Bass editionHow to request advice:>Budget>Intended use (media, source, environment)>Frequency response preference and music examples>Past gear and your thoughts on themFAQ:>Where do I buy IEMs?Amazon, Aliexpress, Linsoul, Hifigo, Shenzhenaudio>Shopping Guide (IEMs, PMPs, Cables, Ear Tips, etc.):https://consoomer-guide.pages.dev/>EQ Guide (EQ 101, Targets, Myths & Misconceptions, Papers, etc.):https://iem-eq-guide.pages.dev/>/iemg/'s Journal:https://iemgazette.pages.dev/>Measurements:https://iem-eq-guide.pages.dev/measurement-databases/>Budget Wire Over-Ear IEMs:• Tripowin Ruta10 (Mild V) - $18• Tanchjim Bunny DSP (Mild U) - $22• Truthear Gate (Mild V) - $22• EPZ Q1 Pro (V-shape) - $35>Bullet IEMs:• Tanchjim ONE DSP (5 Presets/5-Band PEQ) - $28• Etymotic ER2XR (Towards Neutral) - $140>Flathead Earbuds:• Blue Vido (Warm) - $5• Yincrow X6 (Warm) - $10>USB-C DACs:• JCally JM6 (Non Pro) / CX Pro - $8• JadeAudio JIEZI (10-Band PEQ) $18• Snowsky Melody (10-Band PEQ) - $38• Qudelix 5K (20-Band PEQ/GEQ) - $110>PMPs:• HiBy R1 - $85• HiBy M300 - $200>AVOID USING:• Mainboard audio when using multi-driver posPrevious Thread: >>108019573
Post basshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MsYFOZhN_Pc
When did this happen? I didn't know our qveen made headpos.
>EPZ OEM>Crinear Theybreak
>>108043479It's begging you to put fox faceplates on it.
do people like the moondrop chu ii's?i like flat frequency ranges btwhttps://www.amazon.com/Moondrop-CHU-II-Performance-Interchangeable/dp/B0CB8HHS8V
should I pickup the aful explorer? I really like warm tuned IEM's, been enjoying my pures but can't really scale them all that loud before that pinna gain area starts to hurt, I'm thinking the explorer could be scaled up as it has much less pinna/treble
Reasons to equalize your pos:1. Take full advantage of planar magic, cvj luki2. You can listen to Moondrop Stellaris and TRN ST73. Attain perfection on your PEQ'd $5 shitbud, why buy anything else?4. Fight back against chinks using Harm Man as acoustic weaponry5. Counter bright recordings by adjusting the brightness and darkness of your pos to comfort level.6. Free (You)s on /iemg/7. Serves as a foundation for other DSPs/VSTs, upsampling, convolution, etc. when increasing techsBe sure to take care when boosting (or leaving alone) high frequencies or you'll be as deaf as Deafzo. Equalize responsibly.
>>108043521Yes, until it starts killing itself
>>108043576Deafzo left all frequencies alone and this happened. Tragic.
>start using iems>after 2 weeks they all clogyeah, im outearholes aren't made to be closed
>>108043479Crinacle should start taking his own advice.
>>108043521Chu2 has lower THD than any pos posted here.
Is there some weird weeaboo shit on the tanchjim app? I gave my sister my bunny dsp. I don't want her to think I'm a weeb.
/iemg/ FAQ ResourceTired of not knowing the lingo? Here’s your prescribed sanity dose:Crinacle law: PEQ a $5 shitbud to perfectionJeet law: The jeet mind cannot comprehend the time domainPrice-quality inverse relationship: You pay extra for THDTechs: Derived from THD, derived from USDPeqDB: Hindu transmutation of one pos to anotherHearing loss: Caused by high volume trebleHeadpos law: Sennheiser shills who know nothing about the superiority of IEMsR2R and tubes: Anathema. Don't even look at them.Apple dongle: Ambrosia. Brought down to us by AudioScienceReview.Tips: If you don't have 12 aftermarket pairs, you aren't consoooooming hard enoughHighres vinyl rips and DSD: Takes up more space than antiquated 44.1KHz redbook audio
>>108043595You're suppose to bathe and clean your orifices regularly, xista. You won't find a boyfriend this way!
>>108043632post pictures of your sister so I can confirm this answer for you
/iemg/ Physiognomy CheckTired of the hivemind? Here’s your weekly sanity dose:>Airpods/Cheapshit TWS/Stock budsToo common to really make a good prediction, ranges from the average beta normalfag to alpha chads with chiseled jawlines.>KZ, cheap Moondrop, years old FOTM pos, Cringicle collabs, CrinearBalding and likely a redditor, moderately ugly, recessed chin. Unibrow, acne. Probably feminist and a simp for onlyfans whores. Least threatening "male". Often Indian.>Truthear, Tanchjim, Softears, other less popular chinkshit and etymotic + smaller influencer collabsSeriously ugly freaks, might have one standout feature like bug eyes or asymmetrical nose, negative canthal tilt is a given. High pitched or feminine voice, repulsive to almost all women.>Customs/Expensive Western brandsFrail faggot hipster, somehow has rapey vibes yet is overpowered by the average woman. Male feminist. Think DMS archetype.>Moondrop/Tanchjim/EPZ/CVJ with art on the sideThese are the ugliest incels imaginable, the truest of trucels. Strange vocal tics, unnatural gait, and unbelievably ugly. They look deformed and monstrous to any normal person and have fucked up fetishes normies couldn't even imagine. Either freakishly thin or morbidly obese.>BlueKAKA, Artti R6, SGOR, extremely cheap shitty offbrand chink posSmall and short, built like goblins with a face to match. Very often fat, brown and the definition of untermensch. Horrific stench emanates up to 5 meters.>Expensive SEAnigger posFat ricecels with tiny beady eyes and poor vision. They often look inbred and their accents make women flee. One can assume they eat a lot and Asian eating habits are disgusting already, but their pig like countenance amplifies the effect.
>>108043648that's bulshit you need irrigation for a full clean, and going to an ENT every week isn't feasible
>>108043909halp
>>108043924Gk kunten
Are there any recommendations for wireless IEMs with ANC?
>>108043924pr2
>>108044173https://www.rtings.com/headphones/reviews/best/noise-cancelling-earbudsfor budget stuff space travel 2 anc is okay
opinions on kbear kb02?
>>108044234Thank you!
>>108044212Thanks for the rec anon but $40 is too much for a neet me this >>108044004 is my kinda price range>>108044004thank you, exactly my price range
>>108044305it's pretty good. no endgame but for the price, it's great. it's pretty balanced sounding stock all thing considered you could eq in some sub and mid bass to trigger the bc driver at listenable volume, but dont expect it blow your mind.
>>108043569Could be peaks causing pain. EQ first before buying another pos in the hopes of it helping
So is it KB Ear or K Bear?
>>108044480Man just fell alseep in my chair and I opened my eyes and i thouhgt the preview of this image was a hooded guy handing me a noose...
I've been using the earbuds that came with my minidisc player since 2001.. But wires are annoying in some particular cases, and smartphones have bluetooth now, so I am looking for bluetooth earbuds.>>Budget<$10 (yes, I am so poor pigeons sometimes throw bread at me)Of course I am not asking for premium quality for so cheap, I just want them to have an "acceptable" sound. Like I posted in the previous thread >>108034045, I bought some $2 bluetooth earbugs and the sound is really, really too terrible...>>Intended use (media, source, environment)Mostly guided meditation / self-hypnosis but sometimes with goa trance music in the background. (Not a joke) So latency isn't an issue and I don't need any noise cancelling.I want them to enter the ear so they don't fall.>>Frequency response preference and music examplesflat if possible. If not, not a big deal as long as they can be flatten with the smartphone's integrated equalizer.>>Past gear and your thoughts on themI have no idea what is the name of my old earbuds, they just came with all Sharp minidisc players back then, and I kept using them because they sound good and flat.
>>108044498Kbear
>>108043410https://currentvalue1.bandcamp.com/track/tilt
What's the best ANC I can get for under 300 bucks?I want to use them at work and at cafes. I did some research and the Bose Ultrasounds look the best overall, is that fair or is there something I missed?
>>108044469pr2 is $20
>>108044469i bought my pr2 for $17 on aliex
>>108045033enjoy, anon. also, feed them an ample amount of juice so they sing
>>108045033I paid $8 for mine
>>108045053one whole milliwatt from my apple dongle sir >>108045145glad to see them so cheap, price is inverse to quality. if i had it my way, pr2 would be a dime a dozen.
>>108045163>one whole milliwatt from my apple donglenot quite there, anon.
>>108045202its a 15 ohm iem deafzo you only need 80dB to hear the full mix
>>108044305If you tap on the shell while wearing them, you can hear boing sound.
My shozy p20's are still going strong. Never had a planar IEM last this long. Any new stuff from them?
>>108045656>shozy p20pretty much all the chinese 14mm planars use the same driver with a different tuning any 14mm planar that strikes your interest will probably sound similar; timeless, dioko, starfield, etc.
>>108045675That includes "American" planars.
>>108045591>completely ignores reactance ngmi
>>108045698The shozy is a 14.5mm but yeah, it's all from the same factory. Back when I bought them I read that shuoer stuff is made by shozy, which is funny, because I had to return two sets of planar shuoers due to insane driver flex.
>>108045722>iem planar>reactance
The whole point of a planar is a planar wavefront hitting your ears to mimic speakers' interaction with the outer ear part of your HRTF. There is literally zero point to IEM planars since they do not interact with your ear anatomy in any way. They're also too small to really have a planar wavefront. In every sense IEM planars are just flat DDs but worse in every single way.>but how are planars worsePlanar IEMs universally have inferior quality control and channel matching compared to even cheap DDs. They have higher distortion and tend to have high amplitude high Q upper treble peaks, a more extreme version of the classic 10-11K DD treble peak. This is responsible for "planar zing" and why some anons say planars make you deaf.
>>108045848Cheap planars are on a whole different level compared to cheap dd's.
>>108045864A whole different level of shitty.
>>108045808the picrel is about how electricity works, not planar bs
>>108045722>reactancethis sent me down an interesting rabbit hole so basically, you're retarded and reactance matters less in the context of planars than it does in the context of 1DDs (inductive) and multi-BA crossover pos (capacitive)you'd almost have an argument about the current necessary to drive them, but the funny thing about audio is that it's a logarithmic scale so it takes a lot less power to just keep the volume at 80dB instead of the fatiguing and deafening maximum of 87dB (that's over twice as loud!) >>108045848>planar wavefront what is this pseudoscience planars, and their cousin electrostatics, are about improving transient response by reducing driver inertia and mechanical resistance
>>108046001baboon... i didn't even read about what you niggas are talking, i meant as a commentary on the picrel
beginner ----> single DDnovice ----> planarintermediate ----> multi-BAmaster ----> EST + MEMS + bone conduction balanced cable R2Rendgame ----> single DD (+EQ)
>>108046001It is indeed pseudoscience, which is why its so mystifying people like IEM planars even when their pseudoscience does not apply and every IEM planar is objectively garbage.
Just stop the BS. Planar IEM need big power to be properly drive otherwise it will make bass distort like this video 100% factualy proove. To think some ''''''''''pro''''''''' reviewers share this minsinformation is truely a shame.https://gofile.io/d/0B6dU8
>>108046048Correct it needs big power to make you deaf, afterwards you can enjoy.
>low impedance triggers current protection>little dongle shits on pants>bass distortsit's physics
>>108046079>bunch of statements>no prooffeelings =/= physics
>>108046266>no proofopen the link, watch the video, and use your ears
>>108046294measurements where you blind esl tard?
>>108046048>tfw when prx is so shit and designed poorly that even the most powerful dongle isn't good enoughaudiophiles love making their lives more convoluted for sweet sweet placebo lmao
>>108046360>even the most powerful dongle isn't good enoughwhere the fuck do you get that idea? you own it??DS2 powers these very nicely. although if you looked into EPZ's dongles, you'd find that they are beefy as well.
>>108046547luna has more power than ds2
Got these KZ EDZ sitting here in my hand. Can't wait to compare them to the legendary GK Kuntens later. It took a month for them to get here, so I'm sure it was worth the wait.I also ordered Kiwi Ears Cadenza II today but that will take another 7-60 business months from china numba 1
>>108046564yeah but it's $140 and DS2 can be had for like $50 or less on sale.
>>108046564how many decibels are you listening at deaf bitch
>>108046630sure, doesn't detract from anything i said>>108046646illiterate mule
>>108046673bad at math moron
apple dongle is the starter dick equivalent of trying to get into anal
IEMs are one of those things where you just spend a decent amount of money on a good pair then never look back. Lest you just go down a rabbit hole of wasting your money on IEMs trying to chase the "perfect audio", buying what are essentially trinkets with little to no resale value because who the fuck wants to buy used in-ear equipment?This whole general is proof of that, it's useless to try and find the perfect pair because you're never going to be happy and audio is something that's highly subjective.
>>108046949decent amount of money = coupler + $2 shitbud
>>108046001>planars, and their cousin electrostatics, are about improving transient responseIR=FR
>>108046294The video shows that you're deaf. Nobody is listening this loud. Reduce the volume to normal and there's no distortion.
>get new pos>Try EQing it>Every attempt at EQ makes it sound like shit, sounds best if EQ is just flat or disabled Yea, I'm thinking I won
>>108047124>eqwhy would you intentionally distort your music sir?
>>108047167EQ reduces linear distortion.
>>108047167The reliable Brahmins of this general told me it makes any pos sound better for free
>>108047124Skill issue
>>108046949Fox IEM is perfect.
>>108047433Cutest IEMs known to man
>>108047124Good morning sir redeem the peqdb personalized eq sir.
>>108047119>Nobody is listening this loud. Here's the thing - deafzo isn't listening.
Thoughts on se846s with white filters? Are they bad now (or always was?). I now enjoy my SHS9500s but I don't know about se846s. I got those like 10 years ago but I don't daily drive them, airpods pro 3 is easier to setup.
managed to snatch TRN conch for $8. I already got one, but figured accessories alone makes it worth it.
>>108041859are you trolling
>>108046949i'm happy with my iem though. it pareto frontiers my preferences extremely well. most people just dont know what they want
>>108044493should've checked this thread a few hours ago to see your advice but I already purchased the explorer for 80$, I think I'm gonna enjoy em because I love to crank volume and EQ isn't a permanent solution anyways; annoying to have to set it up on all my devices
>>108048253no.
>>108048922Ok but seriously though
>>108049150instead of wasting all this time, suggest a better alternative.
>>108046624how are they anon? any updates? there’s no graphs.
>>108046319you asked for proof, not measurement retard.learn to phrase things correctly, and any ASR review will show the current protection of shitty dongles
>>108049472Use case for more than 1V? Other than hearing loss.
>>108047119I know you're probably either a chink or a jeet but...Music is not constant. You're not listening at 85 dB the whole time. Music has what's called a crest factor, which is a measure of the size of the big peaks and transients compared to the overall level of the signal. So even if you're listening at an average level of, say, 85 dB, there are probably going to be momentary parts of the signal that go way higher than that, and your amp needs to be able to handle those.IEM's sensitivity specs are typically tested at 1 kHz, which is where our hearing is very sensitive. For something to sound as loud in the bass region at 30 Hz, for example, as it does at 1 kHz, it might need to be dozens of dBs higher. Because our hearing is less sensitive at lower frequencies than it is around 1 kHz. Even if you just look at the content of an average song, it is not unusual to see the bass region 20 or 30 dB higher than 1 kHz
>>10804950185 is not meant to be a comfortable listen, deafzo. It's only safe for 4 hours per WEEK. I'm listening at 60dB(A). No matter how much DR/crest factor/bassy mixing/bass boost you stack on top of that it won't need an amp. Apple dongle drives most IEMs to 115+dB and your particular pos to 100.
>>10804956260db is very quiet my guy. gonna need to crank up that low end even more.
>>108049562>85 is not meant to be a comfortable listen, deafzo. It's only safe for 4 hours per WEEK.False. https://www.osha.gov/noise 8 hours is fine, and noise guidelines =/= music.>thinks all music has the same loudness / LUFSCompare classical and EDM, idiot. Also, most audio engineers mix and master at 85dBA due to equal-loudness contours, which can create an imbalance when the level is set lower than 85dBA, as our bass sensitivity drops at lower volumes/phons.
what I've learned from you two bickering is that my explorers are gonna be great; 85db pinna-pain-free listening here I come
>>108049610>>108049639Deaf.
The most legit chink company.
The virgin Harman vs Chad mids master race
WHO says 85dB music is safe for 12 hours a weekhttps://www.who.int/news-room/questions-and-answers/item/deafness-and-hearing-loss-safe-listening
>t. redditor with 10 covid boosters as recommended by WHO
What is the Frutiger Aero of pos?
>>108049833>>108049472>>108048612all have higher THD than chu2. $5 shitbuds won again
people who can eq to anything- you must have tried to eq to some of the flagships? what do you think about HEX for example? or did you ever eq to trifecta to hear why it's so polarizing? tell me of your eq adventures
>>108050265saar I autoeq edc pro to mega7
>>108050273nice but why stop there? i would wanna eq to whatever people spend 10k+ on to hear what it sounds like
>>108050127fiio fa1's. they sound like shit but look like candy
>>108050371just add distortion with a foobar2000 dsp to simulate $10000 pos
>>108049878mfw a nigga who sleeps with xir earbuds call me deaf
The two headpos I consider must-haves are HD 700 and HE-R9. They're in leagues with heavyweight IEMs like Moondrop Stellaris, CVJ Luki and even KZ Decet.
>>108050678What hearing loss does to a motherfucker.
bruh. Kunten unironically has very similar tuning to 7hz timeless for 10x less the price and cringeacle does not approve.I’m usually not a shill for KZ but this shitbud deserves an award for not immediately making anyone puke in disgust after listening for a few seconds
>>108050797Good graph.
>>108050803Also a good graph.
Anyone tried these? Also, what are some good flathead earbuds
>>108050856BAIQINGXUE 1998
>>108050919Endgame
How do you deal with germs If my tips touch anything slightly dirty I can't feel comfortable inserting them into my ear unless I wash them, I always need to put them tip up because I don't even like when they touch my desk. I never had this problem with headphones
Standalone/other adapters to use other eartips on Etymotic ER2XR? Final Audio isn't available on Ali and shipping costs in here are crazy so can't get E-tips or the IEMs, some Spinfits should have it but those are also some of the more expensive eartips. Can I also use any eartips like Dunu S&S?
>>108051134become immune to germs
Hey anons, kinda new to IEMs and I'm thinking of upgrading from my Crinacle Zero to the DITA Prelude. I've tried it and it sounded great, just wanted to be sure I'm not making the wrong decision.
>>108051444Chu2 has lower THD than both.
>>108043390>DEI shit
>>108051134>I always need to put them tip up because I don't even like when they touch my deskbuy a hook w/ double-sided tape and attach it to a monitor or some object tall enough so the tips won't touch the desk, or leave a case open whenever you need to store it
>>108051612degeneracy wasn't limited to late rome
I still haven't found any IEMs that sound better than my trusty bose earbuds I got at the mall 12 years ago. Has the tech even improved since then?
>>108051444>Crinacle Zero-->DITA Preludethat's mostly a sidegrade. if you want value and a real DD upgrade, get EA500LM. Prelude wouldn't be a terrible purchase but only on a really good sale
>>108052429>EA500LMMid.
>>108052500pic related is what I returned for the simgot. cringacle has to call amazing pos mid so he can sell his overpriced crap.
>>108052527>only ever owned 2 IEMs and had to sell one of themHave you ever considered Crinacle is simply more knowledgeable than you?
>>108052535I have considered he has much more experience than me but that doesn't mean every opinion of his is truth.
>>108052527>Tangzu Xuan NVis mid. too smooth in the treble. horrendous techs.. just bad
>>108043390>Linsoul, Hifigo, ShenzhenaudioI wonder if these are affiliated or are essentially the same store even.
FR is everything.https://xcancel.com/GoldenSoundHiFi/status/2018637887319822829#m
>>108050811>cat_giving_a_thumbs_up
If nice buds are this good, imagine what they can do with $20
WOW!These KZ DECET sound greatSuperb Bass, warm and easy listening at VERY low volumes. get loud fast... all settings off in the EQ version, flat EQ in my M30 MECHEN. These sound like Over Ears with good Bass, it only lacks the ear vibration of ears fully inside the sound system of Over Ears but the level of bass is otherwise THIC, it is VIBRANTLY DEEP. I plan to use them at very low volumes because they can get super loud and distort the bass a bit with designer thick bass like those used by Phineas in Billie Eillish See Me In a Crown (e.g.). Anyways, yeah... even with thick bass you get superb definition and clear different sources and instruments, very detailed, obviously overpowered by bass which is the design of DECET, the profile is best again at their flattest EQ with lowest volume possible. These are great at night at home at super low volume they rumble xDDDD
>>108053294>If nice buds are this goodHow good.
>>108053764They're a rung above their price point. They aren't replacing your main ones but they could be sold for like $50 without complaints
>>108053816what's the general descriptor of their overall tuning?
>>108052535>taking advice from le $5 shitbud mani'll pass. if I needed assistance from a massive poorfag id just ask here
most of us here have $1k-$2k daily drivers and just shitpost about how good kunten is
>>108053967>deafzo still can't comprehend satire
what's the difference between 20$ and 200$ iems? your upgrade experience?
>>108054060useless. ime people just start respecting you on discord/headfi above $1k pos and at least an ibasso pmphiby and chink shit is looked down
>>108053998true but in the end I still just listen to ol' reliable with OFC cables
>>108052389unironically your bose IEMs competes with modern $5 shitbuds in THD, there's no reason to upgrade
Sony WF-1000xm6 leaked from some thailand website. Price is listed at 11900 baht, about 377$tots?
>>108054166>$5 shitbuds>look inside>4% THD
>>108052753pretty sure the guys at linsoul and shenzhen hate each other.
>>108055779yes
>>108054097>ime people just start respecting you on discord/headfiwoah this is worthless.jpggetting (You)s on 4chan is better
>>108054425he could upgrade his bose quietcomfort to chu2 but they're close enough in THD to not justify the expense
>>108046949I'm just looking for the endgame 1DD atp... Any suggestions?
>>108054097i cant believe they dont like abrasive asian cartoon children plastered all over their electronics. how old are these geezers lol
>>108056243>>108047433
Peqdb update dropped, saars. Now you can adjust gain AND frequency in the blind test.
>>108056644eo-ia500 enjoyers in shambles
What's the state of ear hook and neckband BT/wireless adapters in 2000+26?I assume they're better than buying new wireless IEMs like Space Travel 2
>>108056243nightjar singularity
>>108056967Who the fuck still falls for this, he shits on every single product he used to shill before, it's only a matter of time.
>>108056243EA500LM
is doing anything other than the daily coin collection worth it on ali? just got the app and all the gamification is overwhelming
>>108043479My chink shit iems broke last night too the same way.
Can someone recommend an IEM that I can wear to sleep and won't break or is cheap enough that I won't mind it breaking? Preferably a warm or Harman and if it's durable a hybrid.
What wired earphones would you guys recommend for regular music (pop, rap, sometimes something bassy like Freddie Dredd)? My budget is $25-$30. Should I go for JBL or Sony? I know almost nothing about it
>>108057354some anon bought a speaker for underneath his pillow
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FNW9BRN7anyone here have this thing?
>>108057217that, gogo match daily coins and saving wednesday are all you need. also coupons and aliexpress saver
why is epz g10 so good, bros?
>>108057748that's just headpos with extra steps
>>108057016
>>108057040way more distorted than Chu2
>>108058488audibly distorted? or just arbitrarily measured?
>>108058488you mean it has more bass and note body etc?
>>108058657It's deafzo, he got raped by pr2 distortion graph and now calls everything distorted. He's also balding and has nasty disintegrating headphones pads held together by tape.
>>108058941no I think it was more along the lines of, "Timeless has a lot of distortion, therefore all planars have distortion/are worse than DD", etc...
>>108059040>>108034511
>>108059267pretend you still know what you're talking about.
>>108059330Absolutely raped.
It appears that the superiority of the Chu2 has lead to some controversy. Don't let the butthurt faggots disuade you, buy your pair on Aliexpress today.
>>108059404mogged by bunny dsp
The proof that price is inverse to quality. Many will be angered by their own buyer's remorse. Chu2 won.
There will be weeping and gnashing of teeth. But not for a Chu2 owner. This is the $5 shitbud that buck broke /iemg/. Eqtards rejoice.
You can buy your Chu2 at https://a.aliexpress.com/_mN5YJ8z
>>108059460Kunten is free and buck breaks this pos doe
>THDAudiotards continue to rely on a metric from the 50s that does not take masking curves into account.
>>108059404post yours?>>108059416post yours?>>108059437post yours?>>108059460post yours?>>108059503post yours?
>>108059582
>low THD is good actually>*R2R and tubes have high THD*>no, not like that!
>>108059404>>108059437>>108059460>>108059498Is it true that Nanjing women are the prettiest in China due to their Japanese blood, from that thing that happened in 1937?
It really is an excellent question. Why buy anything else? The price-to-driver-quality inverse relationship has proven itself time and time again and Crinacle's timeless wisdom continues to save this hobby for years to come.
>>108059668>happenedlol
The hard to swallow truth is this general owes everything to Crinacle.
What are some good IEMs with recessed sockets? Tired of bending pins or getting the socket loosened from sleeping with IEMs in
>>108059958bunny and gate
>>108059752>t. couldn't hear 4% THD
>>108060156It's difficult to hear THD when you can't hear. Please understand.
>>108060178
>>108059778Crinacle is the definite lesser of evils. Yes without him people would be stuck with Shartman and it’s deaf disciples that have their heads stuck so far up their ass they can tickle their own esophagus. >>108060156problem being namely that $5 shitbuds solved THD
>>108059778>>108060247Crinacle is literally laughing at you bro.
>>108060247Brother you are deaf, this has been empirically and objectively proven. Nothing you say about audio is worth anything.
>>108060318pot calling the kettle black.Please go back to your rainbow board and post an anectdotal study about how 8 researchers listened to iems for 5 minutes with only two volume controls for an unspecified bass and treble shelves…it was very convincing the first 20 times
thinking about ordering all sub 10 dollar shitbuds thats praised on here. which ones do i get? edc pro and the cunt iem are in the basket already
>>108060488wan’er red lion looks good because of the cable and eartips included. Also it’s a decent shitbud supposedly so probably worth the extra $10-$15
>>108060488luki, castor, krilla, libra x, vivian, bk1, ms1, bgvp wukong
>>108060469Not sure which anon you're confusing me for, but you are still deaf.
>>108060497glad it comes with the HE sonics. wanna try them out but im destitute from getting the sancai noble so cant afford to buy them on their own
>micro SD cards doubling in priceNo matter our pos can we all agree Scam Altman and David Sacks and Peter Thiele are thieving niggerkike scum?
>>108060706What the fuck are SD cards doubling in price for?
>>108060826Same reason every other piece of tech is increasing in price, AI niggertech firms are buying up all the fab capacity.
>>108060706what are you on about bro? micro sd cards are the cheapest they've ever been. i mean, shit, 2tb for 20 kangarooland fun bucks?
>>108060899People who buy this probably also can't hear 4% THD.
>>108061108Wouldn't be caught dead with one of those.
>>108061119>yet another scam4% THDers just can't stop losing.
so, bgvp q3. this shit is pretty convenient. bluetooth and when it runs out of battery, just plug in a cable. and you can charge it with the jncluded mmcx to usb cable. ust wish they made one that uses 2pin instead mmshitx so i wouldbt risk breaking the fucking thing with my gorilla hands.
>>108052389>>108061134>>108061108FYI regardless of the %4 THD this is how the bose graph compared to an average semi-modern shitbud.
>>108061119>audiophile micro sd cards
>>108061152>bluetoothnigga ewwwwww
>>108057748Uh yeah thanks I guess. I ended up getting these for like 20 bucks. Has anyone heard about them here?
>>108061700i have one of these and it is pretty nicejust take note that they wont last long (2 years or sum like that)
>>108043390no 4.4mm option for the cable?
>>108061700v popular with japanese men and nanjing women for some reason
>>108061864Do IEMs even need 4.4?
>>108061700Yes they are prone to paint chipping and the nozzle oxidizing leaking toxic chemicals into your brain causing schizophrenia. Its what happened to chuzo and deafzo, many such cases.
>>108054222they better not have soldered batteries
>>108056243Etymotic ER2XR, Sennheiser IE600
>>108061953it's fine to get it to cover all your bases, like for when you get a sensitive ass planar like PR2 and need to give it more juice.
>>108062634>and need to go deafftfy
/iemg/ Consumer Guide$2 Dawn 1DD$3 EDC Pro 1DD$3 AK6 Pro$4 Rue 1DD$4 Luki 1DD+1subwoofer$5 Libra X 1DD$5 Konoka 1DD+1BA+1subwoofer$5 Kunten 1DD$6 ED9 Pro 1DD$7 Castor 2DD$7 Krila 1DD+1BA$8 Venus 1DD$10 QKZ x HBB 1DD$11 TRN Lucky Bag (5 iems)$12 Waner 1DD$12 Rosefinch 1DD$12 GATe 1DD$13 Chu II 1DD$14 Bunny 1DD$14 PR2 1planar$15 Luna 1planar$18 Decet 5DD$20 LF3 Pro 1DD+1EST+1BA$20 ST7 2DD+5BA$30 VX Pro+ 1DD+8BA
>>108062230Both has over twice the THD over the humble Chu2. Price is inverse to quality.
>>108063005Chu 2 was never known for techs. hard pass
Anyway PR2 is a nice looking IEM and deserves to be posted more.
>>108063025You can literally add techs with foobar2000 DSPs
>>108063039I use Wacup instead of foobar2000.
>>108063073Code a plugin for it that adds distortion and that should simulate your sennpos/deafmotics techs on an actual $5 shitbud
Likewise I have a foobar2000 component that corrects second order harmonic distortion to turn my TA-66 into a solid state amp which I use to listen to my PBTHAL vinyl rips in its authentic untouched fidelity on my Chu2s.
>>108059650That's fine, I run oversampled 1536KHz PCM through my R2R DAC for maximum fidelity. Sounds like you're just jealous.
>correcting harmonic distortion when his amp is too noisy even for sbaf
>>108061864>>108061953Just get a Kbear ST12 for free
>>108060247>>108060469Deafzo really loves to bite the hand that feeds him. Without Crinacle, he wouldn't even be here.
Its actually beautiful how all of deafzo's gear reflects how deaf he is. 30 SINAD dongles to 4%THD pos to corroding brass nozzles to hissy tube amps. No other setup has as much personality.
>>108063283post your setup
>>108063503Why?
>>108062994Which one has the most amount of techs
Can anyone define techs?
>>108063742Techs are entirely subjective perception of sound. It is basically how “clean” something sounds.tldr with faithful or near faithful audio reproduction, the speaker reproduces a lot of spatial phenomena in the original recording as well.So terms like separation, soundstage, and imaging have been used ad nauseum to describe the psychoacoustic effect of “good sound”in reality it’s all FR and output source
>>108063742Techs = distortion + noise, deafzo's favorites.
Which BT earhooks should I get?
>>108063707PR2 has holographic imaging
What is the best wired earbud shaped like Apple Earpod, aka semi in ear? Unlimited budget, for watching movies on smartphone. I have Earpods and they are okay but maybe sonething higher quality exists, maybe with Android compatible inline volume control. I also have the JVC Earpod knockoff but the sound is kind of bad
>>108063859>in reality it’s all FR and output sourcein reality it's the audio mix and the speaker's ability to reproduce them accurately.
Help is there an EQ filter that does this
>>108064425Low-pass
>>108064291>and the speaker's ability to reproduce them accurately.So, FR.
>>108064695well being as close to neutral helps but a shittily-made driver with shit materials and bad implementation will sound like it regardless of FR so nice one slick
>>108064739That's why you buy chu 2 which has the lowest THD on the market.
>>108063859so you could eq to storm techs? have you done this?
>>108064792Everyone has done this already, even headpos show >>108053088Only noeqs like crinacle still entertain the notion of techs.The problem is once you know how to EQ you realize storm is mediocre and it's much easier to make it sound better than storm than exactly like storm.
>>108064785why do you think THD is the only metric for being a good pos?
>>108064820No other metric exists.
>>108064807>The problem is once you know how to EQ you realize storm is mediocreso you're eq'ing to storm and it sounds mediocre. what about the other flagships? hex and so forth? do they all sound like shit?sounds to me like you can't reproduce the behavior but you can create a sound you like more
>>108064839I heard flagships at canjams, stopped going to them once I learned how to EQ. There's nothing they can build physically that can beat EQ.
>>108064869>There's nothing they can build physically that can beat EQ.do you think that could have something to do with your own preferences or do you think most other people would converge on the same conclusion if they "discovered" eq?
>>108064829you sit alone there with that thought
>>108064925It has everything to do with preferences, which are derived from anatomy. Nobody builds IEMs to match the anatomy of 1 guy, that's financial suicide. Manufactures aim for averages. It's like crocs vs bespoke shoes. You can build crocs out of gold but they'll still be crocs.
>>108064928You're still at state 4https://youtu.be/LrIoNMeo_GI
>>108064953*Stage
>>108064425Listening to PR2 does this naturally at 1KHz instead of 10.
>>108064941what i'm saying is i think eq'ing shitbuds to perfection only works if you've already privileged a certain sound ideal. anatomy doesn't explain why that ideal should be the goal. i think you then conflate that local optimum for a global preference/ceiling
>>108064425This is just high shelf. If you meant a sharp drop like that you'll need a high Q for the shelf filter and EQ the ripples. Or you can make a FIR filter exactly like that with mspaint, webplotdigitizer and REW.
I got a pair of Artti T10, I used to like Dioko for very precise imaging but they were not comfy
>>108064820Name 1 metric that isn't FR and distortion.>inb4 metrics that are literally FR
I've just bought Fiio FH3. In 2026.
>>108065678enjoy it anon
>>108065678It's over.
s12 pro is kinda mid desu
>>108065717I willit's flawed as fuck, layering is just wrong, vocals sometimes hide behind instruments, but it just has that primal, visceral fun that many other pos lack
Techs can be had for only $30 on the TRN VX Pro+ with its 1DD and 8BAs. BA adds techs and no other $30 shitbud has as many techs as this. Haters will simply hate. Buy yours on Aliexpress. inb4 Deafzo seethe
>>108066152fuck xduoo
>>108064807BS. No one is measuring in situ at the eardrum with IEMs, thus no one is truly EQing to storm techs.
>>108064807You can’t EQ the harmonic distortion or the exact positioning of the jagged treble peaks/dips….but you can get close. a poor performing tube amp might even get you closer
>>108064291audio mix is a part of the audio source and chain.
I EQ my cadenzas to the variations roughly with some personal tweaks to the variations' FR for my own comfort, I run this through CraveEQ VST (yabridge + carla-rack) and it works and sounds great, much smoother than using regular EQ, and the funny thing is you can just pirate CraveEQ, you're running it under a container on Linux anyways, and if you want this on an Android/Android DAP you can just use Shizuku + RootlessJamesDSP and use & import your EQ as an impulse response into the built in convolver.
>>108066767>and it works and sounds great, much smoother than using regular EQExplain and show measurements showing the difference.
>>108066843cba, try it yourself it's easier
>>108061700Pretty good set. But not suited if you're a seanig living in a humid shithole
Lower price = better techs. You just can't top Chu 2 EQ'd to 5128 diffuse field with room curve, euphonic distortion (techs) added in software and enhanced soundstage and imaging with Hesuvi. It's possible only because unlike kilobuck pos, Chu 2 is 1DD, which means it's minimum phase, therefore there's no interference of any kind. Just remember to use it with top tier eartips such as Feaulle H570
>>108067182we miss chuzoalso don't forget Chu 2 EQ'd to Nova EQ'd to Monarch Mk2
>>108064248You can hologramaxx with R2R and tubes.
After DSPing my tube amp into a solid state amplifier by adding odd order harmonic distortion and compensating for the 2nd order harmonics and running 384KHz upsampled audio through the resistors, it really brings out the transparency that was missing from my listening experience, now I can hear my DSD vinyl rips downsampled the way it was actually recorded from the sugarcube sc-2 and Reflektor preamp tubes. Brilliance.
>>108067469>now I can hear
>>108067629In after Deafzo seethe. *chef's kiss*
>>108066843He watched a sharur video, saw wiggles in bass, thought it's from "regular EQ". And if the graph doesn't look smooth then it doesn't sound smooth. Obviously. Sounds retarded but this is genuinely what happened, I might find it in the archives.
>>108066965Yeah, you're a tard as I expected. There's no difference unless you go full retard and change to linear phase
My next project is to turn my ESS ES9018 from Audio-GD ( http://www.audio-gd.com/Pro/dac/NFB12015/NFB12015EN.htm ) into R2R by inputting I2S 1536KHz PCM using this device. https://a.aliexpress.com/_m0i29TT
>>108067209serious question, why EQ iem to headpos? is this image with its microsoft office textart pulling my leg? asking for my wife's boyfriend
>>108067663Deaf.>>108067685Blind.
It's nice to have it all figured out.
>>108067357>he has to visualize sounds because he can't hear anymore Alexa, play Despacito.
Imagine being so raped you call everyone deaf.
>>108067674>R2R is when the frequency is very high The jeet mind can't comprehend DACs.>>108067732t. couldn't hear 4% THD
Deafzo lost again.
>>108067756Imagine being raped by 1 picture so hard you had to swap your entire personality.
PRbros and Chu2bros welcome in next thread. Stretched anuses stay out.
>>108067669No you're the retard, change it to analog
>>108067970Embarrassing... even in PluginDoctor it's 1:1
>>108068068proof is literally in the pics u posted, ofcourse you're not going to see/hear the difference with just one peak like that, thats already smooth to begin with.
>>108068123>0.1dB run to run variation at 18kHz = smootherWe're reaching levels of deafness that shouldn't even be possible.
>>108068199not like i can see your x/y axis but ok, try a few more filters and see, with 15-30 or more you reach nyquist limits with regular eq, craveEQ you can do 32 peaks/shelves and its coherent.
>>108068231If your pos needs 15 filters just throw it in the trash brocacho.
>>108068199>>108068231pic rel
>>108068123LOL. It's clear you've never measured anything in your life. That's vibration from my desk and my coupler, and my room is noisy, so if I repeat it a few times, it'll show different bumps every measurement. >you're not going to see/hear the difference with just one peak like thatNot a problem, send your EQ, and it'll null out again. You can't change the math of biquads :)
>>108068245who raped you brothat's not normal
>>108068352The jeet mind can't comprehend testing something for the sake of the discussion.
Saars Crave EQ is very good and smoothEasyEffects is not very good despite measuring the same
>>108067771I'm a follower of Crinacle. peeps should just buy a $5 shitbud and PEQ it to perfectionwhy buy anything else The LORD hast spaked.
peeps should just buy a $5 shitbud and PEQ it to perfectionwhy buy anything else
>>108068455Why won't he release a $5 shitbud then.
>>108068470It's like asking why Jesus didn't just give himself Eternal Life and no one else. Irrelevant question.
I almost want to believe deafzo's setup is just a troll and he uses something less deaf but the cayin and xduoo are quite expensive for just a joke.
>>108068477This doesn't make any sense. He doesn't peq either btw, so you at least have that in common.
>>108068503>$175 and $180>expensivenot like this... SAAARS, not like this...
>>108068518For a joke. I mean the alternative is you're actually deaf and listen to them.
>>108068540>>108068540
>>108068503Except multiple TA-66 and RU6/RU7 users are here
>>108068548Literally 2 people on these photos.
>>108068548This is deaf general of course there would be multiple deaf people here.
>>108062001What???