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>>108019792
Why are the other animals angry at the duck in the original comic?
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>>108019842
The duck can, walk on land, swim/dive and fly. It's also really good at rape, but I think that wasn't mentioned.
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>>108019879
Kek
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>>108019792
Mostly corporate reasons.

>Office
Everyone in the work place uses Office. Google had a chance, but they couldn't help themselves and had to data harvest your files.

>Games
This has gotten better with Steam creating Linux infrastructure. But realistically you are still better off just installing Windows on your gaming PC to play all games

>No tech support
If some component of your Linux installation bugs out, then you have figure out yourself what is wrong. That's not okay in a corporate environment. The issue needs to be fixed asap so work can continue.
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>>108019898
>If some component of your Linux installation bugs out, then you have figure out yourself what is wrong. That's not okay in a corporate environment. The issue needs to be fixed asap so work can continue.
Redhat, Canonical, SUSE exist
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>>108019792
If your mom is so good, by don't more people use her?
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>>108019898
>That's not okay in a corporate environment. The issue needs to be fixed asap so work can continue.
Isn't that why IT is a thing? I can't think of a single job that I have worked where if something didn't work they didn't immediately pawn it off for IT to solve.
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>>108019792
you can actually stop updates and delete system_apps you you pass the skill check
>why don't
because monopolies
are we deadass with these questions?
do we have functional eyes and brain?
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>>108019792
>If Linux is so great
It's not all moden OSs are garbage and cloud internet centric
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>>108019974
It won’t spend 5 hours trying to command line debug your shit loonix install, they’ll just format and reinstall
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>>108019974
Those usually only know how to fix common problems
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>>108019792
>bro Linux is so much better at like literally everything like it's just a superior technology
>install Linux
>de instantly crushes because it uses wayland now and you have nvidia GPU
>inb4: no bro fr fr no cap linux is better at everything as long as "everything" is complying with hardware limitations and a very limited amount of use cases
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>>108019792
>If being an Olympic athlete is so great, why don't more people do it?
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>>108019792
I hope they never do. I dont want normies using Linux, it will just shit everything up.
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Nvidia gpu is the only reason for me to stick with Windows.
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>>108019792
normies use windows because it's what came with their prebuilt PC, which came with windows because it's what normies use, perpetuating the cycle; trying anything else doesn't cross their minds because the average person greatly overestimates how complex replacing their OS or using linux actually is
for some there's issues of compatibility with specific software they need for work or video games, but they're a minority and the average user isn't really doing anything except browsing the web
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>>108020382
you're also greatly overestimating how complex it is
I (as a complete amateur with computer stuff) started using mint just over a decade ago now and it's literally just werked ever since with zero hassle; the same can not be said of windows in that timeframe
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>>108019792
Because it takes getting used to, and requires some basic tech knowledge (which 99% of the population lack) to install.
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>>108020376
werks for me
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>>108020438
>it's literally just werked ever since with zero hassle
That's good for you but remember: the true measure of the user's skill (and the OS' complexity) is not found when everything is working fine, it's when things malfunction and you have to fix them.
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>>108020376
>oh noes, I've learned Nvidia is a piece of shit corpo that doesn't play fair and want Linux to fail

yes, that it is. that is, moron. this isn't on Linux tho. you should never buy nvidia again, not cry about Linux
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>>108019792
>android
>can't delete system apps
Skill issue
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>>108019792
troonix should say "I can't do shit on the desktop".
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>>108019898
>Google had a chance, but they couldn't help themselves and had to data harvest your files.
corporate retards don't care about this either or else they wouldn't be using windows 11. they just use office because it's the default
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>>108019792
>I can't stop update
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>I can't install old app
Load 32-bit binaries. Just like with Linux.
>inb4 Apple Silicon
Works in emulator.

>I can't delete system_apps
Who runs factory ROMs?
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At least post the original.
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What's the point of these threads, you will continue to circlejerk like you've been doing for decades instead of trying to understand why people prefer to use windows and Macs.
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>>108019792
Duck:
>"error while loading shared libraries: libsunnyday.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"
>"The wine configuration is being updated, please wait..."
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>If Linux is so great, why don't more people use it?
Because Big Tech sponsors an army of transsexual and other faggot degenerates to invade FOSS, in order to make it look gay to the average normie (and nobody likes homosexuals or being associated with them). It is really unfortunate that people don't have the same visceral reaction to feminism as they do homosexuals, family formation wouldn't be in crisis now...
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>>108019792
>I can't install old app
this is also valid for linux
try running an app on ubuntu 25.10 that was made for ubuntu 14.04
you simply can not run it
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>>108022187
do you have an example of something you'd like to run but can't because of its' age?
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>>108019792
Linux can’t coexist with other Linux operating system’s. Years of experience and security but no steps to come together.
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>>108019879
Ducks can’t carry, if this was Linux then they can’t handle hardware issues.
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>>108019898
>>Office
ms is destroying office. moving everything to web is awful. tried to remove access, still no web version.
>>No tech support
ms has exactly less tech support as linux, i.e. people finding workarounds on SO and someone with a brain can follow them to fix it if your worker is too stupid.
have you tried to ask anything on windows official support forum? the experts are just script readers. don't read or understand your question, reply is always no that is not possible because 90% of the questions are 'how can i revert this update which has removed something i use and rely on, and replaced it with something that actively hurts me'

ms is intent on destroying itself. linux at least you can choose the weapon you want to kill yourself with.
its actualy astounding that they have accepted to start the uturn on ai crap

>games
yes ok i'll give you that. proton/wine whatever might be perfect but its not 'linux' is it. its an emulator. yes it is. yes it is. yes it is. if windows disappeared tomorrow there would just be no pc gaming. nobody would make native games for linux.
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>>108019792
Because most people don't know what an OS is, and increasingly more people don't know what folders are, and half of the children can't use keyboard, mouse or joysticks, being touchpad only aberrations of nature.
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>>108020546
this. linux is suffering from massive dunnig-kruger.
switching to an OS while you don't have any idea about it's internals it's just plain stupid
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>>108019792
Linux can't install apps that aren't deemed worthy of packaging by the package maintainers.
>inb4 install an entire mini-OS to run the app (docker, flatpak, snap)
>inb4 compile from source
>inb4 just run some script from github
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>>108022667
just use appimage bro
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>>108019792
Because tech illiterates think Windows is a requirement to use a PC. As in, if a PC doesn't have Windows "it just cannot work at all". People don't know what an operating system is.

I'm not even kidding...

Yesterday I was actually talking to a boomer who told me he bought a laptop, I saw the receipt and the laptop came with Linux (probably Ubuntu). He additionally paid for a Windows 11 license and had someone install Windows 11 onto it. The conversation went like this:
>Me: why did you pay for Windows when your laptop already came with an OS?
>Him: But it didn't.
>Me: No it did, it says so right here. (I show the receipt)
>Him: But it didn't come with Windows.
>Me: Yes, but it came with Linux. You could've used that for free instead of paying for a Windows license.
>Him: I didn't know. I thought a computer doesn't work unless it has Windows.
>Me: Well what do you need Windows for? Anything specific?
>Him: Only the web browser to watch Youtube, read news and check email. I won't do anything else on it.

People have been brainwashed between 1970s and 2000s to think Windows is the only thing that exists on computers. People don't know what an operating system is nor which operating systems exist. They only know Windows, iOS and Android exist but they don't know what they mean.

So, to answer the question of "If Linux is so great, why don't more people use it?" - the real reason is the massive amount of marketing that Microsoft did over 20 years ago. It completely bought the mind share of average people to the point that they clearly WANT Windows even if their devices come with an already working operating system.

That's why Microsoft can shit all over Windows, add an infinite number of telemetry services, back doors, AI espionage services, etc. Most people aren't aware that Windows is being "enshittified" nor are they aware of ANY of the Windows-related drama.
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>>108019792
Because people are dumb sacks of shit. Being better doesn't guarantee success, just look at Betamax.
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>>108022677
>just pack an entire OS into a single bundle bro
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>Betamax
You're betamaxed.
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>>108019792
because its still not ready for the desktop. It has much worse software compatibility than Windows and Mac, it still has no unified way for installing programs, its entire ecosystem is very fragmented and most of its software is maintained by faggots so insufferable that they make satya nutella and other corpojeets look like the nicest people on the planet.
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>>108022998
>just pack an entire OS into a single bundle bro
This, but unironically.
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>>108022344
carrying is for losers
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>>108022998
define "an entire os", because for linux the "minimum viable product" to be a linux distro is basically;
- linux
- busybox or similar
- a package manager
like the alpine container image for example is 5 megs
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>>108023091
also note that an application bundle doesn't need a copy of linux, as it uses the host kernel, it also doesn't need busybox since you're not interacting with that when using the application, and it also doesn't need a package manager since the purpose of an application bundle is to contain one application.
so no, an application bundle doesn't ship with an os
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>>108019792
Because it's the equivalent of using Windows XP. It's not that you have to be super tech savvy to use it, but most people are far too retarded to operate anything more than
>tap app
>use app
The overwhelming majority of people would not be able to use XP, today.
That and the stimga of being dogshit until relatively recently. It will take another decade to catch up, but even then don't hold your breath.
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>>108023178
I would argue that XP is better. You have access to all the good windows apps that mog modern linux equivalents like photoshop of microsoft office, you can even run some modern slopware with one core api, and it will play well with most hardware thats actually worth your time, although not all of it, sadly.
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>>108019792

Because it’s not so great, and you should know by now that autistic people have limited indoor voice loudness and awareness. Linux is best at behind the scenes stuff like web servers. A bigger case is being made for gaming lately because it has less overhead than Windows, but that will be shortlived. Windows 12 will stump all other options again. Watch
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>>108019792
Because 99% of people tie their shoes wrong.
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3.5% of all active Steam users is actually quite a lot. That's more than a million people with Linux online right this very instant in time, with Steam at least in their system tray.
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>>108023188
>I would argue that XP is better
Likely, because you quite literally do not ever need the terminal. The point I was making was more just about the expectations of user competency. You needed to know what files and folders were for XP. You needed to know how to get and open .exes to install shit. You needed to know what shortcuts were, and where your programs were installed. Nothing complex at all, but far more than
>tap app
>use app
And honestly I hope Linux never becomes that, because then it's just going to permanently enshitify like every other OS. I do not think Linux should even strive to be mainstream. Competent people will make the switch, stupid but willing will as well, but the technologically retarded won't, which is good. Imagine if the internet still took some level of technological understanding and competency to use...
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>>108019792
Nobody advertises their Linux distro. Windows has been advertised by Microsoft for decades, it's a product you purchase with real money and they make a profit off of.

Red Hat Enterprise and System76 are still memes relatively speaking
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>>108023230
>you need to know about individual files, folders, shortcuts
Thats not a problem unless you are brain damanged. You should either know this already or simply spend 2 minutes on googling it. If a zoom zoom like me can handle that, then so can most people I think.
>because then it's just going to permanently enshitify like every other OS.
Linus is already a toxic cesspool of trannies, communists and pedophiles though.
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>>108022997
HD-DVD was region free and therefor better by default than Blu-ray.
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>>108023230
>and honestly I hope Linux never becomes that, because then it's just going to permanently enshitify like every other OS.
This will never ever happen and I am tired of people fear mongering about this because it doesn't make any sense. No one owns Linux, if devs fuck up a distro then it just gets forked by new developers and the old version and its devs fade into irrelevancy. There are a thousand distros, each with their own super niche customizations according to what people want, and when they do what people want, they get rewarded by becoming a very popular distro. If people hate SNAPS there isn't anything Ubuntu can do about it except cope and seethe because unlike Microsoft, they don't have control over our computers' software. If a boat is sinking in the Linux world it is so easy to just jump into the next one.
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>>108023300
>No one owns Linux,
whoever contributes to linux the most, controls it. If a big company says that desktop linux will look like this or that, it will happen, because everyone knows that without paid contributors supplied by big companies linux would look exactly like gnu hurd nowadays, when literally nothing works and it recently became possible to shutdown your computer gracefully with it. Aggressive enforcement of troonland is the best example of that.
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>>108019898
>Mostly corporate reasons.
most companies has entire IT dep contains brown lowIQ SAARs who forcing Satya Nutella products.

Immutable infra will be trend for the next 5 years!
For server and user devices.
You don't need to patch your servers with security updates.

>Office
>Everyone in the work place uses Office
as desktop app or browser version or fucken sharepoint?

>Games
name at least 3 popular titles which can't be running on Linux\Steam+proton?
https://www.protondb.com/
Every fucken popular title has NATIVE LINUX SUPPORT or you can start it with compatibility layer WITHOUT ANY PERFORMANCE downgrade.
https://www.protondb.com/

you can even develop games on Linux.
>Unreal Engine (UE) supports development on Linux devices using either builds created from source or pre-compiled, installed builds.

>No tech support
>corporate environment
nig/g/a I have a lot of cases where every user device running immutable OS

Immutable base using rpm-ostree users cannot break or modify the base system
why?
- No root access for users
- No traditional package manager access
- Only Flatpak apps allowed
- Flatpak repos are company-controlled

Centralized device management enrollment, policies, remote actions
Application sandboxing own Flatpak repo with strict allow-lists
Browser-centric workflows SaaS first
Stateless or near-stateless endpoints fast recovery, low support cost

No fucken malware, no viruses, no crowdstrike shit or any "antivirus" slop.

This is a future of every fucken company.
Without poopware like Active Directory, Intune, EntraID, Microsoft Authenticator, fucken MS Office or any other jeetware products which still works somehow after years of vibecoding and copilot's commits or C++ to Rust migration.

i'm former Microsoft employee before jeet invasion after 2019 and i'm using Linux daily and the only OS (gaming, development, chill activities).
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>>108023279
>If a zoom zoom like me can handle that, then so can most people I think.
You are severely overestimating the average user. I'm not saying "me big brain big smart, everyone else big dum dum", but when it comes to technology most people can even handle tap -> use.
>muh fags
Yeah but the OS is good, idgaf about the community.

>>108023300
>I am tired of people fear mongering about this because it doesn't make any sense
You read like an LLM that loses context after 1 sentence. I never implied it was going that way. I said the only way it would get mainstream adoption was by doing this.
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>>"error while loading shared libraries: libsunnyday.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"
>>"The wine configuration is being updated, please wait..."
>Uhm, actually, if you'd know how to perfectededly ACTUALLY install GNOO-Linux-MEENT, you'd never ever have a SINGLE FUCKING problem installing and working stuff, or something.
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>>108019792
the government minted 50 bazillion winblows and crapple computers because normalfags yearn for lobotomy
>>108023246
>Windows has been advertised by Microsoft for decades
bill gates was always a scammer I'm starting to realize
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>>108023437
fuck this got me
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>>108020550
This.
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Well for starters if you want to use Nvidia you're already kinda fucked and losing a lot of performance
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>>108019792
the community behind it is awful and unfriendly and the barrier to entry is far higher than the average person in that community thinks it is
99% of people are idiots and thats not their problem when theyre the majority, if you want wider scale use it needs to be borderline braindead like windows and macos are and linux isnt there

no, stock ubuntu and mint or whatever with the same universal installer isnt dead simple, the installer is easy sure, thats ignoring the entire rest of the operating systems use
having to open a terminal at all is a joke, you get to that point on mac for some pretty niche things, not just trying to get a regular thing to work
having to open up cmd or powershell on windows is a similar story, its not to get a regular thing to work, something is very wrong if youre at that point
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>>108023356
I mean no /pol/posting, howthoughever a fair share of linux software, and even some distros, are maintained by very radical, left-leaning people who admit that they hate those who disagree with them. I think its just too risky to use their software, especially that there were cases when their code could literally wipe your drives if you live in naughty country, like Russia (not russian myself though).
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>>108019898
>But realistically you are still better off just installing Windows on your gaming PC to play all games

Windows will be an MMO engine and thats it soon enough
All games with intellectual property will want to use a BSD derivative like PS3 OS, etc.
PCs were and are only better for MMO than game box + TV + controller
And steam always was going to be an OS it was just a matter of Gabe waking up to the truth
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>>108019898
>The issue needs to be fixed asap so work can continue

Hahahahahahahahaha
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My use of computers is very limited. I code, I masturbate, I watch videos, I play single player nonslop games. Linux just works for all of this. I don't think I have installed more than maybe 15 packages, besides the ones that come with arch
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>>108019792
it is not, windows needed to be literally wrecked by a pajeet for people to consider linux, and even then they are reluctant, linux didn't improve at all after half a decade, you try to warn them and they get angry and ban you for "trolling" instead
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>>108020485
>the true measure of the user's skill (and the OS' complexity) is not found when everything is working fine, it's when things malfunction and you have to fix them.

So iOS makes people retarded?
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>>108019792
Ordinary computer users will actively resist trying to learn anything new.
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>>108022167
>Because Big Tech sponsors an army of transsexual and other faggot degenerates to invade FOSS, in order to make it look gay to the average normie

The DEA and FBI do this to libertarian conventions too here stateside
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>>108024183
>My use of computers is very limited. I code, I masturbate, I watch videos, I play single player nonslop games. Linux just works for all of this. I don't think I have installed more than maybe 15 packages, besides the ones that come with arch
based coom-puter user
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>>108023230
>I do not think Linux should even strive to be mainstream. Competent people will make the switch, stupid but willing will as well, but the technologically retarded won't, which is good.

The entire point (which you missed) is getting ownership back in the hands of the user (i.e. "owner")
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>>108019792
I use it, it's better than windows 11, but that's not saying much. Running pirated games is a chore.
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>>108019792
It's the (not so) little things. I love linux but being able to run mainstream software on the go is unparalled. Dot clicking exes and their installers is still unmatched, having to worry about compatibility and stability and extra configuring anytime you have to install something new is doomed to remain a major drawback.
Sure thing is any modern Windows install is dogshit if not put thorugh some good debloating but that you only need to do once in a while.
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>>108024502

Remember to defrag your SSD and delete sys32
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>>108024526
Yea sorry for not putting up with Candy Crush and deliberate ads being default software I guess.
Honestly I can't put up with retarded things popping up on my screen, doesn't matter that I have a good rig.
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>>108019792
The duck cannot install old apps because of dependency hell.
The dog also cannot install old software.
The bird has brain damage.
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>>108023014
>Not ready for desktop
Too vague, elaborate
>Much worse software compatibility
Wine/Bottles for proprietary bullshit, just werks for drivers (9070XT worked out of the box on Mint).
>No unified way of installing programs
Like .deb?
>Ecosystem is fragmented
True
>Maintained by faggots
Corpo fags or tranny fags, pick your posion I guess
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>>108022667
IF you are not running every single program in a separate Docker container with a designated OS for it I don't know what are you doing with your life bro
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>>108020226
What's the point of IT if they can't actually fix technical issues?
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>>108024637
hey, cool it with the antibharatism.
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>>108023230
Yeah, a thing many fail to realise is that what we consider basic tasks in xp were completely alien to people until they got used to them, and even then your average user does not understand his OS at all. Just ask any Windows laptop user if they know that there is a file that increases in size every time they put it into hibernation mode. If you are making an argument for ease of use because 90% of the population uses like four apps then get a fucking mac and get out of this conversation
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>>108023346
> Name 3
Whichever ones have kernel level anticheat
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>>108024637
Their main job is keeping the systems running.
And they can fix technical issues. The are just usually really trivial ones that any tech literate person could fix.
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>>108022667
>inb4 install an entire mini-OS to run the app (docker, flatpak, snap)
That is unironically the future of running computer software.
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>>108024739
>Be IT
>Nothing out of the ordinary, mostly configuring computers for contractors and whatnot
>Contractor calls, Airbus employee claims having issues with his screen, says can't see shit
>Says it's urgent and that he has a project he has to deliver ASAP
>Go to his office
>Turns out HDMI cable was loose
And stories like these I have galore. It feels as if people at work have tunnel vision, where they can do what they were hired for and ONLY that. If something gets out of their boring routine it's unsolvable unless an "expert" comes to see what happened
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>>108024758
So much bloat
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>>108024665

In Russia they say
>and then the page file rapes your HDD
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>>108024455
What about what you quoted implied anything against that?
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>>108024665
>If you are making an argument for ease
No. Look at the thread you're in.
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>>108019792
They have no deals with corporations
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>>108024597
Jeet or Troon? I'll choose Jeet
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>>108021204
yes
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>>108025419
wrong choice
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>>108022870
>I won't do anything else on it
this is a lie, people will always try to do something different than web browsing and they need an OS that will work
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>>108025804
Not in this case. I check up his devices once a year. His previous laptop also only had a browser installed and nothing else.
He's using his Android phone as his main computer and the laptop only serves as a big screen into youtube and reading news.

You don't get how many people use their phone as their main/only computer. Laptops have become devices which many people only use for the web browser and nothing else. He's not the only tech illiterate person I know, most of them only use a web browser or at most download images and pdfs.
The only people I know who use their PC for anything other than web browsing are actual programmers or gamers.
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>>108025419
>Invasive scpecies or self deleting freak
>Chooses the former one
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>>108019792
because it's not installed by default so most normies havent even heard of it
thinking its any other reason is either cope or mental illness. retarded thread
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>>108019792
Because it's hard, it requires a degree's worth of information to use properly. If anything is driving linux adoption its A.I. being able to write magic terminal commands that fix everyone's problem.
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>>108019792
I just installed bazzite on a second ssd I had sitting around and so far it's a breath of fresh air compared to windows 11. Like you I mainly use my computer for single player games and masturbating which pretty much any OS can do. The crazy thing is that, for that reason, I never gave a shit about how assy Windows was. But Microjeets slopped it up so fast that it even annoyed a smoothbrain like me into trying out Linux
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>>108024597
>Wine/Bottles for proprietary bullshit
neither will ever work as good as Windows.
>9070tx
everyone says everything "just werks" on linux, yet people still tend to report issues with both nvidia and AMD
>Like .deb?
like debs, rpms, flatpaks, snaps, appimages, linyaps and God knows what
>Corpo fags or tranny fags, pick your posion I guess
As I have said, linux maintainers are so insufferable that they can make your average rajeesh manipur from microsoft look like the nicest person ever.
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>>108029209
We have already seen examples of games running better on Wine than natively on Windows.
As for the executables, Windows also has multiple other extensions (bat scripts, visual basic, cmd..), the point is, you could standarise .deb the same way you did .exe. Hell, even SteamOS can execute .deb despite being Arch based. Just pick one distro as the default desktop Linux and stick with it
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>>108024144
>PCs were and are only better for MMO
nah, PC's are better for shooters too. console peasants need aim assist to mimic a fraction of our power.
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>>108021254
betch bastard
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>>108029521
Windows is bloatware. No one believes that comic in 2026.
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>>108019792
>I tend to brick after sys update
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>>108029521
>Windows
>Root access
Nice try Kumar.
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>>108029521
You can't even get root access (SYSTEM) on Windows without hacking the damn thing
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>>108031019
back in the day (at least), you could get SYSTEM access by just making cmd.exe your screensaver
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