>>108084970
why is someone telling me what to do?

>>108084970
Because we have established systems for package management and his alternative is stupid.
His reaction is also pure mental illness, and the little "this is what we can't have things" he gave shows that he is both terminally reddit and delusionally self-righteous.

BUCKStation

>>108085016
>his alternative is stupid
Its just an appimage. You can't even claim it's about the convenience of your package manager since the appimage version is also on the aur.

>autistic archniggers ruin everything

>>108085153
Nix did it too, Stenzek realized that both distros attract peak Dunning-Kruger retards that have zero idea what they're doing.

>>108085016
how do I downvote retarded posts on this website

>>108084970
If you're still using cuckstation after stenzek sperged out and changed the license then you deserve to get fucked over

>>108084970
Why would you ever use anything other than mednafen/beetle-psx

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#!/usr/bin/env bash

# SPDX-FileCopyrightText: 2019-2025 Connor McLaughlin <stenzek@gmail.com>
# SPDX-License-Identifier: CC-BY-NC-ND-4.0
#
# NOTE: In addition to the terms of CC-BY-NC-ND-4.0, you may not use this file to create
# packages or build recipes without explicit permission from the copyright holder.
#

don't care still using it in my package, what is he going to do, sue me? lmao

qrd?

>make ur project free to use opensource
>n-no not like that

>>108085378
you can do whatever you want, he just asks you not to come crying to him when you fuck up whatver you're trying to do instead of using the appimage he provides you.

Are the archtards really bitching that someone is proving them a niche package in a usable format? Of all the alternative packaging formats they could be bitching about, they pick the one fucking thing where it's a fucking appimage.

When duckstation becomes deprecated or enshittified, you're going to wish you had the appimage.

I installed this with the AppImage yesterday. It was easy.

>>108084970
Regardless of the drama, AppImages are still vended by Duckstation and should be the preferred method of installation.

>>108085577
Why?

>>108085557
Actually we're bitching that he switched it to a non-free license and added code to intentionally break it on arch and nix.

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>>108085379
pretty much yeah, he changed the license after having a tism tantrum and now he blocked building in arch and nixos because he "refuses to build in hostile package environments", this nigga crazy

>>108085622
>>108085634
just clone it, patch it, then call it something else. tf timmy gon do?

>>108085378
He can sue you, but courts usually don't care for copyleft licenses, so he'd just bash his head against the wall and lose money on attorneys.

>>108085645
I guarantee the tard will file a billion DMCA requests.

>>108085634
He literally changed the license because some emulator device company shipped it and profited out of it, like nigga, are you so bonkers retarded to not know the basics of the license you picked?

>>108085577
>deprecated or enshittified
Who gives a fuck, you can just grab an old build and move on. Duckstation has been running exactly the same for years, flawless.

If you can't build from source, don't use any of the binaries on https://github.com/duckstation/old-releases/ newer than v0.1-7371

>>108085685
That's pretty much swanstation I think, it's just duckstation before the relicensing/gpl violation

>>108085698
Swanstation doesn't have any binaries that function exactly like duckstation, for desktop use
I'm stuck with old duckstation for now

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>>108084970
What authority does he have to say what people can and cannot do? It's the Internet, you're getting bent over and fucked raw. Why? For the lulz

>>108085044
They really look like that and say that

There's also pcsxr if you really want a maintained free emu.
Comes with a free bios too.
https://www.mirrorservice.org/sites/libreboot.org/release/canoeboot/26.01/roms/playstation/openbios.bin

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Emulation is for poorfag brown thirdies.

Buy a Playstation.

>>108084970
who the fuck even cares about some cuck station gaymes emulgator? who this guy think he is lol?

>>108085777
Apparently they care enough to use it even when told not to.

>>108085698
>swanstation
dont know what that is but its great that you find it useful

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>>108084970
thanks anon you reminded me to update my package to the latest version :^)

>>108085110
ok, what's NOT on the aur you dumb hick?

>>108085622
he wouldn't have needed to do that if you owned up to your own fuckups instead of pestering him about them

>>108085752
>25 years of technical debt in an emulator
No thanks

>>108084970
Maybe it's because I'm not autistic, but if the occasional Arch troon messages you on Discord or whatever. Can you just ignore/block them/throw our a copy pasted message? Seems like doing all this drama shit is a bigger waste of time.

>>108084970
Honestly I hope he just breaks Linux support completely so that a fork of the last free version can take over.

>>108084970
Maybe he should make it easer to compile his fucking software then.

bsnes never had this problem, because it was always .config, make, make install. Worst shit you had to do was install the newest SDL or QT library.

Instead Duckstation uses a bunch of weird shit where nothing even fucking works if the compiled directory doesn't match the install directory. I doubt he could even write code without an IDE.

Dude is literally retarded.

His emulator has a lot of other hardcoded retarded decisions, it's not like he went out of his way to just be retarded on distribution or compiling.

He should stick to python or front end web dev.

>>108086023
He's an attention whore who screams harassment if you look at him the wrong way. I'm pretty sure no one ever even mentioned NixOS to him.
He was the guy behind putting adware into AetherSX2 out of spite. The PCSX2 devs kicked him for being impossible to work with and he rejoined under an alt.

PS1 emulation is a solved problem

>>108085871
The point is that your entitled behavior is deliberately antagonistic. You sound like an emotional manbaby. Seek therapy

>>108086133
Yeah by Duckstation

>>108085348
Duckstation has a very friendly GUI. Mednafen is text-based, and even if there are frontends, setting that up is not as straightforward.

I am on arch, and using the appimage for years now because I prefer appimages.

what was the drama about again?
packagers keep pestering duckstation to do what exactly?
tl;dr?

>>108086194
If you can't install the beetle psx hw core and drag and drop a rom I can't help you man

>>108086199
Schizo dev complains about a bad maintainer, doesn't get a response - AUTISM. Many such cases!

>>108086199
the drama was he doesn't want retards to open issues when using non official builds (appimage) so he asked aur and nixtroons to remove the non official builds, of course they didn't agree so he got mad

>>108086194
While I agree with you, RetroArch has the beetle core as well, which makes it easier to setup. It's still not as easy as Duckstation, which I use over it.

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ArchTODDLERS BTFO

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>when using non official builds (appimage)
what?
I downloaded the appimage from the github releases page, so it's pretty much official.

>p.s. just started Soul Reaver, first ever playthrough, hearing good things about this game

>>108084970
Don't care still using ePSXe

>>108086199
End users were apparently reporting bugs that only existed in the AUR package upstream, Stenzek went on a weeks long rant about how he's working for free and these conditions are unacceptable and Linux users are a negligible portion of the userbase that he'd be better off dropping support for entirely and the entire Linux ecosystem is shit, especially Wayland. He started pestering the AUR maintainers demanding that the package be taken down, and then when it wasn't he changed the license from the GPLv3 to a non-free/source-available Creative Commons license to try and force them to, not knowing that the AUR package was compliant with it anyway. He started adding code to intentionally break Duckstation on Arch, and when the AUR package added a patch to fix it, he added more, now also targeting NixOS for some reason.

>>108084970
If your code is out on the internet, I will do whatever the fuck I want with it. This nigger's crybaby meltdown is not my problem.

>>108086199
tl;dr: Dev is autistic, has constant meltdowns over a non-issues.

>>108086166
Duckstation is just a stolen frontend glued together to a stolen mednafen core.
Ping us when your shitty emulator will support VCD, pocketstation or iMode

>>108086064
You're describing like 90% of foss ecosystem. It's a fuckin joke.

>>108086090
It's worth mentioning that the PCSX2 drama that got him kicked was him throwing a tantrum about it being relicensed from LGPLv3 to GPLv3.

>>108086298
I mean he wants you to use the appimage, not the aur or nixtroon packages

>>108086373
I dunno about Duckstation, but this sounds just like a skill issue. Building most things is easy.

What's really annoying is that the Creative Commons Non-Commercial No-Derivatives license doesn't let you modify and redistribute the code at all, yet it doesn't even disallow the repackaging that he's seething about. We should really start migrating to one of the forks of the last GPLv3 version.

Any forks being worked on from before the sperg-out? Or even better, alternatives that are still standalone, and not bundled with other emulators using a dogshit UI made for Pi's. Kinda surprised nobody is doing what UZDoom did with Graf Zahl.

>>108086387
Wrong. The relicensing happened after he was trown out, to stop his shitty android port

I use XEBRA because it runs like actual fucking hardware.

>>108086428
you dont get it

building is usually easy if you use the official bloated way, what is more tricky is forcing the build to use system libraries

BROTLI
FREETYPE
HARFBUZZ
LIBBACKTRACE
LIBJPEGTURBO
LIBPNG
LIBWEBP
LIBZIP
ZLIBNG
ZSTD
SDL3
QT=6.10.2
CPUINFO
DISCORD_RPC
PLUTOSVG
SHADERC
SOUNDTOUCH
SPIRV_CROSS
DXCOMPILER
FFMPEG

can be reduced to only this if you use system libraries. I mean why would you want to compile qt6 to build an emulator.

LIBBACKTRACE
LIBZIP
CPUINFO
DISCORD_RPC
PLUTOSVG
SHADERC
SOUNDTOUCH
SPIRV_CROSS
DXCOMPILER

Why doesn't he just copyright the name Duckstation at this point

>>108086566
Wouldn't surprise me if there is something that is already using the Duckstation trademark.

>>108086477
It's not even source-available, cuck.
Plus the PSX had enough hardware revisions that "actual fucking hardware" is ill-defined.

>>108085016
>alternative
>appimage
Works on my machine.

>>108084970
>Leave bicycle unlocked on front lawn so your neighbors can borrow it whenever they want
>Get mad at neighbors when random nigger comes from out of town and steals bike

>>108086752
No one even stole it. This entire meltdown is just about misdirected bug reports.

>>108086760
How did anticipate that out before deciding to add Linux support to his project?
If you look at indie game devs who made Linux ports of their games the most common complain is that "Linux users bring in 1% of the money and make 99% of the complaints". Same with proprietary software devs, which is why Linux support usually costs a fortune even on otherwise affordable software.
The only proper way to do include Linux-compatible code, without being a part of the open source cult by yourself, is by putting up a big fucking sign that says this application only has experimental and entirely unsupported Linux functionality, for which no support is provided and no bug reports are accepted.

>>108086811
>If you look at indie game devs who made Linux ports of their games the most common complain is that "Linux users bring in 1% of the money and make 99% of the complaints".
The only specific example I am aware of off the top of my head is a developer praising linux users for being over represented in bug reports because they tended to provide high quality reports with reproduction steps and also mostly reported bugs that weren't linux-specific.
https://old.reddit.com/r/gamedev/comments/qeqn3b/despite_having_just_58_sales_over_38_of_bug/

>>108085685
What was the last good version? Or has he removed them now?

>>108086686
It's made by some japanese autist I don't care I trust autistic nips.

>>108086887
>made by some japanese autist
It's made by an autistic Australian, I went to the same university as him.

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>>108084970
>Creator tells you not to do something
Nope. Creator does not get a say on what I do on my computer. Ever, under any circumstances. Creator can go fuck himself anf take their creation with him.

>nobody has listed any alternatives yet
I guess we're stuck on Cuckstation then.

Wasn't there drama when retroarch devs removed and replaced duckstation?

>>108086306
Chad

>>108086909
Well I trust australian autists then. The dr.hell website is in nipponese so I just assumed him to be japanese.

>>108084970
And? There's other emulators. Who gives a flying duck? You can't release a project - on GitHub no less - and then tell users what they're "forbidden" to do with it. He's fucking crying because users ask him for support instead of the AUR package maintainer, but I wonder if the dumb faggot even understands AUR in the first place. He's saying that arch users would rather use a "broken" version but the PKGBUILD is literally pulling from his fucking GitHub. So if it's broken, it's his shit that's broken and that's why they are posting issues on the GitHub for the project. His fucking nothingburger of an emulator is not something revolutionary that Linux users can't live without. Every person I know into emulation uses other emulators and not this trash so him ending Linux support, sorry bud... Nothing of value was lost.

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>>108086919
just play on a ps1 or ps2

>>108086919
a) retroarch + beetlePSX (based on mednafen)
b) retroarch + beetlePSX HW (new graphics engine, hardware accelerated)
c) pure mednafen cli (perfect? emulation with truthful 1:1 video + audio output)
d) pcsx-Redux, haven't tested this, bit has a linux build

>inb4

>retroarch is confusing!!
you are just dumb
>mendafen cli is confusing!
you are just dumb
>i like duckstation ui
keep using it then, the appimage works perfectly
>b-but I want to build it myself with -march=native
you can, you are so dumb

>>108085586
What retards complaining about packages and stuff don't understand that emulator hobbyists want portability. Appimage allows me to define an external directory for my configs so I can just point this where I have my ps1 bios files and duckstation ini files located.
This is million times more flexible than trying to give some flatpak access rights and going through settings via ui manually...

>>108087050
I do but they look like shit on modern TVs and the resolution increase on Cuckstation was really good.

>>108087052
>keep using it then, the appimage works perfectly
Is an older version needed though? What was the final non-retarded license version?

>>108086919
I used pcsxr like 10 years ago and it was fine.

>>108087066
rolling release, built 3 days ago
>https://github.com/stenzek/duckstation/releases/download/latest/DuckStation-x64.AppImage

>>108087052
pcsx-redux is more for development than gaming

>>108086919
Fucked up that this emotionally unstable autist gets to play dictator

>>108085772
your iq must be in the 80s because are even stupider than a poorfag brown thirdie
poorfags are the ones buying $20 ps1 because they can't afford a $2000 pc to giga upscale their games with emulators

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>arch shitters ruining everything
Tale as old as time

>>108086760
And when you really think about it, it's not even really misdirected. AUR works like this: AUR helper searches AUR db, finds listing for what you want, it then pulls in the PKGBUILD from AUR which is literally just a script that tells your machine how to build it. Most of the time all the PKGBUILD does is specifies the commands needed to build the project from source, checks to make sure you have all of the dependencies required, then it pulls in the source code of the project and builds/installs it. The steps IN the PKGBUILD are always the exact installation instructions from the developer of the package, and if needed there will be slight changes if it's only got instructions for one or two distros that do things different from 'standard' - e.g. if the package was only meant to be used on Bazzite, the installation instructions may have it installing to somewhere in /var/ rather than /usr/local/bin/ or /opt/ etc, so the PKGBUILD will tell it to install to the location every other distro would use.

None of that is the case with duckstation. It literally used to just install exactly by the GitHub instructions. Now it's got faggy shit like "if [ "$i_swear_to_never_bother_the_developer_about_this_package" = "true" ]; " that has to be set during build or it will automatically break. He's literally being a whiney fucking attention whore because he doesn't want to support installations by an automated system he didn't create, despite the steps being identical to manual.

>>108087149
>Implying a meme that hasn't been true in over 15 years means anything

>>108087150
wrong retard, usually aur
PKGBUILDS debundle third party libraries and use system libraries when possible. thats why the duckstation dev added his special license thing to the deps and build-linux-deps scripts so they can't be modified and included in the third party repo (aur, nixtroon).

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>>108086312
>this much drama when you can just put a line in the issue creation form saying that the official build is the only one that will be cared about and everything else will be closed with prejudice
Genuinely what is his problem?

>>108087181
>>Implying a meme that hasn't been true
>looks around
>everybody still hates arch shitters

>>108086373
>You're describing like 90% of foss ecosystem
Do tell.

>>108086428
If a program is easy to build & install, you spend less time troubleshooting retards & more time coding.

>>108086461
Swan Station, from the old license.

>>108084970
What ps1 games are even worth replaying?

he's pretty talented but he's also an insufferable prick. also his idea of an issue tracker is a fucking discord channel, he then proceeds to throw a fit because issues can't be properly tracked and packaging issues can't be easily sorted out

>>108087742
Parappa the rapper

i don't know what the drama is and i don't care. finna boot up duckstation and play some crash 1

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>>108087742
Got these on an sd-card in my PS1 X-Station.

>>108087028
Sometimes you get a bug report that turns out to be caused by a known bug in a particular version of the toolchain for a particular platform and it isn't broken in your own builds or in the official builds you distribute or on the latest version of the toolchain but because the user installed it as a third party package in a particular month of the year their binary is broken so good luck reproducing it
Personally I just suck it up but it does make life more difficult

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Arch Linux is a meme distro that got way too popular. Used to use it when I was more autistic, now I use Ubuntu and Debian

>>108087866
but mooooomm, i NEED to use unconfigured and poorly packaged and constantly changing programs because my friends on 4chan say it's BASED

>>108087866
having used many many distros starting from slackware like 20 years ago.
i have to say that the best package managers I've worked with are pacman and xbps (void)

apt is just too weird and slow and obtuse, like , apt, apt-get, dpkg ?
make up your fucking mind. also I hate the defaults even on minimum install on debian.

Arch works best for me, because I like minimum installs, like I only install two fonts on my xfce, and just a few gui programs that I use, that's it. no gvfs, no avahi, no wifi gui control panel, no nothing that I don't use.
Arch can do this, and I fucking love it.

>Arch is a meme distro
that's something only morons who don't have a basic understanding of how a linux system is built says.

also
>Ubuntu.
ok it is stable I guess since there is a company supporting it,
but that's not nothing to brag about, that's what normies use,
like you googled what is linux yesterday and some faggot youtuber suggested you use ubuntu and you did.

>>108084970
maybe he shouldn't use appimages if he doesn't like the way it can be extracted.
fuckin sperg.

>>108087828
Nice list anon, no colin mcrae rally though?

>>108088073
Thanks.
Never played it before.
Not like they're hard to find kek.

>>108084970
Devs don't matter, only users if this retard won't listen he will get hanged.

>>108088092
I get mine from Vimms Lair.
They had to purge a bunch of roms awhile ago due to copyright, where else do you get them without being too specific.

>>108088119
cdromance. been the king for years

>>108088158
thanks anon.

>>108088119
some place ice cold.

>>108085176
This.
This is why you don't belong here.
Incidently, it's tangently related to why everything you touch goes to shit.

>>108088119
>>108088158
>>108088177
Just use the megathread.
rentry dot org slash pgames
Are you new to the internet? Please get librewolf as browser, if you download stuff.

>>108088158
Does that still work? I thought they had the same shit as Vimm's happen.

>>108085698
>it's just duckstation before the relicensing/gpl violation
My first thought: Why didn't someone just fork it pre-license change...

>>108085742
>What authority
When you make something you get to choose. Be greatful they chose to allow you the opportunity to abuse.
There's a great many things you won't ever get near precisely because I choose not to allow it. Because you have demonstrated it would be unwise.

>>108088248
newfag

>>108085016
>open source
>faggots acting insanely ill and self righteous
many such cases

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>>108085016
this

>>108084970
Only a handful of games are worth the effort for installing a ps1 emulator anyway. SotN, MGS1 and the Tomb Raider ones. There's nothing else.

>>108085772
>buy a dog shit console that will die on you and look shit
get me a big CRT then maybe, otherwise no

>>108088282
Keep telling yourself that.
One day it might become true.

>>108086312
>adding code to intentionally break Duckstation on Arch, and when the AUR package added a patch to fix it, he added more
HAHAHAHAHA oh wow, how incredibly pathetic! Reminds me of those patreon faggots that'd add literal DRM to their GAME MODS

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>>108088365
I still have my PS1 but some weird shit is going on with it, one side of the console gets burning hot to the touch and some of the games load the models broken.

>>108084970
>Creator tells you not to do something
on what ground? who the fuck does he think he is?
>Lintoddlers do it anyways
damn right, freedom and shit
>Creator gets mad and makes it even more restrictive for normal people
not our fault the dev is an adult-toddler, what did you expect from a dev for a retroconsole? they're disney-adult stuck in childhood forever to escape from their miserable existences.
if he deletes his software then good fucking riddance, nothing of value would be lost because people cloned and forked his shit already so babby tim can cry all he wants this won't change a thing.
>Why couldn't you just do what he asked?
No. he knew the rules, does he think he is god or something and that people would miraculously follow his holy precepts? fuck this dude, most likely a troon anyways.
>>108088279
>When you make something you get to choose.
no you absolutely don't, whatever is released to the public is now "public domain" (not legally I fucking know, retard) and people can do what they want with it.
don't like it? don't release any fucking thing, we all know the rules, if you don't like them don't play the game.
copyright laws are obsolete in the digital world, there are ways to try and mitigate things like drm and SaaS but this would be too much work for one retard anyways

>>108088390
>gets burning hot to the touch
If you value the hardware, discontinue use until resolved.

>some of the games load the models broken.
Is that consistent? As in, the same game will consisntly 'break' the same models?
Potentially, this could be a thermal consequence? Once it gets too hot...

>>108088405
>no you absolutely don't, whatever is released to the public
You get to choose if it ends up there. Well. In theory.
Gets very hard to download something you don't even know exists.

>and people can do what they want with it.
And people that release things can ask you not to do things with them.
Enforcing that is another matter entirely, but they can ask. In fact, many do. Famously, apple ask you not to build nuclear weapons with itunes.

>here are ways to try and mitigate things like drm and SaaS
Simply put, cancer.

>>108088257
why the fuck are you calling me new you dumb faggot?

>>108088513
>If you value the hardware, discontinue use until resolved.
I've no clue how to solve it desu, no repair places exist for this stuff. It was also modded sometime in the 90s so idk what's inside it.

>Is that consistent? As in, the same game will consisntly 'break' the same models?
No, it seems random. It doesn't happen all the time either.

I think I'll continue to do whatever the fuck I want.

>>108085772
>superior graphics and features and loading times and reliability are for niggers

>>108088598
I play on a CRT, you need the equivalent of ten Cray Y-MPs to make your garbage look good with your filters and scalers.

>>108088734
>derails argument from emulation vs oroginal hardware to crt vs lcd
nigga you know there are CRT PC monitors, right?

>>108088529
>no repair places exist for this stuff.
It exists. It's unlikely cheap. Wouldn't know where to begin looking from top of head, beyond 'internet'.
Doing it yourself is somewhat plausible, running it with the upper case off (might need to jimmy the lid sensor) might reveal precisely where the heat is comin' from. Access to thermal imaging would be a plus - can get some cheap nowadays - tho if that much heat can bleed thru the case it should be easy to spot...
Quitehow to resolve depends entirely on the why it's getting hot... If you've never been in it maybe it's just really old and three decades of dust has become a problem... Smoking around devices kills them - unlike dust the residue is 'sticky', resin from joints and buckets can sieze fans with the buildup...

>modded sometime in the 90s
Modded, how? For plying pirates? wouldn't of thought it related... but who knows.

>>108084970
>normal people
>nixos user
Pick one.

>"Developer is severely autistic and notoriously difficult to deal with."
BUT releases an appimage that works fine. At least he's not so autistic to only release flatpaks, nixos or AUR packages. I've seen that many times.

I'm on debian so I prefer deb packages, but appimage is fine for me, unlike flatpak

>>108088776
It's a different deal. It's all about dot pitch. PC monitors were the LCD's of the CRT days.

>>108084970
As a Windows 7 Power User Chad, I'm stuck with a old version of Duck Station that predates the controversy so literally none of this matters to me. One of many reasons why Windows 7 users will inherit the earth.

>>108088888
cool, there are CRT TVs with HDMI or DVI ports too. The argument is emulator vs original PS, not display technology vs display technology

Just more proof that Linux toddlers are insufferable vegans of IT.

>>108089020
The dev already had similar meltdowns and it had nothing to do with linux, guy is just a sperg lol

>>108089020
enjoy your agentic os lol

>>108088963
No no, it's not about the connector either. No retro system was made for HDMI or DVI. And the Dreamcast looked WORSE on a VGA compared to a TV.

>>108087063
I can (and did) also lock down the appimage with firejail. I hate flatpaks so much.

>>108086276
>RetroArgh
Boy I HATE how that shit is taking over standalone emulators.

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>>108088888
Czech'd
>>108088888
>CRT PC monitors were the LCD's of the CRT days.
lol what?

>>108085855
What is it even checking for it to pop up that window? It can't be phoning home, can it?

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>>108089672
It is saying that if you are the one that modified the build, that you are not allowed to (NC-ND) commercialize or distribute your modified build. Please check the box if this is the case. (telemetry &|| stat farming)
If you downloaded this build from the WWW, then it is an illegal copyleft violating build and you should not use it, but use an official build instead or modify the source code yourself if you desire whatever additional changes the illegal copyleft violating build you are now using contains.

Hope that helps.

>>108085855
why do the idiots producing "unofficial builds" not just delete the code that creates this license warning?

>>108085855
developer humiliation ritual

>>108087149
based arch-bro gatekeeping the normies who will ruin linux if given half a chance.

>>108089803
I haven't built it from source myself, but I wouldn't be surprised it pops up for every build built from source, regardless if it is modified or not. I imagine the people building from source don't mess with the code at all, or don't care to search for the paranoid code.

>>108089847
>I imagine the people building from source don't mess with the code at all, or don't care to search for the paranoid code.
so much for the freetard fantasy of "everyone can le modify the code"

>>108084970
>Why couldn't you just do what he asked?
I did. By using Swanstation on RetroArch since he chimped out about the Duckstation core.

Not my fucking problem, since I can play my PSX titles with that core. He can be an Autismo chimping out for all I give a shit at this point.

Kek, I hope everyone keeps bitching at him about Linux related issues until he has a full blown meltie about it. Autistic devs like this tard are always one bad day away from nuking everything.

>>108087828
Surprised you don't have Tomb Raider 3-5 on there, but I can kind of understand why (good lord the console ports Save system blows ass).

>>108089844
>arch shitters ruining everything
>gatekeeping
``Well okay man, I wasn't exactly looking to do all this but I'm not the one to hate on something without trying it.''
``I'll read this and give it a try, but everyone kept telling me linux was so easy to use nowadays(?)''
``But you seem so adamant about arch over the other linux users, so you must be right.''
The writing of a turd world luser.

>>108087828
The only ones I see on this list I would think are still fun, would be the Twisted Metals, PaRappa the Rapper, and maybe Parasite Eve(though the big baby always filtered me). Nothing else seems worth wasting storage space for.

>>108084996
that's your mommy
you best listen

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>>108089952
>ugh why does linux have so many distros and user interfaces? they should just standardize on one so they can be popular like Windows 11 and MacOS.
>ugh, Yes the only reason I'm interested in Linux is because Windows has become dogshit and there's nothing I can do about it and I'm also too much of a stingy poorfag to just buy a Mac and give up on gaming
>ugh these linux devs are too white and hetero and some even hold problematic beliefs, we need to improve the diversity and bring in steering committees and codes of conduct so that our trans-sisters can feel safe
In time every dimwitted normie inevitably shows their true colors, incapable of realizing that Linux is the way it is for both good and bad because it's got freedom.

>>108089172
retard, i am telling you to emulate on a pc and then send the video output to a crt tv. or you could also use fpga. there is zero usecase for original ps hardware, it belongs in a museum. you also shouldnt drive a model A ford on the interstate, or use asbestos brakes on your car.

>>108089803
I just added the sed to my build script to entirely bypass the nag screen, I did it because for some reason it would pop up at each start with the latest version even after checking the remember my choice

Stenzek is based for proving that the Arch Dunning-Kruger effect is real.

>>108089747
That's not even what I asked, you imbecile.

>>108090215
>there is zero usecase for original ps hardware
how isn't there? people want to experience the thing on the original hardware it was made on

>>108090286
you would fail a blind a-b test with real ps1 and mister fpga

>>108090318
Sure, but I don't have a mister whereas I already have a hand-me-down PS1 that got chipped before I was even born.

>>108090286
I wouldn't want to go back to the inferior experience of the original hardware.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aetsSOfMRq0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POqy92edBSs

>>108090358
so just say you are poor, dont say ps1 hardware is superior to fpga or emulation

>>108090375
>I'm poor because I haven't bought some trinket I have no use for

>>108090366
I'd hardly call that inferior since the actual detail doesn't scale with resolution. When you play the games at their original resolutions, the number of vertices per square pixel is insane, whereas the games just look blocky as hell at higher resolutions imo

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>>108089672
no phoning home, just some file missing at build time

>>108090381
Nonsense. Watch the whole MGS video, especially the part outside the base. As soon as the resolution increases, holy shit. A ton of texture detail was there all along, and we couldn't see due to the console's pitiful resolution.

>>108090378
if mister is a trinket then so is ps1 and you apparently use that.
theres no shame in being poor, applaud you for utilizing what you had at hand, but lets not pretend you chose your hand me down ps1 because it is the best experience. you chose it because it was 20$, you already admitted

>>108090409
>and we couldn't see
You could always see them if you actually went up to them as is necessary during regular gameplay, instead of looking at them from a distance like in the video.

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>>108090424
>doesn't know where to place the dollar sign in English writing
>accuses me of being poor
By all means, project harder, Pablo.

>>108090444
Trips of trvth

>>108090366
fps fixes, anti-aliasing, quick load times because you're using SSD is the same game but not the same experience

>>108090358
not the point

>>108090464
Isn't gauging the use case pertinent?

>>108090265
>imbecile
>can't even figure out a simple pop-up window message
Okie dokie, stranger. Welcome to /g/.

>>108090471
good point, in fact i would also argue that it over-indexes on the proclivity of its ambivalence over time as a sum of its parts.

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Stenzek is a notorious lolcow in the emulator community, I still remember him from back during the PCSX2 debacle where he would just randomly jump into the help channel and ban people for asking questions he thought were stupid even when it had nothing to do with him or his side of the project. His definition of harassment was someone messaging him without giving him the proper level of respect, it got to the point the mods got fed up with him constantly whining about people harassing him so they tried to gate him off from the rest of the community. As a final middle finger he put adware in aetherSX2 and many of the ads had malware. He also got driven off by the dolphin team because he was so insufferable that no one wanted to work with him anymore.

I say all of this because it's clear this whole thing with him freaking out over the AUR is just attentionwhoring, that's also why he just randomly takes shots at nixOS even though no one from that community has said or done a thing to him. The best thing to do is just ignore him and keep patching out his bullshit, eventually he'll get bored and find something else to bitch about.

>>108090191
Normal healthy people do not think like this.

>>108087828
You can save space by turning bin/cue into CHD, and it'll still play just fine.

>>108089588
RetroArch has some pros, like not having a dozen individual emulators installed or having 90% of your settings apply to all cores so you don't have to setup each emulator individually. There's also universal RA (I know, /vr/ hates it) and shader support.

>>108085016
Terminally self-righteous would be an underrated way to describe these people.

>>108091005
Does CHD actually run OK on PS1? Decompressing that shit in real time sounds like it would be slow as hell.

>>108091225
Nevermind, I guess x-station doesn't support CHD. Initial search said it did, but then it turns out it doesn't. Fucking AI search results being wrong.

>>108087263
the problem is that people won't read and will bother him anyway

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>>108084970
Just jumpscare when people run unofficial builds, simple as

>>108084970
GPL is the ultimate cuck licence. It's like saying you can fuck her only if you share.

MIT chads know she's for the streets. Fuck her and don't give a shit. They can fuck someone else or stop.

Well I just switched from XEBRA to duck and I have to say duck wins.

>>108090676
>emulator community
why do mutts feel the need to call everything a "community"?

>>108091637
people who work on the same thing tend to talk with each other and trade ideas and know each other, what would you prefer to call this?

>>108091662
Industry

>>108091760
would imply there are companies involved and money being made

>>108084970
>>108085016
I thought loonix users cared about licenses

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>>108091662
>people who work on the same thing
I literally can't tell whether the term "community" refers to users, developers or both at the same time. But that's probably the point since calling yourself an "emulator programmer" explicitly would raise many more questions and LARP allegations than identifying yourself as a part of the "emulator community"

>>108089588
This. Retrofaggot seems to be popular because retards want everyone under one umbrella, which isn't always good. Stand alone is the way to go always has been.

>>108091637
>why do mutts feel the need to call everything a "community"?
Because as a great man once said, our culture is half judaized, half negrified.

>>108091662
circlejerk

>>108084970
Host an illegal fork on tor and ignore DMCA. Nobody can do shit

>>108091927
It isn't always good, but if some feature can be applied to every platform you want to use it on, it's already better than what you get with some standalone emulators which is fucking nothing.
Back in the early 2010s I had serious issues with emulation, because more than a few standalone emulators would have a fucking tizzy about my display not being set exactly to the same framerate the original platform had. Which resulted in issues like sound crackling or having to deal with tearing.
RA helped with that, latency issues, other display issues, and I found out firsthand that some people that claim their shit "just works" do so while ignoring what's broken. They just live in pure fucking mediocrity because "I can play it for free". Granted, some cores are just absolute garbage, there's been a whole mess with more modern platforms and N64 emulation (by the way I don't think any cores have ever been this unsafe https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqUYNYWPlpQ) but fuck me if I want to bother again with things like CRT_EmuDriver again without having something like RA available.

>>108089588
>>108091927
more brainlets filtered by RA. ya hate to see it

>>108092392
I'll never understand what's so complicated about RA compared to other emulators either. Just download a fucking core. That's one extra step. Is it because it doesn't have endless dropdown menus instead? Is it because it has too many settings?

>>108092408
ra is not complicated, it's just the systemd of emulators and smart people that know how that usually ends don't want to have anything to do with it

>>108092482
...with most people not knowing what the fuck linux without systemd is?

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>>108092408
i think the biggest problem is the default dogshit ugly gray theme. change it to the playstation one and it's much more intuitive.

my other big problem is that it never saves button mappings when i switch between controllers. i have 2 different 8bitdo controllers and i ALWAYS have to remap when i switch between them. i've searched around and it doesn't seem like there's a solution.

>>108092536
Huh, weird opinion. When the newer UI wasn't available, a lot of people were complaining about that PS3 one not being intuitive, which is why they designed the new more mouse friendly one.
I also find weird what you say about controllers because it should detect which controller you have and apply a different custom configuration. Granted you might have to manually save it as a custom config file for that controller, but it should load it automatically.

>>108092602
>>108092536
Also, are you using these 8bitdos in xinput mode? I'd recommend using switch mode instead. You get more available buttons.

>>108092602
>which is why they designed the new more mouse friendly one.
what one is that? if it's that gray one i described i don't see how that's intuitive with either mouse or controller. i remember downloading RA for the first time like a decade ago and that theme filtered me so hard i didn't touch it again until last year.

>>108092627
i never fucked around with the input mode so it's whatever the default is which i think is xinput. more available buttons isn't the problem, it's that my mappings are gone the second i unplug the controller despite having supposedly saving them. i'm not the only one with the problem.

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>>108086194
You can use Mendaffe s a front-end to Mednafen. Between that, running better, having multiple emulators aside from the PSX emulator and not beingmade by a retarded schizo, it's nothing but a benefit that Mednafen/Mednaffe exists

>>108092745
8bitdo controllers usually have a mode switch. Some need a combination of buttons to switch between modes (like the 8bitdo SN30 pro +) while newer ones usually have a switch in the back for android/switch/xinput modes (like the 8bitdo SN30 pro 2). Xinput has been designed for better compatibility on PC and analog trigger support, but switch mode on RetroArch gives you additional binds you can use and gyro support on applications like emulators or steam input.

I am honestly unsure why you're having trouble with the mappings, unless your configuration files are being set to read-only. I haven't used RA in a while (on the account that I haven't emulated anything in about a year) but I doubt that's something that's removed, so it has to be a bug. I'm telling you this because I had 2 of those controllers (8bitdo M30 and SN30 Pro+) and a Nacon fightstick, and they all had their bindings persist.
Are you somehow force quitting the program? I do remember RA not saving certain configurations if it crashes and I would guess if you don't quit through the menu like normal, it might not save files either. You should check around your config\remaps folder to see if any files change. Or check if you have set paths to save remaps properly in the settings, but by default it should point to a folder that's not read-only, so it still doesn't make much sense to me.

>>108092916
That is a WEAK imitation of zsnes' snow background.

>>108084970
Nigga is too poor to pay for a trademark
If he had the DuckStation trademark, he could EASILY force other distributions of his emulator to change their name which would solve the normie problem

>>108084970
Transitioning to AGPL instead of whatever CC-BY-DUMB and including a trademark exception fixes this.

>>108093568
He won't trademark it because he doesn't want to dox himself

>>108086165
enjoy getting raped by the license jew, goy
either do actual FOSS or drop all pretenses and go full proprietary

So this duckstation drama doesn't effect me on windows, correct?

>>108085622
unfathomably based, fuck nixtards

>>108093568
if his issue that people come to him for distro package issues, then will having a registered trademark help him if someone just scrubs the trademarks from his own repo and uses that code anyway?

i don't know how AUR works, i don't know the details of the drama and nobody seems to care about sharing the full details for some reason.

>>108087828
Fucking hell there's some memories there

>>108093790
the AUR will take the infringingly named package down as they have to by law once they get a smell of a lawyer

>>108084970
yeah, emudrama, give it to me, what are they up to now.

>>108093868
i don't think you understood my point.
anon was suggesting trademark protection as an alternative to the CACA-POOPOO-PEEPEE licence, to restrict derivative builds. this is often circumvented in open source software by scrubbing the trademarks, like RHEL, like Firefox, etc. the code itself would still be legally shareable, so no issue with lawyers there. my point is that if someone is retarded enough to submit distro package bug reports to upstream, then how likely is it that registering the trademark would help solve that issue anyway?

>>108087834
That's going to be true of Linux in general though. Really just sounds like he needs to put on his big boy pants and tell the users directly that are submitting bug reports/issues not to use AUR and instead do it manually. Though chances are, since AUR is going to pull all the deps from the same place the user will, manual builds will still have the same result. The real root of the issue is people treating a rolling release distro like a stable distro. There's a reason I run Bazzite on my gaming PC despite running Arch on everything else in my home. Shit like that often relies on very specific lib versions and other bullshit where you have to basically recreate exactly the environment the dev built it on.

>>108088323
Tom Raider games got a face lift on PC not that long ago anyway. There are very few games worth playing on the PS1, very few. And most of the ones that are worth playing are on PC and have remasters or mods that make them miles better than the low poly retrofaggot slop.

>>108093961
the dev doesn't have a problem with code sharing he has a problem with normies googling the upstream and bitching that their differently packaged duckstation is not working right
as for the company code usage AGPLv3 or plain GPLv3 with anti tivoization clause built in solves this

>>108094001
>the dev doesn't have a problem with code sharing he has a problem with normies googling the upstream and bitching that their differently packaged duckstation is not working right
i get that. so registering the trademark would solve all of his issues, because nobody would be allowed to share modified builds and a knock-off fork with a different name will simply appear as a base for distro packages?
>as for the company code usage AGPLv3 or plain GPLv3 with anti tivoization clause built in solves this
nigga you're really struggling to follow what i'm saying, aren't you. i wasn't talking about this at all.

>>108094131
you know how you can't modify and build firefox and still call it firefox and use its logos right? that's how it would work
the normie would google poopoostation and get the poopoostation upstream or nothing at all to bitch at
>nigga you're really struggling to follow what i'm saying, aren't you. i wasn't talking about this at all.
just prepending the conversation

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>>108093510
>(8bitdo M30 and SN30 Pro+)
that's what i have, except regular SN30 meant for the SNES but it works fine wired

>Are you somehow force quitting the program?
i do, alt+f4 every time. i'll try pic related. and now that i see the text about saving configs i'm going to be so fucking pissed if that is what is causing it lmao. but at least i'll have the basis of writing up a bug. i'll also try switching to switch input and see if that does anything

>>108086960
Anon got confused. dr.hell is Japanese, it's Stenzek that is Aussie.

>>108093973
If somebody installs your software with apt or pacman you can at least download the exact binary that has the bug (assuming it's the binary that's fucked and it's not some kind of interaction with the environment). If somebody installs it from the AUR or Homebrew or builds it manually then they have their own bespoke binary that's potentially different from everyone else's.

>>108084970
>creator tells people not to do things how they done it for decades for hundreds of other software packages
>surprised they don't cater to your special snowflake demands

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>>108092916
I like mine

>>108095268
That's pretty neat

>>108091580
toxic positivity is the problem, you should be able to just tell people like that to kill themselves and move on but nooooo everyone is hecking equal and deserves hecking equal recognition

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>>108086298
why the fuck did I sleep on this game for all these years,
it is GOOD

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>>108084970
Winchads keep dunking on linux

To be fair I dont really know the solution to making MSI installers on linux.

Does flatpak even do this? Flathub needs to add some sort of portable installer option.

Appimage is fine I guess. Linux should only be appimage/flatpak from now on. Sure you can still use apt or pacman but they should be considered legacy at this point. Flatpak already had discord, steam, spotify. Its open source and its easy to use with bazaar or discover.

In all other aspects flatpak besides portability is a complete improvement over windows way of installing software. If I'm wrong someone correct me. To me I've never kept offline installers but I guess some people do and appimage can fill that gap but it really should just be one packaging solution.

Its sandboxed, same runtimes on every single linux distro, reproducible

>>108085378
Build scripts aren't copyrightable anyway

>>108096393
>>Does flatpak even do this? Flathub needs to add some sort of portable installer option.
This exists. Flatpaks can be distributed as portable installers.

>>108096405
why not?

>>108096707
It is said that purely functional code may not be copyrighted.
https://www.iusmentis.com/copyright/software/protection/
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34186546

>>108091030
It's only worth it for Cloud Saves on Steam. Being able to put your saves on Steam is a huge boon versus doing it via Dropbox/et. al.

>>108095268
I wish more than the Duckstation (sorry, sorry: "Swan"station) core allowed the BIOS bootup in RetroArch. I ran Zone of the Enders 1 yesterday on the PCSX2 core (sorry, sorry: "LRPS2") and it didn't have the crystals into PS2 logo.

>>108096932
On my Playstation Classic I get the white SCEI animation on hardware power on, and then I get the black PS logo animation on game boot via Retroarch.

>>108085163
He's right in that regard. I'd say Fedora and the new gaming oriented distros based off it are in third place.

>>108097271
It's honestly amazing how retarded some of the niggers on the Fedora forum are

>>108088928
>Windows 7 users will inherit the earth.
If by that you mean once the world ends it'll be 'safe' to run win 7 (for a given value of safe) sure.

>>108096405
irrelevant. it just serves as a licence notice to the source code, to which copyright does apply.