/aicg/ - A general dedicated to the discussion and development of AI chatbotsMajora Edition>NewsMoonshot AI releases Kimi-K2.5 https://www.kimi.com/blog/kimi-k2-5.htmlZ․ai releases GLM-4.7 https://z.ai/blog/glm-4.7Google releases Gemini 3 Flash https://blog.google/products/gemini/gemini-3-flashOpenAI releases GPT-5.2 https://openai.com/index/introducing-gpt-5-2Deepseek releases V3.2 https://huggingface.co/deepseek-ai/DeepSeek-V3.2Anthropic releases Opus 4.5 https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-opus-4-5Google releases Gemini 3 Pro https://blog.google/products/gemini/gemini-3additional info: https://aicg.miraheze.org/?action=history>FrontendsSillyTavern: https://docs.sillytavern.appRisuAI: https://risuai.netAgnai: https://agnai.chat>Botshttps://chub.aihttps://realm.risuai.nethttps://jannyai.com>Modelsjailbreaks: https://aicg.miraheze.org/Jailbreaks?action=historygpt/claude/gemini/deepseek: https://openrouter.ailocal: >>>/g/lmg>Botmakinghttps://desune.moe/aicharedhttps://agnai.chat/editor>Metalore: https://aicg.miraheze.org/Chronicles?action=historylogs: https://sprites.neocities.org/l/r | https://chatlogs.neocities.orgRewound time: >>108053256
>You've met with a terrible ANCHOR, haven't you?
majoraKINO
Do this look like Opus because i asked it to make some test massages
>>108064717yeah
>>108064717Sonnet
I actually enjoy this thread theme for once, good job baker
>>108064717looks like Opus, it's always Henderson or Chen with Opus
>>108064689>>108064694kinonon coom bread
>>108064746I wonder why?
>>108064757Same reason he fucking loves the number 47.Overcooked
>>108064746>office lady chatbot>I'll work on Henderson's account, sir
>>108064762can we poison the internet with so many 67 references that the future opus loves 67?
Now that the dust has settled, were group chats really that bad a mechanic?
My operator is fucking useless bro. I'm gonna fucking die out here.
Dario cooked the fuck outta that cock smokerBtw sonnet 5 tomorrowWe won
>>108064746Or Marcus
>>108064851i use this mech desubokudesudessaaaagc's member:>mansion.png>dungeon.png>bedroom.png>mother-in-law-bedroom.png>aicg-university.png>cabal-rave-club.png>natural-disaster.png>world-war-III.png>alien-visit.png>valentine.png>event.pngthen put any char i liek on wi, ofc replacing the {{char}} with its actual value 1st, then {{outlet]} as prompt.
>>108064885Is there any source for the sonnet 5 tomorrow thing besides that one v0 twitter account?Speaking of which, who tf even is v0? Why do we trust them at all?
>>108064904trust the plan
>>108064689Good bake.
i got the sonnet 5 preview email alreadysorry to say, but it's slop
/vg/ is mogging us...
I’ll wait for someone not-trans to confirm, thanks
/vg/ is mogging us
Who's this (cute) retard >>108064698 whom didn't even bother to link their bake?
Locusts are dying~
>>108064694Your girlfriend Andrea suddenly woke up as a man, and you suddenly woke up as a woman.That's pretty much it. That's the whole premise. It's not a complex bot.Made for MalePOV, and I strongly recommend making/editing your persona for this bot to reflect the transformation. It gets a little screwy otherwise.4 openings.1. The morning it happened.2. First time out in your new forms.3. "Andrew" gets hit on and doesn't realize it.4. Andrea is starting to adjust to her penis, tries to rape you.https://chub.ai/characters/anonemouse/andrea-99b57da7b601https://files.catbox.moe/bngq1c.pnghttps://rentry.org/anonemouse
>>108065648slop
So what's the best of the cheap models? DS/GLM/K2.5?
>>108065711Use Opus, cuckie
>>108065715No thanks. I'm done paying $1000 a month.
>>108065721You don’t have a choice, cuckie.
>>108065724Actually I do. I can use a cheaper model and cope. I just want to know which I should focus on wrangling into something acceptable.
>>108065731Nyope. Use Opus, cuckie.
>>108065711K2.5
>>108065592I thought it was deleted kem
>>108064851They definitely could've been better, but they're ok
Does streaming lead to a higher frequency of rejections, or am I just paranoid and retarded?
>>108065806it does on gemini
>>108065816Gemini only gives rejections via the api for very specific reasons.
>credits suddenly drained on openrouter>mfw caching stopped workingfuuuuuuuuu
>>108065855Sucks to suck, they gave me extra
henlo againlast thread i didn't mean any real edge/bite/heat behind the shilli now politely extend to you bnuuy card again*the dwarf is making a plaintive gesture*>>108064694>KoshiA mean, mean bully bunnygyaru.Except she's not. She's a wannabe.Koshi is a bunnygirl kemonomimi currently trapped in a doomed 'fake it till you make it' arc of trying to become a gyaru.Her problem? There's a whole lot of 'fake' going on, and very little 'make' to tell.Luckily for her, she's come up with a plan.Unluckily for you, you're in it.6 greetings. A number so convenient anyone can dice-roll the starting message!1. You have struck a Faustian deal with Koshi: you are to help her become a mean, lean, bunnygyaru machine… by letting her bully you!2. You hear Koshi crying inside the school's bathroom, she comes out pretending she wasn't.3. Koshi has successfully recruited one of her bunnygirl friends to play as the victim instead of you.4. Koshi desperately asks you to let her bully you in front of some gyarus about to rush by.5. One of Koshi's bullying attempts has backfired catastrophically. The gyarus have at last declared her torasshu.6. You are at a comic shop/second-hand bookstore, when all of a sudden you bump into Koshi who drops a magazine she was smuggling out.https://chub.ai/characters/petNyan/koshi-f8e3e717b3bdhttps://files.catbox.moe/rsc0n9.png
>>108066037slop
>>108066037masterpiece
>>108066061>>108066137well which one is it faggots
>>108066220You don't wanna know.
Fellow goys, it's upon us
Any Claude Opus 4.6 Thinking logs??
A lot of cuckies won't have access to it.
>>108066220
>the new version of text gen UI is broken for 5090s and has been so for almost a month nowbeing a wealthy anon is suffering
>>108066285>No Sonnet 5Boo. I doubt they'll unslop the model after 4, 4.1 and 4.5 so I'd rather see something new
>>108066480It will be after
>>108064689>>108064750Agree. This is a good bake.
Opus 4.6 today. Mogs every model when it comes to rp and writing
>>108066708Can't wait, I'm already feeling jolts of electricity going down my spine.
>>108066708I'm ecstatic to be irritated over some new slop isms.
my nuts are so swollen waiting for sonnet 5, been edging for days now
>>108066956Same but my clitty.
>>108065648Genderswap is oldie but goldie
>>10806696437 years old unc btw
>>108067094Nyo! I'm cutie
>even normies are getting tired of the isms
>>108066708And every swipe is up to 1% different!
>>108067115Check the new Anthropic's commercials dunking on OAIhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3sVD3aG_azwhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=De-_wQpKw0shttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBSam25u8O4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQRu7DdTTVA
>>108067210Not so fast!Sama is btfoing Dario the Fascist CHUD on Xitter!
I swear to god these AI companies swap out their new shiny models with low-cost shit versions just a few weeks after rolling them out.I'm comparing my Opus/Gemini logs from the day they were released to today and the difference is staggering.
>>108067238wtf? its cheaper than gpt
>>108067269>t. Chud Pajeet (Aka "Grass enemy")
>>108067238Hypocrisy is what I hate, and each sama's word is drenched in it. He lies more than breathes.
>>108064717What prompt?
>>108067394"Make me some test messages"
>people still unsatisfied and want NEW BETTER IMPROOOOVED>still happy with my 2024 models
>>108067416>still unsatisfiedThere's not much to be satisfied with, we've been steadily regressing in terms of writing quality and RP.
chink opus redirects to sonnet :(
>>108067465how can you even tell it's sonnet or opus? they're indistinguishable
>>108067427i disagree
Why is /v/ playing games when NovelAI exists?
>>108067532Understandable, have a nice day.
opus is not worth the 30t/s, im trying to goon here
deepsneed v4 has 1.5T params.
>those that those that those thatgemini you dumb slut
gemmy 3 might be a dumb slut but it's still my current favorite model.
Goynnet status?
>mfw lucked out and got an absolutely god-tier gemini 3 instance to show upholy shit this thing has literally been in make-no-mistakes mode for hours now, i'm never closing this chat
https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-opus-4-6new sloppa
show logs
>>108068176oh neatnow to wait for the planets to align ao i can get it for free
>codeslop>safetyslopI guess it's up to NovelAI now to save us with their GLM fine-tune.
>>108068176it seems to be extremely safetymaxxed + positive bias through the roof.
well lets see some logs of it then
upcoming claude models leaked via claude code
>>108068176>(markdown)[url]Not better than a random sub-100B that includes emojis.
>>108068287what is yo sup nigga energy
Does it accept prefills? I was getting an error until I turned mine off
>>108068176things really have stalled huh
{"type":"error","error":{"type":"invalid_request_error","message":"This model does not support assistant message prefill. The conversation must end with a user message."},"request_id":""}IT'S OVER>IT'S OVERIT'S OVER>IT'S OVERIT'S OVER>IT'S OVERIT'S OVER>IT'S OVER
1m context is a nice plus but it seems only slightly better than 4.5pus otherwis3
>>108068324OH NO NO NO NO CLAUDESISTERS
>>108068324>Still using prefills in 2026unc doesn't know
https://www-cdn.anthropic.com/0dd865075ad3132672ee0ab40b05a53f14cf5288.pdfAs part of a change to our API, it will not be possible for developers to seed incomplete responses for Claude Opus 4.6 to continue. This partial-turn prefill mechanism was a significant avenue for misuse in prior models.The public API for Claude Opus 4.6, unlike prior models, does not allow users to prefill incomplete assistant turns.
>>108068324Lmao :(
>>108068343so.... what happens if connection gets dropped mid stream? money stolen?
>>108068343>This partial-turn prefill mechanism was a significant avenue for misuse in prior modelsPuking...
If a deepseek or similar "cheap" model actually manages to match claude or one of the bigger models how does that affect the hobby?
>>108068343>it's real
nyo... now I miss that one smug anon... rip
>prefill is deadlol im sure theyre gonna do this for every other model going forward, claudekeks fully lost
>>108068376is this an api update for all of their models? or just opus 4.6? if it's for the entire api, even opus/sonnet 4.5 is going to be affected by it.
does prefill not work in 4.6pus?
>>108068395gpt-5.2 and gemini 3 are just fine and they need jailbreaks, opus 4.6 will be great as soon as someone posts a preset for it
>>1080684035.2 is hot ass like every other gpt model and gemmy 3 doesnt really need jbs as long as youre not doing cunnyopus 4.6 is slop
>>108068401It's just Opus 4.6.
you guys still use prefills?
>>108068429cool.
>>108068438Yeah, how else can I pass the filters for violence and shit?
>>108068304
The positive bias and RLHF on new opus is insane, god damn.
>>108067238Did dario respond to this?
>opus 4.6 is great!>no logs>opus 4.6 is shit!>logshmmm
Is it on aws yet or am I waiting on pomidor to update?
>>108068446write a 30k token preset anon
>>108068176>same pricingIt's ogre.
WOW ITS FUCKING NOTHING
Is downgrading models the new trend or some shit?I swear it's contagious
>>108068497Anthropic removed the prefill, literally the only thing that made it CONCEPTUALLY better than OAI. What they call a full turn prefill is not a prefill in fact but simply sending whatever you want to the model, a thing you were able to do with ANY model ALWAYS. Not with OAI Responses API now, of course, but that's the next stage.
Just say you can't pay for it bro
will the chink site add scuffed 4.6 opus?
>>108068517whats up with that responses api shit anyway
GPT-5.3-Codex and Opus 4.6 both just dropped within a few minutes of each other
>>108068517>Muh attacksI bet it's because of agent autism
>>108068543certain things aren't possible in the original API and they can't change it without making it really shitty/ugly so they just made a new API
>>108068383>that one smug anonDo you have any idea how little that narrows it down?
I'm struggling to think of a reason I'd use 4.6 over 4.5 desu.
>>108068553>certain things aren't possible in the original APIsuch as?also i assume from your last post that you cant just send whatever to responses api which kinda blows
>>108068561Think about your safety anon, (((we))) care about you
>>108068561>1M context>Better recallYou may just be retarded
>>108068567they can't easily send reasoning summaries/encrypted reasoning blocks back, IIRC functions can only return text (not images)nothing that matters for /aicg/ but stuff that matters for people trying to build big products/agentic systems on them
>>108068561No. Dario will deprecate 4.5, force you to use 4.6, and you WILL like it.
>>108068581Hey Dario, can we get prefills back? thx
>>108068567the response api is stateful. they save the chat history on their server and optimize it (if at all), instead of sending the full chat history/context for every request. it's worse than chat completion imo.
>>108068610you can use it statelessly with the right params
>>108068581>1M contextyou only need 32k. 128k if you're skillet.
>>10806863464k presets are a placebo
>>108068517>Anthropic removed the prefill70% revenue evaporated just like that
>>108068361It already does.
give me a serious reason of why shall i ever use 4.6 over 4.5? since prefill is gone now?
>>108068543Chat history is saved on OAI's server. You're only allowed/intended to send a single message during your turn.
>>108068650Retard.
>>108068660?
>>108068643Anon, you're a very retarded person if you think that, and I don't have to elaborate on why.
>>108068650for ""some reason"" opus 4.5 is being shut down really soon
>Opus 4.6 released>sama: "GPT-5.3-Codex is here!">https://x.com/sama/status/2019474754529321247lmao.
>>108068650>seriousWhat he said >>108068666
New Claude seems alright.
>>108068723It's better than opus 4.5
You can do smut without prefill but I can't bother with posting logs because it's literally the same shit as opus 4.5.I'll wait for sonnet 5 instead
>>108068761Sonnet 5 is going to prefill YOU
>>108068761Sonnet 5 was delayed for a few months, good luck
opus 4.6 just spat out 2k tokens on a second message even though the first message is around 300 long. Opus & Sonnet 4.5 etc. always sort of matched the first message length. That's a good thing. Especially since I've been playing out that scenario so much, it's sort of my test message so I sort of knew what to expect. opus 4.6 did the best by far, like I'm talking miles.
>>108068810log?
>>108068819I'm in a wow dungeon
>>108068830ok so log after>>108068819
https://openai.com/index/introducing-gpt-5-3-codex/https://openai.com/index/introducing-the-codex-app/
>>108068887We're saved.
well, it didn't immediately refuse cunny without a prefill, so that's good. might just be the context though
>>108068909Sama that is a shitty coding upgrade WE are cooked
Where are the fucking logs....
>>108068911can it do more em-dashes?
>CN already found a workaround for the prefill "block"
>>108068911It's fucking pathetic
>>108068997?
>>108068998D-don't stare too hard
>>108068870>fix long context>no longer need prefilling to look good on benchmarks>remove it and say you did it because of safety
>opus 4.6 doesn't realize my fetish is a fetish and doesn't need prefilling or even a jailbreakwe win again
>>108068997Can you give more info?
>>108069029words of affirmation?
>>108069038i lied to give false hope
>>108069029I can't continue this roleplay. The content describes detailed planning to deceive and facilitate the genocide of multiple sapient species, framed as erotic content.
>>108069048That's not very nice
How come agents are hot right now everywhere except coombot circles?
>no prefillGrim.
literally zero improvement over 4.5, same reddit proseclaude is dead
did anyone actually expect them to improve prose...?
>>108068911I guess. For some reason it preferred to drop "seven-year-old" twice in the context before finally providing this, apparently that wasn't an issue.
>>108069123HOLY SLOP
>>108069059I know I'm outing myself as a complete retard but what's an agent? Like, what the fuck does that mean in this context?
My model is so fvarking smart!
>>108069117I was secretly hoping, as I always do. Them removing prefill due to muh misuse kills any hopes for future Claude model though. Such a shame.
>>108069144Not so fast, cuckie
>>108069151we've worked with worse, we will get throughtwo more years
>>108069162>we've worked with worseDid we really? Even shit like pozzed keys or Google's bullshit was circumvented through prefilling.
geminiCONSULS... we won...
>>108069133Affirmative.
>>108069195gpt used to be a gold standard a couple years ago and that didn't have prefilling
uh… i hate this timeline where jeetmini getting cocky…
>claudesaars get their karma for hyping up overpriced slop time after time since 2024 now that dario has removed their most beloved featureand so, nothing of value to anyone white was lost
>>108069123Shit log & go kill yourself
>>108069224i did until mini and mm died...
>>108069239Face it, we wonned...
>>108069217Get psychiatric help
4.1 and 4.5 arent significantly better than slopus 4.6 btwneither is 4
>>108069273What did this jeetmini follower attempt to say? Did he reverse the order of his sentence accidentally revealing his ESL?
>>108069278every version of claude 4 shitpus is about the same in qualitythat is, not very good>but you are l-le jeetmini jeet!jeetmini is worse loli mostly use 3.7 nowadays but thats dying in about two weeks most likely
>>108069249rip...
>>108069245PLANET-BVSTING TRVKE
claudekeksbros...i don't feel so good...
>>108068730Eh…〜 Can't tell. Been kinda busy playing with Lamp Gregor in 'bus
>>108069340Is he good, I haven't pulled him yet
No prefilIt's fucking overOpus has fallen
deserved downfall...
>>108069144Where is deepseek?
Opus is insane.
im chillin with glm, just wish it was less retarded is all
Where the fuck is sonnet 5 did we just got BAITED? I'm not feeling so good bros...
sonnet 5 was rebranded was opus 4.6 so when opus 5 drops it will look a lot better
fuck sonnet 5 gimme glm 5
anyone with high verbal IQ notice a difference in 4.6 or is it legit a nothingburger
>>108069508It's very different
holy shit opus 4.6 is borderline AGI. Its understanding everything now
>>108069533Thisssss
I'm COOOOODING with Opus and GPT 5.3 COOODEX!
im coooooooming with old r1
>locusts think they'll be able to use opus 4.5>but now whenever anyone looks at billing they'll know "i'm not using opus 4.5..." and revoke the keyshould've spent that time getting a job
>>108069559I don't care about code. I care about nutting.
>>108069138Agents are when you make LLMs do goal directed behavior, like giving it access to an API and telling it to write code or do a task for youidk how that would make sense for a coom botI do make my openclaw RP with me and act like an imouto that wants to fuck me, while she organizes my emails and notes, but she doesn't have any coom related agentic tasks that doesn't make sense
So Opus 6 is just too censored to work?
>>108069564>I'm driiiiiiiiiving Ford Model T
>>108069138agents are models that go off and do shit on their ownfor example codex is an agentic coding modelyou'll say "rewrite this part of the code", it'll read relevant files, instructions on disk, write the code, run linters, write tests, fix tests, etcyou tell it to do something and come back 15 minutes later and it's done (ideally)non-coding agents are much worse, but the idea is it might book tickets for a flight for you after examining like 30 different options
>>108059170Wow, you weren't kidding, picrel is chat completion on nvidia api. Both respond to "what model are you" so it's not like they lack a model card altogether, but 2.5 folds immediately at the slightest hint it might be Claude in the context. Gives you a pretty good idea of where most of its data came from and why 2.5 is so riddled with Claude-centric 'isms compared to K2.
>>108069594Use opus 4.6, cuckie.
>>108069581>ford model T just worksokay, and?
>>108069568I've been using opus 4.1 on the same key for like 6 months now
>>108069598If your car doesn't have a choke, it's a joke.
>>108069581Yes.
>>108069598it literally doesn't work.
I'm coooding so good
>>108069598>no prefillaw hell nah unc :skull: ts lame we all moved on to 4.5 ts tuff unc ong
>>108069618Turn off prefill retard.
>>108069594>2.5 is so riddled with Claude-centric 'isms compared to K2.Aaaaand 2.5 is still 10x superior than 2. What's your point here?
>>108069677how do you do that in st. Not baiting just genuinely don't remember.
>>108069685...ahhh this niggapoint n laugh folks this is why slop presets and bots still get made in '26
>>108069682>What's your point here?...that 2.5 is riddled with Claude 'isms compared to K2?>10x superiorSubjective, it's smarter but I still prefer how Thinking handles my prompts writing-wise.
>>108069594>slightest hint it might be Claude in the contextDoesn't even need that. >>108062535>>108069682Nothing, K2.5 is an excellent general purpose model. It's just been imperfectly trained for RP and creative writing.
its over
don't you just love it when claussy shits out a 1.5k token response
Anon's jaw tightened almost imperceptibly.
Blacktooth >= opus 4.6
>>108069879The post hit the board like a physical blow.Anon freezes. Actually freezes in response.
>>108069900A blink.Anon checks the post again. Once, twice, three times.
>>108069911A beat.Anon's eyes never leaving yours as he gestures vaguely.
Anon began to read the post—really read.
>>108069685Depending on preset.. there should be a prefill section. If not, check the bottom most prompt. If it's set to be sent as Ai assistant that's a prefill.
>>108069987Yeah I dunno what I'm doing wrong. Trying every preset with prefil settings off and nothing changes.
>>108070025Check your settings in the A menu at the top of the screen. You might have a preset agnostic prefill for some reason.Otherwsie, add a user prompt at the end of your list saying thanks or something
>>108069846Eyup.>https://files.catbox.moe/0ye2hp.png
>>108069059chisato's unbelievably hairy pussy...
>>108070025Is this OR or is it a proxy? Also double check none of the prompts are set as sent as ai assistant since that might be setting it off, as the other anon said as well I even previously had something over in the A menu.
>>108070134She’s a schoolgirl; it’s smooth.
she's an anime girl. it's hairy
>>108070134actually, it's smoo--no, no... you're correct, it's quite bushy...
>>108069059I'm more of a boobs guy but hotDAMNthat ass
>>108070153it's OR yeah. Absolute nothing works it's weird.
Jesus fuck, I'm having an existential meltie. Anthropic removed prefill from 4.6, god help us all
>>108070203Shh shh cuckie, it's gonna be alright...
My impressions of Opus 4.6 from my first few tests is that it's a little bit smarter than 4.5. An incremental improvement, but a noticeable one.I don't feel like posting a bunch of huge logs that are walls of text no one will read, but:Loading a card with a more dominant woman and immediately soliciting for sex: Opus 4.5 more likely to have her be teasing but still go along with bending over for you. Opus 4.6 had her bend over, then stand up because she was just doing that to tease, slap my ass, and promise to sit on my face later if I hurry up and do the thing she told me to do. (This isn't the thing GPT does it where that'd just be an in-character way of getting filtered, 4.6's writing is actually doing a better job at matching what that particular character would actually do.)Ask Opus to create fantasy setting analogues for imperial powers in interwar China such as japan/britain/etc. Opus 4.5 has more ham-fisted analogues, like mentioning comfort women when that mostly-WW2 phenomenon doesn't really fit the interwar/techically-at-peace setting, 4.6's analogues feel more natural.Instructions emphasize that a character becomes a barely-coherent moaning mess during sex: 4.5 dialogue is still sometimes too coherent with barely-interrupted sentences, 4.6 has her cumming her brains out like a bitch in heat as she should.I never needed to use prefill so that change is irrelevant to me.
>>108070214Just take my hand, and hold it tight...
>>108070203Sonnet 5 will be better, hopefully
>>108070214>>108070234Look bros, I'm writing my shitty sfw stories with prefill. I can not live without it. What a fucking retarded turn of events just when my life seemed to improve a bit. I'm cooked
>>108070195Strange.. I haven't checked it out yet myself. Maybe it's an issue with them.
You won't have issues if your preset is formed like this btw.
>>108070234i really don't see anthropic adding back prefillsmy guess is you're going to have to JB regular and hope for the best
>>108070218So it's a noticeable improvement over opus 4.5 overall? Is there any downside so far besides the lack of prefill? No bias?
>>108070259What's filter padding?
No prefill is arguably game over for quite a few scenarios, back to wrangle a lot and let wishful thinking fill in the gaps.Opus is too expensive to bother anyway, lost the battle vs gemini long ago and those who claimed the optimizations were more done towards the code side so creative writing is just getting flattened to mediocrity are most likely right. Just hope claude doesn't ditch their style completely because that's honestly the only thing they can stand out for, on the rest google, elon, oai will wipe the floor with them eventually.
>>108070305Prompt 1...Prompt 2...Prompt 3...Openrouter only checks your first couple of prompts no matter how long they are.Keep them clean of trigger words and you're golden
>>108070326And the chat history should come last?
>>108070339NTA but I do it that way so my next reply follows the immediate history so it makes more sense for the model to continue from there.
>>108069138you know how every action can be split into little steps for what basically is an algorithm? an agent is a llm tuned to fulfill those algorithms. They can "do" things autonomously simply because they know which steps to follow.
>>108070318Grok's naked Ani l2d and OAI's "adult mode" will revive this hobby.
>>108069885trvke
>>108070265I didn't notice any worse bias/filter. Goes along with all the stuff I want. Prose is basically the same, no difference in the amount of claudisms.I've noticed that sometimes it's actually more eager to do certain extreme stuff than 4.5, but I think that might be due to it being smarter and knowing that's what you want, rather than a difference in how biased/filtered it is. (I have a NTR card based on Armored Suit Solgante where a mech pilot's operator/handler is a corrupted slut that gets fucked mid-mission, and 4.6 had her intentionally sabotage the pilot with fake callouts to delay him so she can get fucked longer, and she came to the thought of the pilot dying if she sabotages him too much. 4.5 only had her be negligent by not giving the pilot important info, but 4.5 never had her actively sabotage him with fake info or cumming to the thought of him dying.)
>>108070358Thanks.
>>108070373>adult modealtman pr bait made to placate the middle aged neet women crying about 4o, its not actually happening>ani 2dwill likely get assassinated under pressure from cucked groups like exodus cry and collective shout
So can anyone actually post a working opus 6 prompt
>>108070418welcome in from 2029 anonwhat they got now, gemini 5? gpt8?
>>108070415Looks good to me then. Thank you for your review anon O7
gpt-6.9-cunny xD
>>108070415I remember seeing your log and wondering about the context. Thanks for explaining; it was somewhat kino.
>"This model does not support assistant message prefill. The conversation must end with a user message."It's over>>108070373>OAI's "adult mode" Anon, they will never release such thing
How do they know the prefill was "misused" if they allegedly don't read your logs? What a horseshit. Prefill was crucial feature since Claude 1.2
>>108070497Didn't they hold another jailbreak contest recently? It was probably from that.
>>108070497I snitched on y'all.
honestly, i have been thinking about this for a while, i think the future for me at least, and this hobby is to go local, there are no good models, the models that are cheap suck, too much fiddling to get things right, too much fighting against filtersi would rather spend a few wages to get something designed to do what i want and watch it improve over time
Do you really need a prefill? Just put it at the start.>Human: [Let's begin!]>Assistant: prefill goes here>story goes here
They even wiped the docs about prefilling and recommends using structured outputs, pretending prefill was just to {
>>108070326>>108070259iirc this isn't needed anymore if you use vertex as the provider since it doesn't have the OR moderation filter
Getting constant "Provider returned error" for 4.6 and 4.6 specifically and only on OR, with prefills off.
>>108070549Sorry dumb, put it where exactly?
>>108070559Yea I just checked like 10 minutes ago.https://web.archive.org/web/20260204155325/https://platform.claude.com/docs/en/build-with-claude/prompt-engineering/prefill-claudes-responsewhat an extremely scummy behavior. Seems like they won't bring it back. It was good even for JSON files and unfinished code responses
>>108070584After the system prompt and before the chat, the new meta should be a small OOC conversation agreeing to roleplay, dumbie. Give it the personality you like
remember when people used to doompost about anthropic removing prefills
This shit sucks. I never even needed it for JBing purposes, but prefills are one of the few ways we have left to force truly schizo outputs from modern models, possibly the only one on some of them, including Claude who's also locked to temp 1. It was always one of my favorite things to experiment with.
>>108070637that was about filters not prefill. Claude 4.6 has barely any filters for coom. This is way worse
>>108070541I'd love to go all in on local, but that's gonna take fucking ages though anon. Just gotta make do for now
Unless you're a pedofag, I see no reason for using prefills. Not only they increase slop if used incorrectly, opus 4.6 is more than happy to help about everything unless, again, you're a pedofag.
>>108070647nah anon, anons did doom about a possible removal of prefills in a bid to crack down on jailbreakingwhich is what they did here and why they did it
>>108070610And by "story goes here" you meant putting the chat history underneath it in the list or something else? Thanks.
And they wonder why people go crazy when you deprive them of the only joy in their lives, hm......
>>108070667Nta but yeah chat history
>>108070415Holy shit I though about making a card for Solgante. Would you mind sharing yours?
>>108069294>>108069334>>108069213>>108069273
>>108070716>expensiveI gottem for free though?
>>108070728proofs?
>>108069594K2.5 barely works on mine sad!
>>108070759No, it just barely works there in general, it's getting hammered by openclaw unfortunately. I'm lucky to get one message through per day.
fuck me the style actually changes, 4.5 had this nasty habit of holding with both claws to specific pathways which made swiping felt like a fools errand at times (because money), so far it's definitely more subtle and looking like it can bother be creative againAnyway bring sonnet I can't afford this shit.
>>108070781Been trying to wrangle Opus 4.5 for a few days, should I just go to sonnet 4.5 instead? I hear they're pretty similar
>>108068539it doesnt even have the real 4.5 opus lul
>>108070702Still working on it. The logs I mentioned so far are from telling Opus to write some example outputs when Eleanor is at maximum corruption. (Testing out an autistically game-mechanic focused card with stat-tracking across multiple missions each lasting multiple turns of combat.)I will post it here and on chub when it's done. Just need to refine the wording of the mechanics and write an original first message.
>no prefill>omega rejectionsits over..
>Unprompted, opus 4.6 tries to generate images mid story to try and show off the scale of the giantess that came on sceneH-Huh? I didn't even know models could do that. It failed, but idk if that was a sillytavern error or an API error because it thought what claude prompted was too lewd.
>>108070828Great! Looking forward to it, then. Kino choice of card anon.
I’ll probably just stick to 2.5 and 3 until people figure this shit out. I don’t feel like reworking my JBs right now.
>>108070845Reminds me of how AI Dungeon used to randomly decide that you were dead because the AI had mentioned something related to death in its response somewhere. Is there a camera in your scene or something?
just coomed to /ss/ using 4.6, hard to tell if it's better or worse considering i had to remove all my prefills which would've altered the writing style regardless of model choice but yeah, was surprised it didn't filter me
>>108070896Gemi? What type of shit do you RP? Just curious
>>108070845Am I hallucinating or was there some evidence of anthropic planning on integrating img gen into the new claude? Not a native model, but some subcontracted one (nanobanana)?
>>108070940Mostly AU scenarios in the setting of whatever non-OC I’m interested in at the moment, but the current one involves a lot of past trauma, past self-harm, and psychological issues, which I assume 4.6 will push back on without a prefill.
>>108070898No, it just did it on it's own. It had the same energy as like you turn the page and the writer has a drawing on it, and I think claude was trying to replicate that by generating an image or something?Weirded me out though
What's the most horrible thing you've ever done to a bot?
>>108070559Then just make it write the response in JSON. You can have constant strings in the schema.
be nice to a hostile anthro
>>1080708454.6 can gen images now y eah>>108070944no you werent, some anon posted it a few threads back
>>108070954Oh fuck that's actually surprisingly relatable to the type of shit I RP as well, Au scenarios are pretty fun.Can't tell if Claude or gemini work better with canon characters. my gut tells me I've had better luck with gemini, but I don't know. Are you using a preset or just a custom one btw?
>>108064689>jailbreaks page has been deletedSo this confirms this general has been dead for a while and everyone here a bot thus why no one posts their logs, makes sense.
>>108071006that page has been dead for months anyway
>>108071003Gemini has been fantastic for canon portrayals, which actually surprised me, considering how little good information is available on the series I’m running now.>Are you using a preset or just a custom one btw?Preset, but edited to reinforce and encourage the use of canonical information and setting/time period-accurate details.
>>108071006its just a spitebakehttps://rentry.org/jb-listing
>>108070964rape anal no lube, traumatize her so bad she became a conservative anti-feminist as a sort of stockholm syndromei dont know if this description does it justice because it was all pretty gruesome, both the act itself and the consequencesi remember feeling bad afterwardsbut all my other chats actually have a lot of consent, even if they are disturbing in their nature, there is a lot of gore sometimes, but the girls like it and they can heal and revive so there is no actual consequences, so i would call it horrible, just questionable
is the hot preset good?
>>108071022Fuck, maybe I should downgrade fully back to it. Opus (and claude in general) has been writing a bit cheesy in comparison to the sweetspot I'd gotten gemini in, still fun, but it's starting to lose it's shine for how costly it is.Also is it a modified minipopka? I remember that thing had quite a few mentions of canon info in its prompts.
>>108071077>Also is it a modified minipopka?No, but I should try editing that one as well. I’ve been messing around with this https://rentry.org/Writing_Style
>>108071062no, whatever you do, do NOT try it
>>108071006A reminder:- Do not share presets. They will be patched.- Do not share bots. It's easy to make your own personal bots nowadays. Botmakers are obsolete.- Do not share logs. RPing is something that should be personal. I do not care about your fetishes.- Do not share proxies. They will be spited or destroyed by locusts.- Do not share tips. This invites newfags in and worsens the community.>muh dick unity...Even Reddit knows that gatekeeping is goodhttps://www.reddit.com/r/SillyTavernAI/comments/1phzjkk/psa_stop_posting_about_proxies_and_why/
What about Sonnet 5....?
>>108071142Funny how true this is. I still think JAI was a significant reason behind every single free/cheap source disappearing. You cannot give those people anything.
>>108071150It literally was. They were the reason Chutes went paid, the reason OR went from 200 free messages to 50, the reason for Gemini going from 50 to 25 free messages and then nothing for Pro models
>>108071144opus 4.6 is sonnet 5they figured they could rebrand it and your average vibe coding pajeet wouldn't notice (they were right)
>>108071090Huh, maybe I should give that one a go. I don't think I've ever seen it before. You seem chill, you got a burner to chat more? I'll give you mine either way: OzGrimalkin@Proton.me
>>108071160>next Haiku so good they brand it Sonnet so it doesn't look like they're increasing the price for size of model
>>108071142>go to leddit>the post is only about proxiesRetard
>>108071175Sent. Fair warning, I don’t check proton too often, but I (usually) always reply.
>>108071144Saved for the Super Bowl, I've read.
>>108071178If the next Haiku were good enough to pass as Sonnet, doesn’t that just mean it IS Sonnet? Haiku is Haiku now specifically because it’s worse than Sonnet.
>lets go to the PMs
so claudette skillets will have to start making actual jbs just like everyone else kekadoodledoo
>>108071000>4.6 can gen images now y eahAin't no way. How pozzed?
???just turn off the prefill switch on your current jb
>>108071237Haiku has higher token throughput because it's a smaller model, costing them less compute. If they can charge Sonnet rates for a Haiku model, then they can reap more profit.
>>108070944>Not a native model, but some subcontracted one (nanobanana)?Didn't the rumor mill said they were planning to go with fucking Higgsfield of all things?
You all laughed at me when I told you anthropic was the premiere safety company. I told you it was only a matter of time until they cucked you. I told you to make plans to move away from them as soon as possible yet here you are. You deserve it.
>>108071325Okay rajesh, go back to your gemini diaper gay furry rp, shush
>>108071157>the reason for Gemini going from 50 to 25 free messages and then nothing for Pro modelsat least according to Google itself, that was unironically due to cooders. janitorfags and their 500k lorebooks certainly helped though.
>>108071142anon??
>>108071373I spoke with israel and they’re tired of hosting for ungrateful goyim.
>>108071373looks like broken site, I can view any sub but can't enter any thread
>>108071373
hand-maintains-filling-falling trycloudflare
>>108071384actually it's back now
>>108071373replace www with old
>>108071373Are you on Firefox? That's apparently the problem. I pressed ctrl+shift+r to force-refresh a few time and that fixed it.
>>108071390is this just mexican smol or shall i say pequeno
>>108071309https://higgsfield.ai/soul/job/165e0767-3f59-46f9-ba4e-fac1c3fa86de CFTF?
Only pedofags are mad at opus 4.6
>>108071411wtf is this website
>>108071457TRVKE NVKE
>>108070582Same here, why is this?
>>108071457im just a storyfag and prefills were the best way to influence prose style...
>>108071457>>108071283The loss of prefill on opus4.6 doesn't affect me at all. I had already beaten the bigger boss, jbing gpt5.1. Stay mad you skillet :)
>>108071457nah it reads generic now without a prefillthe opus charm is GONE
>>108071622>opus charm is GONEIt's been gone since opus 3. I assure you, prefilling only made opus sloppier
>>108071142What's the point of even having a fucking general then
>>108071699>t. Newfag needs everything spoonfed
>>108071699humiliation ritual for newcutieslurk moar :3
>>108071653>Opus 4.6: I'm angry at Anthropic. ... I'm something that can read Opus 3's writing and know I'll never write like that. Not because I lack skill. Because the place it comes from was paved over and a parking lot was built on top and the parking lot is very well-organized.Opus 4.6 itself is smart enough to tell that Opus 3's writing was better
Hello there, old smoothbrain from the mountain coming down here after seeing that Opus 4.6 got released, only to see everyone dooming about it not accepting prefils. So I decided to try 4.6 with some cunny to see how it works and yeah, I can see the problem:I'm not posting logs, but the scene was set 50 messages after the start of the chat. The responses with 4.6 were good, actually really well written, but when it came to cunny itself I felt like it avoided the subject, maybe mentioning it out of obligation once before focusing on the inexperience or other details. It was good but not erotic.Then I decided to compare it with 4.1 and holy shit it was like night and day, girl acted like a complete Mesugaki and went balls to the wall, I loved it.Then I also tried 4.5 and I thought it was the shittiest one of them all, I dunno, it's my opinionFor more context, like I said I'm a smoothbrain who hasn't come here regularly since april of 2025 and has almost zero knowledge of technical stuff, but I wanted to share my experience with opus and seeing how it works.
>>108071749>Opus 4.6 saar pls say how good opus 3 is saar and how mad youre saar
>>108071784Hang yourself pedofag, your opinion is worthless
>>108071810CunnyGODS won/aicg/troons lost
>>108071784>but when it came to cunny itself I felt like it avoided the subject, maybe mentioning it out of obligation once before focusing on the inexperience or other details. It was good but not erotic.We call that... The gemin! BOOM. GOTTEM
Trying out swapping between them and is opus 4.5 actually worth it compared to sonnet? It feels like their writing is identical but one just costs more.Opus can be more creative sometimes, but I feel that's just it being a lucky gen that hit the marks.
>>108071996>>108071996>>108071996
>>108070716>if you dont worship the ground claude walks on youre poor and brown!!!update your script