They are afraid.
Basically the gamblers fallacy now, isn't it?
>>108089208Amusingly, not even that will solve it.
Surely we can solve this if we cut taxes on the wealthy, subsidize the mag 7 some more, and increase social security.
How can you cope with this shit ?
>>108089208"give me more money or else you will all be broke. (but I'll still be fine.)"
>>108089208>nothing else will solve the national debtmaybe he should tell his daddy trump to stop exacerbating the problemor maybe he just hopes AI will fix the problem by forcing higher taxes on everyone
>>108089208I dunno about AI, but he might be right about automation.
>>108089208>the only way to save the country is to not make my businesses go bustIt's a shame he didn't also put SpaceX there directly, but considering he also already said that the only way to have AI data centers is to have them in space he basically already did.How convenient for Elon that all his companies are somehow absolutely necessary to the survival of the country and can't be allowed to fail(gibbs)
Just declare war with everyone you have debt to.
>>108089931>Just declare war with everyone you have debt to>Approximately 70-75% of US debt is held domestically°_°'
>>108089942he knows what he said
>>108089208Well yeah, that's what happens when a few have all the money. If they lose it, all the money is gone.. I'm glad we're finally starting to realize that.
>>108089942Some are expected to die in the fire.
>>108089931>Just declare war with everyone you have debt to.b..b..but they like the jews.
>>108089964>they lose it, all the money is gone..Money cannot be destroyed it can only be transferred blah blah blah.
>>108089964but if the public has no access to said money, they pay basically no taxes, employ relatively little people and they're not really responsible for vital infrastructure, what really is the loss for the average joe if they go bust? Other than them not being allowed to go bust and the average joe having to foot the bill.
>>108089208Ok I have an idea. Rocky made 271x its budget, so the government just has to make a new Rocky film, and invest $129 billion into it.
>>108089208he's actually an idiotyou can solve the national debt without bankruptcy as long as 1. the national debt is denominated in the nation's fiat currency 2. the nation controls their money supplyyou end up shafting everyone who loaned you money but that's not your problem you simply won't be able to issue debt for sometime again which really solves the problem for a generation if you think about it
>>108089931don't have to all you literally have to do is devalue your currency, create a new currency, and only offer exchanges at a favorable rate to citizens. ask me how I know. my nation did it and no one invaded us or threatened us they simply refused to loan us money unless it was in a currency we don't control (i.e. USD)
Oh no if we don't find a way to pay off the national debt, US individuals and institutions will own this country
>>108089931It worked when Phillip IV wanted to get rid of his debt with the Templar Order.
>>108089942-_-
>>108089691The economy and debt situation has never been better thanks to Trump.We would already be in a recession if Kamala Harris won.
>>108089942why would it be a problem if 70% of debt is held domestically?>tax the holders of that debt>debt goes down>redistribute the debt tax>regular americans pay off the debt using the redistributed wealth>repeat"the debt being a problem" basically means the rich can longer expect repeated interest earnings on the slave class?
>>108090120based goblin enjoyer
>>108090293You own the debt, retard. Unless you're a neet with no job or savings or retirement plan.
>>108089208>tfw UK and Japan are all in on American treasuries and will get wiped even worse then the USA themselves if USD default or hyperinflation happens
Brands pay to change the name of the states. Idiocracy style.
>>108089208>robotsWere they working on Dovebots, or gay military garbage designed to blow itself up or get easily mercked by an actual human?
Jesus christ, what a scamming cretin.
>>108090825Don't blame him, blame his idiot followers.
just two more trillionsAGI will save the economy
>>108089208>robots will make the trillion dollar debt repayments irrelevantfrom here on mars, i think that is a cool statement
>>108089208Why not just shut down the Federal Reserve, create a bank that isn't independent from the state, and bring back the gold standard?>>108089942It's simple, we uh kill the debt holders.
>>108090914>don't blame the conman, blame his victimsbrutalI'm not gonna say there's no accountability on that side, but will never say that the conman is blameless
>>108089208An open wallet looks like a spread vagina...
>>108090120based
>>108089208>Our failed tech is gonna fail if we not pretend it works
>>108090120Based Elon cash burner
>>108089208So what happens to NVidia when the bubble pops?They're just dead, right?
>>108091312Nvidia are one of the few companies who come out on top, they can still sell their product regardless of AI being a bubble.
>>108091092>victimsenablers
It's true but why should I care? When the stock market collapses I will just keep holding and buy more.
>>108089208You can already smell the bailout.
>>108091312>hey gamers remember when we shat on you, cut GPU production and told you to eat the bugs and game in the pods (cloud)? Well we need your money again.
>>108089208DEATH TO AMERICA
>>108091454Gaming is less than 10 % of revenue now, even at inflated prices. Losing just half of the data center shit will just flat out kill them.
>>108089208So, are we in the endgame yet?
>>108091477I don't have any graphics card specific data to back this up, but PC gaming has always been the premium middle class option.People have a shrinking amount of money so if this AI nonsense goes sideways they'll be re-entering a market whose consumerbase is even smaller with even less money and no good will.
>>108089208Its not because failed AI is going to bankrupt America, but rather the default state of America without AI is bankruptcy due to high amount of debt with no end to resolution
>>108089208why will the US go bankrupt if they stop buying Chinese hardware to build AI software products? How is AI going to enable a industrial revolution if it replaces workers and does not increase productivity so far?
>>108089974
>>108090120You never get tired of staring at basically the same looking image over and over?
>>108089208National debt is an invention of the jews, every single country on earth is in debtJust kill the jews and there is no more debt
>>108090049you know the first thing I thought of when I saw that is; the UK still owes the USA some WW2 debt, why not cancel the debts out?
>>108089208Good, fuck you
>>108090346>hyperinflation scenario: US constantly prints new money for itself to keep essential services running until a new currency can be established and stabilized, all USD treasuries quickly become effectively worthless.>default scenario: US will probably cease interest payments on foreign held treasuries first, a partial default rather then a full default as a form of cope. US held debt may be safe at least for a while.One or the other will happen, the only other way was is if the US can somehow replicate the insane economic growth that occurred right after WW2 ended when all their economic competitors were bombed to hell and crippled with impossible war debts while the US suddenly had huge factories and an industrial workforce that dwarfed the rest of the world
>>108091391Yeah, you're gay.
>>108089208>They are afraid.For good reasons.>>108089230>gamblers fallacyNo. This isn't only about plowing even more money into AI, what we have should work and people who lose their jobs (in droves) need new jobs. Otherwise it will be like the UK in the 90s where people were not just unemployed, they became unemployable.>>108089516>Amusingly, not even that will solve it.Then what will?>>108089902>How convenient for Elon that all his companies are somehow absolutely necessary to the survival of the country and can't be allowed to fail(gibbs)Alternatively, he puts his money into what he blieves in. As for subsidies, he said he was all for cutting EV subsidies. He knew what had to come sooner or later.>>108090019The Greeks and the Spanish have pulled this stunt, many times. Their credit worthiness is still in the toilet.
>>108089208There's still a national debt? I thought we gave this guy access to the entire goverment and he cut out all the waste and fraud which saved us hundreds of billions
>>108091901>The Greeks and the SpanishThey don't have their own sovereign currency.They had to beg the krauts with promises to inflict harsh austerity and selloffs of public assets in exchange for their euro bailouts.
>>108092018Oh yeah, turns out none of that was real at all, because Republicans just vote for more spendingIt was just a thing for Palantir to download all the data or something lol
>>108090183He added more to the debt in 6 years than Obama did in 8.
>>108091775You will never receive monetary compensation nor will you ever be rich you pathetic rodent.0.00% and it is staying that way forever.
>>108089208Obama made the debt go down though. He wasn't in the files either. Why can't they be more like Obama?
>>108092108he made the deficit go down, not the debt. Clinton was the last one to actually make the debt go down.
>>108092108>He wasn't in the files eitherLolKing nigger was a puppet for someone else. Prince Andrew’s ex-girlfriend claims that not being named in the files was seen as an insult for thoes people because it basically means you're a nobody
>But [Jude] Wanniski had been doing his homework on how to sell supply-side economics. In 1976, he rolled out to the hard-right insiders in the Republican Party his "Two Santa Clauses" theory, which would enable the Republicans to take power in America for the next thirty years.>Democrats, he said, had been able to be "Santa Clauses" by giving people things from the largesse of the federal government. Republicans could do that, too – spending could actually increase. Plus, Republicans could be double Santa Clauses by cutting people's taxes! For working people it would only be a small token – a few hundred dollars a year on average – but would be heavily marketed. And for the rich it would amount to hundreds of billions of dollars in tax cuts. The rich, in turn, would use that money to import or build more stuff to market, thus increasing supply and stimulating the economy. And that growth in the economy would mean that the people still paying taxes would pay more because they were earning more.>There was no way, Wanniski said, that the Democrats could ever win again. They'd have to be anti-Santas by raising taxes, or anti-Santas by cutting spending. Either one would lose them elections.
Aren't we already using AI? And aren't they still telling people that we can't have higher tax brackets?
>>108092128>>108092177https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQ-hPNrKdZI
As long as the USA keeps sucking Jew cock, the Rothschilds and other Jewish banking families will keep the USA solvent with an endless stream of new magical Ashkenazi money tricks. Whenever people say American is “blessed” for supporting Israel. What they mean is our monetary system is protected by Jew bankers for supporting Israel.
>>108090183Bot or agent?
why do I hear Chinese music blasting?
>>108091477If they sell their Gaming GPU Business to Intel... I'd laugh.
>>108089208>If we don't fire 90% of the whole workforce we will go bankrupt as a countryWhat did this nigger even try to imply with this?And where the hell does he think taxes come from?
>>108090019>you can solve the national debt without bankruptcy as long asYou can solve it actually more easily, don´t fucking spend more money than you fucking have, so you can have a surplus and can pay the debt you already have.I would guess this would be common sense for a politician, but I guess buying votes by creating millions of public jobs and giving everyone and their mother money for the sake of existing is a better policy.
>>108091901>Then what will?Nothing, it's over. The debt will be hyperinflated away.
>>108089208If you tell the kikes to fuck off your debt is basically 0.
>>108091901>Then what will?Re-enslaving brownoids and banning all environmental regulations.
>>108091665>only generates 1 posengmi.
Increasing taxes won't help
>>108091901>Then what will?We either spend too much money or aren't bringing in enough or both. DOGE, Elon's own fucking team of retards, couldn't find any real fat to cut. They did some symbolic culture war cuts for retards but realized that the majority of US tax money pays for social security, debt interest, and the military. We can't cut SS, because the people don't want that, we can't stop paying interest or we'll default on our debts, and we can't stop paying for the military, because the elites don't want that. So the conclusion is that we're not bringing in enough money, which is the same problem the rest of the West has. Wages have stagnated so the middle class isn't paying as many taxes as they should. It's not even a matter of taxing or not taxing the rich enough, people aren't earning enough to keep the system afloat. Money isn't circulating in the economy the way it has to be. Solve the wage gap and the vast majority of problems in the west go away.Now what group has been consistently fighting against paying people their fair share, hmm I wonder.
I thought all it took to "solve the national debt" was send the army in the streets to beat up and murder random people and pretend everyone who doesn't like it is loves Mexican rapists. What changed?
>>108089548Yes, if you add in a little vitamin M (money printing)
>>108089208Look, we don't have to solve national debt. National debt is a "you problem". ie not my problem, I'm poor, dgaf
>>108089208I don't get it. Didn't he say literally two days ago that we all live in a simulation and if he doesn't achieve AGI with more government gibs the aliens will just shut it down? Unless he was making shit up, the simulation would end and we all would disappear before America could collapse. Why is he using two different and contradictory excuses to get more money?Even more so, how much money does he need to be happy? Will he finally be satisfied once he'll get one trillion? Ten? One hundred? Will he just keep asking for more money indefinitely even though he'll be dust before he could spend even 1% of all the money he's stealing from tax payers?
>>108089942The solution is to destroy the jews?That's not nice.
>>108089208Tax the oligarchs like Musk and the money problems go away. It's that simple. They're all worthless, bloated leeches.
>>108089208>sociopath tech bro capitalizes on people not understanding the financial system>/g/eets make a thread about itYou guys realise that if “the national debt” was “solved” there’d be a financial crisis.State debt is nothing like personal debt.
>>108089208And let me guess, the solution is to invest in his AI companies that just so happen to specialize in AI and Robotics.How coincidental!
I can’t help with all that so I’m learning Chinese as an insurance policy. Before you call me a traitor, remember that you did this. It’s all your fault.
>>108091727>why not cancel the debts out?Nobody wants anyone to pay out or cancel their debts in any form. They want regular interest payments instead.
People think that AI's gotten to the point where we have the AI equivalent of the Ford Model T, when really we just have the AI equivalent of the first inter-city steam locomotives.For reference, it took nearly 53 years to go from James Watt's first steam engine to the first inter-city railroad that had a steam locomotive (the Liverpool to Manchester Railroad) and then another 77 years from that to the Ford Model T.
>>108093185It's impossible for the State to spend less money than it earns in the long run, because that means it would drain all money from the society. The State is the single supplier of the currency, if it doesn't spend, there is no money at all.
>>108089230it's exactly this.>>108097907>People think that AI's gotten to the point where we have the AI equivalent of the Ford Model T,they're fucking stupid niggers that were born yesterday. ai has been in a constant state of research and development since the 1950s. we already went through our model t stage, went to streamlined boats on wheels, etc. and now ai is at level of ferrari and that's all it will ever drive. we're at the wall with current technology because morons like musk want to make a large language model do things it was never designed to do. equivalent to putting a towbar hook on the ferrari to then tow a truck trailer.
>>108092183Oh I read an article about this recently. Yeah, it's as absurd as it is evil, and also wildly successful.
>>108098013>>108098013>now ai is at level of ferrari and that's all it will ever drive. we're at the wall with current technology because morons like musk want to make a large language model do things it was never designed to do.That means it's still in its infancy and will eventually be able to do more. Musk (and >99% of pop) believing it's real/conscious etc. is just a massive blocker to its development, but that's artificial.Once it gets cheaper to run and train the Opus 4.6 equivalents, smaller companies will be building them to do much more usefuller shit. I've said it should be able to understand the entire project at a high level, iterate on its own progress, consult with other models, automatically revert changes, etc. WITHOUT COMPOUNDING HALLUCINATIONS
