>>108041456
can we have a generational stereotype work pros/cons meme or something
confess
What do I even tell them?
>>108061745>how longOver 15 years I guess>lots of knowledgeI don't think there is any area of programming I haven't dabbled in. Graphics, embedded, gamedev, webdev, systems, scientific, modding, smart contracts, you name it.
>>108061745i was suppose to be a cool broading lone wolf who ends up in juvie and then gets recruited to join a boxing gym, kill my best friend in the ring, suffer immense guilt and get back in the ring to cripple a cool dude who reminded me of my best friend, a fucking jungle dude, a soldier undergoing ptsd, and then the king of all boxing who kills me so i can turn to white ashbut nooooooooooooo i have to be a fat fuck who can type really fast.
>>108061767>He didn't joemax before he turned 18
>>108061723
>>108061767Why would you want a profession that leaves you permanently injured and/or brain damaged after few years? Just do your desk job and exercise regularly and you will be in better state than many boxers when they get older.
>>108061766 I said confess, not boast>>108061767 I too type fatly but fastly
>>108061785my real life hasn't started that's why it's so trash. one day i'll wake up and then i'll be able to escape this oh shit this was real life.
>>108061420getting laid off from my big corp last year was the best thing that ever happened to me. between the rolling layoffs and catty backstabbing bs, the big corp culture was killing me and i actively wanted my company to fail. now im in a startup and its everything i ever wanted.
>>108061870this couldnt be more relevant. really think about what its trying to say.https://youtu.be/jGL1x40p46s
>>108061904do you post in >>>/wsg/teddy ?
>>108061959nope
utwg is dead so im herejust want to askcan a nigga get an interview? shieeeet
>>108062010I will interview you right now. First question, to what caste do you belong saar?
>>108062047im not a jeet doe
>>108062050Thank you for your time saar the exit is over there on the left of the poo pile
>boss gave me the spiel about programming being entirely AI reliant in a few yearsI'm tired. I should have forced my retarded ass to study harder and get a real degree that would pay more here in eurabia and would actually give some job security in the future. Here I am instead regreting every choice I've ever made.I like being a code monkey. I like typing my shitty code on Vim. I don't enjoy using AI. But I go on LinkedIn (big mistake), every single fucking post is about AI programming. I go on X (big mistake) and I see the same shit. Even on YouTube, almost everyone except that one russian guy is now telling you to vibe code.I guess I'll just go back to school when 80% of tech jobs just vanish. That or I will get gunned down by the elites once they stop having to pretend they don't want us dead.
>>108062276AI is just a rebranded search engine for the most part. Any productive/competent person would've been using search engines already.
Current mood: Dorcelessness
>>108062047>>108062050>>108062056kek'd
>>108062327People are telling you in 2026 that "if you're not generating most of code, you risk falling behind". And that's the part I have issue with. I thought most programmers didn't like reviewing code, and AI code is still by most accounts error prone enough that it requires thorough inspection. Yet you have e-celebs online, including actual programmers who have built shit and have renown for their work basically telling you that you're a fucking retarded troglodyte if you're not generating most of your code in 2026. It's just jarring how opinions have changed in a matter of months and I hate that they did because now I have to hear this shit IRL too.
>>108062384haha just fall back on your soft skills haha
>>108062394
How do I reignite my love of coding from 8+ years ago? I've tried personal projects but I get bored after a couple days and I'd rather spend my free time on other hobbies.
>>108062384it's because 90% of work code is shit that everyone else has already written hundreds of timesyou don't need to reinvent the wheel for the 1 trillions time
>>108061751That's amazing. I'm in a massive corporate so I don't have exposure to people this uninformed, I really want to know what the fuck they think front end, back end and database means. Especially front end. Anyway, you need to clarify about and terminology. I'd hope and pray they're talking about turning off legacy systems after a migration.>I'm seeking clarification on which aspects of front end and back end you are seeking to retire. Front end is a broad term for how a user can enter data or receive information. Back end covers anything that supports front end, including the database.
>>108061745Pretty sure I was a better programmer 2 years ago.
>>108061766> Graphics, embedded, gamedev, webdev, systems, scientific, modding, smart contractsSo you're not actually good at anything, got it
I have claude maxwhat are my alternatives if pro aint cutting it and I want an alternative (that supports opencode and is cheaper maybe)? The max is just overkill but pro will sometimes hit quota limit
>>108062276Nearly all of my friends work in software, and there's a clear relationship between job enjoyment and how much AI tooling you're forced to use. The few friends who actually like their jobs don't use AI for much besides searching documentation or getting ideas, whereas everyone at companies run by AI zealots hates it. I think part of it is because higher ups at those companies are worthless outside of checking KPIs, and LoC is the only way they know how to judge someone's value. But also because it feels like you're a sweatshop worker who's just crapping out lines of code as quickly as possible. There's no pride in problem solving or fulfillment through work.
>>108062551Correct. I can't tell you ins and outs of newest React version, or write cutting edge deferred shading pipeline or explain opcodes in some new x86-64 extension. But I know things here and there and have solid intuition.Luckily that's sort of skillset that is actually desired in what I'm doing, which is prototyping various shit for new clients in a software house.
>>108062611>there's a clear relationship between job enjoyment and how much AI tooling you're forced to useThat's very true. I only use AI to explain parts of project to me or write throw away scripts or schemas. On the other hand I have friends who vibe code shit 90% of time and they hate programming, planning to move away from it eventually.I think if you like programming you are less incentivized to use AI simply because you have fun programing. Otherwise if you spent most of your time at job trying to wrangle some bot to write shit for you and constantly debug its mistakes you are going to start to hate the job eventually anyway.
>>108062537I think that document was AI generated. Someone wanted to tell the AI to do preliminary work for me and instructed it by telling it that we plan to remove that frontend and backend(but forgotten to tell it we will replace it with a new one) but AI just rolled along with it and decided we are going naked database now. That's probably why it described how to write views for new functionality for no good reason whatsoever. The queries and explanations it suggested are inconsistent, forgets or hallucinate columns and shit like that. I was very confused when I saw this first because why would a project manager send me document with detailed but incomplete implementation details for feature I haven't even started to work on. I will just tell him that this isn't really helpful and he can ask AI to help him write good acceptance criteria instead of implementation details.
>Coworker starts bitching about American politics>Be completely clueless and ask questions so that I can win some social points by being a mental steam valve for himI don’t understand why people engage with this. We live on the opposite side of the world. There’s nothing you can do little man. Is it just fulfilling a gossip function?
>>108062716we talk about it as well since if you are using American shit in your infastructure as heavily as people do in the west then you need to mind the political risksright now our team quietly has a policy of not doing anything new in AWS that wouldnt be easy to migrate to somewhere else...maybe in the following years we will switch to something else, more local one since even our customers are asking for it
I just found out that I can ignore email threads so I never have to see replies of people yapping back and forth over nothing. I'm so happy. I've already ignored two threads.
>apply for position>they give me a task that should take 30 days>expect it in one fucking week>sleepless nights later have it done>say they will hire me>still nothing about payim scared they are gonna lowball me, they have 11 employees
Motherfucker, apparently in my area there's company needing dude know some low level shit but it's for senior roleGod, I wish I had a job where the stress is either worth it or nonexistent, even if there’s no growth potential.
>>108063206Please tell me you didn't give them a week of labour without paying you anything. Please tell me you didn't goy that hard.
>>108061745i really only got into programming since ~2019in 2021 i thought i was hot shit but as i gained more knowledge and experience that image actually fits because i now know that there is more that i dont know than knowI sought out new employment last year and they asked "on a scale of 1 to 10 how would you rate your expertise" and i said "6", and specifically cited the dunning-kruger effect and well... even as a "6" they hired me lol
>>108063266do you even understand the current market? i'm desperate, and I need to clarify the task is actual work, not some test, literally part of the work the role is supposed to be doing, they even gave me access to their test env, db, aws iam, etc
>>108062047Brahmin.
>>108063335Not him but yeah you played yourself. Also what type of company is handing out creds to fucking randoms? Crazy
>>108063407they do SaaS for banks, wish I was kidding
>>108063206I feel like they’ll use something like family, friendship, growth, or learning to justify that lol>>108063407Small MSP company usually like that
I got an electrical engineering degree a few years back but have been working a development job. Kinda starting to think I made the wrong choice with the state of the market, AI, H1Bs, and having to to do 5 rounds of leetcode interviews just to find a job, so I’m considering switching to something more electrical. Anyone have any advice on what I can look for without letting the time I’ve been in my dev job go to waste?
>10pm hits>suddenly full of energyEvery fucking night. I WANT TO SLEEP, BRAIN.
>>108064049that's what melatonin is for
My job expects nothing from me and jet im still fucking depressed. How do I snap out of depression?
>>108064194The trick is to find a job that expects you to do exactly what you're good at and you enjoy doing.Second best is something you enjoy but aren't good at, though it won't last.Third best is something you're bad at and hate, you'll probably get fired quick so it will be over soon.Worst case is something you're good at but hate. You can stay in that situation for years... decades even, until you finally kms
>>108064240>just find a unicorn job!thanks retard
For the last year I would wake up and want to kill myself but the thoughts would go away some point in the drive to work but now it's like half the day.>>108064049I know this feel, it's basically because of staying up too late on weekends. Gotta lock in a schedule +- 1h or it just sucks
>>108064176>read: no matter how much money I make they still won't let me on the island :(
What the fuck do Deloitte or any of these consultant companies actually do
>>108064314They scam governments by exploiting their government connections.https://mahadk.com/posts/ai-skills-hub
>>108064332>>108064338Shit sounds like a good gig. Should I jump from my sinking ship FAGMAN job before the next round of lay offs
>>108064326>the only other country in the world besides the usa is jeetlandmindbroken
>>108064375>a sovereign country of 42 million people "set up it's army last year" because some orange taco nigger talked shit on fox newsamericans are so retarded
>>108063266>>108063482I bet you are working for free and they won't hire you. but if you really have creds for one of their clients, and you are really desperate... maybe you should talk to a lawyer to find ways to extort them into giving you money / hiring you, because they clearly are doing something really fucking stupid, and most probably illegal in some way (at least from a security perspective, giving creds from clients to randos is fucking retarded, kek)>>108063664embedded? jump to solar PV or similar stuff? talk to people in both fields and find ways to jump to the lattest fad?
>>108064586Oh I'm not worried they won't hire me, the owner already said he is talking with his accoutant, I'm just worried they will offer me less than the lowest pay for the role, also yeah if I give enough of a fuck I will probably have to revamp things, the guy "testing" me already told me the system was made 15 years ago and runs like shit, and it does.
goodnight /twg/
>>108061745>confessi really like my new job. i joined a startup thats making tons of cash. i get to work remote in my field of choice. they just flew us out for a week and fed us fancy dinners and the people are very cool. i ended up hanging out with one of my coworkers until midnight. im really happy. im so glad i got laid off last year ;_;
>>108063482why buy the cow when you get the milk for free
>>108064314They make powerpoints and tell you to fire everyone and hire jeets
>>108062276I should have become a lawyer. High status job, good salaries, autism friendly and most importantly: they are not whoring themselves out and getting brainwashed to undercut their own profession every turn on the road.Fucking hate how little career guidance I ever got from school or from my white trash parents.
How do I ask for a raise? I'm unironically underpaid>managing people, doing AI integrations, writing almost entire backend for a financial app (wont go into specifics)>1 year of professional experience, CS degree>make $70k in Californiawell at least I live with my parents heh
>good designer left>product manager is too busy to bother paying attention to the product>stuck implementing a never ending stream of the most retarded awful changesthis fucking sucks it feels like every day i waste my time actively making the product worseshould i quit
if LLMs are limited by their context window, does that mean they won't be able to answer questions that take into account the entire code base if the code base is big enough?or are there things happening under the hood?i've been getting hallucinations so i'm guessing it's the former
>>108065130Solved by MPC server. Your model just suck
>>108065197proof?
>forced 3 days at the office>forced extraversion and positivity pushed down our throats>full-stack and devops (already nefarious ways of having one do the work of two-three) merging into one>5-6 rounds of interviews for new jobsI hate it.
>>108065197copilot in vscode with claude sonnet 4.5
After sending a CV, how long should I wait after not hearing back to accept I haven't gotten the job. Also, if I expressed interest in future opportunities, would they respond to this? i.e. let me know I'd be on their list or not?
>>108064049>hate going to sleep>hate waking up also>stay up late almost every night avoiding sleep>wake up tired, body feels like lead, don't want to get out of bed>some days have inescapable sleep attack nap in the arvo, caused by extreme fatigue, feels like narcolepsy
>>108065332always assume you didn't get it. be outcome independent. there is no point in waiting and hoping, you have no influence over it.
>>108065506>arvoausgroid detected
>>108065528But what if I got it?
>>108065583Then you will be here complaining about your new job within the month
>>108065583what kind of a stupid question is that?
>>108062384You are retarded if you don't generate 95% of code with AI. It's still not at a point where you can copy-paste requirements and expect it to 100% fulfill the task at hand but if you direct it right and have knowledge about software engineering, architecture and the domain, you can easily automate most of your actual programming to AI.
>>108065598But why would I be retarded for not generating "95%" of my code? What the fuck would I gain beyond skill atrophy and the disdain of my colleagues in PRs? Do you actually enjoy what you're doing?
>cars beeping all morning>upstairs neighbor starts drilling>sirens blasting from cop cars, ambulances and fire trucks every couple of minutesI love working from home
>>108065614What matters is how quickly you can deliver, not how much love you put into writing code.
>>108065629
>>108065633Sorry you have to work in a sweatshop where you speed matters more than quality. I dread the day I end up in your position.
>>108065332Just follow up with them after a week assuming you have their contacts. In that email/message, express you are open to other similar opportunities or willing to learn to get into other similar fields. The key is to show that you are positive and motivated. That's all. Don't beg and don't show any emotional weakness. If you don't have their contact, then just treat it as an entry in your log book (you should track your applications btw)
>>108065646Your employer cares about results, not quality. Quality only becomes an issue if it causes bugs on prod and with AI and a good reviewer, that'll happen less often.
>>108062716If you live anywhere outside of China or North Korea, American politics are influencing your quality of life, your own country’s political decisions, and even your fucking recreational activities. Your romantic prospects are being influenced by Muttmericans because every western femoid is a deranged SocJustice bot. Only east euro and southeast asian women are legitimate prospects nowadays.
>>108065709>east euro women>southeast asian women
>>108065683I do not have issues with delivering shit on time. Typing code was never a bottleneck for me and I assume most people. I'm only saving time in the long run by having code that's less likely to be thrown away and that will be easier to maintain by both me and my team. Real bottlenecks are managerial decisions which are unlikely to be fixed by AI slop like wrong design decisions, poor planning or having to wait for another team to implement something on their end in 3 sprints.Again, do you seriously enjoy reviewing code more than writing?
>>108065727>Again, do you seriously enjoy reviewing code more than writing?NTA but I enjoy writing code more than reviewing code if and only if I have to do an equal amount of one or the other. But with AI, reviewing its code takes a fraction of the time it would take for me to write it and therein lies the fallacy in your rebuttal
>>108064756RLO>Rebrand>Layoff>Outsource
>>108065785So you're just using AI and vibes to review AI code, alright. Not sure how that implies my rebuttal had a fallacy. I never implied that AI wasn't faster, I questioned whether it was worth the tradeoffs. Clearly I'm in the minority who thinks it isn't.
I asked for a raise, I think I'm getting fired, what do I do?
>>108065815Look for a new job
>>108065819Should I also win the lotto and marry [insert hottie]?
>>108065807> Clearly I'm in the minority If you include jeets and technologically inept normies, yes. If you exclude those, you are a big majority.
>>108065822retard, you don't even work in tech
>>108065827SAAAAAAR YOU DONT WORK IN TECH SAAR YOU ARE LUDITE DALIT I AM BRAHMIN GPT 99TH PERCENTILE CHATGPT COMMANDER SAAR
>>108065822There are two types of people who don't use AI, poors and people who think they are smart yet can't figure out how to make AI work for them.
>>108065844
I give up
>>108065844So dramatic, ywnbaw
>>108065820>marry [insert hottie]Yes, do it.
>>108065858you could become a prostitute
>>108065860>>108065852>>108065845>>108065827Actual brownoid behavior.
>>108065528>>108065664Thanks for the advice, it's been giving me a bit of anxiety. Btw this company reached out to me, so I guess I was expecting a quick turnaround, now I'm worried they think I'm retarded.
>>108065872jobless
>>108065929
>>108065936i accept your concession
>>108065937>No you!I win.
>>108066029nope i wonnered
> sourced my own work for 12 years> got a corporate remote software engineering job> realize corporate IT workers are slow compared to regular freelancers> work for about 2 hours a day> colleagues got baited by feeling important because they attend 5 technical meetings a day> I attend 3 45-minutes meetings a week, program for 1-2 hours a day> mfw this is easy> mfw no face
>>108066193>Tfw CV is only six lines long despite padding it outBe honest bros is it over for me?
Just fired 4 guys and we are replacing them with agents, feels good.
Just fired 20 white timmy benchods and we are replacing them with 100 of our lightest skin Brahmin Aryans from Himachal Pradesh, feels good, saars.
>>108066287>brahmin>sikh piclol
>>108066290>knowing the differencegood morning sir
>>108066304I'm from NY retard, you must live in some bumfuck flyover in the south to be this ignorant of the invasive species.
>>108066287Ah you must be part of my upper management
>>108066312Theyre all the same shit
CCNA or Sec+ as a first cert?
There are no layoffs. Everything is fine. Trust the plan.
>>108064049This is true for me too. 6pm to 8pm is a total energy dead zone for me. All I have the energy to do is doomscroll on 4chan after work, and then all of a sudden BAM right when it's time to sleep I can lock in again.
>>108065629lol citycuck rentoid
>>108065845My job is (still) safe from LLMs. In fact, the incompetence of the people that use them gives me even more work.>>108066240Yes>>108066475CCNA should be more broadly accepted, I think
>>108065629you need to go full remote so you can actual escape the nigger infested shithole. hybrid is so cringe. just lie and tell them your relative got hit by a bus or something
Is it time to Job-minimize bros?
god i love my job so much it's unrealif i were independently wealthy, i would still do my job, but wouldn't even ask for pay
>>108065035HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, nice joke.Your whole job would consist of convincing normies.New grad lawyers are overworked, underpaid and treated like shit.Only corrupt lawyers have a reputation.>>108065035I think you've complained about your pay ITT in the past. If so, you need to stop being a coward in the first place. You just ask."Boss, we need to talk." Then, you tell him that you are being underpaid, Cali is expensive, I've been here for years, blah blah pay me more. But also look for a new job, because your stingy employer probably would fore you rather than give you a raise.>>108065332~1 month. But, yeah. Like the other anon said, assume they didn't even read it. Take a potential call back as a nice surprise.
>>108066694your chancelor wants to crack down on part time work. you can kiss that idea goodbye
I really don't want to leave my bed and work I think I have a meeting right now
I just got a 10% raise in this economy. Feels good mang
>>108061723Getting onto work gives me dull numbness in the head and I can't get myself to complete the tasks.
>>108065629I live directly across the street from a train station but that has nothing to do with working from home
>>108066892I was just complaining about that to chatgpt last night and it basically said>m-m-MUH IGNORE IT, REFRAME YOUR THINKING, EVERYTHING IS FINE
>>108065629>what is anc headphonesabsolute non issue in 2026
I sit behind guys who do procurement and it's really funny how often they are ready to buy a product but they can't because sometime in the past year or two the company shoveled some meaningless AI into it as a marketing stunt that makes it a security risk
>whole contracting going to shit in NL, free money train is over>parachuted out of contracting role after amassing ~100k in savings over 2 years>just in time, into straight into a chill, full remote job
>>108061723I exist in the Injured state, but really try and cherish the occasional week where I'm in the Reacting state.
I have a trip to Italy with my family planned for next week and my employer isn't letting me go because we're scheduled to launch a product I built during my leave. I've built it so anyone can trigger the launch and it'll just autonomously deploy itself, but my managers fear there could be last minute issues. I sent them a long message explaining why the last minute issues they're worried about literally cannot happen and haven't heard back yet. Thinking about quitting if they don't let me go. Any advice?
>>108067329If you cancel the trip you won't be getting that time with your family back
>>108067329Have fun in Italy!>But...Did I stutter?
>>108066651>My job is (still) safe from LLMs. Inta but what are you? sec?
>>108067329send them an email that says you are going to Italyif they try to say some shit then too badworst case scenario is that you might have to bring your work laptop, but you're goinghave fun anon
>>108061723Hopefully some of the senior anons can help me with this. I've been a software engineer for 3 years now. I work with a small company, and have done everything from hardware research to fixing RMAs to implementing back-end and front-end software. A new device we're working on will have a web-based GUI instead of the standard on-device GUIs we've previously built. I was tasked with designing the web application from the ground up because some of my coursework in my Bachelors included web development (I'm by no means a web developer though). I researched design tools, built a design system using design tokens (using PenPot. Pretty neat tool though immature). I spent a whole month working on a GUI design that I though would be simple to implement and follows whatever best practices I could absorb over the course of the past month. I was told throughout the design effort that one of my seniors would have a lot of things to change, but that ultimately my efforts would end up in some form in the final product. My tech lead walked by the other day and instead showed me the designs of the senior, which look nothing like what I'd designed (even though I'd been producing high-quality documentation along the way and updating the email chain with everything that was added and why). His design leads me to believe that they didn't even look at the documents or system I'd made. Is this normal? I understand that it could be part of the fact that I'm only 2 years into my career, but it just seems insane that they'd throw away a month's worth of work on a very budget-constrained project. It feels bad, man. When I was shown his design, I requested to be assigned different work because it didn't seem like my input was valued, only to be told that I couldn't work on another project until I was finished creating the design documentation for a design that I no longer have any hand in creating. I've never had a poor performance review, and I truly enjoy my job. feels bad, man
>>108067437>His design leads me to believe that they didn't even look at the documents or system I'd made. Is this normal?yes>I requested to be assigned different worksimple lapse of judgment, let it pass, no big dealjust take it how it is and accept that your suggestions might be valid but your ultimate decisions don't matter until you BECOME the lead (which means becoming a manager of sorts)they can and will make you scrap workthey will not review your documentation or designs or PRs in a timely manner, if evergood luck anon
>>108059578Yes, if you're better than the competition.
>>108061904>now im in a startup and its everything i ever wanted.how's your comp compared to then?
>>108067691Higher salary, lower bonuses (which can be fickle anyway). Overall maybe like 5% less total comp. But I'll happily give that up to be fully remote and be in a culture that fits me more. Not to mention being directly in a tech company, not a tech department in an unrelated field.
>>108061904I'm thinking same. Was stuck in the worst big jeet tech corpo possible last year and wanted to kms or others. I basically made them lay me off early cause I knew it was coming. Got another job a month later at a smaller but growing company and it's so refreshing. Never taking it for granted again.
probably the only job that would make me happy is at a japanese vidya company in the 90s, I fucking hate corporate and start ups
>>108067711>I basically made them lay me off earlywhat did you do? did it not affect your sense of morality or pride?I can imagine simply slowing down work to an "unacceptable" velocity but can't imagine that not making me feel like an idiot because I surely am capable
>client call>new request for feature>they're all over the place with requirements>ask for it to be formalized in some writing>get told I can reference the AI Zoom notesActually what the fuck. Fuck them. I'm sitting on this until it's a problem.
>>108067726>japaneseyeah because the work ethic resulting in pic related is totally good for your mental state
>>108067773this is me anyway but without working on eroge
>>108067757just take the notes and make clear acceptance criteria out of it and confirm with the client that's exactly what they wantif they ignore it again then how is that your problem? just do what they say and show them explicitly what they asked for when they inevitably regret it
>>108067710What's the startup's focus?
>>108061723The black one. Join us.
>>108067711>I basically made them lay me off early cause I knew it was coming.Same. I nuked my performance while they still offered a severance. A year later, severance pay is being massively cut. I doubted my decision for a while, but it really worked out.
>>108067329I would rather get hustled out of my life's savings by a gypsy in Rome than have work force me to not go.It's one thing if you don't want to go for your own reasons, but letting work dictate if you go or not is unacceptable to me.
>>108067808cybersecurity
Gonna try to apply for a new software job. Bored out of my mind at my current job and the commute isn't great. Is this a good idea with talk about AI taking over? I'd be the first to go as a new hire if I switched now. Also any tips for applying? Yurop btw.
>>108067880>I'd be the first to go as a new hire if I switched nownot necessarily they could have easily laid me off a couple of years ago but I think they didn't because I was (still am) being paid the least
>>108067603Brutal. Any tips for advancing my career then? This small company has no opportunities for advancement, but the market seems hostile to software engineers right now. I've been applying to jobs that seem interesting and that I'd be a good fit for but I haven't heard anything back.
>>108067908>couple years agoI'm talking about the situation in a year or two when AI will be as good as inexperienced devs.
>>108068152two more weeks
I've been applying to positions in C++ but I've only professionally worked with GC languages.Does this give hiring managers the ick or what? I get rejected even though I do know how to program in C and C++, I've made lots of personal projects in them.
>>108068183It can be a little tricky with C++ jobs. C++ is one of those languages where if the place you are applying at is super zealous about a particular style of C++ (usually ultra modern) and you're not obviously already immersed in it, you can be unfairly dinged. I'd recommend getting very familiarized with template metaprogramming concepts - iterators and that sort of thing. That's the shit these types tend to love.
>took an assessment for a senior engineer job>one easy leetcode and two medum >can't even google answers as fast as I used to be able to any moreI don't know if I'm going to last in this gig any morehttps://leetcode.com/problems/palindrome-linked-list/description/https://leetcode.com/problems/longest-substring-without-repeating-characters/description/https://leetcode.com/problems/combination-sum/description/
>>108068279I don't have any difficulties with those language features whatsoever, but I'm wondering if I'm getting rejected simply because they just assume I'm unfit without even bothering to test whether it's true.
>>108063265youre not senior? just apply anyway. when i graduated i didnt apply for any junior roles only normal because i didnt want junior pay still got a job
>>1080682991st.- Convert the LL to an array then two pointers over the list until lhs = rhs or array[lhs] != array[rhs]2.- sliding window with a set, expand rhs until you get a duplicate, marking the longest answer as you go- once you get a duplicate start reducing from the left and removing shit from the set 3. - standard backtracking implementation, just keep trying combinations and break if you go over the target /utwg/ chad btw
>>108068299>>108068362also where the fuck are you interviewing that you're getting leetcode easies for a senior role? I fucking applied to amazon and they gave me a medium and a dynamic programming hard for a 3 yoe role
crypto is dumping hard...there goes my dream of saying "fuck you i quit!"
>>108068450Local company in Houston
>>108068460protect yourself by buying puts maybe? also, why didn't you cash out at 120k? was it not obvious to you that this was the end of this cycle? I'm not even a crypto bro, but that seemed kinda obvious. the halving was how long ago already?
Pretty hard not to be demoralized in current market with no new job offers available.Development is dead and operations is just hammering bash scripts while being on-call and stressed all the time.It's pretty rough, I'm not sure whether to keep going in this field or do something else with my life, but nothing pays as much and has comfy remote for semi-neet people like me.
>>108067437>A new device we're working on will have a web-based GUI instead of the standard on-device GUIs we've previously builtExecute all your managers, history will be kind to you
>>108068166Keep saying it faggot. I've been using Claude at my current job to test it out and it's exceeded my expectations a lot. It's only going up from here.
>>108068691>to test it outI've been using claude daily to actually develop real world shit and it can't even build functioning UIs unless you hold it's hand
>>108067437>His design leads me to believe that they didn't even look at the documents or system I'd made. Is this normal?Nothing out of the ordinary
>>108068699You have to hold its hand but if you give it enough context it'll do whatever you want. My company uses a semi custom programming language that barely has documentation compared to common languages like C(++), Java, JS, C#, Python, whatever. It manages extremely well just on a couple MD files to explain context.
>>108068724>Hey claude, here's a screenshot. Design this UI in (x) language>>thinking....>>code doesn't compile>>hallucinates methods that don't exist>>uses a bunch of deprecated methods>Hey claude, (x) isn't a real method. Fix that.>>thinking....>>compiles>>barely looks like what you input>>shit is miscolored, a bunch of artifacts everywhere, styling is completely wrong>Hey claude, fix that>repeat 10x >finally looks passable>resize the window>UI completely collapses>Hey claude, the UI shits itself when you resize the window>>thinking....>>out of tokens, please wait 5 hours!>spent the next 5 hours looking through a thousand lines of vibecoded shit that doesn't work, have no idea whats wrong because you didn't develop it yourselfI'm sure replacing all junior programmers with this is a great idea. What could go wrong? Software has only gotten better and more efficient in the last 2 years.
>join a new team>Get made lead of my own squad>Bunch of engineers under me>Making progress towards promotion goals>Management does management bullshit >Squads are being reorged >Now I've got a principle eng above me to steal my glorySweet. I love whiplash and being faceless. I'd quit but the market is so shit I'm gonna take a 100k haircut just for the possibility of sanity but most likely it's worse for less money.
>>108068912I've gone back and forth on the whole AI thing and I've come to the conclusion it's best for learning which is something normies don't bother with anyway.>inb4 it gives wrong informationSometimes but it gets you up to speed quicker to then go and read the real documentation without getting overwhelmed. Plus every forum is filled with misinformation too, being discerning is a necessary skill regardless.>>108069076>most likely it's worse for less moneyPretty much the only reason I'm not jumping ship.
>>108068912>Out of tokensDo third tiers really!? My company gives us unlimited access to cursor pro and we're "discouraged" from using max but I totally could if I wanted. It's for sure not gonna be good enough to run on its own right now. Hell it's not even good in the hands of a junior that doesn't understand why the code that they generated that compiles and passes all of the tests is bad. But it's good enough to 10x a competent engineer that knows how to get granular with their requests to get out perfection>Figma mcp server>GitHub mcp server>Jira mcp server>Confluence mcp server >Read the tech spec and create a Jira epic and the tickets>Assign them point values>Let's work on ticket X >Create a branch for that ticket>Generate this single component from the design in this figma >Create a request endpoint for a backend server>Create a function that is called by that request with these specific inputs and outputs using this documentation from confluence >Commit and push>Create a PR I've got my workflow to a point that I can almost nearly remove the keyboard and just work through voice alone. The pm with no technical understanding or the junior that never learned to program might not have the same efficiency despite having access to the same tools. Anybody can buy a circular saw. Not everyone builds their own house.
>>108067065So what do you do to get out of that? I'm thinking i need to switch jobs asap
>>108069221>"10x developer">look inside>it's actually ai slopping all the work while you shuffle files around>nothing works correctly
>Trying to put a ticket in two minutes before my lunch breakUnironically fuck off.
>>108069379>Nothing works correctlyUnit tests all based, CI is green, and I met the kpis. None of the business negros that sign my checks give two shits about muh clean code. You want beautiful artisanal code? Do that shit in your hobby project. My job is to deliver software that meets the acceptance criteria in the shortest time possible >But what about maintainability Bitch I work out of a code base that's 30 years old using code frameworks that have long since been deprecated. I think they'll survive a little React slop on a feature that corporate is just going to decommission in a quarter anyway. Like why invest yourself emotionally into a job?
>>108069493>anon why does opening this app on my pc cause my gpu to spike to 100%?>idk ask claude
>>108068299okay here's my ideas after around 5-10 minutes. Mind you I never actually took a leetcode interview before>https://leetcode.com/problems/palindrome-linked-list/description/do 1 pass to put the values into a stack and find the length of the list. Do a 2nd pass pop 1 value at a time from the stack and march a pointer 1 space through the list until you're through half of the stack>https://leetcode.com/problems/longest-substring-without-repeating-characters/description/keep a start and end pointer and a set of characters in the current string. Advance the end pointer until you reach a duplicate, then advance the start pointer until the duplicate is removed. >https://leetcode.com/problems/combination-sum/description/Recursive approach. Some function like f(target, currentIndex) and the recursively call it with f(target - array[index], index) and f(target, index+1). If it was just counting them you could return 1 if target is 0, 0 if less than 0 or index out of bounds, and then add the two calls together. You could memoize this too. Actually storing the combinations is a bit of a bitch though
What are my options if I refuse to leetcode? How do become PM chad?
>>108065807You're talking to an idiot who doesn't like that you have work ethic.
instead of getting a second/better job and earning more money i play wow all day for the past 6 monthsshould i just end it when i hit 30?
>add lobster.rs to my rss feed>its literally 99% just retarded blog posts about ai like this https://serce.me/posts/2026-02-05-we-are-qa-engineers-now
>>108068912This is true
tomorrow is friday but i have nothing to look forward to in the weekend except to sleep a little bit more i guess
>get volunteered to do some interviews>all the candidates are indian
>>108069656im latinx give me an interview instead
>>108069656You're gonna pass on all of them
>>108069518>Web app>PC performanceAgain, I meet the KPIs. LCP (load times) being one of them. You can cope all you want about the superiority of human written code but at the end of the day most of this shit is just crud operations and centering divs. 99% of us are never going to use any of the leet code scenarios for anything which is what makes it a retarded filter for tech jobs. It's not as if prior to AI we didn't have major security bugs from code or libraries ported into a project from a stack overflow post. If your company is worth anything, the ci will analyze the code for performances and security risks.
>>108069586>What are my options if I refuse to leetcode?most shops don't actually do leetcode. It's mostly just fake silicon valley jobs that your caste likely excludes you from in the first place. The people who write the software that runs a warehouse or a bank or the government or real shit like that don't leetcode
>>108069656Let's see if Anon can refuse the temptation of the curry menace
>>108069656do the needful
>>108069586I didn't need to do leetcode for my current job, but I work at a mid-sized corporation in yurop. Not sure if it's common here nowadays.
I'm having a mental breakdown.
>>108061723>employer demands us to show up 4 times a week in person instead of 3 by the summer>we don't even have the desk space to make this feasibleIs it time to start looking for a new job?
>>108069986First time?
>>108069986Same. Time to apply for FMLA and STD
>>108070002>>we don't even have the desk space to make this feasibleThe fuck does this mean. You play musical chairs with each other's desks on the days you are out?
>>108070014Fourth, I think. The past is blurred. This time it will result in losing my job and all hope. The latter I hadn't lost before.>>108070043I don't think getting STD's is likely in my case.
>>108070057Short Term Disability anon, not the fun kind of STD
>>108070051https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hot_deskingYes. Well, not everyone me included, since not everyone at my work needs a desktop.
>>108070066I see (I am Europoorfag). I'm hoping to avoid picrel but it may be unavoidable to achieve such a thing.
>>108070051First-come-first-seated, rest need to code on the sofa or on the floor.
>>108070129Just don't talk fast to the shrink. Give yourself time to choose your words so you don't sperg out
>>108070051yes. enjoy your morning turning into a game of fortnite. the point is to encourage race to the bottom where everyone is forced to come earlier and earlier to fight for a seat.
>>108070002>Need to be in 3 days a week>My team is all either on the other side of the country or international jeets to avoid the H1B taxI hate it here
>>108070051>>108070177>>108070225Okay, relax. To clarify, almost all of us has a dedicated desk, the only people who don't are maybe 1-2 employees who transitioned to mostly remote and the odd co-op student.
>>108070270>sit in a cuck cube workspace>fart>someone opens door to talk to me>that someones face whenI just ate a lot of cabbage to prepare for tomorrow
>write unit tests first before the you write the functionality
>tfw you are too retarded to even have an impostor syndrome
What is basically a single tag change, will take one month due to dependencies stacked over other dependencies.Maybe I should tell management to fuck off and ask claude to do it faster.
>>108070346A customer asked us to fix something two months ago. They still haven't been able to explain what is broken. I can't even
>>108070249Same. By any chance do you work at IBM?
>>108069291that's probably the right choice anon and I think I might need to do that eventually as well
>>108068140fix your resume>Skills (literally a categorized list) >Experience>Education>ProjectsI wrote this out before including extra tips but you'll probably have to sift through /twg/ posts from a week or two ago to find it, but that's the structure your resume should have right there it's pretty simple
>>108068912this anon knowsanybody who uses this shit every day realizes it's just wrangling a retardit's kind of fun though not going to lie, makes my job easier overall because at least I'm no longer the one doing the typing most of the time
>>108069596>when i hit 30holy mother of manchild
>>108067329Im so glad i live in a country where my boss can't tell me when NOT to take vacation...>>108067405>sec?Yes, offensive security. Everything else can get automated, but, good luck automating vuln research and prevention...
how do I abuse caffeine to have constant energy while still being able to sleep? I just took a scoop of pre workout and I feel incredible and have so much focus to work on a personal project but it's 7 pm
>>108070692Nah, TurboTax. I'm unofficially the tax man. Every company is skirting the H1B ban with Indian contractors in Canada. So vile. They'll do anything but hire Americans.
>>108071017Practice meditation and lucid dreaming. Falling asleep is easy once you find the off switch for the voice in your head.
