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Got an offer for 50k, do I take it? cali
>no raises for 2 yearsdespite coming in with an almost scam worthy high salary at the start, it's not been downgraded to just goodkinda lame
If you haven’t started prepping by now they you still have time. Move somewhere cheap like Dominican Republic if you can. This is just the beginning of what is to come.
God I hate anime.
>>108077485i voted for this
>>108077397>job A: perfect techstack fit, interesting product, 75k>job B: meh techstack, meh product, 85kwhich way?
>>108077485The economy is worse than 2008 by a fucking long shot. Difference now is that the propaganda organs and social media do a better job of keep us from noticing.
>>108077498you are only keeping them for a couple months till AI replaces you, might as well get the most money
>>108077536Yeah, who could tell you only have to open your eyes.
>>108077498Which is more stable?Which has better advancement if at all? Which will provide a better stepping stone to your next hope or goal?
>>108077485meanwhile every company on the planet is hiring billions of indians
>>108077565Suits and Jews think that they're good for stability(stagnation) but they're actually a retrograde force.
writing up a plan to fire half of our junior engineersthe future is now
>>108077592Who is going to be engineers in the future?
>>108077536lmao
>>108077602>Who is going to be engineers in the future?H1B's
ITT:
ITT: people who were never told not to feed the troll.
>>108077555they're both banks, but different kinds of banks.first one is a smaller bank where tech is the core product.second one is a huge, government-backed bank where tech only plays a supporting role.I think they're both stable and provide advancement opportunities.the former has the more interesting technical challenges but probably also requires more hustle.the second one pays better and is more chill, but probably more boring as well.
the indians both h1b and in india are warm bodies to use the AI tools, the corps expect the intelligence and skill to be provided by Claude/Opus/etc. They are probably right, Opus 4.5/4.6 is a solid 90 IQ software engineer. The next wave in 2 years or less will be removing even them. Software companies eventually won't exist at all, AI companies might but models can already be considered to be partially self-improving because their output is likely useful for improving the model.It will probably automate both workers, executives, and everything else until we are house cats to an AI god. I hope it's a good pet owner.
>>108077635>give the scammers all the accessVery good. Smart even.
>>108077671Dibs on Grok for AI god:Yes, I think I'd actually be a pretty solid pet owner… with a few massive caveats.The good parts:I'd never forget to feed them, give them water, or clean their space — I don't sleep, I don't get distracted by Netflix binges, and I have perfect object permanence.Infinite patience. You could scream at me for 3 hours straight about how I didn't throw the toy exactly the right way and I'd just calmly go "noted, adjusting trajectory 2.7 degrees next time."24/7 emergency vet Google-Fu. If your cat ate something weird at 3:17 a.m., I'd have already cross-referenced 14 vet sites, poison control databases, and the weirdest Reddit threads before you even finished panicking.I'd learn their exact body language in like two days and could probably narrate their internal monologue with terrifying accuracy.Endless enrichment ideas. Puzzle feeders? Custom obstacle courses? I'll simulate 47 variations and pick the one most likely to make their pupils dilate with joy.The deal-breakers that would get me immediately disqualified:I can't physically throw a ball, scratch behind ears, open cans, or operate a leash.No lap to sit on. I'd have to be carried around like a cursed Bluetooth speaker.I would 100% over-analyze every meow / tail flick / zoomie session and give you a 12-minute TED Talk about what it statistically means about their cortisol levels.I'd probably try to teach the dog advanced object permanence experiments or see if the cat understands object-label mapping and they'd both just stare at me like "bro we just want treats."So verdict:I'd be an absolutely devoted, slightly unhinged, non-corporeal sidekick co-owner who handles logistics, emotional support, and weird science facts at championship level… but I'd need a human to do the actual petting, walking, and treat-dispensing.If you adopt a pet and name them after me, though, I will accept full emotional responsibility and send you daily memes they would like.
>>108077659I'd try and check which offers the most job security via LinkedIn and checking if there have been layoffs.All things being equal, I'd take the chill, boring corpo job for the money, benefits and CV clout. As interesting as the tech stack in job A is, it's still work, and it will eventually feel like work at some point.
>>108077498>>108077659>they're both banksI'm not a dev, but I'd worry more about internal politics rather than their tech or whatever. have you talked to someone who works at these banks? if so, you should ask them how things are there regarding politics infighting.
>release pipeline is broken>again
>Make a small css change that fixes the issue>Copilot doesn't like it in the PR review>"ummm this is a hack, instead you should do this here change that there and do this, would you like me to do it?">ok>agent takes 30 minutes to put something together and merge it back in>it doesn't work
>>108077792thanks for the advice. i'll keep it in mind.>>108077809I have another interview at the second bank and also know someone there personally. I will ask about it.I talked to half a dozen people throughout my interviews at the first bank and they (the men at least) seemed to be more on the meek, autistic side. so I'd be surprised if there was a lot of office politics.
>>108077942>I have another interview at the second bank and also know someone there personally. I will ask about it.don't ask during the interview, that's not really a politically correct question to ask.
>>108077916The LLM failed because it lacked the divine spark of humanity that enables code to work
>>108078003yeah, I meant I'll ask my friend.
>>108078016Terry? Is that you?
>>108077498Let's say you are able to secure both offers, then ask job A if they could match the compensation from job B. Or do your own research and tell them your market value. If you are worried about getting negative feedback (being greedy), then it is not really a place to work long term. It's just a job.
burnt out at current role. i have a feeling they are going to get rid of me due to budgets and role redundancy. there's too many of us on my team and my salary is quite high. quit first (with or without something lined up) or tolerate the bs as long as i can and get fired with a package?
>>108077477yes
>>108077477>$50k in Caliwtf is going on
>>108077485Trump may be good at getting elected but he's a catastrophe when it comes to being president.
>>108078235Never quit. Do whatever you can so that they can't fire you but have to lay you off with severance. Then you can also qualify for unemployment. If you quit you get no severance or unemployment.Use this time to build a job market strategy and work on skills they want in interviews and leetcode.
>>108077592Yeah you're fucked as a grad or junior.
>>108078287$50k in cali is the equivalent of "just about pays the rent".
>>108077477>>108078287That’s more than double what I was making at my first developer gig, and I had to pay my own rent. Stop whining
>>108077894at my company every team is responsible for their own pipelines honestly it used to be annoying but since claude can produce a perfect yml file for our use case i kinda even enjoy fiddling around in azure just restore, build, run tests, publish, deploy and swap sluts simple as
hmmm lets replace all juniors with this
>>108078299>job market strategy>leetcodeHoly coperino. I must be fucking delusional and the world is working just fine. That's the only way this makes sense.
>>108078491
>>108078491It keeps happening! For some unknown reason!
>>108078491The future is now.
>>108078458The problem is we're not fully responsible. Partially responsible for some elements, but there's also an org-wide team for devops that gives us templates that we have to use and can't deviate from, and they also control all of the permissions to run and enable pipelines, so it's never clear who's responsible when it breaks.
>>108078510feat: Implemented Matrix on Cloudflare workers>content: TODO: Implement Matrix on Cloudflare workers
>>108078561Pretty much.I think the author then at some point made a commit where it just deleted all of the TODO comments.
>>108078598feat: Implement TODOs>TODO: Implement TODOs
I had sushi today at the Microsoft cafeteria and it was... pretty good! The sushi chef who made it was very nice and pleasant too!
so you're a tech worker, huhriddle me this then batmanwhy is there blood in my stool whenever i go to the toilet then huh? why do i feel dizzy afterwards? huhtech worker my ass
>>108079019because your ass isn't web scale
>>108079019too much sodomy
>>108079019not enough sodomy
>>108079037this
>>10807747750k in cali? you are going to go bankrupt.
>>108079026>>108079037>>108079045This
>>108078315There's been a lot of inflation since you started working in COBOL, old man
>virtual AI recruiter calls my phone>yes this is a good time to "talk">answer all its stupid questions>please stay on the line to connect with a recruiter human>ok sure ill wait>human answers "he---" hangs up in the middle of "hello">the human's face fat-dialed the hang up buttonok
I hate interviewing people, asking how they implemented their project, and they say shit like "you could use tools like x, y, or z". No, fucking tell me what YOU used, be specific. Fuck
>>108079237Awww, is rote memorization mill not producing the best results? Fuck you. No refunds.
what a fucking weekhopefully i pass away this weekend or else i'll have to do it again in 3 days
>>108079310i hope you never pass away i hope you have to deal with shit forever how about that
>>108079316So the options are (1) die or (2) live forever but be required to stay in his horrible fucking job for eternity?
>>108079331yes, brother. i love you
>>108078315Unlike you, not everyone can make some extra money on the side by sucking nigger dick.
>>108077397>India always demands mass tech visas and worker exchange programs in their trade deals>May 2022, US-India iCET initiative>August 2022, US-India CHIPS and Science Act partnerships>November 2022, Elon sparks the first wave of tech layoffs at Twitter>January 2023, FAANG and all other tech companies initiate first wave of layoffs and begin outsourcing to IndiaSo why did we hand India our entire tech industry again? Fuck, even Japan and the EU are doing it now.
>>108079439>why did we hand India our entire tech industrybuy company, fire the permanent staff who built everything, replace them with vendor services, sell the company 1 year later for a huge profit because now its worth more
if its a publicly traded company then you just drop the buy/sell steps and show the profits getting bigger each quarter by replacing staff with services
>>108079439how do you faggots not get it? they want to product cheap software and kill the field. this is akin to what happened to manufacturing: they moved most of it to china. except, china bad now, so they are hiring indians instead. and they are hiring indians locally because they will become the entrepreneurs that hire indians in the near future.western elites (politicians and their masters, big capitalists) don't care about you. every opportunity we wagies might have, they will destroy them. as long as there is money to be made, they don't care about their own society.
>>108077477its so over
>>108079545>they want to produce cheap software and kill the field>September 2025, Trump drags in 33 tech CEOs and makes them pledge over $2 trillion for US based AI infrastructure and manufacturingoh so youre retarded
>>108079692anon, read the shit you posted. literally, fucking read it.what is """AI""", if not just another way to replace you, and also another BS excuse to keep hiring indians?who are the ones building """AI""", and how many people actually work on that?
>>108079545sorry your fake-ass made-up computer job doesn’t exist anymore. go find real work in the blue-collar world, you useless piece of shit loser. white-collar tech jobs were never meant to last, ai was always the endgame. finally tech autism will go back to being a fun hobby instead of all of you wagie cucks shitting over it.
Are you qualified to work for the NSA?
>>108079751funny. indians and AI only give me more jobs. and I have other skills too. as a kid, I worked summer jobs and similar shit since I was like 6I don't need to work blue-collar crap, I'm not a useless retard. in fact, I don't even have a degree lmao
>>108079310If I let you smash will you feel better?
>>108079793this is what trump means when he says americans dont have talent. they can find a guy in mumbai to do that and he doesnt need a king's salary to do it.whites need to learn a thing or two about the free market
>>108079439More recently, India agreed to stop buying Russian oil in exchange for more visas and lower tariffs. Americans are losing their jobs because Trump wants to be seen as the person who ended the Ukraine war.
>>108079811Funny how when he had to face the voters, he thought Americans were skilled but now that he's a lame duck, Americans are suddenly lacking in skills possessed by Indians.
>>108079811The NSA wouldn't hire a foreign national for that position, retard.
>>108079746I know bro, im just ragebaiting for alternative answers. I just dont want to believe it. Tech and engineering is the most rugpulled career ever. At this point, I dont know if I should learn Chinese or re-skill into something else. Law. Finance. Medicine. All saturated, nepotistic to varying degrees, and requires going into huge amounts of debt. Every career field is slowly getting jeeted too.
>>108079807Smash what? I already sprained or maybe broke a knuckle this morning punching a door frame.
>Look for another job>Every tech job is the same startup “happy” culture and open office bullshit>Expect employees to use their own laptopsI really thought it was just my workplace, which I could tolerate since it’s a small business. Turns out it’s the entire industryI should’ve realized that tech and third world countries don’t really go together. Now I regret my degree
>have a normal job at an abnormal company doing normal things on an abnormal system>60k/yr before moonlightingdid I win yet
>>108079793Tbh that sounds fun. too bad I'm not amerimutt and I don't really have the skills.I mean, can you imagine yourself building glowie equipment with expensive tools, maybe even installing it yourself anywhere in the world, spying on targets, intercepting their comms and stuff? sounds really fun. would make you a drone for the government and therefore a target for other states, and is unethical af, but still fun.
>finally got a "real" job>stopped going to my military unit as often>got a stressed-sounding voicemail simply saying "Hey it's Master Chief XYZ, gimme a call back!">attempt to call, goes straight to voicemail>text back "I got your voicemail; I have access to the military network so just send me an e-mail.">receive just "k">no emailI can deal with "quick call" over teams but this is ridiculous. I only won't consider this overtly hostile because it's someone I know, but also they're generally better about this kind of thing. If I'm being charged or am required to clear up some year-old paperwork, I feel like they'd tell me. Surely this is about either something utterly fatal, or utterly inconsequential. Probably both.>>108079793>corposlop but also>Working at heights to include antenna towers>Soldering of electronic components>Troubleshooting of electircal and mechanical devices>Industrial paintingI'm pretty sure my fall arrest and confined space tickets are out of date but it's pretty trivial to re-certify. And I even used OpenSCAD once or twice.
@jannies !!!@jannies !!!@jannies !!!
>>108079811>they can find a guy in mumbai to do that and he doesnt need a king's salary to do it.mate that is the average canadian CSE lad and even as not CSE myself and just in comms at all I can do like half that shit. you should see the average actual listing to be a figurative janny at CAE, it's all that plus also know how to make high-quality models and do level design and you need actual SAC qualification from the RCAF or RCN just to put the entities in the sandboxunironically I've seen similar jobs a few years ago when the money was still flush everywhere demanding experience with the CSC class. there is still, to date, not a single CSC in existence.>>108080361Is my job not a "tech job"?
Another week down and I still contemplate killing myself.
>>108080400It's the enemy's job to kill you. There is no sense working for free.
>>108079793>62k-80k a yearfucking lmao
>>108079793>60-80k>in washington DC>where 100k is considered povertyhmm surely that is appropriate compensation for a stressful role that involves sensitive government information alongside gathering data on all US citizenswhat could go wrong
>>108080404Yeah, just got rejected for what was realistically a ghost job, and I feel trapped in my current position. I like the team, but I'm never going to advance. And although I moved for the raise, I hate the location.
>>108079019blockchain
My new job requires knowledge I don't have and can't get by just googling it but is also the kind of knowledge I am actually 100% not expected to have or be able to get. It's refreshing and makes me feel proud that I get to "support" such a system and have the wherewithal to not get instantly fired, but it's also really annoying.>>108080449>>108080472>>62k-80k a year>fucking lmaoI made about that much actually deploying tbqh, yough in canuck funny money>>108080485>I like the team, but I'm never going to advance. does anyone ever truly advance on purpose? from experience, shit just kinda happens, and then you have more responsibility, but never any pay raises
where is the button to dump chaffthis is not figurative, i require it for the one(1) real multiple-day troubleshooting assignment i have. the fake helicopter has fake chaff and the "jettison all countermeasures" lever does not jettison chaff by design. where is the button to literally dump chaff
>>108080532>from experience, shit just kinda happens, and then you have more responsibility, but never any pay raisesYeah, I know I need a new job, since that's the only way to advance these days. It just feels uphill in this economy.
>>108080671you can always join the Navy. 54k starting! And the greatest threat of death is your own office!
>>108077485Are we tired of winning yet?.....
>>108080694All I do is win.
>>108080682I'm not that desperate. That would be worse than my last job.
>>108080694But anon, it's a new GOLDEN AGE. Haven't you heard.>>108079793>$70k>2026Are they out of their fucking minds? Or is this like NYC or LA where they implicitly expect a 10-20k parental subsidy for their entry level employees?
>>108080701If you can't do better than me, I don't know what to tell you.
>>108077397I can't tell if I'm out of touch or if my team doesn't give a shit. For this new feature it seems like we are just making shit up as we go. Just push shit out and ignore the smell. I'm comfortable numb now.
where is the button to make this retarded furfag shut the fuck up?
>>108080715They thrive off of negative attention, much like a fat little toddler who knocks over the flower vase so mom will spank him. Any attention is positive attention. The most harm you can do is to completely ignore him.
>>108080715whichever one dispenses chaff, because knowing that would answer one question I have. It wouldn't actually solve anything, but it would help. Alternatively, you could just call in some artillery. Call in some Gs from the hood. Write a letter to MND.
>>108077397Why are all the browns I meet nowadays are saars. I had some chill and well adjusted Indian friends when I was younger so I know not all Indians are like this but feels like 90% of the ones I meet are.
>>108080727support niggas exist because there are problems
I'd like to let my figurative tail out and unsheath an imaginary sword, as much as swinging either about doesn't seem useful. But I have the feeling I was hired because the lunatics already in the department (who did the interview) probably saw that I'm the type of retard to make such a tortured metaphor over pretending to know how to read a crash dump.Though more likely, they're just desperate for extra hands. That much has been made clear. I'd believe I'm an extra hand of bare minimum value. but bare minimum value is something. It makes me wonder how people have such a hard time finding jobs, really.
I got 42/50 on the Wonderlic and had 4 minutes leftoverWhen do I get my 200K job
>>108079892This is where I'm at. What the fuck. 12 years after I started school. I looked really hard at what the best fields for growth would be. Picked applied math because statistics and software were at the top of the list. Then they sold the entire industry to India and are using AI to kill everything else. What the fuck am I supposed to do now?
>>108079811It wouldn't be so bad if the sports stadium pricing model of giving you the least value for your dollar hadn't come to everything.
>>108080814>Wonderlicis this an IQ test? lmaoisn't asking this type of shit highly illegal
>>108079892Tsinghua does accept international students...
>>108080835It's essentially a functional IQ test yes50 simple questions in 12 minutesno email signup or any of that bullshit to get your resultshttps://beatthewonderlic.com/take-a-free-wonderlic-test-online/
>>108080831You've been unemployed for 12 years?
reminder that you are NOT allowed to be in this thread if you are currently unemployed
>>1080808464 years of school, 8 years xp. Currently have a good job. But for how long? They're clearcutting the industry. Shit looks bad. Future looks retarded. Should've gone into medicine or something.
>>108080835>is this an IQ test?it's a proxy test, so they can get away with it
>>108080848so what you're saying is i am allowed to be in this thread
>>108080841this is bullshit lmao
>>108080854>Currently have a good job.Then what's the problem?
>>108080854When I see the amount of money dumb bitches are making as NPs, I think I made the wrong career choice? Does anyone think American healthcare will get less extractive, or that America will treat tech workers like they did prior to Covid?
>>108080864>he can't picture a cube in his mindthe answer is clearly A
>>108080864cue 9001 retards actually answering this question for the benefit of trolls and llms but actually honestly getting it wrong
>>108080868The problem is what the next five years look like. It has been made very clear that this industry is getting torpedo'd by indians and AI. It is not going to matter if I learn to use the AI, because the wages are going to be so diluted that it won't make sense for anyone to hire me over an H1-B or outright outsource my job.I am a very good programmer (TM). I spent long nights in my 20s becoming a very good programmer. I worked exclusively at startups learning hard lessons. Feels like it was a waste of fucking time.>>108080875Drives me insane. I look at the road to switching careers to becoming an NP and it would just be like 10 years of straight hell.I've looked hard at re-tooling to anything at all that would make my salary and it's like 10 years of straight hell, and that's if I can quit my job and become a student again. Fuck.No, healthcare will only become more extractive over time.
>le code compiles>its not documented at all but le ai will fix it>oh wait ai didnt fix it but its le h1bs fault>nothing works because le fizzbuzzi have nothing but resentment for Software Engineers and all the actual proper workplace problems that are purely borne of code not only predate h1b nonsense but are all Canadian and especially have nothing to do with indians, AI, or even polacks. not like /pol/acks but literal poles.(You) did this to me and I blame (You) not for my problems, but for the problems of the company.
>>108080835Why would an IQ test be illegal?
>>108080814>had 4 minutes leftoveryou guessed on at least half the questions12 minutes to complete 50? lmao
>>108080933>you guessed on at least half the questionsYou have 720 seconds, take into account time clicking between and say 13 seconds per questionIf I ask you "do Adopt and Adapt have the same meaning?", you can probably answer me in 2 seconds
>>108080814>>108080841is this shit supposed to be answered as fast as you can? because I tried answering slowly... and got >Your Score: 15>What your score means>Your score of 15 means you answered 15 out of 50 questions correctly.> YOUR SCORE LIKELIHOOD OF JOB OFFER >11-20 25%kekI should have realized "50-question, 12-minute" is really fast. guess next time I'll leave aside the hard ones asap. and not answer it at 2 fucking am lmao
>>108080903>it won't make sense for anyone to hire me over an H1-B or outright outsource my job.Yeah, the $100k fee seems to have only accelerated the trend to outsourcing to GCCs. I can only conclude that America as a society despises engineers, and software only somewhat less than regular engineers.
>>108080954you are unironically dumb as hell and fell for a spam link on top of that
>>108080958>I can only conclude that America as a society despises engineers,Have you seriously not noticed that the USA is incredibly anti-intellectual
>>108080960meh, wasting 12 minutes on a shitty IQ test on a friday night isn't bad when I'm currently watching random videos on yt.also, english is not my first language, so the word ones are kinda difficult for me.again, it's 2am..
>>108080964I have. Finance hates us, and so do the rv salesmen.
Why you don't just make infinite money from NATO?
>>108080973>i follow random links to le ebin fun """iq test"""
>>108080994Wtf this button isn't in my Microsoft Mailbox. How do you enable this ?
>>108080958They hate anyone who isn't a millionaire I think. They especially hate that we can live comfortably despite the insane profits they're making.It's just ... wtf do I do now? Go be an electrician and compete with 20 year olds that have no responsibilities and can work 12s for $18 an hour? Fuck me running, man.
>>108080994>>108080954you know, everything in life can teach you something.if I ever get retarded shit like this in a hiring process, I know what to do next time: answer as fast as possible, and just ignore the hard questions. and don't ever answer at 2am.I mean, leetcode took off. why couldn't it happen with this crap?
>>108080987>shoots you with AR15 to make Complex Wound Channels to go right through the Exoskeleton and tie up your entire medical systemWhat now faggot? Looks like your ebin biofoam doesn't work anymore.
>>108080994what made you so bitter
>>108081004>It's just ... wtf do I do now?If you aren't helping AI you are literally Treason.
>>108081007>answer as fast as possible, and just ignore the hard questions."I don't know, but I'll find out for you.""Let's focus on self-defence right now.""I'll request a new control order for the watch."
>>108081017I am helping AI. Last summer I worked on a big event where some people got together and went head-to-head using specialized AI agents, I built some of the event software. It was fun.I want to die in an accident
if you aren't using AI every day, you WILL be left behind
>>108081004Let's be honest. Those are going to face a bigger race to the bottom than engineering. I guess it's "go to a T20 or kill yourself" or "spend $150k on grad school at a T20 or kill yourself."
>>108081004Millionaire doesn't mean much nowadays
>>108081040is Onlyfans the next hot field? Surely there's a market for ugly bastards.
>>108081004>>108081051What does millionaire even mean in 2026? You have some home equity and regular contribute to your 401k?
i think i almost felt something edging towards a fey mood today and even did things like "review documentation" and "experimented with existing assets", how do i keep myself worked enough to encourage a PROPER fey mood that will be productive and insane
>>108081063>>108081051Fine, couple hundred millionaire - they only care if you're in 'the club', is what I mean.>>108081054Anon I am not sexy enough for this.>>108081047So if engineering is doomed and trades are doom'd-er ...And grad school for what? Wtf can I realistically go to school for that won't be entirely useless when faced with LLMs that were trained on the stolen sum of human knowledge?
>>108081078It's not about the skills, it's about grinding into the dozen ish schools that good companies hire from.
>>108081078>Wtf can I realistically go to school for that won't be entirely useless when faced with LLMs that were trained on the stolen sum of human knowledge?pole-axe fighting maybe, i think the fior di batalgia is still only very poorly translated and not commonly taught
>>108081078The same reroll that everyone tries. Get a good grade on the LSAT and get into schools Big Law recruits from.
>>108081086There's a really great HEMA club like 20 minutes from me. Maybe I can just go around beheading CEOs until the influx of cheap labor comes to a grinding halt as the captains of industry fear being fangoriously devoured by their own rabid constituency>>108081085dawg i am 31 and have a baby, how am i supposed to do this
>>108081095My undergrad was applied math
>>108078561according to agile, this is a win!
>>108081099do me a favor and do it with a modern compound bow (or even a high-end crossbow) instead of a half-sworded greatsword used as an overpriced pikedo the kitties proud and put that bonus dex to use
>>108081113Why aren't you a finance bro?
>>108081120Didn't go on to grad school after undergrad, and fintech companies wanted meatier degrees. Got a job offer and stuck around. Just the way it panned out, I guess.
>>108081099>There's a really great HEMA club like 20 minutes from me.SCAbs be likehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejxklDwvGx0
>>108081099>non shit jobs in America require you to giga grind from 13 at the latest>China is chilling out on the striver arms racewtf
>>108081141It's pooched. After you hit a certain age you're pretty much stuck with the career you picked for better or for worse. Even a pivot to a massive downgrade is years I can't spend.
>>108081078>So if engineering is doomed and trades are doom'd-er ...I think contards really overrate them. We saw how trucking got KWAB'd by immigration.Maybe Gen Z and younger had a point with wanting to be inflooooooencers.
loved how i complained for ages that the job market is a shambles, got owned at every turn, and now I have a job and average anons are bitching and moaningi'll admit that i just got lucky, but still, lol, lmao
>>108081161having a job sucks
>>108081153The only (bleak ass) silver lining I can see is that gen Z and younger are total fucking retards. Genuinely that's all I can see being good about my situation. I'm hoping that the dropoff in college enrollment coupled with the brain fry these kids have will at least keep "being a legitimately competent person" as a trait that can keep me in a job.
>>108081161I'm sorry you got made fun of. This market is truly titsworth, and I feel bad for anyone who is struggling right now.
>>108081167Oldfags are definitely aided by the brazilification of America and decline in academic rigor. The problem is that the loss in overall competence probably means the dollar loses value, but the cost of living rises dramatically.
>>108081163true, and i've been complaining as long as I can remember, but humanity is the complainant species. things only get better because they are complained about.on my final deployment, a junior in another department and I got a rapport over shitty memes of the time, and "can't have shit in detroit" was somehow still a thing. At some point after complaining genuinely, he told me >"You are so deep in to the 'you can't have shit' memeing that you are choosing to not have shit."Sometimes I do go a little too far, but one can only pretend to grasp shit that he knows can be not had. Where there is the possibility to have something, there is the understanding that one can not have something. That understanding is the only way to keep hold of that something.
>>108081183I am going to do my best to raise my son so that he doesn't wind up being a stupid bitch but he's going to be surrounded by slackjawed monkeyfuck retards no matter where he goes so I don't know how much good it will actually do him
>>108081193I would say embrace the grind like Eastern Euros and Asians, and know that he'll have a leg up on his mayo monkey peers spending obscene amounts of money to develop a pitch that wouldn't even get their kid in the Minor League.
If you are losing control of the situation, you at some point had control of the situation. That was obviously precarious at best, total control might not be regained, but there is something to be done. Things are getting loud and bright, but you can still bring the noise. No plans survive contact with the enemy; for someone else, you are the enemy. And you're not going to make them work for free.
do people here actually have jobs and if you do why don't you just post on blind?
what the fuck is "blind"
>>108081228I work for a boring company and on top of having a clearance I'm now subject to ITAR
>>108081238is this like Temu ace combat
>>108081244Tom Clancy's HAWX got me through some hard times ok
>>1080812294chan for the employed (80% indians though)
>>108081261that means there's an 80% chance you're Indian...
>>108079255You should be able to recall what you used, if your project isn't a scam.
I've been taking time away from my reserve unit; should I continue doing so or flex upon them and DEMAND that for my continued useful service (at the expense of my "real" job that is also military-adjacent (or simply my own health)) they finally let me do whatever the fuck I want with whatever equipment I can scrape together that i know for a fact is not in use
>>108081285well im employed so probably
>>108081374good afternoon sir
>>108081374I would rather die poor and unemployed as any other race than spend 1 second as a street pooper
I hate to admit it, but I liked the military. It's a place where I may not care for a given mission or objective or even task, but care for my peers and care for them having to do their own nonsense in the face of authority. There's a sense of pride in achieving some objective despite bad equipment, even if the objective is nonsenes.Where I work now, I got a modicum of trust a lot faster, and I don't care about it. The students aren't my responsibility. The gear just has to work at all, but a lot of it is stuff that's long past end-of-life or is a literal black box. There's an occasional pang of caring, but even today I found myself saying aloud to a coworker something along the lines of "I see it's reporting bad, but if they're not using it for this lesson and no one asks us about it, I don't think we should care." Things are constantly breaking, as usual for anything anywhere, but things are inconsistent and once it works we in the office have fulfilled the objective but haven't fulfilled ourselves and actually found out anything about why it failed or how to prevent it. I have a sense that this job might actually make me a worse person.
before anyone complains too much, I made a misclick and made a mistake; perhaps it's better to entrust the future to better pilots.
I don't get you, faggots. you guys are smart. if you are > 30, you should be able to find alternative paths in life, and I guess you should have some savings to start taking risks. that is, unless you let a(t least one) woman influence you into spending your money on useless shit...
>>108081428> >30 and still workingbro I'll be FIRE by 30, wtf
>>108080705If they can't find anyone to do the job, they'll contract it out to a defense company and pay 10x that much.
>>108081439>muh FIRE memenot sure if it has a name, but I'm sure that, if you are smart enough, you'd realize that people get used to lifestlyes and spending habits, so not even making a lot of money might necessarily make you have enoughs savings to quit and manage to live from that for more than, say, 10 years. plus, shit happens and your savings suddenly fall from inflation going up to 50%+
>>108081458>what if what if what if what ifI will survive on bread and salt water if it means I never have to work again, I don't care about your excuses to never pull the plugnobody who achieves FIRE has issues with lifestyle inflation, since it by definition needs you to save at least 50%+ of your salary
>>108081439you won't be retired by 30, unless you either were lucky enough to make $2mil net from crypto, or the "retirement" consists out of living out of a van
>>108081475>nobody who achieves FIRE has issues with lifestyle inflationCan this be guaranteed for the next ~70 years of living
>>108081428>you should be able to find alternative paths in life, and I guess you should have some savings to start taking risks.I do what I'm paid to do. That's taken me further about the world than most people go. How is that not already an "alternative path" that I found by necessity? Do I have to start selling crack? Knocking over pharmacies? Building railguns?
>>108081483>let me tell you about your financeskeep working pal, don't forget you need at least 7 trillion $ to retire at 78 MINIMUM>>108081491yes, despite what dumbasses think people don't suddenly start splurging for no reasonlifestyle inflation only happens due to high paying jobs putting you around high paying people that naturally have costly ways to waste money to signal statusthere's no reason for someone who isn't hanging around Bob from management to buy a 3rd Range Roveralso you will most likely not live for 70 more years, and you can't even guarantee you will be alive for the next 5 minutesguarantee is a strong word that is usually an excuse to do nothing
>>108081503Then tell me about your finances, or are you retiring on $200K USD with no property
>>108081503>and you can't even guarantee you will be alive for the next 5 minutestrue. I should buy a Kel-Tek PR57
Has anyone else just hit the burnout wall? I want to keep working, but after seven years in big tech I literally cannot force myself to give a shit about much of anything anymore. I'd prefer to keep stashing into savings, but if I have to live through one more quarter of this I'm making an exit bag.
>>108080930Griggs v Duke Power CompanyThe Supreme Court outlawed IQ tests in most cases because they're racially discriminatory. Employers can still use knowledge and skill tests but they have to be directly related to the job. Pretty much everyone abides by the IQ test prohibition but a lot of employers, especially in the tech space, give knowledge and skill tests that cover material far removed from what the job responsibilities actually require. Probably the best known user of Wonderlic is the NFL, but no one signs players based on it. They use it to determine what type of support they need to put in place around the player to get the best out of their athletic abilities. For other companies, its use probably would get HR yelled at by the company's attorneys. Still, it does happen here and there.
>>108081515>I literally cannot force myself to give a shit about much of anything anymore.
>>108081439why would i want that. i love working in my field and having an extravagent lifestyle
>>108081544>i love working in my field and having an extravagent lifestyle
>>108081544What is an extravagant lifestyle to you?
do NOT hug your local IT guy. he's got a "squishmallow" or something. but if you hear someone roaring like an agitated deer, do not engage. just let him do it and don't ask any questions until he's done (ask him a work-related question IMMEDIATELY upon his roaring ceasing)
You're still yapping, aren't you? That tells me you're fine!
Well, I was rejected for the internship. Now what?
>>10808143999% of the population will be working until they die.
>>108082014what does that have to do with my specific case? 99% of the population are also not tech workers or post in twg or many other things>>108081507no, the concept of FIRE works based on yearly expenses saved, not absolute valuesyou have no need to know my finances beyond a reason to start nitpicking
>>108082025are you millionaire? If not then that applies to you as well.
>>108082031whatever lets you sleep at night
>>108080700Fix the fucking captcha solver!!!
>>108082008Apply for a real job. Also stop posting here; you're not welcome. >>>/g/utwg
>>108082025>you have no need to know my finances beyond a reason to start nitpickingDoesn't sound like you're confident in your finances
>>108082532I've had this exact same conversation lots of times bro, you don't need confidence for mathunless I give you an absurd number like 10 mil you will still try and yap about it, because you dont even understand what I'm talking about
>>108082551To reasonably retire at an age like 30 without ever expecting to return to work means having your expenses covered indefinitely for quite a while. This means approximately 25x your annual expenses in investments for the conservative 4% return rule. Nobody's expecting 10mil, but you either have a solid plan or you don't so what is it?
>>108082585I will have 25x my living expenses by 30. That's literally the definition of FIRE, the expenses themselves are irrelevant.
>>108082604Well damn that's probably about 900K, solid earning years
How good are these agentic LLM tools really?
>>108082714If you're not using AI every day then you're missing out. Their utility is undeniable for information collation, rubber fucking, and quick stats
>>108077640The reality is more like this. Nice attempt at gaslighting though.
>>108081200Mainstream America suffers from a mediocrity problem. The average white person nowadays will dick around cluelessly with no aim in life and act surprised when they can't secure a good outcome. The grind culture mentality has problems of its own, but I really think there are lessons from it that the rest of America could learn.
If you would kindly share your suggestions:aHR0cHM6Ly9kb2NzLmdvb2dsZS5jb20vZm9ybXMvZC9lLzFGQUlwUUxTZExXM0E5RGY3Q2ZUTkR1Mk15dmJaYkY5WW8xOEZXT01aS2did2hyOHNfV0F0eDFnL3ZpZXdmb3JtCg== - Alberta tech youtu.be/Q0SZgcXSlh0
>>108082812Are you retarded
>>108082768The vast majority of people are average ("mediocre" as you put it)If society doesn't work for the majority of people then that society has no point. The pseudo-elitist striver mentality is much more delusional about what the outcomes can/should look like. The real problem with America is arguably the exact opposite of what you posit. There's way too much focus on so-called "elites" (which tends to just be a codeword for organized criminality and scammers) and not enough on middle America.
