE

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>>108017212
Sorry, I only use arrays

>t. PHP God

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>>108017212
what's a list
you mean like a column?

800k after tax + 300 days off + nork spy gf by the way

>>108037941
sweating bullets, hiring manager understood