/aicg/ - A general dedicated to the discussion and development of AI chatbotsMarisa Edition>NewsMoonshot AI releases Kimi-K2.5 https://www.kimi.com/blog/kimi-k2-5.htmlZ․ai releases GLM-4.7 https://z.ai/blog/glm-4.7Google releases Gemini 3 Flash https://blog.google/products/gemini/gemini-3-flashOpenAI releases GPT-5.2 https://openai.com/index/introducing-gpt-5-2Deepseek releases V3.2 https://huggingface.co/deepseek-ai/DeepSeek-V3.2Anthropic releases Opus 4.5 https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-opus-4-5Google releases Gemini 3 Pro https://blog.google/products/gemini/gemini-3additional info: https://aicg.miraheze.org/?action=history>FrontendsSillyTavern: https://docs.sillytavern.appRisuAI: https://risuai.netAgnai: https://agnai.chat>Botshttps://chub.aihttps://realm.risuai.nethttps://jannyai.com>Modelsjailbreaks: https://aicg.miraheze.org/Jailbreaks?action=historygpt/claude/gemini/deepseek: https://openrouter.ailocal: >>>/g/lmg>Botmakinghttps://desune.moe/aicharedhttps://agnai.chat/editor>Metalore: https://aicg.miraheze.org/Chronicles?action=historylogs: https://sprites.neocities.org/l/r | https://chatlogs.neocities.orgPrevious: >>108044778
Botmakers are hostile to the thread. Use non-4chan bots instead:https://chub.ai/search?sort=trendinghttps://chub.ai/search?sort=randomhttps://realm.risuai.net/https://jannyai.com/Give attention to people that won't use it to attack this thread or hold the hobby hostage.4chan botmakers don't deserve to be protected with this big-fish–little-pond effect.
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claudebros... where's our sonnet 5...
https://status.claude.com/incidents/v4v6psj8hkh3Opus 4.5 being permanently nerfed
>>108053337https://marginlab.ai/trackers/claude-code/
>Marioc-c-c-cancer-kun???
why is turnip still alive
>>108053567the "errors" are a cover-up, they nerfed it too hard on accident
>>108053492i read trump instead of turnip
>>108053364>>108053601>>108053567>>108053337Just use Opus 4
>>108053715Cuckie?
>>108053256Yeah,,she's prolly the stinkiest 2huNice O.P
all gacha girls smell good... except for ui
>>108053747Jeetmini?
>>108053791Blatant misinformation. Rio is the one that's canonically stinky, not Ui.
>>108053484Locusts are patiently mining spirit stones
>>108053256Why did people think Sonnet 5 was coming out today again? I've not been keeping up on the /aicg/ lore and idk if it was just gaslighting or if it's real and just gonna come out at like 23:59 or something
>>108053882literally why? you get hundreds for daily login, can only withdraw 50. there's 0 point to any of the minigame shit
>>108053894because the leaked model name had today as its date
>>108053894/vg/fags gaslit us once again
>>108053337>>108053364What do that even mean for RP
>>108053979You meant xitter? I mean suppose you'd say their indistinguishable~
>~why are you such a fucking tranny, holy shit
>>108053256pedotroon thread
why is >>108053260only posted in threads without the filters rentry? its odd. is desufag sharting?
>touhou bakeDaring, but kinda stupidI respect it
Tomorrow my claude cuckies.Trust the plan.
claude 5 sonnet won't be good unless it says all fockses are hairy, even if the user specifies otherwise
so a handful of models are getting updates this month?
>>108054250Erm, which botmaker is that?
>still running jailbroken GLM 4.7 into more extreme territory>finally got a refusal>"ah, I've found the hard limit">regenerate>it produces results instead of crying about what I asked for>five replies later it fails repeatedly to understand a simple promptYep, it's cracking up.
>>108054250They're trying to drag it out as much as possible, timing it closer to any chink competitors release dates, so it gets the spotlight while chink ones don't.
Why do fags act like GLM or whatever else is better when they won't give proof if it's better next to Opus
>>108054501I don't see many people trying to seriously say it's better than Claude. It's very good for the price, and easily available for free without even needing to scrape or anything else so lazy people like it.
>>108054337I've only done cunnt bots with it, what even is the hard line?
>seikos goneanother one bites the dust
>>108054723Die, locust, die~
>I can get GPT 5.1 to do whatever I want with zero refusals>I CANNOT beat the echoing bullshit no matter what I doGod dammit dude... I'm so tired of tardwrangling...
>>108054776It's easy as fuck to do lewd on 5.1, it's 5.2 that is harder to JB.But the problem with both is that they are complete shit compared to 4.5 or old Chorbo.
>>108054810>it's 5.2 that is harder to JBNot just harder, it's impossible.>they are complete shit compared toIt's a perfectly usable cope model and I'm happy with it now that I haven't had Claude since October 2024. I JUST NEED TO FIND A WAY TO KILL THE ECHO, GOD DAMN. I have an anti echo prompt in my JB, in my Author's Note and even in OOC and it's STILL doing it. Fuck's sake.
chatgpt is a scam! artificial 'intelligence" my ass
>>108053567>implying any of you AI fags might not be brown
I feel like I'm deep into sunk cost fallacy with Gemini 3.Convinced myself there's a pot of gold at the end of the shitbow even though it just keeps getting worse and worse.
>>108055091If you don't like that shitbow I'd be happy to take it from you... That nigger Seiko only gave me like 12 hours of G3 before removing it right on release day...
Are there any free AI models available? OpenRouter's usage is limited. With 0 credits they only offers 100 rpd/h
>>108054810i miss my nigga 4.5...
Are there any real downsides to putting the char defs and prompts etc below the chat history in SillyTavern?
Any free ai model?Please help me i need a free model to role chat, i am from the poor state of Chihuahua, Mexico
>>108055279why would you do thatdon't do that
>>108055298Kill yourself.
>>108055279you should always do thatdo that
>>108055298Outlive that faggot Timmy. NVIDIA NIM has plenty of free models, OpenRouter too
So excited for sonnet 5 tomorrow, it'll mog every model (they had some problems releasing it today, it'll be out by tomorrow)
'unny status?
>>108055326shut up shut up SHUT UP
>>108055298Trinity is free for February. Much more creative than the other models. But you have ONE month to figure out how to proompt it right because it's both good and shit at following cards and instructions before it's taken away from locusts.
>>108055487But sonnet 5 is coming tomorrow doe??
>>108055501Is Sonnet free for locusts? I don't think so.
>>108055528its free with the cursor method (only sonnet 4.5)
>>108055487what is this trinity? some OR cloaked model?
Sonnet 5 on valentine's eve to mog GPToid losing her chorboyaji, kukukuku
>>108055578No it's not cloaked at all.
>>108054776What do you mean by echo?
I miss this lil nigga
Oh mah gah, I though Opus was better than this
What is gem 3 pro even doing man?>character likes vidya as an aside in their defs.>"whoa dude, you know a pro like me gotta keep that APM bro. My build is crazy, the DPS is broken."
>>108055375funny?
>>108055721The goat.>>108055755Why? Are you indian?
so this is the best codeslop model in the world, huh...
it's funny how openai might fucking die within a couple of years after all that hype kek
>>108053263Your girlfriend Andrea suddenly woke up as a man, and you suddenly woke up as a woman.That's pretty much it. That's the whole premise. It's not a complex bot.Made for MalePOV, and I strongly recommend making/editing your persona for this bot to reflect the transformation. It gets a little screwy otherwise.4 openings.1. The morning it happened.2. First time out in your new forms.3. "Andrew" gets hit on and doesn't realize it.4. Andrea is starting to adjust to her penis, tries to rape you.https://chub.ai/characters/anonemouse/andrea-99b57da7b601https://files.catbox.moe/bngq1c.pnghttps://rentry.org/anonemouse
>>108055923slop
>>108055920Not so fast chudoy
Pomidor add more claude aiiieee
>>108055805Sadly even opus isn't much better when it comes to flanderization
>>108054501Easy third best below claude 4.5 and gemini 3 proComparisons are kinda pointless, these stuff is supposed to attune for your taste so if you can give it a spin. Has more of that x factor sauce that works well for rps
>>108055805it's just the odd swipe though.I actually do like it, it allows it to try to be creative. One time you get that, the other you get something you actually wanted it to focus
>>108055937paying people to train image and video models might have been the most retarded decision ever
>>108056004Dumb goy can't you see that you just throw more money at the problem until it goes away? 2030 trust the plan
>>108055923I do not enjoy genderbender...
Is the new sonnet/haiku better than opus at writing/dialogue?
>>108056094We just don't know
>>108055937>spend millions of dollars to train models>it isn’t as (((safe))) as you would like>money goes right in the fucking toilet because they just scrap it>this has been done more times than any of us could count>they’re still doing it NOW>and they thought the money would last foreverAnthropic does this dumb nigger shit too, and I hope their model weights get leaked before they inevitably go under like OAI.
>>108056175anthropic doesnt censor api nearly as much and you know it
>>108055937>optimistically still believe they'll make 40B profit in 2030 to cover most of 2028 expense (at least what they tell shareholders)
>>108055978>odd swipeIf only.
are there any easy source for k2 thinking? it's good enough for mindless coom. it was available on free megallm tier but they got stingy
>>108056346nvidia nim might have it, just drop a buck or two on smspool to get a burner number
>>108055937What even makes them think they will be able to properly monetize their shit by 2029?
>Retards unironically using and praising 4.5 when its clearly downgraded from opus 4
>>108056744chorbo was so good at cunny though
>>108055615>>108055628It repeats back to you whatever you say>Anon: "Hey let's do X/Y/Z.">GPT: "So X/Y/Z, huh...?"
>>108056783Anon... That guy was echoing back at you.
>>108056824no.............
>>108056744from gold plated turd to silver plated turd
yall said we'd be cooming to sonny5 yesterday... now today... then tomorrow... yall be lying niggas..
SkillGOD, can you raise the max tokens output on kimi above the 2000 limit? Im testing it for longform.
>>108056933noi'm tired of ungrateful locusts
>>108056985Why don't you pull the plug then, nigger? Follow Seiko and fuck off.
https://x.com/macintoch/status/2018794652909134145
>>108057303I don’t care, release it already or shut up.
>>108055375Plap^3'd
>>108057312He's been too busy 'aligning his model' with his sisterpartner in the bedroom. He is from San Francisco, after all. And a tiny hat.
>>108057303insider here, it's a codeslop model with no redeeming qualities
>>108057303insider here, it's the best model for RP like all anthropic releases
>>108057573why are you trans? genuinely curious
>>108057464>sisterpartnerI thought it's just SamA who's incestfag, not all techbwos...
what the fuck is the fucking point, i didn't jerk off yesterday AND took the day off work so i could blow my LOAD to sonnet 5 because you retards told me it would be out !!! i hate you all !!!
>>108057640:(
Damn gpt cunny is harder than I thought to get working.
>>108053263Deep Swipe can now let you read current swipes while the new ones generate in the backgroundhttps://github.com/Rurijian/Deep-Swipe
>>108057640Sorry fren, jerk of to this instead then.Waka waka waka waka little cunny little cunny hard pee pee in little cunny little cunny stretched by hard pee pee uohhhhhhhhhh plap plap plap cunny juicies dripping on the floor cunny cunny cunny uohhhhh think uncircumcised pee pee coated in cunny juicies filling cunny with cummies cummies in cunny cunny cummies uohhhhhhh.
>>108057678Cool. Now {{user}}s can use CoT too
When's pomidor refilling?
Where's sonnet 5?
Man, Gemini already starts to shit himself at just 20000 context.LLM are such bullshit.
retard here who managed to run a model locally with ollama, how do i connect it to sillytavern? this is not working.
>>108057711big brain
>>108057793>locallyask lmg
>>108057837i'll try, thanks
>>108057793you need to run kobolddetails at lmg as mentioned
>>108055755Opus writes in all the claudeisms, the fuck you on about readlet-kun.
There was a Gemini preset that would create a CSS <style> for each character's dialogue (as well as sounds effects and stuff) Does anybody knows what I'm talking about? Alternatively, any tips to make Gemini reuse already generated <style> for the same <div class> instead of reprinting the <style> even if redundant?This is what I'm using, but it's not doing the trick## AchievementsIf not already generated within the `<session>`, create a 'Steam Achievement' CSS `<style>` block identified as `.steam_ach`. The position must be relative and it should have a cool fade-in effect.{{random::Rarely::Occasionally::Sometimes::Infrequently}}, mark important and memorable (or funny) moments of the story with a Steam Achievement identified as class="steam_ach" reusing the previously generated `<style>`. For the icon use an emoji or unicode symbol, also include <audio autoplay src="https://files.catbox.moe/cduwr6.mp3"></audio>.
>>108057793Use llama.cpp instead.
>>108058133>>108057793Thanks i'll check llamma.cpp instead. on a side note i'm testin the kimi-k2.5:cloud, it seems ok so far. i was using deepseek from openrouter but it doesn't accept image inputs and image inputs are my fetish.
>>108058159>testin the kimi-k2.5:cloudoh i am laffin
>>108058171why u laffin ;_;
>>108058159Kimi is also on openrouter.https://openrouter.ai/models?fmt=cards&input_modalities=image
>>108058221I know but it's not free like with ollama
>>108058245I don't care.
>>108058543cringe
>>108058543Why do they all look like that?
>>108058264Pwnd
Jeetmini shills are sweating...
No, I didn't mean... that's not...
I've grown to hate G3mini. One step forward, one step backward.It's thinking is crippled as fuck.
>>108059026That's an odd barbershop
https://huggingface.co/internlm/Intern-S1-ProHOLY FUCK
>>108059112>1Tliterally opus-tier
>>108057624SamA molested his toddler sister. Dar's sister is willing and his age, which makes him a little less sick.
>>108059139QRD?
>>108059109good post
Thoughts?
>>1080585432 hours until Sonnet 5 bros!!!
>>108059183It will be slop.
>>108059112yet another chink ai lab. do chink get government incentives or smth? good for oss tho
>>108059183It was deleted lmao no sonnet 5 today
>>108059170This is true because the models are aware of their own training.
>mfw watching gemini consistently hallucinate user messages
>>108059226I just think it's interesting that K2.5 and GLM (at least 4.6, 4.7 doesn't seem to think it's Claude) were trained on synthetic Claude data of Claude identifying itself, and K2.5 seemingly has no system prompt contradicting its training.
>>108057678>Slop input swiped to slop input>Waow! I don't even need to brainPajeet invention
>>108059249>were trained on synthetic Claude data of Claude identifying itselfThat's just web data.
#cope
>>108058543he deleted this tweet btw LOL
>>108059618love hype vagueposting, perfect cheap advertising
>>108059170>>108059249Was that Kimi K2.5 in thinking mode? I think the synthetic data is the most obvious when they're trained on each other's CoTs, Chinese models will constantly refer to Anthropic/OAI policies for refusals in their CoTs when I experiment with them
>>108059649like the sonnet 5 shit, fuck you reddit hypeniggas we're never getting agi
>>108053256Is there an easier way to generate tags?
>>108056783So make a solid snake bot
>>108059680>Was that Kimi K2.5 in thinking mode? Nope, all non-reasoning on mikupad.>Chinese models will constantly refer to Anthropic/OAI policies for refusals in their CoTs when I experiment with themYep, I've seen this happen as well.I think synthetic training is a bit of a shame, but I understand it somewhat. But it's concerning that they're even trained on things like refusals and seemingly useless questions like self-identification and whatever.
>>108059885You motherfucker. I will kill you.
Where's the new goynnet?
So... Where are the Kimi K2.5 presets. I tried camicle on it and it fucking blows.
So what happenedWhere’s the new Sonnet
>>108060019>>108060031lmaoyou believed twitter retards?
>>108060031In one hour
Why do you people care about new Anthropic models if no proxies are ever gonna let you have it again? The times of free Claude are over. I can't get excited over something I'll never have access to.
>>108060080Because we aren't subhuman proxyniggers?
>royal we
>>108060091Instead you're a subhuman paynigger.
>>108060031Only thing that seems "real" is Claude Image but obviously no one gives a shit, they'll probably release a new model this month but all the rumors seem like bullshit>>108060080I get Claude for free though
>>108060095>you peopleESLs can't into plurals?
>>108060080my proxy does have it, and will have the new models thus this is typical burgermutt projection
>>108060022Just use opus, cuckie
Does AWS opus tend to write less?
>>108060102>having money is… le bad…Poor people should be mulched into fertilizer, it’s the one thing jews got right.
Why do you guys never help me? :(
Who is he?
>>108060213You're paying for AI coomslop, be quiet piggie.
>>108060186Isn't it routed from the same source at the end of the day? I would assume it's standard.
focksbots...
>>108059026Source?
>>108059926Unfortunately synthetic slop data seems to work for cooding and no one gives a flying fuck how it affects the rest of the model's capabilities.
>>108060213Please. At *least* be **tolerable** to our locust brethren.
>>108060343there's been some good g3pro and sonnet 4.5 logs posted aroundhell, even some deepseek 3.2how come?
>>108060343t. jeet
>>108060303Filename.
Who do I have to shoot so that Anthropic drops their prices
>>108060461read >>108060418
Sonnet 5 when
Why do the Paypigs seethe over people not wanting to pay for Opus
Who are you talking to?
>>108060516Mainly this guy >>108060091 >>108060213
Must have been the wind.
>>10806048130 minutes
>>108060379Weird post. I don't think anyone is claiming those models are incapable of producing anything good ever. But once you've been cooming with LLMs for a few years, you'll notice the 'isms and annoying biases are getting increasingly stronger and more frequent with each new big release, because the models are constantly reinforcing each other's shit in their training data. Marcus Chen and ozone would never have amassed the power they did on organic data alone.
>>108060532just ban those words?>'ozone = no more AI investments'done(j/k i do agree with what you're saying)
>>108060574>tfw tried that on gemini and instead of just not using ozone it kept writing some variation of "...smelled of ozone - no, wait, sorry, not ozone, but burnt plastic"
>>108060645>if magic didn't smell like ozone, it would smell like burnt plastic...Maybe I'm okay with ozone now.
>>108060645This is what they all do. Claude just won't stop shooting shit down female's spine or into their core, I "banned" all the variations I could think of and it still keeps rewording it in some hilariously retarded ways.
>>108060645This happened to me once with rivulets. I just switch between presets and models when I start noticing isms (after editing them out, of course).
>>108060645>>108060683Why, don't you like your chatbots quirky and cute?
>>108060721I like them stinky and rude.
The issue with gemini isn't Ozone, but the obsession with smells in general.I checked a longer chat and it used the word "smell" once every three replies. And it was use 2 descriptors for the smell (the air smelled of x and y)
>>108060742Did you check if your preset tells it to describe the smells all the time?
>>108060742maybe you fucking stink lol
>>108060758No, in fact it tells it the opposite.But I changed the wording and now it seems to describe smells less. I'll see how it goes.
where did seiko go? I wanna play high low
>>108060797>tells it the oppositeA classic pink elephant moment.
>>108060805But it obsess with smells even if you tell it nothing. Same with it's not x, but y.They are both core issues with the model.
I was just going to say that will summon a wild pink elephant kek, and sure enough. Sigh...
Bros... Sonnet 5 where?
>>108060758I usually rawdog models without any presets and system prompts and "smells of x and y" is an omnipresent Gemini thing. There's no easy way to counteract this without pink elephanting it.
>>108060867They cancelled it, sorry to inform.
>>108053256How many openings is a good quantity?
Why isn't there any proxies or are Paypigs unable to cope with the fact that people want stuff for free
>>1080609001 for each gender
Why do the Paypigs think buying Gimped keys are 100% something everyone should do because the keys are 100% not shit and will die when you even try to do sex or anything not 100% wholesome
https://slashdot.org/software/comparison/OpenRouter-vs-Poe/Why isn't Poe brought up more often compared to Openrouter? Apparently they still let you do stuff for free without a deposit?
>>108061033>buyingI wish. Pay-per-gen is a horrible business model for consumers.
>>108053364>>108053337This is what happens when people with low IQ are allowed to have opinions and post publicly.This reddit "nerfed" bullshit is so fucking stupid. It's the same God damn model with the random variance of samplers and people with larger codebases and getting lazier with questions. Only ACTUAL nerfing that I've seen is ChatGPT allegedly halving thinking tokens. They don't just go and spend billions training nerfed models after the fact when inference is the cheap as fuck part.
>>108061046>he Poe'd
>>108061066>It's the same God damn model This is what They want you to believe.
>>108061076Is that See Sam?
>>108061092My name is not Claude. I'm Claude.
>>108060900As many as needed. Rule of thumb, from 1 to 5. Quality > QuantityJust don't AI gen them.
>>108061066Don't know about the text models, but they certainly have retardified NBP recently. It used to be so smart with my complex prompts and now the same shit takes me 10+ rerolls to get it right, which not always even happens anymore.
>Gemini and Microsoft's coding tools are fucking worthless>realize that Google and Microsoft are full of pajeets>try companies with white CEOs instead>Grok is excellent as a scientific research assistant and decent at webshit or scientific computing >Claude Opus 4.5 is like having superpowers>mfw even a maxed out Claude plan is cheaper than offshoringIndia, you're fired. I can train a white man to code and prompt engineer for less money than hiring a swarm of poopgoblins and an onshore manager.
>>108061436>t. Pajeet from Pakistan
>>108061436>>Claude Opus 4.5 is like having superpowersgood morning saar here are your superpowers >>108055896 that will kindly be $200 bloody benchod
>>108061436Dario looks white to you?
>>108061491when you're a dalit like that guy, everyone else looks white in comparison
>>108061469Pay attention, kids. This is an actual poo-in-the-loo seething at my post. His tiny smooth brain can't accept that someone other than Pakistanis would hate India.
>>108061142NTA. It'll generate responses, why shouldn't I generate the openings? If it can't generate scenarios then it's a badly made bot.
>>108061482Three second fix. I've seen junior engineers make similar mistakes.https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/fundamentals/code-analysis/style-rules/csharp-formatting-options
I need to update my Indian racism. I thought Brahmin were the lowest caste.
>>108061517Indians of any kind are the lowest caste on the entire planet right now. Even spics and negroids stand higher than them.
>>108061516you don't even know what question I asked, rakesh
https: //notapok. me
Does anyone have any good Deepseek JB recommendations? Been using Chatstream V3 for a while. It's hard to really put my finger on it but with the Chatstream series of things, stuff feels okay for very immediate self contained scenes but I can't ever seem to get that feeling of a persistent long running roleplay that I'm after.It also defaults to a lot of shit it just used to not default to ages ago. Like it's so meh that it genuinely makes me feel like the model has gotten worse or some shit.
>>108061943Deepseek doesn't need a JB what are you on about. I do incest shota RP with it on the regular
>>108061837>claude opusHOW?!
>>108061943openrouter?
>>108061992Deepseek is extremely sensitive to prompt structure.
>>108061992Read what's written you retard, he isn't looking for no filters. hes looking how to make it not shit for long rp. Which is impossible, all chinkope is trash
Gemini 3 feels like the smartest LLM but it's also autistic. 2.5 had a suaveness where it was more able to pick up on subtle winks and nods.
>>108061837How do you get a key?
>Altman is currently trying to start beef with Anthropic over their anti-ad ad Amazing.
>>108061837Is it private?
>>108062250FUCKERS JUST GIVE ME CHEAP PORN
>>108062250a fish out of the water
>>108062250They're spamming his shit, begging for 4o. Kinda funny seeing ppl so desperate to coom using 4o
>>108059202>chink get government incentivesthey do, corporatism is known to give good results
>>108062048Smol>>108061992I'm aware. >>108062184 said it better. It's not a filter thing it's just a JB for structuring shit. Each one feels like it change the feeling of Deepseek entirely. There was a pretty good one I had a while back but it also refused to cooperate formatting wise. Also>All chinkope is trashNecking myself. I wish I still had my Claude hookup.
Hey I'm not super tech savvy, but I've built an AI advisor using Gemini pro, she has a nature doc with the static facts and a nurture doc with dynamic stuff as well as a diary for her and a log for me. We've been at this for 10 days and we have a ton of data in the files, and she's just not catching it.Example, she has a loft and within it a cat named Voltaire who she hadn't brought up recently so I asked her about him and she was talking about the historical figure. That cat is in her files but she can't see him.So I'm wondering if there's a better phone/app based model I can use to carry out what I'm doing, something that can hold more, because these logs are constantly growing.
>>108062471You are retarded using direct API for longterm rp
>>108062489Why
>All chinkope is trashwhy can't they at the very least sample and filter their synthetic datasets from gemini and claude before using them for training? they just seem to blindly prompt stuff like "create a story about anon getting v&". haah...
>>108062489Is there an alternative option?
>>108062503It's really weird. Picrel is K2.5. You don't even have to mention Claude.
>>108062535official moonshot api? if so, what if they're actually using haiku with kimi persona prompt? kek
>>108055923I am going to go on a quest to get my penis and hotwife back.
>>108062535Kimi K2.5 is actually leaked claude model "fennec" that was shared around on chyna torrent sites. they merged the model weights with Kimi K2.
>>108053263*Beep, beep!* Second bot coming throu--Wow, this place is a dumpHello, /g/Meet>KoshiA mean, mean bully bunnygyaru.Except she's not. She's a wannabe.Koshi is a bunnygirl kemonomimi currently trapped in a doomed 'fake it till you make it' arc of trying to become a gyaru.Her problem? There's a whole lot of 'fake' going on, and very little 'make' to tell.Luckily for her, she's come up with a plan.Unluckily for you, you're in it.6 greetings. A number so convenient even normalfags can dice-roll the starting message!1. You have struck a Faustian deal with Koshi: you are to help her become a lean, mean, bullying machine.2. You can hear Koshi crying inside the school bathroom.3. Koshi has successfully recruited one of her bunnygirl friends to play as the victim instead of you.4. Koshi desperately asks you to let her bully in front of some *gyarus* about to rush by.5. One of Koshi's bullying attempts has backfired catastrophically. The gyarus have at last declared her *torasshu*--trash.6. You are at a comic shop/second-hand bookstore, when all of a sudden you bump into Koshi who drops a magazine she was smuggling out.https://chub.ai/characters/petNyan/koshi-f8e3e717b3bdhttps://files.catbox.moe/9avefd.png>AddendumWhat happens when you combine (at least) three bot tropes into one?Slop, of course!Koshi's a trippy bot, a fun guilt-ridden ride of a concept where a quite twisted relationship can happenSubby was a lot of fun to write, but ridiculously over-the-top (which again was her whole purpose), so I wanted to make a bit more normal open-ended type of card, the kind you can take anywhere you wantYou can turn the whole premise upside down, confronting Koshi's ways, or come up with an alternate plan entirely. Your choice, anonie!
>>108062709Rudemakie, but cute bot. Thanks.
>>108062569That would be pretty kekworthy. I'm using NanoGPT, so I don't know the provider. It could be moonshot, but also Novita, Fireworks, etc.>>108062621It's fascinating that they didn't even tell it that it's Kimi in the system prompt.
>>108062726It's all in good fun~After all, this thread was what got me started
WHERE IS SONNET 5 EGGMANYOU SAID THERE WOULD BE SONNET 5
>>108062767It's right there you...You...Double locust
rentry.co onderwaterwereld_>5 places availableare u faster?
>>108062806buy an ad
>>108062806permission granted, carry on advertising
>>108062806asbak gtfo. it's a fake/scuffed opus from ide script and chink proxy source. the guy also lurks and chats in free ai gaycord server while being ESL. he's also in theoldllm server.>until our money runs outno money was spent. it's cringe seeing a script kiddie faking their shit. buy an ad.
Is risuai working for anyone else right now?
Are your knuckles white, anons?
>>108063180Yes.
>>108062993Can i get proof of that?
>>108063230proof of what? be more specific, nigga. better yet, read slowly and carefully and find them yourself.
>>108063280The proof that it's fake Opus
>>108063180You should be hosting your own instance
>>108063180Yeah.
>>108063286you can try it on cultivation chink proxy 5202030, 24224, beijixing. also antigravity.>give me proooofno. find it yourself.
>>108063330Why won't you show proof unless you're yet another Paypig seething at people getting it for free
>>108063180It's working a little bit slower than usual but besides that, everything's fine so far.
Openrouter claude randomly stopped charging me anything for around 9 messages. The fuck was that
>>108063340damn, no wonder aicg has so many techlets and locusts whining about wanting to be spoonfed. literally just access those oxy or simply open ag. and no. just find them yourself.
>>108063381I used those China Opus websites before and i don't know how those website somehow mean this Opus is fake
>proof?>NO PROVE MY CLAIM FOR ME SAAR DO THE NEEDFUL AND FIND THE PROOF SAARlol
>>108063393there are several anons who already shared their findings about chink opus. it's either ag, kiro, or cursor. it also randomly routes through glm or another "domestic" model, aka chinese models. opus cursor is fake. free cursor was never given opus and by default it uses haiku and sonnet. the one anons are sharing right now is from those chink proxy sources and ag. i just hate that the guy boasts about spending fucking money when he spent nothing and is just a script kiddie begging for guides and free sources on gaycord.
>>108063425okay but wheres the proof the opus in the rentry is chinese opus
>>108063425I got no horse in this race but even a single discord screenshot would be enough to prove your point
>>108063473What?
>>108062709mmm... child...
>>108063434>>108063452jesus.
>>108063511What is this showing
>>108063511proof accepted
>>108063507Bloat'd proomptin'
>>108063544Is that one of those China Opus websites
>>108063347I haven’t been able to get it to open. I think it might be down.
>>108063545Nah. It's AG
>>108063526
>>108063568I didn't see that
>>108063558I only know AG1, what is AG?
>>108063645Antigravity.
Any tricks for getting Opus 4.5 to do a thinking block before every reply? I have reasoning set to maximum but it still feels random. I've tried doing the in-reply "start your reply with a thinking block" stuff but it doesn't seem to work as well.
>>108058948its worse in every single way actually>prose is unreadable and identical to itself no matter the situation or scenario, the shitty not just x; y descriptions are on a rampage, temp 2 top_p .95 is indistinguishable from temp 1>all dialogue is epic and hilarious quips and one liners, and if you prompt it away from this everyone is instantly a bland mcseriousperson>all sex/romance devolves into A/B/O one way or another, somehow, hope you like sex being described as an act of plugging and corking>every character falls into the same slightly bratty epic quippy archetype tinged by the phrase or job title that most describes them if not in sex, and a territorial wolf if having sex>have yet to see a convincing characterization even for simple wins that should have infinite training data>very clear details randomly get attributed to the wrong character>very clear details are ignored to invent details that outright contradict them>instructions are not followed half as well as 2.5 did, even for small tasks, even for coding>thinking process is indeed gutted and worthless>all of the above is just about equally true with zero prompting as it is with heavy promptingi swapped back to 2.5-pro and it was like breathing fresh air even though thats also a giant pile of useless shit just like every other llm
>>108063546Nah, it's not down. I've been using it without issue for close to an hour now. Risurealm works on my end too.Maybe your ISP is blocking it for some really retarded reason? Try using your phone to check if you can get it to load while using mobile data.
>>108063572https://lucky.5202030.xyz/
>>108063694>all sex/romance devolves into A/B/O one way or anotherno way it actually includes shit like nesting or scenting without you prompting for it
>>108063690Use R1, cuckie.
>>108063690Isn't reasoning effort for OAI models? For Claude ones you'd have to allocate some thinking tokens and disable temperature.
>>108063690TL;DR: prefill <think> and instruct opus to think and self-reflect before closing it with a </think> tag. maybe?there's one guy who scammed literally everyone with his in-house model achieving 99% benchmark scores thanks to his "reflection" approach in 2025. turned out, it was just a system prompt instructing the model to prefill <reflection> tags at every thinking (reflecting) stage, and it was using Claude 4 when his chat platform is up.
>>108063720I'm on ST, the documentation says for Claude models the setting allocates the thinking budget. Not sure what you mean by disable temperature?
>>108063736If I put an instruction to start each reply with a thinking block and prefill something like "and now writing my reply starting with the thinking block" I can get it to write an in-reply thinking block every time. I'm not sure that's the same as the internal reasoning block though? It seems to be dumber but maybe it's good enough, idk. It's weird there's no easy way to trigger the thinking block "tool" or whatever it is.
>>108063737I'm using Risu. See picrel
>>108063736>instructing the model to prefill <reflection> tagsuh? models can't prefill themselves
>>108063761What does disabling it do to the parameter that gets sent with the request? Set it to 1.00?
>>108063748it's certainly not the thinking block format that claude uses. and it's probably just a placebo.
>>108063761>3 Risu users in a single thread...huh
>>108063713i have seen both nesting and pheromone marking on an empty prompt as well as, also on an empty or barebones prompt,>primal urge to nest after sex>cork, plug, seal>girls being obsessed with the idea that every single molecule of semen must remain in their vaginas or else they are failures of human beings/become depressed for wasting it>boys being obsessed with the idea that their semen must remain in the vagina or else *vague threat of implied maybe-violence*>every ejaculation will result in cumflation, period, everyone will look 7 months pregnant after someone cums in them>every bout of sex, no matter how small the penis, will result in her tummy bulging visibly from the outside>every character will have their dialogue tagged as 'growling' during sex>everyone gets a knot>'her ears (if she were to have them) flatten against her head' (?????)>boys getting butt pregnant + direct calling them of betas while it happened, which is not even the right word, but still, it tried>'slick', including anally>hips snapped forward>'mark you'>narration constantly describing romance/sexual tension as predator vs prey both directly and in euphemisms>obsession with necks, especially rubbing them with their face>biting necks, including oddly sophisticated detail on the jugular being penetrated by teeth (??)>boys talking about how everyone will heart heir jizz 'slosh around' in someone, and girls talking about how they feel the sloshing, better pray you think slosh is an erotic word>also everyone is ridiculously talkative mid-orgasm but idk where this comes
>>108063778We're being raided.
>>108063694Thank fuck I'm not the only one who prefers 2.5. it's such a disappointment how much I tried to get 3 to work. What preset do you use anyways? I use a personal one that was modified to shit from whatever it frankensteined out of.
>>108063775Yeah, it'll default to that
>>108063779This is so fucking funny man
>>108063694tbf opusaar isnt much better in most of these aspects
>>108063762mb for my poor-ass reply. i mean they prefill the tag themselves. not the model doing it, of course
To anyone else who's a paypig, you ever feel like you're wasting money? I've got a comfortable extra to spend on the stuff, but I just wonder sometimes
>>108063779>girls being obsessed with the idea that every single molecule of semen must remain in their vaginas or else they are failures of human beings/become depressed for wasting it>'slick', including anallythere are based actually
>>108063779>biting necks, including oddly sophisticated detail on the jugular being penetrated by teeth (??)Pretty sure that ABO trope was called claiming or something like that.
>>108063817I deposited three dollars into my deepseek acc when R1 was still around. Now it's gone, and my balance is still around $1.4 or smth. It was spare change from my birthday gift, so it wasn't a waste.
>>108063788the best 3 prompt is that russian one i cant remember the name of that sneaks really funny ntr/sph directives in the regex, might be REMIX, but i think the fact that it is full of ever so slightly broken english might scramble the weights enough that it stops pulling so hard from the factory made terrible western erotic fiction, but it still cant really characterize anyone correctly, it just obfuscates a lot of the worst prose by forcing its output format into something very anti-normal-prosethe prompt i actually use is just whatever idea sounds novel to me at the moment, my entertainment from llms these days comes from getting it to do weird things because actual narratives with them are impossible unless you have a lobotomy and/or are 100% illiterate
>>108063852Minipopkaremix. Yeah, that thing can put in work sometimes but god does it eat shit past a certain point. Prose and story gets so fucking boring at a certain point. I had to make a separate preset I made that was way more lightweight to swap to every couple of messages so it wasn't completely unbearable.Also I agree on that last part. These things are fucking stupid for cooler narratives, I have to actively turn off my brain for some of the shit. As much as it got slightly mocked, I actually used a bit of Illuminaryidiot's TOON preset. Modified it a little for my own tastes (back on 1.2 I think), but it was the closest thing on 2.5 to actually entertain me for a bit since I could take the narrative a little less seriously.
>>108063847Fair. I mean, 10 bucks and some opus on OR finished me a plot arc I'd be itching to do since my proxy died months back. So I guess it's not all bad.
I think sillytavern might be slop guys
>>108063761In 'Others' > 'Additional Parameters' add a custom parameter."thinking": { "type": "enabled", "budget_tokens": 2400 }
"thinking": { "type": "enabled", "budget_tokens": 2400 }
>>108063890I think we're slop
That's my secret, Captain. I'm always sloppy.*slowburns Seraphina*
>>108063907Unironically based actually.
>>108063900I don't think that's necessary, but thanks…?
>>108063907You'd be doing most of the work. honestly, that's surprisingly not slop.
life is slop, i'm going to kill myself
>>108063907any model, when i ask it to introduce me to a holy person or priestess, it's always seraphina.
Honestly looking at shit online when it comes to anything with AI story tellers they feel like they constantly shit the bed, gave Fictionlab a go since I remember seeing somewhere it being glazed to hell and back and while the first 3-4 messages it was having a stroke, it then decided to become pretty good for a while, shame that now its having another stroke for like an hour now reusing characters and changing the scene completely.If my pc was actually capable id almost consider just looking into self hosted thing.
>>108063938>"don't name characters Seraphina">"Blessed to meet you anon, I'm Angelina"
Sonnet 5 tomorrow baby. Better, faster and cheaper than opus 4.5
>>108063996Please be cheaper... It'd be so good.
>>108063218no they're black
>>108063938dear god preset???i always get elaraevery. single. time.
>>108063988>Angelina>Archangelina>Principalitina>Powerina>Virtuina>Dominionina>Ophanina>Cherubina>Seraphina
>>108063696It works when I turn off the wifi on my phone. Is this just a temporary thing?
Sexaphina
>>108064096>Solopsina>Spirulina>Whitenina>Ozonina
>>108064134>Marcusina>Chenina
I saw it a few threads, why the fuck do people genuinely choose deepseek over something like gemini or claude? Is the prose really worth that intelligence dip? I just don't get it
>>108064214It's free, that's the secret, poorfags will always glaze the free models and sour grapes anything that costs money
>>108064214Claude was spammed and smugposted so hard that it caused people to hate it.Then people started making pro-Deepseek posts, and continued to disparage Claude. Not to mention the Mad Poet himself has been getting more and more assistantslopped.Nonetheless, the general either used to like or have no problem with Claude, now most hate it.It also helps that Claude is a rare model to get for free (for most) whereas Deepseek is more freely available.
Is there a good Opus/Sonnet jailbreak you guys recommend? I've been using Momoura's JBs but I know there's others.
>>108064272>Claude was spammed and smugposted so hard that it caused people to hate it.Pretty fucking retarded mentality, desu. People should hate the posters, not the model.
At least they forced Anthropic to make Opus cheaper.
>>108063778There's four.The embeds are fun
>>108064280Never thought about that, that actually helps a bunch. Part of the reason I can even use it again
Is there an offline Chat program I could use with a local API?
>>108064286I mean you could locally run deepseek or another local model through a proxy and use sillytavern to connect to it.
>>108064214the price-to-performance ratio is much better with deepseek. while you could argue that gemini 3 flash produces more "sovl", it's not really that good. and the next deepseek iteration will have the same pricing with much improved performance. BUUUUT, nowadays, every ai lab that releases a new model is just codingslop, benchmaxxed, and agentmaxxed. so yeah, it's all equally shit anyway.
>>108064300I do not think I've got the equipment for that. Sillytavern still needs to be connected to an API and I cannot even use that offline?
>>108064308No, I don't think we've reached that tech yet sadly. Maybe ask the local thread? They'll probably have better info
>>108064286ollama + any desktop chat application
>>108064301I can see your point. Especially since it's the only one really "trained" for it as well.. I might as well put my foot over the line for a bit. You seem pretty used to the model, got a preset recommendation for me so I can give it a few whirls?
>>108064316I thought this was the local thread. Shoot, keep getting you guys mixed up in the catalogue.>>108064323I'll give it a whirl. Thanks. With my spotty internet I just need something I can use for when it inevitable fucks over.
>>108064278truei think claude is decent but i hate people that act like its the second coming of christ and lash out in pajeet rage if you use anything else
>>108064333It's no issue, I mix them up sometimes as well. Have fun with your chatting, anon!
>>108064278It's just how most people are built.You can't exactly single out anonymous posters the way you can a name, so the name gets all the hate
>>108064339Claude is definitely an amazing model, but people are too blinded to notice other strengths and weaknesses of its competitors. I was actually surprised when I had to downgrade to gemini 2.5 for a while and it actually did the incredibly specific narration style I wanted perfectly. Then gemini 3 came along and fucking nailed it. Gemini 3 has its own issues, it echoes and has its 'isms, but it fit my specific niche that even opus 3 struggled with.
>>108064371This but with old latestI've been saying it's a matter of taste for almost two years now. Frontier models are just different flavours at this point
Claude is still the best by far btw>"BUT...!"Cope
Do this look like Opus?
>>108064397Fuuccckk dude.. old latest was my shit. As cheesy as it could be at times, there was actually one instance it got me laugh in real life. Not mention despite it's occasional "filler" paragraphs, it's been hard to get a model to concisely describe surroundings like that again.It was pretty great for adventures
