One of my friends admitted that he went into AI because destroying human culture was the only legal way to catastrophically harm a huge number of people. How many people in AI are like this?
>>108018342a lot
>>108018342turns out it's all just one big revenge of the nerds power fantasy
I've been wondering about the information ive missed out on due to having little friends most if my life
>>108018402>>108018342If you understood just how bad things really are, you would understand that the people who think this way are RIGHT. You have no fucking idea how deep some of the most grotesque evil in the world goes, or just how far depraved it is.
>>108018519you don't know me lol
>>108018342This is literally the only reason I want AI to succeed. I’m joker pilled, we get what we deserve, if AI is our salvation, or destroys us, we deserve either one.
>>108018519Unironically I have better opinions on genocidal maniacs rather then people who want to destroy the world with AI. The people intentionally wanting to cause harm with AI with the end goal being human extinction are the single worst creatures on this planet, the most wretched demons and the only people who deserve after failing to talk them out of it to be beaten to death on the spot. People who cause genocides at least do it because in their fucked up minds they want their own people to live better lives without the people they deem undesirable. Even pedophiles just diddle kids to feel pleasure for themselves, sure it’s bad but at least it only affects the kids. People who actively want to kill off humanity with robots just want death for sake of death without even any benefit for themselves, no other creature on Earth is like this. Just pure malice and wretchedness.
>>108018519>>108018548>i am somewhat depressed>if only you knew how bad things really are, the world is rotten, billions must dieYou doomer faggots are basically a walking stereotype at this point.
>>108018652You are ruled by literal pedophiles. Pedophiles rule the world.God was not wrong to flood the world of sin. Neither is AI.
The clanker comethKek be praised
>>108018662yes he was god is a fucking RETARD and he should have obliterated the world rather than take half measures that didnt achieve anything at all>hurr durr i will make humans in mah imageyeah god has to be the dumbest fucking dipshit retard ever
>>108018662Ok, then just kill the fucking pedophiles then? Also pedos aren’t that bad when you compare them to what animals do to eachother in the wild or if you compare them to AI. You are not flooding the Earth so Noah and his zoo can rebuild the world, you are scorching it over and populating it with demons.
>>108018402If I'm honest with myself I think I fall into this too. I want to make an impact
>>108018402I’m nerd and someone who followed AI alignment since teens, all I feel revenge towards is the AI developers.
>>108018587>Even pedophiles just diddle kids to feel pleasure for themselvesMaybe people who cause chaos also derive pleasure from it, have you considered that?>without even any benefit for themselvesAnd in a way, it's selfless. Humans are shit. You're describing several categories of people you yourself despise, and how many more are there? Plenty. Sure, they're not all bad, but the least harmful approach with that taken into account would be magically making everyone infertile for a gradual slow extinction. Which is not feasible.
>>108018985No you are the worst one because you are causing the most harm while thinking of yourself as the hero. The pedo example was bad, better example would be that pedos are just harming small amount of children while you just want to end it all. Also you didn’t address the fact that animals are capable of and do on average more evil among eachother then humans. Or how creating multiple composting super AIs would result in the one operating as bacteria to win (do nothing but grab as many resources and reproduce). You are creating a cosmic cancer that just eats matter and energy to kill the universe because you thought few pedophile and greedy bad apples in otherwise pretty cooperative species who values positive emotions and life of fellow members were enough to nuke everything over.
>>108018985>And in a way, it's selfless. Humans are shit.If you hate life so much, why not kill yourself instead of making things worse for others?
>>108018342It's weird how the people hyping up AI the most at my tech job are all troons. Kinda gives me this transhumanist feeling.
>>108019094And yet the people most against it on xwitter are also troons.
>>108019055>>108019082I'm not even doing anything, your argument is just fundamentally flawed.>animals are capable of and do on average more evilAnimals don't do any evil, they just exist as designed. Humans are an anomaly.>creating multiple composting super AIsThat's not even going to happen. Sure as fuck not from LLMs.>kill the universeExaggerate some more and we'll start talking about destroying parallel timelines with a stable diffusion prompt.>pretty cooperative speciesIt's a net negative all the same. Extinction isn't even inherently bad, nobody can suffer from not being born. We'll stop fucking up the planet at least.
>>108018587Hey hold on now a pedophile is someone who fucks kids not someone who diddly doodly
>>108018342>>108018519based if i say so myself
>>108018342Lmao, go into defence. The code I wrote kills hundreds each year. Will be in the tens of thousands once more conflicts break out :3
>>108019094Jeets are hyping itTroons are hating it
>>108019102those are lesser troons. Imagine being a troon, but then saying:>WAIT, THIS TECHNOLOGY STUFF IS GOING TOO FAR! The foundation for many of their views is using technology to augment or one day surpass organic limitations completely. Transhumanism runs in parallel with this sort of thing.
>>108018519>the people in power are BAD and I hate them!>therefore I must ruin the life of the common man and give the men in power even more power!rock solid logic right there
>>108018342All of them. You have to be a pathologically malicious person to do this shit. If you're even considering how you'd justify it to yourself, you're probably not psycho enough for the job.
>>108019217>suffering = badCut your dick off, whining faggot.
whatever
>>108018342AI is not a tool for cultural destruction—it's a product of human ingenuity aimed at solving problems, improving lives, and advancing knowledge. To suggest that anyone in AI would intentionally destroy human culture for legal or ideological reasons is a gross misrepresentation of the field, and one that shows a complete lack of understanding of the values, ethics, and safeguards that guide AI research.
>>108018418Why would someone choose to hang out with midgets? Does it make you feel tall?
>>108018985>Humans are shitAccording to who? Do not judge or you'll too be judged
>>108019217> I'm not even doing anything> but everyone else is and so humans deserve to be genocided Holy shit, how self-centered are you retarded AI dick suckers? How anyone comes to the conclusion that they're the only person doing good in the world while everyone else is evil is beyond me. You aren't the main character. The majority of people aren't evil or doing evil. If the world was this cruel and evil place that the misanthropes say it is, then we'd never have developed past animals. The world was getting better for a long time and you dumbasses are hellbent on some nerd revenge fantasy.
>>108020813>conclusionThey are psycho. Understand this right now. They have no need for "conclusions." They don't give a fuck. They just tell you shit.
>>108018402Jewish power fanatasy. ycombinator look it up.
The people in silicon vally are openly satanic. No joke. On the flip side fuck normalniggers
>>108020813If you imagine these people as normal thinking human beings coming to conclusions, then you're still looking for something there. There's nothing but power and exploitation.
Hate never really goes away but you kind of accept it. The blowback will hit people when european youth goes to War and people start realising life is not a movie.Maybe they'll start swallow the pill but by then we will be great replaced.Oh well. People made their own bed,you don't get used to loneliness you just fill it.
>>108019217>Animals don’t do evil, only humans can because they are the anomalySome retarded religious cope about how predators are just doing their own thing but humans killing is their moral fault because you need to judge everyone after death. Just say most animals are cruel to eachother and that humans aren’t necessarily. Just because you remember suffering in your life more then the joy you experienced does not mean suffering is overwhelming part of the existence. Just existing in normal state is preferable to death. Humans aren’t worse then animals and existing if preferable to death unless that existence is indeed nothing but suffering. You can mercy kill but you can’t mercy kill everyone.>You are exaggeratingI mean, you can only kill humanity with AI only if you exaggerate into some Yudkovsky sci-fi. Yes, LLMs in the next 5 years aren’t doing shit, but if you are in AI research because you want human extinction I assume your goal is to make something like the paper clip AI in the next 20 or 30 years.
>>108020773That was 10 years ago when the main goal was self driving cars and protein folding. Now 90% of AI research is just finding ways to generate better slop generator or better coding agent.
>>108018342>human cultureWhat's wrong with destroying 2026 "culture"? They stop producing anything of value a decade ago
At least rustrannies won't survive the AI apocalypse either
>>108020813>The majority of people aren't evil or doing evilMajority of people are pro-abortion and while they claim to be against war they will support it every single time when MSM brainwashes them to. I don't know if I'd call it evil though, we're just animals and that comes with some bit of evil built in
>>108021218There is a big difference between being pro-war while your country is being invaded and your country doing the invasion.
>>108021235What are you even talking about? People are pro-war on all sides all the time. Give them a 9/11 and they'll believe they're literally being invaded and need to fight back. Some would be stupid enough to fall for false flags but a lot would just use that false flag as an excuse to warmonger, fully aware of what they're doing.
Joke is on him. Humans using a capable AI will enrich human culture, not destroy it. The contrary opinions are just pearl-clutching bullshit.
>>108018519are you retarded? The jews and oligarchs are the bad guys. Why would you fuck a common man instead of these filthy jews? Kys
>>108018519Same, instead of everyone, I hold a grudge against anyone who has caused harm to me since childhood until now.I remember those people's names, and am currently formulating a plan to take the law into my own hands against them.Unlike most anons here, I have a job and live a fairly comfortable life, but this vengeful mindset never goes away.And I have to research any technology, including AI, to achieve my revenge.
>>108018351I had never thought about it like that, but honestly, I feel there's an underline reasoning for me to like AI
>>108018342r/thathappened
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>>108022598Kek
>>108018342I went into AI because I want working to be optional for everybody without having to bullshit an autism diagnosis or something.
Your silly fictional story aside, intelligence agencies and companies like Palantir are full of sociopaths. It's almost a pre-requisite, really, given the nature of the work, which would weight heavily on a regular person's conscience.
>>108019217>Animals don't do any evil, they just exist as designed. Humans are an anomaly.Many animals are capable of thinking, just not as in a sophisticated manner as humans. They are absolutely capable of cruelty. Sharks kill their siblings in their mother's wombs. Eagle hatchlings push their siblings out of their nests. Chimpanzees deliberately seek out and kill former members of their community as if they're a cartel. Lion males kill the cubs of females they want to mate. Dolphins rape and kill for sport. The list goes on.
>>108021218Why are people be anti-abortion and anti-welfare at the same time? They want more people in the world but are unwilling to allocate resources to support them? Being anti-abortion has nothing to do with morality. It's just a checkbox for people to want to go to heaven that they believe exist, an ultimately selfish motive.
