>no more hidden, automated, electrical car handles>mechanical, manual car handles ONLYWhy does China hate innovation?
what happens when a handle fails? guess it's no different than locking yourself inside.
isnt it because it trapped people inside?
>>108069965>Snow melts and turns into ice overnightHandle fails>electrical failureHandle fails>any other bullshitHandle failsThey're against retardation, not innovation. Not everything that's different and "techy" is innovation.
>>108069978>>108069982I think they're talking about the outer handle?So locking yourself outside which can be annoying but not dangerous.
I hope they'll ban cars with fucking touch screens instead of buttons next. I fear the day my old car will break, modern cars are pure cancer.
>>108069994It does seem like a solvable problem though.Just because Tesla cheaps out and is retarded doesn't mean everybody has to be.And they do have a real world purpose by reducing drag and thus extending the range of electric vehicles.I think I would design them in such a way that there's always a manual overwrite.For example if they pushed in instead of coming out you can force it in when the motor failed or it's covered in ice.It could even just be a slot with a plastic flap over it to reduce drag.
>>108069995probably you left a kid in the car and the handle failed
>>108070031>And they do have a real world purpose by reducing dragMinimally.
>>108070035I guess that could happen but you obviously shouldn't leave kids in the car in the first place.And in such an event you can always smash a window.
>>108069965Good.Make certain physical buttons in the dash a requirement too.Everything being in a fucking tablet fucking sucks.
>>108070079Thank goodness I only have to replace a window and not something expensive.
>>108070124You care about a window when your child's life is as risk?Maybe let that be a lesson for you to never leave your child in a locked car ever again.
>>108070031>And they do have a real world purpose by reducing drag and thus extending the range of electric vehicles.How much extra range does having a hidden car handle have over a traditional, mechanical car handle? If an EV's range is 500km, does having mechanical car handles reduce it to 480km? How big of a difference does it make?
what was the point of those handles anyways? I don't know a single person that thought they were better than just a regulkar handle.
>>108070192Less than 0.1%.
>>108070079Car windows are hard to break, even with a rock. A woman who gets locked out gets to watch her kid bake while waiting for help. You're not guaranteed to find that rock either.
>>108070192Probably something like that.And if it's the difference between making it to the charger or getting stuck somewhere that's a huge deal.
>>108070031What problem does having gimmicky car door handles solve though?
>>108070194marketing + job security
>>108070213>but but but it's in the carBorrow it from someone>but but but I will be in the middle of nowhere with no cars around and I'm an utter retard who locks kids in cars and then all 4 door handles fail all at onceIn that case you shouldn't reproduce.
>>108069965based
Even Grok is shitting on Elon's hidden car handles. It brought up China unprompted and said they were doing the right thing over safety concerns because the performance edge is minimal.
>>108070228Range
everything should have a MANUAL OVERRIDE
>short in the battery>short causes battery to catch fire>electrical systems fail>doors won't open>windows are unbreakable>panic, weep, and cry>burn to death screaming in agonymechanical handles is a safety feature we've taken for granted
>>108069965Good choice we banned those opening headlights for the same reasonEssential components should be built up from an essential foundation, leave the flair for the bumper
>>108069965天啊,我現在超愛中國的
so the timeline is, in the mid 2000s the eu crash tests basically got rid of sovl recessed door handles that dominated the 80s, 90s and 2000s, because they were impossible to open with impact damage. And for the next decade all we had were these ugly closet handles.the "evil electric" door handle removed that pitfal of the old recessed ones by automatically unlocking the door in an acident, even with the door and lock rods bent (they still exist).Of course chinks screwed up big time, like enough people died in chink bev's for the ccp to pass a law, and thats a regime that doesnt give a fuck about its worker ants. Notice how this shit is not pushed even in the nanniest of european countries?>>108070276they do>>108070294even shit bev's run on dual battery with reliable lead acid for board system. Like nobody ever made that argument for airbags which rely on a shitton of electronics
>>108070226>And if it's the difference between making it to the charger or getting stuck somewhere that's a huge deal.Then you can say the same thing about it on petrol vehicles.
>>108070276I remember reading about a similar problem in a scifi novel called Engines of God. I thought it was ridiculous that there were no manual overrides in space shuttles in the future. This was one of the many stupid moments in the story. I thought the story was bad, but then I realized the author was actually writing about a future idiocracy.
>>108069965>get into crash>car catches fire>electrical goes out>can't open door>get roasted aliveBasic safety.
>>108070411VW built 11 million cars that exhaled poisonous gas, made software to hide it from tests, and never got a notworthy fine by the EU or Germany.In fact, the German government even gifted them taxpayer money, to make up for the losses they encounter because of the evil Americans fining them for their crimes.If you treat the fucking EU as the gold standard for car safety, you should take a gun and blow your brain out.
>>108070411Last november three people slowly burned to death in a cybertruck because the guy who wanted to help and open the doors couldn't.
>>108070682>that exhaled poisonous gasWay to be melodramatic, every dieselgate car is cleaner than any euro 3 or 2 build before.and diesel gate technicaly didnt break a law in germany, in fact they followed it word by word. if anything, blame the law makers who didnt put "car must perform the same on the road as on the dyno" in the dine print, i shit you not
>>108070031>>108069994Alright lets think about this for a moment.... If your car windows ice up what exactly do you do? Hmm.... you start the car and let it heat up. Electric cars and many gas cars have autostart features. These auto start features turn on and head the handle up melting the ice including melting the window ice. This is a none issue for luddite faggots who hate technology or anything new. Why the fuck are you even on the fucking /g/ technology board? Why are you niggers even here? Go to reddit and complain about it. You utter retarded niggers.>handle fails if fireThis problem can be solved by placing a mechanical release which there are in many of these fucking doors where you push in or pull out. The issue is the CHINKS don't want to fix the problem or>>108070213>>108070256hello retards the sharp end of your fucking car keys or any kind of sharp part can easily shatter windowsOh and lats not forget that car handles like here in this image >>108070411would get ice in them as well and stop it from working as well. The fucking thing would get fucked by ice just as bad as the handle less ones.
>>108070682holy cope, the eu is the gold standard for car safety. Your shithole propably approved the cybertruck
>>108070727so you are telling me that the EU has actually lower standards, when its about gases that actually harm humans.The VW poison cars where 40times above the allowed NOx threshold.Its not just slightly above, its 40 times!
>>108070704Came here to post this exact article.
>>108069995I've read stories about people getting into crashes and dying cause no one could open the door in time to help them out
>>108070755Aren't Tesla brazen bulls also produced by a factory near Berlin?Why does China outlaw those human-sacrifice-inducing door handles, but the le epic EU doesn't?Even thought that there is no shortage of examples of those door handles causing harm.
>>108070773Yeah but not on the test stand, which is whats relevant for certification.the magic of dieselgate was that the car increased egr rate during standstill (dyno, road block or red light)In fact they did everybody a favor by lowering egr rate and doubling engine lifetime You dont have an argument beside muh fee fees
>>108070801>Even thought that there is no shortage of examples of those door handles causing harm.All the euro cars that have them score higher in independent crash tests than their last models
>>108070827holy shit, you fucking liarI wont even bother replying to that bullshit you made up in your head. Everything you claim is wrong. Just read an article about it. I am not going to talk to someone living in a psycho delusion.Its like claiming that 2+2=5
>>108070491There is a manual override to open the doors even if power goes out, just retards that don't RTFM
>>108070859yes stop replying you retarded green faggo choke on xi's dick
>>108070844How is this related to those door handles evidentally causing death, with real world examples?China forbids something that causes people to die in horrible ways. Thats a good thing in my book.
>>108070704>>108070793>>108070795Image not reading the fucking manual
I am sure the three people who died in the US a few months ago, because the car burned and the person who wanted to help them get out couldn't open the door, cause the handles wouldnt come out, are very happy to hear that according to EVROPEAN tests, those handles are safe and effective.
>>108070895so if you see someone passed out in a burning car, you only have to smash in the window to get to the hidden mechanic handle that is on the inside
>>108070919Or just take the guy out after you broke the window
>>108070031>For example if they pushed in instead of coming out you can force it in when the motor failed or it's covered in ice.Im not sure about other EVs but that is exacty how Tesla door handles already work. Even inside the cars there are emergency door release that are manual that accessible on the door itself in the event or an emergency that the battery dies. I feel like people who complain about EV door handles have no idea how they actuall work and just go off of clickbait horror storys.
>>108070930why cant i just open the door?
>>108070936Because if there was a crash the door most likely will be jammed anyway
>>108070936That would make for poor rage bait
>>108070950not all the doors
>>108070739Are you retarded? If your car windows ice up you can still get inside of your carIf you're having an emergency and need to use your car NOW you can't wait for the autostart to heat up the handle just so you can get inside of your own fucking propertyStop being retarded, just because some tech is new doesn't mean it's useful
>>108070961>>108070952>>108070936>>108070950BREAK THE FUCKING WINDOWS. They fucking sell window breakers for keychains if your so damn fucking worried.
>>108070273wrong
>>108070971No shit that's what I just said why do you quote me dumbass?
>>108070961youd be correct, but you are forgetting metal compresses so id make it impossible to open them even with no apparent damage
>>108070961Look bro just die so you don't sue our company alright?
>>108070971why prefer to open a door
>>108070969>need to use your car NOWIf your windows are iced up and your handle is frozen you aren't going to be able to go anywhere NOW at all. Even if you could drive off having the window iced up sticking your head out the window won't work either because the roads are probably fucked up anyway. >just so you can get inside of your own fucking propertyall cars require you to wait for something. If the car handles are frozen a lot of the time the car door is also frozen so ripping it open wouldnt be an option either.
>>108070990>why prefer to open a doorif its an emergency and the door doesnt work break the window.
>>108069965How was this even a thing to begin with?!
>>108070985I am sure that there are plenty examples of car accidents where the person helping could just open a door.I take a wild guess here and claim that its probably most of them.
>>108071018you obviously have never been in a car crash before.
>>108069965They should also ban those seagul door too. And rouch screen. TESLA cars are designed to kill.
>>108071009How do you think does this look like, dragging a passed out person through a tiny broken window with shards all around?If i cant open a door, you will burn to death in your car, sorry bro.
>>108069965Watch out EU, there's a new regulator in town.
if mobile suits don't need electric handles why do teslas? checkmate elon
>>108071043>shards all around?do you think car windows break like regular windows? lmao fucking kys zoomer?
>>108071018just think about it ranjeesh i know its hard, but why do you think firefighters carry the jaws of life around?
>>108071028Did you ever see a broken window?The thing you want to drag an injured or passed out person through?
>>108070031>dragthat's a solved problem
>>108069965holy hell China is based. I fucking hate electric door handles.
>>108069965chinks are too stupid to learn and operate emergency handleyou think the nanny state is bad in the west? you aint seem nothing
>>108071047HOLY SHIT, how was he able to open the door after an accident? I thought thats impossible????
>>108069965too many people have been locked in the car and died. it's a fucking retarded design.
>>108071047yeah that was the door handles fault lmao. why the fuck couldn't the crawl through the front seat out the front doors? the fuck
>>108071047Can't they just jump to the front seats and exit?
>>108071059you are a fucking retard >>108071051
>>108070895okay now do this in a panic situation and you don't know where that is because it's not your car. GO! Oh and the car is on fire btw. you have 16 seconds before it's too late. oh too late you are ded. better luck next life.
>>108071051I live in the EU and got my car windows smashed in by gypsies twice, so i know very well how that looks like.I found shards even a year later. No matter how well you clean, there are always some left.
>>108071081you must have missed the part where they were knocked unconscious. also did you see how fucking fast that whole thing was engulfed? do you want to try that you dumb fuck?
>>108071089You are acting like these "shards" are huge when they are bits of tiny glass that dont fucking matter.
It's funny how there is some EU shill here, who defends those death-trap handles, simply because it was the Chinese who did the correct thing and ban them first.
>>108071091the that tiny crash caused all of them to be knocked unconscious? i call bullshit.
>>108070895Normies or walkies don't know this. They're not gonna turn to page 69 when you're burning to death
>>108071102You never saw a broken car window in your life, did you?
>>108070877>dude just remove this obscure panel and pull this random cable while you're getting cooked alivelmao
>>108071047Bless those guys who immediately knew what's going on and run in to help.
>>108071050tesla: send secure radio signal or fingerprint to electric door handlenuclear-armed gundam: push to open fridge door with the keys in the ignition
>>108070895>if equippedLmaoYour last thought while burning to death will be "why didn't I get a normal car?"
>banning literal death trap door handles that will not open if the power is cut in a car crash is bad according to EUnuchsfucking hell manimagine if mr xi decided to ban electric windows next for the same reason
>>108071126What's even worse is that so many anons itt couldn't even imagine a scenario of the person inside being injured or unconscious.Even thought that it is the one scenario you train in every first aid course.It really shows you just how dumb the average person here is.
>>108071152The power doesnt get cut in a crash. The first thing fire fighters do when arriving is disconnecting the batterie.is it low iq hours already?
>>108071118i've been in many car accidents fag.
>>108071111You read it before using the car dumbass
>>108071164maybe you should learn how to drive
>>108071154>inside being injured or unconscious.if someone in the car is injured or unconscious it is most likely due to being in an extremely bad car crash. If that is the case the car doors are most likely not going to open in the first place. Even with normal handles on car doors. I've had family who have used safe gas cars with REAL MANLY handles that never freeze unable to open the fucking door.
There was also an accident where a Tesla crashed into a tree and it got found with five corpses inside and burning. And the five corpses where stacked in the front, according to the police report it appeared as if they tried to get out but couldn't.
>>108071168If you drive as long as I have you are bound to get into a car crash due to other peoples incompetence. The kind of incompetence you are showing now.
>>108071180>there is NO chance that in ANY car crash with an injured or unconcious person, there would be a door able to be opened.We had a case a week ago where someone had a heart attack while driving slowly.
>>108071168I have personally participated in several car accidents but it's ok because they glew in the dark.
>>108071163i've been in a serious car crash once before and all power was cut because the battery was destroyed by the impact but in this case I guess it depends on your car's battery placementalso>what is crashing into the water
>>108071204does this count as ghost ridin da whip
>>108071204The car doors would be locked most likely anyway which would mean you'd have to bust out the fucking window. you retarded nigger.
>>108071212Its getting more and more absurd.
>>108071212The battery for the tesla door handles is in the front right :)Thank god that crashing with the front right side against something is a totally unheard of scenario.
>>108071227why would they be locked?
>>108071256do you know how cars work?
>>108071256All cars made in the last 20 years lock their doors when starting to drive. Its a safeguard against getting hijacked at red lights
>>108069965GOOD. Not only is it a safety hazard, it's horribly unreliable in cold climates.I don't care about your special snowflake design by some wanker in the sales department, I want something intuitive that just fucking works 100% of the time.
>>108071266Sir this is the neet board
The US Congress is working on a SAFE Access act to ban those handles as wellhttps://www.congress.gov/congressional-record/congressional-record-index/119th-congress/2nd-session/securing-accessible-functional-emergency-safe-exit-act/1977543https://www.consumerreports.org/cars/car-safety/unsafe-electronic-car-door-handles-safe-exit-act-a1099298865/All countries that care about safety are currently working on such regulations. Because there are already many many cases of people who fucking died because of those handles.The brand doesn't matter either. All cars that have such handles are a danger.
>>108071212>trying to reason with EUnuchswaste of timeif china bans jumping from windows today then these "people" will start jumping from windows en masse tomorrow because "china bad"
>>108071278My car doesn't.The car of my sister does, but only while its above 10 kmh, so not at a traffic light stop.And my parents car did it but they immediately turned that shit off.
>>108071307>if china bans jumping from windows today>zoomxii doesnt know about foxconwhat a wonderful land caring for its people
>>108071324We have anti-suicide nets at our local bridge for decades already. Fucking chinks can only copy.
>>108071068You'll notice, retard-kun, that he's initially able to open the door when the car still has power, but after it falls closed is no longer able to open it again due to the power loss.
This is great, fuck all of the useless enshittified meme tech that's all about form over function.It makes no sense to over engineer something as simple as a functional door handle to a new form that's liable to fail due to being dependent on other systems.
>>108069965>NOOOOO YOU MUST INVENT GIMMICKY SHIT FOR THE SAKE OF INNOVATION>YOU ASS AYY>YOU ASS AYY>YOU ASS AYY
>>108071340Americans paid 224 million USD for a suicide net at the Golden Gate bridge.
If i would sit in a crashed car, i would prefer someone, who comes to help me, to be able to open the door.idk why there are people itt who legitimately and unironically argue against this.
>>108070682The VW Id 4 is one of the cars with the most door handle issues. They also have the Tesla bullshit, just even worse.They have issues with water getting in and the door unexpectidly opening, and they also had cases of people locked in or locked out.VW is again the brand with the lowest quality and highest amount of issue.It is a consistent occurance in the past 15 years.
>>108069965Imagine depending on software that can be remotely changed for you to get in or exit your car.No thanks. I will never even buy a car that has an internet connection in any way and I recommend everybody to join me. If we continue to tolerate this crap it can only end one way.
>>108071188>If you drive as long as I have you are bound to get into a car crash due to other peoples incompetence. The kind of incompetence you are showing now.If you're a good driver you can avoid even accidents that are technically not your fault. Not in all cases. But if you routinely get into accidents you either drive in a 3rd world country where nobody gives a shit about street laws, or you are a bad driver who road rages often.
>>108069965Why? People keep complaining about them anyway? They would be gone organically soon enough.
>>108070895if they're putting in the mechanism anyway, why hide it?
>>108070226Door handles are not scraping off 20km of range form a 2 ton vehicle. Get real, nigga.
>>108071126>peel off the protective covering>slide the plastic >press the 2 buttons together>turn the handle>while doing a handstand>singing the national anthem>"God bless America">in order to unlock the door manuallyI'm sure everybody can do this in 5 seconds while you get dazed by a car crash and you're on fire and definitely not panicking.
>>108070919>>108070930Sorry, you're not breaking through the bulletproof glass.
>>108071566im sorry but no that isn't true. You clearly dont fucking drive.
>>108071303this shit is fucking gay they need to just make it so there is an exterior button under the door or some shit somewhere. I think in some lambos there are hidden buttons for emergency door opening.
>>108071063Remember when these retards roasted to death in the Cybertruck?Was kino.
>>108070895nigga this from the manual to the cybertruck and it only works from the inside indoorhttps://youtu.be/6PbRBbIGnv4?si=JsLHe9BypIUvRvGO&t=42
*crickets*
>>108071408>If i would sit in a crashed car, i would prefer someone, who comes to help me, to be able to open the doorYeah but it doesn't look COOL. Do you want to lose AURA? You'll get no hunnies.
>>108069978>>108069982>>108069965I saw a video earlier of an xpeng crashing and lighting on fireturned into a raging blaze in 30 seconds, so the owners and some random other guys smashed the windows inapparently one of the 3 passengers died because it just took too long
even fighter jets have big arrows telling the ground crew how to get the pilot out in a crash
>>108071954Yeah, even after training a billon hours, in a time of panic, people forget.
>>108071946Yeah firefighters hate EV's cause they catch fire fast, things burn forever, cant put them out after dumping 100s of gallons and release toxic gas so crashes with them are being labeled hazmat in most states.
>>108071047I really like the feature of the car burning from inside fisrt
>>108071954>witches staircase ladder>rungs half the width of your foot>obviously made of plasticHow are you suppose to go back down that while carrying an unconscious pilot without it breaking under the weight of 2 full grown men? Seems that's all for show and not meant to be functional at all.
>>108069965there is a related webm on /pol/ right now that answers your question
>>108069965Probably because they keep bursting into flames
>>108070031>It could even just be a slot with a plastic flap over it to reduce drag.holy retard
>>108070474No you can't. They have longer range and refilling is effortless compared to recharging.
>>108072200>>obviously made of plasticThey are almost certainly metal. If they were plastic, there would be 1000 hour tests showing they could support the weight of a hippo, these are military aircraft standards.
>>108070031>Mental gymnastics
Honestly I hope the Chinese and the retarded euros manage to kill innovation to send us into a 2nd dark age like what religion did. It would do this planet some good. We need to experience that 2nd dark age so we can appreciate what was lost from the innovation of capitalism, like planned obsolescence, AI slop, subscriptions to use the toilet, and other things we all know and love.
>>108070895Good, this belongs in the dustbin. The Chinese are in the right here
>>108071946I too saw that video today, my fellow Redditor.
>>108070256>Imagine being this much of a simp for jewish overlords.
>>108070256>not included, surviving (if you aren't unconscious) comes as a DLC!Plwease and thwankyo!
>>108071920Werent they going 80 mph or something and crashed head and was dead?
Even when they're normally working they pop out so fucking slow for muh aesthetic instead of just instantly pop outSo fucking dumb
>>108069965>Why does China hate innovation?Because innovation SUCKS.
Luddite bastards, both them and so many itt
>>108069965Fucking based. Hidden door handles seem really cool and high tech until winter comes and ice gets in it.
>>108072498But it could still be the difference between making it to a gas station or setting stuck somewhere.
How do we make sure that no one else follow this so liberal faggots get cooked alive by their EV?
>>108069965I'm fucking seething why can this piece of shit communist retarded country do this but not muh epic west I swear they'll ban those dogshit disgusting and frankly insanely dangerous LED headlights before EU and for sure before US too but hey we made apple use USB-C a standard that will surely at last be the last really shoving this faggot ass usb standard down everyone's throat and somehow still failing just because of how much USB-A there already is is the only thing I can pick out that the fucking EU ever even did besides shoveling in somalis jeets and towelheadniggers that piss their pants over a cartoon of their beloved omnipotent childfucker
>>108073239They never seemed cool nor hightech. It's exactly the thing a clueless designer on his Mac would come up with. Someone with absolutely zero sense for functionality and practicability.
>>108073427It is cool, but it is also retarded.>No, it is not possible to open Tesla Cybertruck doors from the outside if the vehicle has no power, even if the doors were unlocked after the crash
>>108069965This actually sounds reasonable from a safety / emergency situation point of view. You don't want the door handle depending on some fancy electronic system with no obvious way to open manually via strictly mechanical means.
>>108073604Ah, but you can just break a window!
Is it really beyond current engineering skills to make a flush mechanical push button that opens the door and pops out the handle?
>>108073631Even if cybertruck didnt have special nigproof windows, it is much more time consuming in the event of emergency for random untrained person. I guess it is up to every person to decide if he wants to take risk to drive in such car.
>>108069994so what your saying is that tesla should add heaters to their handles to ice proof it and add a secondary motor with its own uninterruptible power supply to avoid electrical failures
>>108071946>xpeng goes bang
>>108069965All Chinese cars have hidden handles.
The cult of Telsa would rather burn alive in their cars then use a mechanical handle
>>108070895>>108070933
>>108070936You mean the door will suddenly unlock when the car crashes?
>>108069965Trapping people in the car when the battery goes up in flames is not "innovation".>b-but there's an emergency latch just read the manualBystanders trying to rescue people who can't get out by themselves don't know that and can't look it up when every second counts.
>>108069965I am old enough to have started driving with cars that didn't have central locking. You had to mechanically lock and unlock every door individually.When the first generations of central locking systems came, they were prone to break.Either the little motor broke or the linkage within the doors got bent or, if they had it, the pulley broke.In my lifetime, i had to take apart door panels on my cars to fix the locking mechanism five times on five different cars.And only two years ago i had to take apart the steering wheel of a newish mercedes, because the little motor to unlock the steering wheel lock broke.Every time you thought they figured locking systems out, they added new shit on top of it that again resulted in you having a chance to get locked in or out.It is so illogical and bad, that you may think that they do satanic sacrifices. Burning victims in a closed metal box sounds a lot like a Canaanite blood libel ritual.I was a volunteer for the red cross for five years as well and saw my fair share of acccidents where car locks made it harder to get an injured person out. The only thing you need, to turn a minor accident, that only resulted in a broken leg, into a burning torture death, is for the car to catch on fire.Because guess what: The mechanical handles don't allow you to open the door either, if the door is locked :^)Not even from the inside, because muh children could open the door accidentally or a nigger could smash the window in and use the inside handle.Whenever you hear about an accident where the fire brigade had to come with an hydraulic clamp to force a door open, are you sure that this happened because the door was deformed?Because many times its really just the lock. And car locks breaking is daily business.
>>108075229If you have your car locked while driving, you yourself voluntarily chose to die by fire.
>did you guys know china bad??>now be a good goy, buy an overpriced ford and work so you can send taxes to israel
Without hidden door handles how can car manufacturers reinforce their intellectual property rights? If some freeloading welfare queen wants luxury doors that open and close, she needs to pay her premium door subscription like everyone else. Otherwise she can climb out the window until she finds a job. More motivation to work harder. Simple.
>>108075709Literally nobody buys Teslas anymore. They've been going down for 2 years now. Only Americans buy them.Hell, in Europe, where the EV market just took 51% over ICE vehicles, Chinese EVs sold more than Teslas. In Germany, Chinese EVs sold twice as many as Teslas in January this year, and that's with the Chinese tariffs slapped onto them.Luckily for Elon, he can continue selling fewer and fewer cars, yet Tesla's stock will be rising and rising.
>>108075766Yeah but DATA CENTERS IN SPACE MAAAAAN what if they made a solar panel but out of ROADS
>>108075766weird, because the EV marker in Europe is going down the second year in a row now.>b-but in PERCENTAGE to sold carsalmost as if Europoors can't afford cars right now, with their multi-year recession
>>108075766I support this, because Teslas get manufactured in Germany and i would love to see even more german industry to get utterly wrecked.VW closed a manufacturing plant that produced EVs just last year :)
>>108069995>I think they're talking about the outer handle?Nah, they banned those electric opening mechanisms because there have been tens of thousands of car accidents where the people inside the car have burned to death because the damn doors couldn't be opened.If only it was that the car doesn't have a battery and they can't get inside, but no, lots of people have died because of this.
>>108071127>Bless those guys who immediately knew what's going on and run in to help.On chinese internet videos like this are pretty common, although in most of them, the people trapped inside don't have such massively good fate, that's why they knew what to do instantly.
I hate Europoors so fucking much its unreal.As if their tiny market (that is shrinking!) is relevant for anything.Chinese manufacturers sit on an internal market of 1.4 billion people who get wealthier by the day. Every year more Chinks get wealthy enough to afford cars, while Europoors become poorer and drive with older cars for a longer time, because they are taxed so hard and they simply can't afford it.Chinese sold 31.44 million cars in 2024.Europeans bought 12 million cars in 2024.How are Europoors relevant for ANYTHING. Half of the EU countries are third world shitholes like Bulgaria or whatever the fuck.Do you see Indonesians run around shouting>BUT WE IN INDONESIAyou have no power, get lost.You arent allowed to browse 4chan anyway, which violates the GDPR, the DSA, and everything else there is.Why dont you have your own platform, you losers?China has their own internet platforms. Russia has their own internet platforms. Meanwhile you leeches have to sit on American platforms and consume American propaganda.
>>108071102>when they are bits of tiny glass that dont fucking matterThey still can cut through your skin like nothing, you're acting as if they wouldn't have sharp borders.
>>108070997>>108070739t. has never lived anywhere with winterYou can scrape your windows clean of ice. One coat of silicone on the door seals before winter keeps the doors from freezing into the body, a drop of oil in the lock keeps it working in freezing conditions. A couple of minutes with a scraper and a broom gets you on the road even if your car was a complete igloo. But often you need a bit of force to pull the door open because there's a small layer of ice and snow on the edges of the door. And the door handle is going to be iced or snowy throughout winter. >muh roads are undrivableSay hello to winter tires, ones with three peaks and a snowflake. Perfectly drivable through the winter. Roads are cleared after it snows. The warmest it has been for the past month is -15°C. That's 5 in freedom units. Yet my car works perfectly fine because it has actual door handles. Sometimes you have to give it a good hard pull because of ice. But I can't remember the last time I was stuck outside my car.
>>108075907ok shlomo
>>108075679>if your pants are zipped in public, you deserve to pee your pants
>>108070031There is no reason to create that problem in the first place.
>>108076301KEK
>>108070895Try recalling what you read in the manual, and doing this while concussed, in a flaming vehicle.This design is so pants on head retarded that it is hard to believe it was ever legal.
>>108069965It's because countless Chinese got trapped in their electric cars as they burst into flames.Teslas also burst into flames but the media won't cover it closely. Electric cars are bad enough fire hazards that the technology shouldn't be legal.
>>108069965That's not innovation, that shit turns those freak cars into lithium fire death traps.
>>108070370Broken clock.
>>108070019The benefit of touch screen compared to physical buttons + smaller screen/LED buttons is that it's easier to show a lot of output at the cost of ease of input.Once driving input should always be the focus, except for GPS navigation, and for that physical buttons are obviously superior.I can't believe how this can be so hard to understand for CEOs because most engineers sure as fuck understand it.
>>108074981Then just hop the seat to get to the front door? The model 3 is small and if you are incapacitated and cant climb over a seat then you arent getting out regardless if there is a door release in the back or not.
>>108070031Bait
>>108070895What if it's not your car, and you are on the back seat, maybe on a taxi, and it gets filled with smoke so fast you can't see shit.At the very least the interior handles shouldn't be electric.
>>108071896I never thought of bullet proof glass as a Hazard, wow. If I ever manage to be able to afford a car one day I definitely won't go that. I've changed my mind
>>108071081>>108071075I've heard it was a taxi so there was one of those acrylics panels in it.
>>108077124Most cars don't use that glass, but thanks to the nhsta laminate glass is becoming more common for side windows. Laminate windows are pretty much unbreakable through traditional means like a glass breaker and require either an axe of saw to cut through in an emergency. Tesla is noteable for using them.
>>108070031>And they do have a real world purpose by reducing drag and thus extending the range of electric vehicles.You have no idea what you're talking about, retard
>>108075229Modern cars actually do unlock in a crash.>>108075557
>>108077238Not sure how that second link got included...
