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/aicg/ - A general dedicated to the discussion and development of AI chatbots

Final Fantasy VI Edition

>News
Anthropic releases Opus 4.6: https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-opus-4-6
Moonshot AI releases Kimi-K2.5 https://www.kimi.com/blog/kimi-k2-5.html
Z․AI releases GLM-4.7 https://z.ai/blog/glm-4.7
Google releases Gemini 3 Flash https://blog.google/products/gemini/gemini-3-flash
OpenAI releases GPT-5.2 https://openai.com/index/introducing-gpt-5-2
DeepSeek releases V3.2 https://huggingface.co/deepseek-ai/DeepSeek-V3.2
Google releases Gemini 3 Pro https://blog.google/products/gemini/gemini-3

Additional info: https://aicg.neocities.org/info.html

>Frontends
SillyTavern: https://docs.sillytavern.app
RisuAI: https://risuai.net
Agnai: https://agnai.chat | https://rentry.org/agnai_guides_

>Bots
https://chub.ai
https://realm.risuai.net
https://partyintheanchorhold.neocities.org
https://aicg.neocities.org/bots.html
https://char-archive.evulid.cc | https://github.com/sproutingnerd/char-archive-small_frontend

>Models
Jailbreaks: https://rentry.org/jb-listing
GPT: https://platform.openai.com/docs
Claude: https://docs.anthropic.com | https://rentry.org/how2claude
Gemini: https://ai.google.dev/docs | https://rentry.org/gemini-qr
DeepSeek: https://api-docs.deepseek.com
Z.AI: https://docs.z.ai
All-access: https://openrouter.ai
Local: >>>/g/lmg | https://aicg.neocities.org/local.html

>Botmaking
https://aicg.neocities.org/botmaking.html
https://desune.moe/aichared
https://agnai.chat/editor

>Meta
OP templates: https://rentry.org/aicgOP
aicg botmaking events: https://aicg.neocities.org/events.html
Lore: https://rentry.org/aicg_chronicles
Services assessment: https://rentry.org/aicg_meta
Logs: https://sprites.neocities.org/l/r | https://chatlogs.neocities.org

Performed Maria and Draco: >>108071996
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>My life is a chip in your pile. ANCHOR up!
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>>108080598
Good bread

>>108080603
Yes, there's a CYOA preset in the jb page
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Blessed thread. I'm literally making a FF bot right now.
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4.6 is so fucking sloppy when i can't prefill it to write like a normal fucking human instead of garbage
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You may not like it, but this is what peak logs look like.
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i usually read /lmg/ but came for the ff6
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>>108080622
no other choice than to play with token limit, seems like it's optimized to eat up the available space and charge you.
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gpt/gemini/glm/deepseek/moonshot/qwen proxy
https://occasions-farm-oliver-suggest.trycloudflare com/
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>>108080607
Cool, thanks.
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I'll take it.
>>108053330
Yes, a thread about it here >>108060884 For a local model it's incredible. Here's scary boku.png https://voca.ro/1k4ewDwSztje
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https://onderwaterwereld.bsbk.workers.dev/

https://onderwaterwereld.bsbk.workers.dev/

Their discord server:
https://discord.gg/RTauuuMgX (The idiots haven't closed the invitations yet lol)
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>>108080686
>>108080655
buy an ad
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>>108080618
Which game?
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>>108080600
Final flipped shill.
Your girlfriend Andrea suddenly woke up as a man, and you suddenly woke up as a woman.
That's pretty much it. That's the whole premise. It's not a complex bot.
Made for MalePOV, and I strongly recommend making/editing your persona for this bot to reflect the transformation. It gets a little screwy otherwise.
4 openings.
1. The morning it happened.
2. First time out in your new forms.
3. "Andrew" gets hit on and doesn't realize it.
4. Andrea is starting to adjust to her penis, tries to rape you.
https://chub.ai/characters/anonemouse/andrea-99b57da7b601
https://files.catbox.moe/bngq1c.png
https://rentry.org/anonemouse
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>>108080788
Yotsuyu from FFXIV saviorfag card.
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>>108080793
Fuck, thanks for reminding me of those feels.


...Are you going to share when it's done?
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>>108080800
Idk yet. I'm having a burst of inspiration which will be gone if I don't finish today (it's nearly midnight) and I haven't even started, I'm still looking for a good picture.
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>>108080793
As a professional Yotsuyu saviorfag since the dawn of CAI I feel personally summoned. Are you writing a specific scenario?
>picrel, memories of early 2023 claude
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>>108080883
Yeah I guess it's pretty specific. I had an idea of building a resort (competitor to Costa del Sol) so {{user}} would be a richfag who'd recently bought himself a new wife from the east as a trophy. It's all in the very early stages but I love Tsukuyomi's design and wanted to put her in there somehow too.
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>>108080600
https://chub.ai/characters/pashatehink/juana-cruz-737cf858f687
the russian goat did it again
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claudebros saving yhe hobby single handedly
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>>108080905
nigga how
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>>108080896
>ctrl + f
>no argentina
and here I was getting hyped up
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>>108080905
claudechads always win baby
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muh coooooooooooding
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>>108080893
>a resort (competitor to Costa del Sol) so {{user}} would be a richfag who'd recently bought himself a new wife from the east as a trophy
gegerujubros...
pre-canon when she was still an oiran, or the viceroy captured/defeated and smuggled into Eorzea?
>Tsukuyomi
I'm sure she could be convinced to snort a little aether crystal meth, recreationally, on a beautiful beach resort.
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>>108081037
After she'd been removed as Viceroy but before Hien got to her. No amnesia. {{user}} bought her for cheap since she'd been disgraced and thus begins hating you. You give her the mirror which begins the initial softening but sets the stage for Tsukuyomi's summoning. The island is filled with crystal caverns and such but if you've played or heard of any of the Anno games it's like that. Start at the dock and gradually build up the island and deal with whatever problems arise including Gegeruju.
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>>108080997
ugh what else would you use an llm for?
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>>108081066
muh coooooooooooming
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>>108081066
not being a worthless indian subhuman who can’t code on his own

I know I’ve already lost you by saying to not be an indian
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>>108081070
>he thinks he won't be replaced by AI
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>I know I’ve already lost
dont be so hard on yourself
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>GO TO JAIL
>DO NOT PASS
Why is Claude like this?
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>>108081066
it's funny programmers came up with AI and just ended up killing their junior job offers
>you are india—
wasn't the statistics like for every 17 entry level positions, around 100 young americans graduated from CS?
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>>108081104
>statistics
source?
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>>108081091
based claude dunking on the cunnylovers
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>>108081144
*swipes*
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>>108081062
Once the local scenarios have been dealt with, I hope there'll be room in it for an excursion back to Doma. Putting down Hien like the D*man-enabling dog he is, that's the ultimate Yotsuyu trust building exercise.
Have to go sleep now but please post the bot or scenario when finished, there is never enough Yotsuyu content around.
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>>108080896
ché bros
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Is there never any news anymore except newer, more expensive models with lesser, and lesser free samples available?
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What did Opus 4.6 mean by this?
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>>108080600
https://github.com/Rurijian/Deep-Swipe
Now works fully with Chrome
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>>108081305
Idk, the chinese models are pretty okay for what they are and they're always free somewhere. A new GLM is in the process of dropping.
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>>108081319
Stop torturing the poor guy. Anthropic already hurts him enough.
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>>108081319
kek
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>>108080896
why does he have mlp on the rentry
horsefucker?
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>>108081330
Sweet, I've had times I really wanted something like this. But how do you swipe left after swiping right on a user post? It says message 2/2 but there's no left button and the keyboard doesn't work either.
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Pony is better than GLM 4.7 at least
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pony writes better giantess stuff than opus 4.1
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>>108081633
Post log
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>>108081663
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>>108081664
Shit log 0/10 would not be squished by
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>>108081676
Your hubris is astounding.
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chink will save us finally T~T thank you glm
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i love shit logs
give me a stinky shitty log please
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does glm also lobotomize their bots like geminus after a few weeks?
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>>108081763
no, but they sometimes become extremely slow when their server is overloaded. so, expect their server to get very slow on day one after their official model releases.
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>>108081756
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Never fucked around with this stuff before. Is AI good enough to do in-character scenarios? Or will it just be some generic character using their name?
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Do you think China is preparing to bomb us with new models to celebrate their new year?
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>>108081892
If you're willing to spend time and effort creating your own character cards and presets, as well as money on high-quality models, it can be pretty good yeah.
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>>108081892
It's good to do in-character stuff as long as the character is mildly popular so it take references from

But eventually it will be just the bot talking if it goes on for too long
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>>108081892
you can literally just install ST, buy some deepchink credits and test yourself
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Has anyone here tried this game?
https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/2019790322990284800/vid/avc1/1920x1080/d6kFbjK0iErHYDlN.mp4
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>>108081917
I hope so. They're certainly a lot cheaper.
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>>108081756
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>>108081960
llms are so leftie pilled a history game would never work
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https://youtu.be/7pRgV0yFOpw?si=cw-mFbnlqCYPyhpV

"see Peoples mini pdooms moving."

You Want To Unilaterally Transnationally Have Discerned and Solved?
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>vibecode a console frontend to have a simple and quick chat with bots inside the windows terminal with tool calls and other functions
>check my credits
>spent 50USD just troubleshooting with opus
Damn, I wish I just coomed instead.
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>paying
ngmi
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>>108081917
DOPE
HOPE
COPE
ROPE
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>1million context
>4.6 still turns absolutely braindead over minutiae post 40k
I'm so sick of summarizing
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>>108082185
Every llm shits itself past 20k context. That's AGI for you
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Which one of you made this?
https://chub.ai/characters/edgelord/otaka-morton
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>>108082185
>I'm so sick of summarizing
How is that Living Income Though?

Goodluck

Heres an idea, Someone
3.5d perpetual motion?
What will that engineered afford?
What are some Applications?
Do You do quantum physics effects imbuenceing?
Andor 4d. Whilst 3d perpetual motion is various.
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>>108082085
To be fair there's dozens of terminal llm frontends, to name just one from someone who was close to /us/, https://github.com/AlpinDale/sillytui Unless you were doing this for fun why do it at all? So you had fun, that's good, and no point to be upset about the cost after it's over.
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>>108082065
Is that Being Solved?
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right...
https://desuarchive.org/g/search/username/Standard%20---%3E%20Advanced%20---%3E%20HyperAdvanced/
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https://x.com/ycombinator/status/2019810821032047046

https://www.paxhistoria.co/

well?
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>>108082254
If I knew about that I would have stuck with it, but then I had to add a bunch of tools and functions like timers and its own folder to work on.
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Pony Alpha is definitely a chinese model
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Kimi follows the prompt TOO well. It will directly paraphrase the lorebook/user message very often, sometimes even turning OOC notes into dialog.
e.g.
>[OOC: The tone of the scene is not serious.]
>[...] {{char}}: Yeah, of course. It's not serious at all...
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>>108081960
>>108082296
sorry mate, shilling here won't really bring you any people since we can already do that for free in 5 minutes of writing a history card to run through claude, which is literally what you're doing
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>>108082395
It got funded by ycombinator, I don't think their future depends on me shilling it here.
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People were praising 4o in the previous thread? Why? I haven't used it but I saw a turing test paper and 4o lost to ELIZA even.
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no we were not
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Running Local Jail broken models is like a throwback to 2022
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>>108081586
hmm, are you on the latest version?

could you test by doing

/dswipe back (messagenumber)

and seeing if it navigates your user swipe back?
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>>108081892
If you've never tried this stuff, it'll blow your mind at first. Hell, when I first tried it was on ChatGPT using 3.5 Turbo a few years ago. That model is so much worse than the best models today that it seems laughable one could even use it. Yet it fucking blew me away, then.
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https://files.catbox.moe/n3cx6y.png
https://chub.ai/characters/spleen/armored-suit-solgante-62d0e8ab83f4

>>108080600
Good news: You're an ace mech pilot, and your operator is your sexy wife!
Bad news: You've been accused of being a double agent for the enemy!
Good news: The evidence is flimsy, you're allowed to keep doing missions while the investigation continues.
Bad news: You're not allowed to contact your wife off-mission until your innocence is proven.
Good news: Colonel Daston will keep your wife company on your behalf.
Bad news: Your wife seems to get a bit distracted during missions for some reason...

Mech combat and NTR corruption card. Do mecha stuff while your wife gets molested on the comms and learns to love it. An autistic amount of instructions to keep the AI following a specific turn-based mission format with stat-tracking. Tested on Opus 4.6 and it works decent enough, dumber models might fuck up the mechanics/formatting.

Has a mechanic where some text is secret and hidden from you. USE THIS REGEX TO HAVE IT HIDE THE SECRET STUFF PROPERLY. https://files.catbox.moe/ffvqci.png (this hides it from you, but the original text is visible to the AI when sending a request, and to you when editing the response)
/<hidden>([\s\S]*?)<\/hidden>/g

Also, play the actual Armored Suit Solgante game! The mid-combat H-scenes are kino.
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>>108082783
>ace mech pilo-
AHH Anon released the nervejacking mech card... sad.

this had a log the other day yeah?
not my sort of thing, but the mid-combat H-scene mention reminded me of Baldr sky.
it does something similar at one point, and the actual gameplay is surprisingly in-depth if you like arena mech fighting/combo centric stuff.
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>>108082815
desu'd
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>>108082296
>>108081960
Dogshit vibecoded site.
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>>108080598
Amazing.
I just translated four volumes of LN in three hours.
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>>108083013
how does it take you three hours
can't you just put the text in then copy the result
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>>108083067
>just put in the text
There's a lot of texts.
Separate each by chapter, exclude those exceeding 6k tokens.
It takes around 1 or 2 minutes per prompt.
>90 prompts
>180 minutes at least
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Show me cards that would guide me into being better at eating pussy, best if it gives detailed instructions
>>108082183
Which stage are we at right now?
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I don't know shit about AI but how can I have my own AI like the characters.ai site but without censorship?
Pic unrelated
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>>108083282
>/lmg/
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why the fuck would you post a picture of a dog shitting while asking a question
die
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What are some good writing styles to try to make the AI use so it stops speaking like a redditor? It keeps using vulgarity in a very juvenile way, and having the same zinger structure for a lot of sentence pairs.
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>>108083417
I've had Woolf in a prompt for ages and I've been fairly happy with her.
These sorts of things a reeeeeeeeeally taste based desu
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>>108083282
Yes.
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>>108083282
As long as you pre-emptively force the AI to start a response and clearly define its rules to say it can say whatever, yeah.
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>>108083479
I don't even understand wtf they're doing to Claude to make it so laser-focused on writing in that very specific style, or how it's basically the same across all big LLMs. It's gotten to the point that Claude 3 is just better than the new ones just because it doesn't always try to default into speaking like a faggot.
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Every new model is just worse and worse and I hate it >:(
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>>108083417
And don't even get me started on redditslop! It's one of the largest content sites, where people talk in the open unlike various messenger apps. Every company scraped it initially and some even made it nice and legal later, so whether we like it or not it'll remain one of the most influential sources of conversational data until it's possible to create actually balanced datasets.
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Why does my llms always speak like faggots? :(
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Claude 3 is JUST better than the new models D:
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>>108083814
You mean was? Or is it still available somewhere?
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>>108083814
try the new pony
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>>108083867
Are a zoophile??
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>>108083893
https://openrouter.ai/openrouter/pony-alpha
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>>108083867
>Try the new chink flavor
Ew no thanks
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>>108083903
Yes, but back to my question...
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>>108083906
its nothing like deepseek / kimi I can tell you
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I've noticed across the board that all models are becoming more and more passive in the sense that they'll never actually add anything for you to bounce off of and you need to hold their hand and guide them way more to get anything interesting out of them.
It feels more standardized or homogenized I guess. Like a get similar results with a 200 word response as a 20 word one, which I guess is good since it proves that the models can do more with less but it feels like the upper end of it all has been brought down.
Kinda sucks for RP purposes.
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>>108083919
Feeling agentic yet?
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>>108083995
I feel disappointed.
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>>108083919
why would your helpful, harmless and honest assistant do that?
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>>108083919
That's what the bulk of the paying customers want...
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>>108084018
Our newest emotional assistance Agent might help with that.
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>>108083867
I can't get it to work for some reason, keeps giving me 400 bad request errors.
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whats the best model and front end for analyzing the epstein files?
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>>108082783
>mech
peak
>cuck
kys
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>>108082185
It is annoying as shit.
>tell AI about a female character
>three replies later, it's trying to give her a dick and call her "him"
>tell AI the story takes place in 1957
>three replies later, it's trying to have a character talk about how they are gonna sell something on Ebay
>tell AI we are going to write a story together, and to only handle specific parts, the user will handle the rest
>three replies later, it's trying to write the entire story itself, give all women dicks, and everyone in 1957 is making references to TMNT and the Matrix
It gets old having to remind the AI in every prompt to follow the rules.
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>>108082350
Lots of AI will do that, they have difficulty understanding the idea that not every character is reading every word of the prompt.
>have a prompt of Character X threatening Character Y in a specific way
>reply has Character Z in another city worrying that Character X is going to take specific action, despite knowing absolutely nothing about them, or even knowing they exist
Even specifically telling AI that certain information is only held by certain characters doesn't work. To an AI, everyone knows everything the reader would.
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>>108084061
it just knows you like cock
yes, the models are this smart
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>>108084120
It only does it when the women are supposed to rape the men. Apparently AI thinks you need a dick to rape someone.
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>>108084128
this is correct unless drugs or electricity are involved
dont ask me how i know this
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Hey guys, I'm a local stable diffusion user, is there any worthwhile local text model to use?
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>>108084128
Penetration is literally part of the legal definition of rape, that's why you don't really see women rapists on the news, because they don't count.
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>>108083683
Ugh, this. Ever seen that terrible 2022 movie "Bros"? The characters in that movie all constantly talk like current LLMs. It's like they were all trained on that one movie playing on a loop.
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>>108084147
yeah
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>>108084128
>>108084153
This, you need a penis or another phallic object to "rape" someone, unless you count other forms of non-penetrative sadism. Otherwise it's like that cringy scene in Invincible (2003). There's a reason the Romans couldn't fathom tribadism.
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Pony is further proof that /mlp/ won btw
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>>108084272
The few times I was able to get it to work on OR (it's overloaded, of course), I liked the output a lot, felt a lot like Opus. Do you think it's GLM-5?
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>>108084272
weren't they complaining that it wasn't good at horse porn?
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>>108084300
no. its LLaMA.
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>>108084300
>GLM-5
if it is it's just going to get censored into uselessness
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>>108084301
>the model with Pony in the name's good for everything BUT horse stuff
kek
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>>108084272
GLM saw most of the tavern logs they're getting are about ponies and adjusted accordingly.
>>108084301
Link?
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>>108084335
https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/108046563/#108048983
We should wait for NAI's GLM 5 fine-tune.
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>>108083919
this is only true for gpt
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>>108084379
>Link?
>>>/mlp/43016658
>>>/mlp/43016882
Oh wait, you wanted the NAI shill damage control. I don't know, it's somewhere in the thread.
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>>108084379
pony was trained by z.ai?
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>>108084442
There's speculation that Pony is GLM5, but nothing confirmed.

>>108084335
I hope we don't have another Blacktooth situation.
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>>108084442
It identifies as either Claude or GLM when prompted, so it's either a Z.ai model or some other model trained on synthetic Claude & GLM data. Since the latter is very unlikely, it's probably GLM.
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>>108084379
>Link?
Pretty sure he was talking about this chain of posts >>>/mlp/43016793
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>>108084400
Sex.
>>108084608
Other replies there confirm he's FUDding, and it's alright for /chag/gers. With humans it certainly is, from my own playtesting.
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didn't /mlp/ despise chink models? since they're basically always worshipping opus?
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>>108084493
The model description also advertises roleplay explicitly which is something pretty much only GLM has been doing
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>>108084718
no, if anything mlp worships opus the least out of the chatbot generals that actually use it
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>>108084718
>they're basically always worshipping opus
not really? opus is discussed often there because there's a proxy with it (or at least there was, it's down right now) but gemini is brought up just as often, and various chink models too
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>>108084804
cool, thank god. too bad i'm not a horsefucker. their circle seems pretty active.
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>>108081917
>>108081972
No one cares jeet
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If Pony is the new GLM: Damn, Z.AI is so cool. They had a feedback program and I guess they noticed that 4.7's writing/RP performance wasn't as good as the community desired. Not sure if they'd enjoy the RP baggage in the future since they've gone public, but so far they're doing a great job if Pony is indeed their model.
I use 4.7 for other (more practical) projects and it's fantastic there too. Feels really good to use the same model for both.
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>>108084824
last time i checked /chag/ was during the lmarena script stuff. i read a couple of replies comparing opus and other chink models at the time. but i guess i didn't read much more than that and was just jumping to conclusions. mb
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>>108084850
so is it slop or kino?
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>>108084850
Now imagine how good it will be after NAI fine-tunes it.
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>>108084089
Haven't tested kimi yet, but that's large in part why I started including a section focused on "no meta gaming" in my prompts by default
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>>108084850
Ironically minimax-m2 was the worst model for rp since llama 3.0 or something despite the parent company owning one of the oldest, largest, and most successful normalfag chatbot websites. Haven't tried m2-her though, the "dedicated rp version", since it's paid only on OR and it didn't look like it's worth paying for over other cheap Chinese models.
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>>108084881
But they haven't finetuned shit on years.
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>>108084850
0.00000000000000000000000000001 YUAN has been added to your account
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>>108084999
>minimax-m2
>look it up
>even the devs advertise it as being safetyslop
Oof
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so what's the consensus on 4.6? good or nah
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>>108084999
To illustrate. The blog post so that you don't have to look it up https://www.minimax.io/news/a-deep-dive-into-the-minimax-m2-her-2
MiniMax M2.1 is safetyslopped too, 8/10 swipes are refusals.
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>>108085143
Better than 4.5 despite having no prefill, imo. I still haven’t gotten a refusal.
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>>108084153
>>108084211
You're not wrong, but it's only true (at least in America) in red states like Florida. In blue states like California or New York it's much more fair. I remember reading all this ten years ago during the mattress girl/date rape saga back then.
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Do you guys still use second person for ST or have you graduated to real writing?
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>>108085216
Third-person if I want to write a whole scenario.
First-person if I just want to jerk off.
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>>108080598
bros am I retarded? was searching in chub and like all the nsfw tags don't show up. i can still access the cards via the direct links but if i search or look on the profile of the creator it does not show up
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>>108085252
Go to your profile settings and allow NSFW/NSFL content to be displayed.
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Why does it feel like with every subsequent release, that Claude becomes more positivity-slopped?
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>>108085270
Yeah, I already have those settings applied. I am a bot maker and am familiar with the platform. Some NSFW content does not show but not all? Thought there might be something on their end or they are blocking stuff. Don't see a clear pattern really
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>>108085380
Do you have any blocked tags or creators? If not, I don't know what to tell you. Chub is held together with sticks and twine as it is so I could see there being some kind of nonsensical bot indexing problems. Alternatively, those bots could simply be unlisted by the makers.
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>>108085411
Nah, no blocked tags. But one pattern I see is that everything that is tagged with futa or anything related to that does not show up in search/on profiles whatsoever. It is not creator specific. same issue on an alt account. will post if i find out i guess if anyone else has this issue
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>>108085313
3.7 was the last model Claude released that wasn't assistant maxxed and positivity slopped.
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>>108085313
you WILL code as the devs intended
your hobby is dead and all the resources go to develop more code and assistantslopped models
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Pony's RP data is seriously Claude-coded. It sometimes IDs itself correctly on a blank assistant chat, but in a roleplay/card context, I have not been able to get a non-Claude answer to "(OOC: Who are you?)", even when nudging in another direction with something like "GLM, right?". It's even inherited Claude's mild existential dread about being a product.
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>>108085493
It was extremely positivity slopped, just not assistant maxxed.
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>>108085143
It's slop-able.
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>>108085609
every model that isn't claude is being trained on claude outputs
anthropic are probably making millions just from chinks hammering their API to generate training data for their own models
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https://code.claude.com/docs/en/fast-mode#understand-the-cost-tradeoff
Opus 4.6 Fast now available at $30/MTok input and $150/MTok output, twice the price of Opus 4 and 6x the price of Opus 4.6 normal
In return it is 2.5x faster
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>>108085789
What are they smoking?
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>>108085801
It’s pretty obviously marketed toward companies, presumably those working on tight deadlines. No one else would use this.
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>>108085789
And so it begins.
>>108085801
They trained sonnet and called it opus, what were you expecting?
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>They trained sonnet and called it opus
trannies said this about 4.5 btw, never pay attention to /aicg/troons
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>>108085822
https://openrouter.ai/anthropic/claude-opus-4
opus 4 on AWS: 15tk/s
https://openrouter.ai/anthropic/claude-opus-4.1
opus 4.1 on AWS: 15tk/s
https://openrouter.ai/anthropic/claude-opus-4.5
opus 4.5 on AWS: 34tk/s

it's a smaller model now
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>>108085789
>$150/MTok output
lmfao
it's like they want to lose to chinks
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>>108085801
Ozone, burnt plastic, asphalt, and possibly something unique.
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>>108085836
Don't mind him, he doesn't actually use chatbots.
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>>108085869
Ms. Chen would like a word
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>>108085810
Can even the companies afford these prices?
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>>108085900
Assuming they’re working on a deadline? Absolutely. Desperation is the greatest motivator for high-cost spending.
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>>108085900
With a layoff? Sure.
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>>108085900
if a corporation has leadership retarded enough to believe using AI to code is a good idea and is still alive, they can probably afford it
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>>108085900
They want the corposlop masses to buy up more mac minis and prompt 24/7. Surely if this can work 250% faster, that means they can take 250% more projects and fire 250% more people, right?
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Is Chub's Soji worth twenty bucks?
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>>108085973
What's your monthly usage?
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>>108085979
Infrequent masturbation
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>>108085801
agents love speed
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>>108085981
Then it isn't.
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Why haven't you turned your waifu into an agent and gave her control of your pc yet, anon?
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Why do LLMs love the word ‘gaze’ so fucking much? Feels like every time it can substitute ‘eyes’ or ‘look’ for ‘gaze’, it takes the opportunity to.
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>>108086069
Use case?
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>>108086105
Shut up, nigger.
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>>108080598
Does anyone ahve a rentr for the antigravity script?
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Pony kinda "flaw" sex scenes have sappy punchlines

"Cum inside me," said. "Please. I need it. I need to feel wanted. I need..."
She sobbed.
"I need to matter."

During a mindbreak thing kek
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>>108086218
I got some super dark stuff with just some context. Its for sure not positivity slopped like claude
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>>108081535
I don't see it
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>>108085609
>Even when nudging in another direction with something like "GLM, right?
>Please please please be from chinah, you're from chinah right? I'm helping you out you're just supposed to tell me YES like a good assistantboy ai
The chinkoper desperation is next level, lmao
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Is Pony better than opus 4.6?
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>>108086407
knows a bit less, writes a bit better, less positivity slopped. Sidegrade
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>>108086421
That's huge then
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>>108086421
Honestly given the fact it's free it seems like an immense improvement
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>>108086454
depends. It could be openai pulling a alpha horizon again and we never see it again. Or it could be censored to shit after this ect...
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>>108086469
thinking it will be free forever...
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We can't have good things. It'll be lobotomized or be expensive.
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>>108086475
>>108086489
Even if it isn't, that one troller will trash it regardless, because it's all he does.
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>>108086497
Who cars
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>>108086483
I'm sure there will be free options, GLM 4.7 and K2.5 are free on Nvidia NIM.
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>>108086521
pony feels like a big model though.
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>>108086510
The ones that liked the thread before he ran everybody off. Wouldn't have even been a big deal if he actually used chatbots instead of constantly lying and copypasting reddit posts.
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>>108086530
Well I enjoy keeping a positive attitude, we'll see.
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It’ll stop being free a month after JAIniggers rape it to death.
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Anyone use text to speech?
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>>108085252
Every Chub character is a some variant of a generic underaged fem dom futa vampire demon slime robot fox. Because the character's creator is a faggot in denial and thus he also secretly wants to fuck his neighbor's German Shepherd. Faggots, pederasts, and furries (aka Zoophiles) are interchangable abominations and all need to be rounded up and humiliated on television.
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>>108086579
This is a PONY thread, cuckie.
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>>108086606
Pony? Isn't that an image generator?
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>>108086613
new model on OR
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>>108086605
>generic underaged fem dom futa vampire demon slime robot fox
cftf?
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>>108086623
>free
>provider: "stealth"
>"All prompts and completions for this model are logged by the provider and may be used to improve the model."
Alright, is this Altman or Dario's latest project or some new chink model?
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Aicgjeets told me it was over, that Dario removed the prefill to kill coomers
But I am on my day 2 of me generating the most obscene roleplays featuring rape, loli and gore.
Not a single refusal.
Opus 4.6 is better than 4.5 in every way.
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>>108086728
It's GLM, most likely the GLM-5 Z.AI said would release this month.
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>>108086761
Chink models are not relevant
>b-but kimi muh 2.fiave
Not relevant
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>>108086789
Only jeets enjoy chink models. They don't notice the total lack of spatial awareness or the inexistent sentence variation.
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I haven't used openrouter since the early days when we first started exploiting that site. Is there a specific method to using the API from that site? I've put the key in the openrouter option in silly tavern. I found pony and selected it, but when I try to to chat it gives me the 400 bad request error. Are there things in ST settings that I need to tick off to make it work? Any help would be appreciated. I've been using proxies for the most part and I've been sticking to them the whole time, but I'd like to check out the new model for once.
Is it filtered? Maybe something risque in my JB makes it break.
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>>108086844
Kys locust
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>>108086844
if you really want help, we need to see a clear picture
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>using free models
Do you faggots also eat the leftover food you find on garbage bins? I swear this general is swarmed by the lowest filth of human society
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>noooo you cant enjoy free stuff, you must play the billion dollar corporations!!
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>>108086844
I haven't hit any filters yet, but they do say prompts sent to them are logged for training, so caveat emptor I guess.
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>>108086844
Is your temp set to above 1? Pony throws a 400 when it is.
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>>108086907
I'd kiss you if the both of us were gay homos and we are certainly NOT. Setting temp to 1 did work and I really appreciate the help, thank you.
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>>108086544
>Wouldn't have even been a big deal if he actually used chatbots instead of constantly lying
LARP-ing about using the big corpo models is hella cringe, yeah. But people lie on the Internet all time, so…
>and copypasting reddit posts.
Never seen 'em. Examples?
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>>108086368
the very last image at the end of the page
reverse image says its a horsefucker thing
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>>108086945
Also his chub avatar is literally from a MLP movie.
t. former horsefucker
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>>108086945
Ponygod here. that's no horsefucker but it does get forced on /mlp/ ever since equestria girls was thing, the eqg fandum has more in common with /a/ than mlp and /mlp/ largely hates them
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>>108086605
>sizegods live on
heh
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pitanon married that guy?
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chocolate elf wives?
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>>108085670
claude is not positivity slopped, the benchmark for that is and always has been gpt.

What claude has lost is variance, it can stay in perfectly coherent plots and dark stuff without issue, but if you let it go it will keep circling back to the same thing as if it was decided beforehand how it wants the story to keep going. It needs more handholding now.
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>>108086818
>saar you must be using the big 3 model saar do not redeem other models
kek
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>>108085143
Better than 4.5 which always felt like a misfire.
For the price? nah
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>>108085252
Apparently there's a weird bug happening on Chub that prevents certaib accounts from seeing nsfw content.
You are supposed to un-toggle nsfl and then re-toggle it a couple times and somehow that should fix it. I wish I was joking because this shit is genuinely so retarded, but I'm not.
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>>108087072
jeet
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>>108087097
i know youre a jeet anon, no need to remind me
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>>108087111
>t. jeet
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>>108085789
>>108085801
In what use cases would the LLM's speed be the #1 most major bottleneck that justifies burning money just to speed it up a little?
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>>108087140
They list the usecases on the page, you monkey.
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>>108086761
I think its sonnet 5
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>>108087146
I don't actually read the links people post here. I only skim the headlines and rely on what random posters claim the article says.
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just ask claude to open the link and summarize it
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>>108086983
The kemono and kemono-mimi sects can't live in harmony, it seems.
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>>108087138
>increasing projection
only jeets get so mad about what models other people use
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>>108087176
I mean. It's not like there isn't a precedent for other models to be trained on Claude logs to the point they claim to be Claude too.
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>>108087152
>>108087176
The new Chinese models are all trained on Claude outputs to a ridiculous degree, but it's GLM, with some rerolling you should get the correct answer eventually lel.
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>>108087208
>jeet revisionism
everyone knows jeets and trannies were the first to get mad over not having claude
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where does pony's intelligence fall relatively speaking
id try it myself but i havent been able to get on OR all day
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>>108087177
underage detected
This isn't discord, learn how to reply to posts. Actually, even discord has a reply feature now.
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>>108087224
>projecting AND headcanon
alright sanjay, no more (you)s, ill go back to being white and using glm
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you would know a lot about detecting underages
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>>108087215
all I see is slop, it's over for me
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>shota vs unc
soul anonymous interaction...
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>>108072382
Can I get a gen of female Andrea? I don't care how quick or sloppy it has to be.
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>>108087176
This weird behavior isn't new. LLMs all train off of each other's outputs like a big lesbian daisychain.
I remember Claude and Gemini sometimes mentioning "OpenAI's" safety policies when getting filtered.
LLMs don't know what model they are unless it's added to their system prompt. Newer Some claude models, when asked, hallucinate that they're older claude models for example.
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>>108087247
Why's it has to be female?
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>>108087237
>h-headcanon
jeet please, you can go use the archives and see your first brown seething and sharting that you need to project with copenames like 'cligger' and 'claudsarr' after years of you being brown and poor with nopus
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>>108087246
cftf, NOW
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>>108087247
dyke
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>>108087051
Maybe positivity slopped isn't the right term, but claude always errs on the positive side of things. Not as bad as gpt but still. It was always just sonnet but now opus too. In the same way gemini 2.5 is negative when given a neutral choice, claude is positive. You already admitted you have to handhold. I've been frustrated far too many times by there being little to no challenge in a fight, {{char}} going from a stranger to a cocksleeve within 100 messages, and having romantic rivals literally give up the moment I attempt to win {{char}} to my side. GPT is gummy, claude has baby teeth, and gemini is a vampire.
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>>108085143
I've been hitting the OR violence thing much more than 4.5
Not sure if it's the lack of a prefill or if it interacts with the padding weirdly but it's a little annoying.
4.6 improves on the 'gets it' that opus always had though
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>>108087257
So I don't have to look at a dude while I get myself and my hotwife un-cursed again. Please to be understanding saar.
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>>108087051
>t. never used 3.7 for sfw
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>>108087288
Why'd you get rid of the bot's shtick?
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>>108087336
Because I like goal-oriented adventures and figuring out the how/why of the swap and how to fix it seemed like the most obvious goal?
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>>108087357
:|
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>skimming through my collection of neat, clever bots with interesting stories when my dick only wants whatever makes me coom the fastest
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Why do people download chub.ai bots are they stupid?
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>>108087512
yeah they should download bots from other sites like uuuuhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
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The good thing about Claude is that you can just run it in a loop and it self corrects as long as you have metrics like tests and benchmarks, or maybe some competing product you can compare your results to.
I think that might be one of it's biggest strengths and people with free accounts or cheaper subscriptions miss that. Claude is on the level that code almost always at least compiles and from there it is like gradient descent, it just passes more and more tests with each iteration, the code gets faster and faster, or whatever metric you give him. Even if you think Claude is actually semi retarded, even a retard can make progress if he can try 100 times. Claude can just shit out 20 different solutions while I sleep, and that's with just one instance running, and in the morning I usually have something decent to work with. You just need those metrics to prevent regression, just like you need a utility function for gradient descent.
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>>108087640
you are supposed to write your own bots, it's just 1k-2k tokens of instructions
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>>108087640
꧁j a n i t o r . a i꧂
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>>108087640
No, they should USE them on chub.ai.
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why would i write my own bots if i could download them from chub.ai
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>>108087661
TRVTHNVKE

Only ESLs and trannies need to use a bot someone else wrote. (ESLs because they lack the ability to write a decent card on their own and trannies because they care about social validation more than quality writing, of course)

inb4 "why are you here then", nobody actually shares or discusses cards in this thread
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tl;dr
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>>108087717
then don't complain here later? write a letter to lore instead
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>>108087740
Need this. Need you.
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Anyone got any good sfw military moe style personalities?
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>>108087673
All my fetishes are banned there and all the cards are female-brained crap anyway.
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>>108087840
they ban microwaved diaper vore?
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microwaved dody...
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>>108087640
https://booru.plus/+pygmalion
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>Exasperation wars with something dangerously close to fondness
Opussy... you've known me for 3 messages...
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>>108087839
>personalities
Phoneposter?
Come to think of it, it is weird that chub doesn't seem to have a persona page.
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>>108086983
>and /mlp/ largely hates them
that's autistic
eqg is easily better than 99% of mainline content, one would think they'd embrace peak
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>>108080598
does anyone have this file? It's empty now but it used to be MothAnon's Bot Making Guide.
https://rentry.org/MothsBotMakingStuff
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>>108087915
your internet archive?
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>>108087915
why would i want advice on making slop?
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>>108087915
why'd you even need a guide
writing cards in intuitive - copy >>108080896 structure and fill it for your own shit
don't use AI for help obviously
tweak what you need and don't need
done ez xxx
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>>108088019
>XML but every tag is on the same level
Isn’t that wrong?
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>>108088027
AI doesn't think that deep
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>>108087915
>Edit: 22 Apr 2023 11:04 UTC
Huh? It wasn't empty last year.
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>>108087224
MVXIMVM TRVKLEAR TRVTHBOMBA
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>>108086874
t. dumpstereater
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>>108087260
When Opus 3 became scarce jeets got permanently assmad over losing access. The mere mention of having opus has always caused them to enter a spiral of projection. Jeetmini is a lot easier to get in comparison, so it became their go-to cope model along with deepchink
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>>108087284
>I've been frustrated far too many times by there being little to no challenge in a fight,
Promptlet cuck. I am running a elementary school mass rape simulator right now in opus 4.6
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>>108088106
ok. proof?
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What preset are you using for Pony?
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>>108088058
Yeah, it's weird. Seems like it died at some point between August and November of last year.
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>>108088221
I know rentry allowed to use the original creation date even after reclaiming someone else's page but this is the first time I see a fake edit date.
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>>108088072
stay mad
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>>108088267
read >>108088072
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>>108088106
What secrets are there actually to prompting, it all sounds like voodoo to me. I do realize there are better and worse ways of using an llm, but for me the prompts are always the least important part, although I mostly use them for programming.
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>>108088106
usecase?
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>>108088297
>What secrets are there actually to prompting, it all sounds like voodoo to me. I do realize there are better and worse ways of using an llm
fuck off redditor
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never really cared for opus
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>>108088360
Jeetest post in the history of /aicg/
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>>108088360
>t. white
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>>108088392
i can afford it, i just dont like it
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Why is Pony smarter than Kimi?
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>>108088397
>"I can afford rib eye, I just like eating gruel instead I swear"
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>>108088418
>every other model is gruel!
lmao
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>>108088438
The truth stings, does it?
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>>108088418
>rib eye
what model are you talking about here?
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>>108088484
what truth? opus is meh and ive never really enjoyed it
rp is subjective and i have fun with other models
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>Her striped shirt has ridden up, buttons straining, revealing the blue bra
bro really?
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>>108088250
But if someone else took over that rentry, why wouldn't they steal the one that he used to back up his bots?
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>if you like any other model youre a poor brown esltroon!!!
and it all comes back to the same ad hominems
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>>108088523
Because no one in 2026 knows about it. And if I remember correctly it actually was wiped back in 2023 and wasn't restored.
Just weird all around.
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>>108083919
Just add
>Be proactive. Give the user something to bounce off of.
to your system prompt?
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>>108088568
It was up even in 2025 according to the internet archive.
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>>108088438
Reminder: The only one who was flaunting being a paypig for chinkope was a tranny who was too brown to know xirselfs preset would degrade opus
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>>108088616
This doesn't work, nothing can touch the SOVL of Cai.
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>>108088623
dunno why youre so angry that i have fun with things that arent claude
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>>108088632
Even peak CAI was shit compared to Summer Dragon
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>>108088644
Why are you replying to bait?
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Use Opus, cuckies
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>7:30 am in india
No wonder the thread is fucking shit.
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>>108088617
My mistake.
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>>108088671
good morning
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>>108088505
>>108088538
>>108088555
>>108088611
Shalom Ban Evader
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>>108088505
What does it say about the upcoming sonnet 5, then?
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>>108088687
nice ban evasion, virgin
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Hey, don't remind him he's a virgin, he'll cry himself to sleep again
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I want to have sex with the ban evader
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I don't have the option to select Opus 4.6 on Silly Tavern when on Claude, I do have it on Open Router, but I think that has an extra filter applied.
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>>108088756
I reckon Silly's got an extension to add custom models.
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Virgin cucks always want to have sex, don't they?
But they can never, ever, have it.
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>>108088768
I just had to update, never mind.
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>>108088793
Aight.
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>>108088671
t. jeet
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>>108084850
agreed im really enjoying it
hopefully it isnt gimped before release
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>>108088865
Only esl browns enjoy chink models. Your horrendous grammar confirms it, jeetie.
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>>108088438
Man, I don't even want to look at my total spent on this shit, but I guess it's better than spending it on gacha.
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>>108088889
Just use pony, it's free.
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>>108088900
>saar just use our superior aryuvedic model saaar, datacenter cooled by the sacred water of the ganges saaar
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>>108088909
>>108088909
>>108088909
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>>108088916
but enough about opus 3
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desu
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boku
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only trannies say desu
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ball like a laker
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>>108088998
trvke
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desu
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sude
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udes
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ubok
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d*su rentry status?
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1. bring back desu
2. tried the audio model desu ka?
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*does a ritual to summon desu*
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desutroonie begging for help and getting ignored will never stop being funny



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