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previous: >>108055083

READ THE (temp)WIKI! & help by contributing:
https://igwiki.lyci.de/wiki/Home_server

/hsg/ is about learning and expanding your horizons. Know all about NAS? Learn virtualization. Spun up some VMs? Learn about networking by standing up a OPNsense/PFsense box and configuring some VLANs. There's always more to learn and chances to grow. Think you’re god-tier already? Setup OpenStack and report back.

>What software should I run?
Install Gentoo. Or whatever flavor of *nix is best for the job or most comfy for you. Jellyfin/Emby/Plex to replace Netflix, Nextcloud to replace Googlel, Ampache/Navidrome to replace Spotify, the list goes on. Look at the awesome self-hosted list and ask.

>Why should I have a home server?
De-botnet your life. Learn something new. Serving applications to yourself, your family, and your frens feels good. Put your tech skills to good use for yourself and those close to you. Store their data with proper availability redundancy and backups and serve it back to them with a /comfy/ easy to use interface.

>Links & resources
Cool stuff to host: https://github.com/awesome-selfhosted/awesome-selfhosted
https://reddit.com/r/datahoarder
https://www.reddit.com/r/homelab/wiki/index
https://wiki.debian.org/FreedomBox/Features
ARM-based SBCs: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1PGaVu0sPBEy5GgLM8N-CvHB2FESdlfBOdQKqLziJLhQ
Low-power x86 systems: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1LHvT2fRp7I6Hf18LcSzsNnjp10VI-odvwZpQZKv_NCI
SFF cases https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1AddRvGWJ_f4B6UC7_IftDiVudVc8CJ8sxLUqlxVsCz4/
Cheap disks: https://shucks.top/ https://diskprices.com/
PCIE info: https://files.catbox.moe/id6o0n.pdf
>i226-V NICs are bad for servers
>For more SATA ports, use PCIe SAS HBAs in IT mode
WiFi fixing: pastebin.com/raw/vXJ2PZxn
Cockpit is nice for remote administration

Remember:
RAID protects you from DOWNTIME
BACKUPS protect you from DATA LOSS
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touhou hijack
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>>108097900
>"homelab/home network tour!"
>it's entirely ubiquiti
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>>108095218
>I needed to reinstall my shit 5 times in a month and it aws based.
ew why would i use aws
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>>108097900
wojack op, thread hidden
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This probably belongs in the stupid questions thread instead, but here goes:

What kind of hardware setup do I need to stream to other devices on my home network smoothly? It would only be stuff on my LAN. I once tried a Raspberry Pi out of curiosity and it obviously did not perform well. I would like to keep the media locally on that machine and stream it out rather than on a NAS or something for this use case.
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>>108099072
for media streaming, you would need something that can handle transcoding which is why the rpi probably failed on you. You'd probably want a mini pc with something like N100 for something bought new or an old laptop/desktop that has at least 8th gen or newer i3 or higher cpu. note that the power draw for an old laptop/desktop might be significantly higher than something specifically built to be low profile like a minipc
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Please bros redpill me on docker
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>>108100255
fuck I mean dockge
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>>108100282
useless bullshit
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>>108098344
Hate the game dont hate the playa
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>>108097967
Restaurant dates with beautiful girls in between website deployments
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>>108102506
Cheeky website deployments in between dates with beautiful girls
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Deploying beautiful girls at a restaurant through a website. Thus spake Zarathustra.
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>NAS grade drives are sold out across my entire country
AHHHHHHHHHHH
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>>108098344
>homelab
>lab
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>>108104044
Its purpose? Collecting dust
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>>108104044
got that same cisco in my basement, c2690s I think. i have a pic of it in my old setup somewhere
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>>108104514
Jeffrey?
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Hmmmm

2000VA/1600W double conversion LiFePO4 UPS for $800....

This is tempting.
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>>108105477
autismpower!
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>>108101057
you have no game and you aren't a playa fucking faggot retard ubiquiti equipment is by-retards-for-retards BRFR nigga
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>>108106444
looks identical to a baseddev at my company. He doesn't develop though. His job is ONLY creating rules for devs. It's disgusting
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>>108106444
can't buy ram for this shit
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Changed the batteries in my UPS today, might be the fifth time I done it. Was nice having everything shut down so I could clean out every part of the network. A lot less dust than I expected in the different components.
I don't know if I ever want to replace my current UPS but I wouldn't mind a larger WH battery for it. The two 12V20Ah SLA batteries work well but if some solid state battery drop in comes out I might try those the next time it needs batteries. My main concern though is is those drop in can tolorate the way an SLA is charged by the unit.
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I have some old parts laying around and I'm interested in throwing together a proxmox box and doing a bunch of fun shit (NAS stuff, home camera video storage, relieve my desktop of jellyfin duties, AdGuard, VPN, the usual.)

I have a Ryzen 5 2600x, a 1070ti (overkill, surely), two SSDs (750GB total) and two 4TB HDDs to cannibalize for this task. I am clueless about what kind of RAM to get (do they even make AM4 Mini-ITX boards that support ECC ram?). The challenge is finding a good SFF case to stuff this all into since it needs to fit on a thing downstairs by the modem. I'm thinking a Fractal Node 304, but am open to suggestions.
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>>108106967
Grab a Lithium unit at some point, they're getting to be good and cheap >>108105477

Even if you don't need double conversion, a line interactive model is ~$150-600 depending on the size.
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>>108106987
I skipped all the lithium drop ins since I didn't want to deal with the potential lithium fire. I've never had a battery go up however I've taken out plenty of spicy pillows. Supposedly solid state batteries will be much more stable than current lithium designs.
The other reason is the transformer in my current UPS is the size of a child's head and does a great job.
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>>108107008
The lithium batteries being used in UPSs are incredibly stable; they're LiFePO4, not lithium-ion (nickel manganese cobalt (NMC)/lithium cobalt oxide (LCO)/nickel cobalt aluminum oxide (NCA)), which are much less stable and prone to thermal runaway and fires when punctured.

LiFePO4 is very stable; the only downside is they can't be charged below freezing, or you'll permanently damage them.

They're not the kind of batteries that explode or catch fire easily. They're often used in RVs/Campers/Vans these days as the high performance option that blows SLAs out of the park.

3000-5000 cycles instead of 300-500
Can draw down to 90-95% capacity with zero risk of cell damage (SLAs can become damaged if drawn below 50%).

So yeah, lithium is just kinda the way to go as of 2022+. It used to be too expensive, but these days the cell prices are cheap enough that if you can afford to buy a lithium UPS, or know how to swap out existing SLA batteries for lithium cells, you really should at this point unless you have very specific uses that would make SLAs better for you. But those would be quite rare (ultra cold environments where the cells will be below freezing regularly when you need to charge them).

Also, the toroidal transformer in the 1000W model is like the size of a grapefruit, so the 1200W/1600W models are likely even larger.
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>>108107194
Looking online it looks like lifopo4 does not like to be run in series for the drop in replacements. My UPS is a 24V unit. Guessing the BMS would get cooked from being run at 24V. It would be nice if I could find a standard size chart for SLAs instead of everyone's different part numbers for them.
Maybe I could get a 24V lifepo4 battery instead of two 12V ones.
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>>108107306
Then again maybe these ones would be fine. I'll have to get them in three to five years when the new SLAs go bad.
https://www.amazon.com/ECO-WORTHY-Rechargeable-Phosphate-Protection-Trolling/dp/B09N9BBS68
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>>108105477
Damn, I was looking at this exact one at work today.
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>>108107319
Yeah I couldn't tell you there; I've not messed with swapping SLAs for lithium. I tend to just swap the whole system, as there have been plenty of advances in battery charging in the last decade+ that generally warrant replacing everything regardless of if I COULD swap the batteries or not.

>>108107329
Yeah, the $800 preorder sale price is tempting. I don't really NEED double conversion, but it would be neat.
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>>108107332
Very tempting, why are they calling it a nas though?
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>>108107396
Because they're chinks

It's just one of the applications they advertise it for.
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Trying to decide if I want to repurpose an i7 8th gen from a premade HP desktop, or just buy one of those mini pcs. Which one will do better at running 24/7?
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>>108106444
this is what me and my Ubiquiti boys think about you:

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIycdwjeLUk
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i have proxmox server at home which i am trying to access from outside home using tailscale. i created a CT with ubuntu image and configured tailscale on it. i have done pretty much everything right from advertising routes, to setting ip forward, approving route from admin console, etc but i can't access anything outside of the CT while remote. i want to access other things like jellyfin, immich,etc that is running in a VM. does tailscale method work fine for you guys? i will next try it on debian image since it's not the first time ubuntu gave me headache but not really sure if that's even the issue.
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>>108108549
That first argument is retarded. I've never had any SLA battery swell or leak. That's the sign there is something wrong with the UPS and it should be replaced since it's overcharging the battery.
The batteries do wear out in about 357 years if taken care of. Crib deaths or earlier can be a sign of a low quality battery, a malfunctioning charger, or being left in a depleted state for an extended period.
Most UPS units will test their batteries regularly allowing for them to notify you when the battery needs replaced.
The argument you have to buy an APC or whatever brand UPS battery is not only false but retarded. I've never bought an official battery, just a middle of the row one off amazon. Never had a problem.
Points two and three I cannot comment on since I have never used lifepo4.
I've heard of direct DC power units however there is still some amount of conversion done. A PC wants 12V, 5V, 3.3V and 1.3V, nothing more. A standard SLA is about 14V charged and will dip under load. So you need some electronics to correct this voltage to what the PC wants. This is waste, not anywhere near as bad as a DC to AC to DC conversion though.
As usual, AI is delusional.
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>>108108614
>357 years
3-7 years
Sorry typo.
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>>108108614
I think AI was just steelmanning the position because of the way I asked the question. I just thought the answer was pretty funny since I do actually think those arguments are exactly what LiFePO4 autists would say.
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>>108107390
>$1600
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>>108098344
unifi best quality brotha enterprise equipment n shieeet
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>>108108559
you probably dont have a route back. get filtered by networking, nerd.
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>>108108614
>Crib deaths or earlier can be a sign of a low quality battery, a malfunctioning charger, or being left in a depleted state for an extended period.
Or just a sign your power company is shit and has dirty power.
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>>108084740
how blud felt after posting his ccna homework to own the Ubiquity chuds:
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Do any of you guys bother with SELinux? My container host runs Fedora Server, and I'm starting to get fucking sick and tired of SELinux labels.
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>>108109873
SEXLinux might actually convince me to try Linux again. It might even get more than 1% market share
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My ISP is giving me some fucked up restrictions, and I couldn't get gluetun to work with proton VPN free tier.
Is there a way to use cloudflare warp, as SOCKS5 proxy?
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Bros how do I update my containers automatically?
At the moment I have a cron job running to stop, pull and start them but that ain't it right?
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>>108111446
watchtower?
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>>108099072
If you host the right codecs, you can probably avoid transcoding and still use a raspi
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redpill me on zerotier
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Update.
I can permanently borrow this one from work. Should be good, no?
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>>108112135
all free stuff is good stuff
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>>108112175
Yes sir!
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>>108097967
What hardware is that?
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>>108112135
>1gig only
nice 1990s tech
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>>108112956
Damn bro angry at the stuff I'm stealing
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>>108097900
OK guys, I'm thinking of setting up a server at home... at the moment I only have some old parts of a computer that I had that is a Pentium G2030 LGA 1155 and 8Gb DDR3, can I do something with that computer? I honestly don't want to throw it away.
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>>108112956
You will not saturate a gigabit connection for 99.99999999999% of your life while online. It's more than good enough for a home network.
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>>108113291
I regularly hit over 1Gbps in steam downloads.

Unless the download is like less than 500MB, i'll almost always breach 1Gbps, sometimes even 2Gbps.
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>>108113291
Are you retarded? I saturate it constantly with just downloading torrents and transferring files between my server and PC.
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>>108113328
So you claim you are constantly moving files between your server and PC, all day, 24/7? Stop being a smoothie.
>>108113302
And? You download a game then when it's done the connection is no longer saturated. My point still stands. Or are you deleting and redownloading massive games all day every day?
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>>108113346
Just moving the goal posts.

No one says you NEED greater than 1gbps, but you can easily use it on a day to day basis.
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>>108113692
You still haven't given a valid argument against my point. Gigabit is more than enough for a home network. You will not saturate it the majority of the life of the switch.
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>>108113713
I have given a valid reason, you're just not able to accept it, or are so retarded that you literally can't fathom what the answer means.

In 2026 I personally think it's a bit short sighted not to at least use 2.5GbE equipment as it's not all that expensive at this point and you more than double your potential bandwidth with zero future upgrades needed.

5GbE isn't too bad either, and 10GbE is getting cheaper and cheaper all the time.
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>>108113821
Saturating gigabit for a few minutes a day is not a valid reason.
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>>108113841
Says who?


I also have ~60TB of storage and regularly download large media files.
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>>108113920
Says common sense. You do you though.
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>>108113841
Cope retard. Enjoy your shit bottleneck. You probably think twice before you copy or backup. Gotta preserve those narrow lanes.
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Is anonymity on the internet a dead theory?
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>>108114049
Keep consuming smoothie. Gotta generate as much ewaste as you can for bigger number. Never had any issue pushing many TBs over the LAN, especially when I schedule shit to run when I'm asleep. Sad you can't imagine how you would feel skipping breakfast.
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>>108114091
>t. horseback rider when cars came out
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>>108114096
Wrong, I bought the Ford Model T when anon insisted the Baker Electric was the future. At the time electric wasn't and still arguably isn't.
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>>108099072
i have an HP slim shitbox with an intel J5040 CPU and it holds up just fine streaming emby
>>108105477
>calling a UPS a NAS when its not a NAS
Why? Also you can just by a used enterprise UPS for stupid cheap, slap in some LiFePO4 batteries with HMS protection and the outcome will be the same except you probably have even more automation tooling options (to safely shut down your NAS)
>>108107306
>>108107319
>>108107332
I threw four of these (order of 2 since they are 2-packs) and they work great in my 2U cyberpower UPS. If you are that curious i could log in and post average load but, I ran some tests and it keeps my firewall, 3 little switches, a dell optiplex mini server, a bananapi r3 mini and modem powered for 2.5 hours on utility line failure
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0F28YQ2ZL?th=1
>>108107306
>Looking online it looks like lifopo4 does not like to be run in series for the drop in replacements
look for the keyword "HMS", these batteries are gtg
>>108108614
>I've never had any SLA battery swell or leak
i got my cyberpower UPS used for $160 and it even came with the pricey network management card. I did have to... and i mean quite literally "chisel" the old batteries out but the things runs great now.
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Have the chance to completely start a fresh lab since I’m moving into a new place and want to try something different preferably with less work maintaining everything.

My current lab is running pfsense on a custom pc, with donated switches and aps from work, xcp ng running on 3 repurposed thinkcentres and an old t610 running truenas.

Things I’ve tried out in the past are proxmox and esxi so kind of bored of those.

Have the money now to actually buy proper shit.
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these threads are nothing but elitism. that shits for reddit. shitposting should consist of antisemitism.



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