>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICEPost build list or current specs: https://pcpartpicker.com/Provide specific use cases and your BUDGET and COUNTRY>CASEmATX: AP201, Lian Li A3, O11 Air Mini, XT M3, CH260ATX: XT PRO (ULTRA), AIR 903 Base/MAX, Lancool 207, Flux Pro, Meshify 3, 4000D FRAME, X50Dual Chamber: Y60/70, O11 Vision, Antec C8>CPUGaming: 14600K, 7/9600X, 7/9800X3DBudget: 12400, 12600K, 7500FWorkstation: 265K, 9950X3D*Multiple manufacturers reporting issues on AM5 platforms. Do your research.*On Raptor Lake microcode is mandatory>COOLERAIO: Thermalright Frozen Edge, Lian Li Galahad II Lite, Corsair Nautilus RS, Cooler Master Atmos, Liquid Freezer 3/Pro (Bad mounting solution)ITX/>42mm RAM: Mugen 6 Dual Fan, AXP120-X67TIM: MX-7, MX-4, Duronaut, *PTM 7950, Kryosheet*Most listings online are not actually 7950>RAMDDR5: 2x16GB 6000CL30 (AM5), 6400CL32 (LGA 1700)Workstation: 2x 32GB (budget.), 2x64GB (high-end)>SSD (Keep firmware updated)Budget: SN7100, NM790High-end: SN850X, 990 Pro (Windows)Premium: SN8100https://borecraft.com/>GPUBudget: Arc B580, 9060xt-Used: 2080, 2080ti*8gb has become a major constraint even at 1080pMidrange: 5060ti 16GB, 9070, 5070-Used: 3080, 3080ti, 4070 (~$380)4k : 5070ti, 9070xt-Native/High-end: 5090>PSUBuying guide:https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/>MONITOR1080p: 24" 165/180hz, KTC H25X71440p: 27" 165/180hz IPS, KTC M27T6 (miniLED), ASUS XG27AQWMG (WOLED but not yet in stores)4K: KTC M27P6 (miniLED)*Pulsar release soon, consider waiting if you've an Nvidia GPU.>OSActivate Windows @ >>>/g/fwt>CASE FANSMeta: Case with good stock PWM fansMidrange: Arctic P12 Pro, P14 Pro (5-pack, loud @ higher RPM)High-end: Fractal Momentum, Noctua G2 (140mm or 120mm)Previous: >>108084847
These stickys are mostly copypasta, /pcbg/ couldn't organize itself if it tried.Assless chaps are no longer mandatory. Nipple pasties are right out, do not wear them now.>News & RumorsMemory situation unlikely to get better until at least 2027New DLSS presets using DLSS 4.5, M and L (specifically for ultra-performance). Performance hit consistently significant on Turing and Ampere GPUs, potential for issues on ada and low end blackwell6x and dynamic framegen coming in the springG-Sync PulsarARC B390PSU and CPU cooler prices may rise up to 10% soon>PSU Reviewshttps://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplieshttps://www.lttlabs.com/https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-suppliesFor tier-list enjoyers:https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/>Storage Reviewshttps://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.htmlhttps://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSDhttps://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews>Monitor Hunterhttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1illeNLsUfZ4KuJ9cIWKwTDUEXUVpplhUYHAiom-FaDo/>Other helpful LinksMobomaps, currently only lists a selection of AM5 boards but is being actively updated : https://mobomaps.com/A PC build guide : https://igwiki.lyci.de/wiki/Build_a_PCGerman autism : https://www.igorslab.de/en/Monitor reviews : https://www.rtings.com/A /pcbg/ for every use case and budget!Say No To Bullying ITT: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwatnrbwEnQ
I love my 5090 because it is guaranteed to last for 4 more years. What a value.
>>108089084>valueShould last you 10 - if it doesn't catch fire first.>you best keep an eye on them power connections, anon.
>>108089023Look at the wood grain in that office, so kino. Why don’t they make stuff like that anymore?
>>108089099mine doesnt even get warm when running 800W through it
>>108089116it looks cheap
>>108089124what ikea does to a mf
>>108089127table looks expensive, walls look cheap
>>108089131old as picture and real wood always looks good.
>>108089116wood homes burn easy and get raped by hurricanes
>>108089138I think it's plywood
>>108089141murica stan problems.
>>108089124I mean it probably is just stained pine, but I like the vibe they’re going for.>>108089141That’s just paneling though, you could still do a brick exterior.
>>108089151kyoani building was made up of wood and it burned faster
are there new intel desktop cpus on the horizon?
i like the 70s music studio style>>108089292the 14900k is as good as it gets
>>108089292Core ultra 9 290K+ got cancelled but the core ultra 7 270K (basically a cheaper 285K) will be launching soon-ishNext-gen novalake core ultra 300K series cpus are launching end of this year
>>108089307I can see your dark skin in your reflection.
>>108089307>posting endless 5070ti fudis this what naturally follows after spending your life savings on a gpu that's slower than nvidia's 4th fastest gpu
>>108089307
>>108089296SOVL old analog audio tech
>>108089357anytime something like that happens, its because amd's drivers are broken and aren't rendering some graphical effects causing missing shadows, blurry textures, wrong lighting etc.>t. oldfag knower
>>108089357>in the only game that matters.
fukken EMI cockblocking was not expected in my build.>old: mouse dongle just works under desk>new: stutter if not line of sightsame fucking mouse dongle both systems.
>>108089357the only game that matters is dota 2 and it runs on 10 years old hardware
>>108089357Lovely cherry picked chart, anon. Now show us todays market shares.
post your safe numbersI havent tried to raise the mem clock further because I want to change the psu first to run benchmarks, but these numbers never crashed in 2 months gaming
>>108089410it should have fast timing, idk why it ticked off, turned it back on
How restricted is the rest of my build by my RAM?My brain is very small but it was big enough to buy some DDR-5 before the prices started getting dumb because I found a good deal on black friday.Other than it being DDR-5 and thus I want an AM5 board if I'm understanding right. Is there any other restrictions or compatibility in place based on the specific RAM I got that I should keep in mind when picking GPU, CPU, etc?
>>108089410>>108089410I know for a fact you're losing a lot of performance with that aggressive of a power limit and only a -50 offset. Do -15% -20 max
>>108089357>>108089403Any anon that takes advice from 4chan shilling is a fool. The market speaks for itself. https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/videocard/
>>108089439How about you post it, idiot. Specs or pics or links.
>>108089484intel bros...
Any anon that takes advice from steamcharts is a fool. The benchmark speaks for itself.
>>108089477>my GPU isn't listed in the pictureFeels bad man...
>>108089501mine isn't on the whole list. it's the rarest of them all. keep your npc registry to yourself. your surveillance survey. your botnet.
More than a year since shartwell came out and frametime spikes and stutters on popular UE5 games still not fixed.
>>108089508>*tips fedora*
The Canadian tranny jeet is upset he didn't make the OP so xe's trying to spam again lolPosts the same images over and overIf mods were smart they'd md5 filter this retard
>>108089501>>108089508Whats interesting is that Intel is creeeepiing up the charts.Whats AMD got in the bag? Why are their pro cards not being used for /gayming/? They have at least a 5080 tier card in the pro lineup somewhere, no?
>>1080895139070xt is 61% as fast as the 5070ti
>>108089535>>108089229
>>108089546We know shillanon, thats why it says:>>108089023>>GPU>Budget: Arc B580, 9060xt>-Used: 2080, 2080ti>*8gb has become a major constraint even at 1080p>Midrange: 5060ti 16GB, 9070, 5070>-Used: 3080, 3080ti, 4070 (~$380)>4k : 5070ti, 9070xt>-Native/High-end: 5090>in the fuckken sticky.
>>108089546What's the player count for black myth wukong right now on steam? Radeon is better in games people actually play everyday. No one cares about your shitty movie games
>>108089490corsair vengeance DDR5 32GB (2x16) 6000MHz
>>108089023Lord jesus is king
>>108089572What are the following numbers (timings) or full model#?For now 6000mhz is on par for AMD AM5
>>10808958734-44-44-96
>>108089306then I guess I'll ride out the price explosions until next year. the doomer way a lot of the trillion dollar companies are talking about AI adoption has me hoping for stability by 2027-2028... I'll buy a nice monitor instead or some peripherals or audiophile shit.
>>108089439>>108089572>>108089601That's decent ram, though probably too slow for intel CPUs and non-3d AMD ryzen which are more affected by ram timings than Ryzen 3d CPUs. If you pick a 9800x3d/9850x3d or 9950x3d, that ram won't be a bottleneck in any way
>>108089562>No one caresabout your brandwarring faggotry.Here, have a (you), does that make the butthurt any better?How about Linux performance where your amdshilling has proven that - oh dear, oh, sorry, first maybe lets have a look at what the guys said over at phoronix, shall we? But they must not know shit about anything.>right anons?
>>108089560the op is not a stickygo back retarded nigger
>>108089630>Nvidijeets are trying to trick people into buying geforce for Linux nowDisgusting you're just as bad as the nicotroonhttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=URbW3j_GYKgThis is the nvidia experience on Linux. A lot of the games didn't even work and when they did a 30% performance loss compared to windows. Complaining about dishonest brand warring and then doing the exact same thing takes a crazy lack of self awareness
>>108089622Thanks. I was a CPU I was aiming for anyways so hopefully it'll work outHypothetically if I have to go with a lower CPU (like a 7XXX X3D or not even an X3D as a placeholder) what would happen? would the PC just not turn on, or just run somewhat less efficiently?
>>108089687i am driven only by facts. raw performance is performance, the same as performance-per-watt is performance, arguably performance per shekel counts too. whatever anon needs to get a /pcbg/ going.>>108089687>gamesassuming all people do is play games is a rather narrow view, shillanon, and until (kek) the steam console (another console-ation win for amd!) changes things linux is a tiny market for /gaymers/ since all the normies use windows or some faggot console.the only things i'm shilling are facts. IDGAF what anons buy as long as they spend their shekels wisely and have some keks. buy all the power you can afford, kids, it's more fun that way.
>>1080897017000x3d has the same indifference to memory performance as 9000x3dIf you go with a non-3d CPU, you'll lose performance in CPU heavy games
If I'm looking to buy an 5080/5090 what are the brands I should only be looking for? FE, Asus, Gigabyte, MSI?
>>108089751>nigger cattle uses windowsyeah thanks. knew that already.
>>108089760Brand doesn't matter it depends on the model within the brandThere are tiers within each brand and the cheapest are hotter and louderConsult poweruptech website for charts on temp and noise
>>108089701If you just have RAM look for a CPU+motherboard deal on NeweggThere's some good shit on there
>>108089777But of course there's different models with different tiers of noise levels and power. It's so defeating when you want to make a PC but there's these obstacles of knowledge beforehand. Thank you.
or techpowerup if your not pic related like >>108089777>poweruptech
>>108089834
>>1080897605080 FE is fine but 5090 FE is too loud and hot. also msi's ventus and shadow are really bad so you should avoid those two models.5090 pushes the connector to its limits so its best you get a thermalgrizzly wireview pro ii to monitor the connector current draw and set an automatic shutdown for when it runs far out of spec. 5080 doesnt use that much power so this isnt really a problem
>>108089759Alright ty. I'm def going for at least an X3D processor then.>>108089786Might just do that or at least start perusing, I like bundles where I can make use of all the stuff in it. I'm trying to get a GPU locked down first so I can see what I have left after to budget the rest of the build out depending on what I get and how much it costs.
>>108089834I'm slightly stoned, that happens thanks for correcting>>108089812Obviously with the RAM situation you're going to be paying more than normal and the quieter and cooler models will be a few hundred dollars more than the base/worst modelI.e. worst models are MSI Ventus, ASUS Prime, etcI'd stick to MSI/Asus/Gigabyte imo but if you want to try the others you might regret the warranty If I had the chance to buy a GPU in November I would've gotten the ASUS Noctua 5080 but I settled on a 5070 Ti in early December -- I didn't want to pay $700 more for a 15% bump in performance but goddamn that Noctua model would've paired perfectly with my PC
>Midrange nvidiots when they find out the 5070 ti they bought is a cut down defective 5080 chip with dead SMS>9070 XT is full navi 48 chip with no defects and made with better TSMC node + more transistors>They could have gotten a better chip buying a cheaper card
>>108089875>>108089926It sounds like I'll be getting a 5080 because the 5090 sounds like it only gives you more issues when I'm not really the type that knows how to build compatible parts together as a whole either way. I would have looked to snipe a 5090 for a little cheaper than they go right now anyways. As long as you can smoothly play 4k games on a 5080 it's good enough for me, I just want something that'll be able to run games on high quality for the next 5 or so years. Honestly if you wouldn't mind or other anons here it'd be nice if someone could build me a PC on pcpartpicker. Budget would be around $5000-5500 but ideally the less the better of course.
>>108089122Check the Hotspot temps.
>>108089932Submit your will to lord jesus >>108089574 and repent for your sins
>>108089926>slightlylightweight>that Noctua model would've paired perfectly with my PCit sucks to be /poor/
>>108089935>As long as you can smoothly play 4k gamesJust remember. The 1080 was sold as a 4k card.
Report all flamewarring, trolling, spamming posts. Long live /pcbg/!Post your /pcbg/ anyway but know that we have enraged the amdshitposter to the degree that he has vowed to shit up this thread with trash with the goal of killing it.Spotting the shitposters: the shitposters may be working at gunpoint in a bot farm, paid shill/bot farm, lone schizo, etc. the shitposters rarely ever just tags the OP and asks for it to be updated or changed as asked for in the second part of the sticky. they also resort to things like ad hominem, racism, cherry picked benchmarks, false information, etc. and one of my favorite things is the lone post tagging no one but responding to some previous reply to whatever argument it felt it was losing or with a one-liner just to flood the vapid minds of the unwashed masses with <specific vendors products>. the shitposters necropost old tropes to flood the threads and bump post counts e.g. random garbage questions that any /noob/ would just google or disingenuous descriptions of problems that are copypasta with a few words changed in them. Single line, low-quality posts are often the copypasta. Most recently the OP appears to be trying a super stealth approach - creating the OP with only "subtle" alterations like "-Avoid Nvidia Due To Possible Melting Connectors & Driver Problems", and griefing /g/ by creating and self deleting the thread after a short while.remain vigilant, /pcbg/, report in silence, and above all - have fun.
So I'm having an absolutely wild problem that I doubt anyone here has seen but who knows. >Intel b60>Boot to Windows or Linux (tried both) with iGPU >After a bit of time, GPU starts to coil whine >Maybe 10 second on 10 off If I plug a cable into the GPU instead I'm addition to igpu so it's outputting video instead of doing nothing, the whine goes away>Unplug GPU video>It's backAny ideas? Do I just buy a dummy video dongle thing? Like this seems like a driver issue
>>108089932The entire navi 48 is defective for how overclocked out of the gate it is just to reach 5070ti, clearly outside of the optimal efficiency curve.
>It's another episode of pcbg tards pretending to be computer scientists calling chips "defective" and talking about "optimal efficiency curves" when they don't know shit about either of these things
>>108090064
>>108090046Your own chart shows an rdna 4 card being more efficient than every Blackwell gpu except 5080 retard
>>108089946Dude I'm not poor. I just know spending an extra $700-800 for aesthetics at that time was stupid. Plus, my MSI Trio pairs perfectly with my MSI Carbon motherboard. My OCD would be slightly off since ASUS, not MSI, got to partner with Noctua. That and I was also panic buying in early December so I didn't spend as much time as I would have to keep up to speed.Plus I'm old enough that I'm not gaming nearly as much as I did 10 years ago. Getting old sucks.
>>108089292bartlett lakebut not for you
>>108090077Then AMD should've swallow its pride and run all 9070xt at 9070 speeds, being 7% slower instead of 5% slower than 5070ti isn't much different so at least they can earn the efficiency award.
>>108090033something is obviously wrong with memory clock on idle when not outputting?sounds like when you'd idle at 500fps in videogame menus in the past without putting a hard fps cap, it would cause the memory to shit itself? Or was it core clock? I'm too tipsy tonight but this seems like deja vu
>>108090098So is seems to have some sort of power saving thing because with hwinfo in Windows it does not even report all sensors till something is plugged in (like the temp sensors all show zero) but it does get warm so like you are saying obviously it's doing something
Does this fan curve look good to you?
How do I know if you means me?
>>108090163What are you cooling?CPU with an AIO?
