Post Your Stack editionHow to request advice:>Location (since pricing and availability may vary)>Budget>What exactly you're looking for (be as detailed as possible)>Previous gear and your thoughts on it>Open back wired headphones• Hifiman HE400se• Sennheiser HD 560S• Sennheiser HD 6XX (US)• FiiO FT1 Pro>Closed back wired headphones• Shure SRH440A/SRH840A• AKG K361/K371• FiiO FT1>Wireless Bluetooth headphoneshttps://www.rtings.com/headphones/reviews/best/by-feature/wireless-bluetooth>Wireless Gaming headphoneshttps://www.rtings.com/headphones/reviews/best/wireless-gaming-headsets>Cheap Headphone amp/DAC combos• JDS Atom2 Stack• Schiit Magni Unity + Mesh• Apos Gremlin/Merlin• Dongles (Apple, Fiio, Crinacle)• Took out the DX5II in the wake of it now blowing up headphones L30 style: https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/topping-dx5-ii.60996/page-127#post-2492199>Active desktop/bookshelf speakers• Edifier R1280/MR3/MR4• iLoud Micro• Kali LP-6 v2• Neumann KH 80• KEF Coda W>Passive desktop/bookshelf speakers• KEF Q1/Q3 Meta• Ascilab F6B>Interfaces• Steinberg IXO22• Topping E1x2• Motu M2>Speaker amps• Loxjie A30• Yamaha R-S202• WiiM Amp>EQ/DSP software• Equalizer APO (Windows)• EasyEffects (Linux)• SoundSource (Mac)• Wavelet / RootlessJamesDSP (Android)• PEQdb (browser)>EQ/DSP hardware• Qudelix 5K• Neutron DAC V1• miniDSP>Useful resourceshttps://xiph.org/video/https://harmanhowtolisten.blogspot.com/https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.phphttps://superbestaudiofriends.org/index.phphttps://diyaudioheaven.wordpress.com/https://www.erinsaudiocorner.com/https://peqdb.com/
Also probably the fastest we've burned through a general, we're so back /hpg/.Thought it'd be fun for everyone to share their setups, since we don't do much of that now. Some of the speaker rooms were cool last bread.
Currently broke and unemployed and I bought some refurbished airpods max off amazon for $410I plan to return them in 2 months after I get a job and buy some brand new ones
>>108103622real asf
>>108103604Well, alright. Hopefully the FiiO doesn't decide to kill itself or some shit since I really like the source switching feature. Also, speakerbros, if you have any recommendations for some monitors/speakers that would be an upgrade from MR4s and are of a similar size, I'd appreciate it. These really can't do bass all that well.
>>10810361890% of the thread was gay retarded circlejerking kick the speakertrannies out NOW.
>hpg survived 3 threads in a row.Congrats!
>>108103705Have you tried using a cheap sub instead? Might be a better solution, can't imagine bass would improve too much in the near-field price bracket.
>>108103718It's fine honestly It's cool how much love speakerbros put into the setups.I also don't mind the e-celeb slop only because it's the same people pushing certain products, at least it's more on topic than LTTslop.
>>108103728I have an Edifier T5 as well but placement was kind of a pain. I put it under my desk but I had a hard time calibrating it correctly so the bass wouldn't be too much. Might take it out of the box and try again, I suppose. I guess I can't expect good bass out of near-fields so the subwoofer might be necessary after all.
>>108103746>love>its just a shitty untreated room with a bunch of gay furfag plushies and shit speakersnah gang
>>108103760Post your setup to mog him then
>>108103705Adam D3VKali LP-UNFKanto Ora/Ora4
>>108103764
>>108103770>no yaxi padsNGMI.
>>108103760Somebody said plushies?
>>108103775dont need meme pads when you eq to the endgame target that mogs all speakers
>>108103718>>108103718seeing headphone users act like they belong in the speaker general is so absurd. you belong in Weenie Hut Jr's with the IEM users
>>108103792sorry you spent $3000 on a setup that loses to ksc75 + eq to speakertranny target
>>108103799i spent $3000 on your mom. wasn't worth it lol
>>108103816worth more than ur ass speakers (that get mogged by ksc75 + eq)
>>108103827If FR was all that mattered, everyone would just buy Etymotic ER2SE or ER4SR
>>108103604>>108103705holy snake oil lmaoi got a used atom amp+ for $50 and you probably spent more on those meme amps than on the headphones
>>108103799youre not supposed to eq with modulate point source
If your target has no bass shelf your opinion literally doesn't matter, I don't make the rules.
>>108103876>you probably spent more on those meme amps than on the headphonesNo, nigger. The K7 was ~$200, LCD-X is $1200 new but I got mine used for ~$700.
>>108103869Ear dildos are off topic though.
>>108103902ok so you spent $150 more on an amp that has additional $10 DAC and 8dB worse sinad
>>108103920No, I spent $150 more on it for the digital volume knob and source switching.
>>108103929what do you need a digital volume knob for? you sure you didnt mean analog? mine also has source switching but only two inputs
>>108103971>what do you need a digital volume knob for?Digital volume control means no channel imbalance. I had a Schiit amp with an analog knob some time ago and it developed a channel imbalance eventually. You can fix that by soldering in a new potentiometer but that's a pain in the ass.>mine also has source switching but only two inputs4 inputs in mine was part of the reason why I got it so I can use it with my PC, my TV and my turntable. Another thing was the ability to output sound either only to the headphone out or to the line out so my speakers. Most non chink dac/amp manufacturers don't offer this and it's a shame since I don't trust the chinks all that much. Oh well, it hasn't killed itself yet.
>>108104008ok that's a valid use casemy audio interface has bad channel mismatch but amp is fine
>>108103920>8dB worse sinad>he thinks it mattersoh no not this shit again
>>108104082it doesnt but why bother with a worse product
>>108104214By what metric? We've had plenty of high SINAD products (every Topping ever, Schiit Heresy) be complete dogshit because the QC is compromised for inaudible SINAD bullshit.If you're saying Fiio QC is cooked and it's a chinkfi thing then sure I see it more, but they do offer a lot of features other brands don't at that price point like >>108104008 mentioned.
Bros what are some yuropean brands for DACs and amps that aren't a billion gorillion dollars? I'm tired of ch*nese shit.
>>108104241>By what metric?well, qcfiio has balanced output if you need more power and if you're gonna use it that's fair but a fuck ton of people buy like hd6xx and a $200 dacamp>>108104334all the "european" brands ship components from china or even better chip whole products and only assemble them in europe if even that
>>108104334http://www.soekris.dk/dac1221.html
>>108103604>Post your stack1. Probably will get rid of the Topping Stack, although E70 is very functional and I like the bluetooth connectivity so might keep it after all, yet HD580 sounds better from high-impedance laptop jack 2. Secure a Pro-bias tube amp
>>108104504Extremely kino STAX
>>108104361Hmmm the dac2541 looks kinda cool and has what I want. It's a model from 2020 though. I wonder if the technology really has improved that much since.>>108104347I guess bro but fuck ch*na. I'm fully tarnished by hifigo and xduoo. I feel like dying.
Any thoughts on picrel? Are they good or shit?
>>108104569If you want "technology improvements" you can go back to ASR SINAD bugchasing
>>108104569I know a few guys on SBAF still use the 2541 to this day and haven't had issues with QC or anything. DACs are pretty solved and were back then so I doubt it's missing anything you'd want in one.
>>108104605shit is an understatement
>>108104617How so?
>>108104334I'm a casual, but I bought a Pro-Ject Headbox S2. Shit's got a fucking micro usb input for external power, but that's fine for me cuz I run it over USB 2 from my PC. Has worked well so far and feels solid, made in Slovakia.Cost about 400 euros.
>>108104334>>108104660Sorry, meant the Head Box S2 Digital.
>>108104614The volume pot looks kinda ass though no?>>108104660Designated turntable brand.
>>108103604My new stack. I have reached summit-fi. Mono speaker on this bad boy. Can use it with headphones too.
Is this a great deal? I'm in Canada and prices are fucked. Unless there's a better headphone at this same price I'm getting these.
bedroom desktop speaker listadam d3v = kali lp-unf > iloud micro >>> edifier mr3 > edifier mr4 >>>>>>>>>>> creative pebble
>>108103622>airpods>$410what the fuck
>>108104334Yuropeons are a relic of the past, gramps
>>108104804Stop it anon.
>bet on super duper rare cassette tape auction>IMMEDIATELY goes from 37 dollars to over 100 dollarsMan fuck this gayass dead internet AI botted garbage shit fuck outta here. What's the point of having all this gear to produce music, when you can't even get the media to play the fucking signal? Can't even have fun with cassettes. I guess I'll just stick to piracy and soulless digital sound.
>>108105080You must be new here.Real bidding occurs in the last 10 seconds of the auction, because nobody wants to inflate the price early. Basically ebay operates on a slightly modified Vickerey auction scheme.Your best bet is to submit your realistic highest bet literally in the last 1-2 seconds unless you're sniping or botting
>>108105201I'm not new little guy it's just a Japanese auction and I have to use a third party shipping service. They handle the betting too except they're faggots. I either have to go to Japan or I have to trust them and pray.
>>108104334how much is too much? I went with picrel. it's ok, I guess.
>>108104605Avoid Beyer
>>108105244Cambridge is a meme.
>A lot of juicy vintage DACs >None of them take USB inputs, only coax or TOSLINK >Look at USB - coax/toslink converters >Its either 20$ chink shit or 1000$ audiophile shit with no sane middle ground There is no escape
>>108105256All of their headphones are bad?
headphones are cope. speakers are all that matter
speakers dont matter either because you can take 5$ shitbud and EQ it to perfection
>>108105347FR is not the only thing that matters
>>108105315The Douk chinkshit DDC is good for 99.
>>108105503The reason to use an old DAC is to get rid of chink stuff in your setup but you are pushed to use other chinkshit to make it work
>>108105347take your cope back to iemg smelly
>>108105320That guy is just hating, I have a DT 770 and it sounds great.
>>108105705you mad I ED'd my usb pet rock to sound better than your $100k speakers? lmao, EQbros can't stop winning.
>>108105320Furniture and drivers are both designed to fall apart. Nobody makes good headphones in G*rmany any more.
does anybody have any experience with sony SS-CS5s?
>>108104605owned by the chinks, exploding sliders, voice coils commit sudoku
>>108105046This is a speaker general.
>>108105315Chinkshit is fine for stuff like this, expensive cables are a meme
>>108105751If it isn't PEQdb Diamond Beta it isn't EQ'd right
>>108105756>>108105940That’s a lot of new information. Is there a source or can I use your post as a primary source?
>>108106120>eqing different qc and positional variation to a single targetOnly a completely jeeted mind could come up with this, even harman provided a degree of customization >>108103881 and they literally measured all their headphones.
>>108104334ESS, Cirrus, AKM, TI are not Chinese. 99% of "Chinese" DACs are made from parts from these companies, they're more American than Chinese. If you want something specifically designed in Europe - good luck.
alright guys, just ordered a lcd-x what am i in for besides getting a full neck workout?
>>108104334China is the country of the future, just like Japan was in the 80s. You get what you voted for. You moved all your production to China and now they’re the inventors and engineers of the modern world. Bow.
>>108106143>they literally measured all their headphones.Even that only really accounts for QC. They tried to account for positional variation and leakage effects by re-seating and re-measuring the headphones multiple times, but that obviously has its limits. They also used open back headphones, because they found them to be less susceptible to positional variation and leakage effects in general.
>>108106206Lots of EQ
>can only hear up to 12Khz on the Sine>"they call me the Golden Ear">claims he can hear ringing >21Khz>used to sell expensive DACs to home audio enthusiaststhis is the guy telling you to believe the science btw I hope none of you have ever taken gear advice from this mudskin
>>108106143Most critics of harman simply weren't in their lab to experience proper eq. Most lovers of harman are simply retarded - it wasn't even developed on the pinna reviewers are using lmao. Personal adjustments are mandatory.
>>108106143PEQdb has a personalised tuner too fwiwSharur is a sperg but his curve sounds a lot better than any iteration of Harman I've tuned to
>>108106503Pretty much why every reviewer is comfortable with putting out their own targets, the technology gap has drastically closed and people realise Harman is ass.Since Olive left/wasn't needed at Harman every more every test has been him, Dan Clark, and 19 DCA employees barely getting above 50 per cent approval on a single curve ship has completely sailed on any idea Harman curve was 'science' and more people are ready to concede it was just marketing pushed to shill products.
>>108103604Are the JBL Stage 280Fs any good or should I get something else?
>>108103760Someone's butthurt maybe if you put enough effort into working you'd be able to make enough money to buy nice things
>>108107082please tell us you smoke those.
>>108106730https://www.erinsaudiocorner.com/loudspeakers/jbl_280f/TL;DR: They're quite alright. Erin wasn't terribly enthused, but I think that's mostly because he had very high expectations. You certainly could do worse, and I'm not aware of a speaker of the same price that beats them in all aspects.Ascilab F6B would get you more linear frequency response and more even directivity, but they can't play as loud and deep, and availability is poor.
>>108107082Nice things like ksc75 + eq'd to speakertranny target which mogs all speakers?
>>108106129Just check ASR or head-fi, or google 'beyer driver failure'.
>>108107082Extremely based cig choice
>Schiit Magni Unity>Beyerdynamic DT 990 Pro>EasyEffects as EQI've enjoyed dipping my toes into more high-end audio
>5 am >stalking my amazon delivery driver because he's arriving with my headset>this fucker is taking a stop at mcdonalds
>>108103604and pair of iems and some 3d printed diy stuff
>>108108696fuck xduoo
might've hit the refurbished jackpot>bought a set of airpods max off amazon for $390 (417 after tax)>they work>no scratches>factory new smell (I think they replaced the ear pads)>they came charged at 36% and the battery has only drained 6% after an hour, so like 17 hours of chargeI saved around $110 buying them used and they seem great. Hopefully these don't die on me in a month.
>>108109290You don't need to make bait posts to keep the thread alive lil bro.
>>108109324I am 100% serious
>>108107155If you like something that has a sub McDonald's kids toy build then sure
>R70X headphones start feeling loose>take them apart>they're blatantly designed wrong on purpose to breakFuck you Audio-Technica, you fucking cocksuckers. They used a BRASS pivot with a fucking steel retaining clip, so over time the brass just falls apart and the ear cups get loose.So now my options are "fuck me in the ass" replacement parts that will fail in a few years again, or taking them apart, getting accurate measurements, and then remaking them properly out of steel.
>>108103770bros which phones will make me feel most like patrick bateman?i know ill always look likea bitch but, i want to at least try to feel like him.
>>108109730do you plan to connect those headphones to anything at all?
>>108109871my smart phone
>>108106206Screws that will loosen after 2~ish years, fixable with blue loctite. Kind of shitty stock sound, kino of the highest order with EQ. Bass is great because a broken seal won't cause any rolloff. Because of that music with lots of low end and movies are great with these. Surprisingly enough, the stock cable isn't dogshit. >>108109730Iirc the headphones he used were the ones that came with the Sony WM D3 but slightly modded.
>>108109290Bad purchase, you need to comply with the movement and buy hurr durr six hungos by old mate senn
>>108110389this but unironically
>>108084551Anon you were right, I got JT-7s from your recommendation over the HE 400SE and these things kick ass. I'm not really an audiophile so I'm not sure I would notice the differences, but I can still tell it has decent bass. I may still end up getting another pair of Samsons but only because I need something for traveling.
>>108111005I do have a brainlet question, what could I do to improve the subbass a bit? I get it's never going to have the bass of a semi-open back but could I EQ some of it back in?
>>108111005Glad you like it, anon. As far as open back headphones go this is the best option <$200 imo which is why I suggested it.>>108111054> what could I do to improve the subbass a bit?Just apply some EQ. These are VERY low distortion(0.2% in the bass, 0.5% in the treble at over 90dB) which means you can boost the subbass by >6dB or more no problem. The only issue you might have depending on your source is that when you EQ you need to apply negative preamp gain of the same amount which means it will lower the overall volume so more power is required.>I get it's never going to have the bass of a semi-open backNonsense. It's just the matter of applying an appropriate low shelf filter.>but could I EQ some of it back in?Sure.
>>108111054LSC EQ bump, what >>108111177 said pretty much
The list is up.
>>108103604Need new wireless headphones for work and listening music during work. About to spend 500EUR for the Sennheiser HDB630.Give me a reason not to do it.I like sub bass and sound system music, but I guess I can EQ them (parametrically).
>>108111315It's the best wireless headphone on the market, I'm not gonna stop you if you think the price is right.
>>108103622>airpods>$410Mother dropped you on head when you were a newborn??? Asking real question here.
>>108111323It's a business expense and need expenses for my business this year. I was buying it anyway, seeing mixed reviews for bass and it is hard determine who actually tuned the EQ and who is complaining about the default tuning.
>>108111352XM6 is going to have better sub bass out of the box (Sony house sound typically does this) but has atrocious build quality - everything since the XM4 has been a step back in QC. I suspect 630s will EQ to what you want just fine.
>>108111243>>BWC
>>108111243What has this guy said about my endgame Sash Tres SE?
>>108111554Hate to break it to you, Marv is a big fan of the Verum 2. Sash bros obsoleted again.
>>108111563His tune will change once he tries the all new Sash Matrix.
>>108111339How are they any different from >>108111315?
>>108111339>>108111827There's nothing wrong with Airpods
At what price range for wired headphones (over ear) do I expect to see comparable quality to HDB 630 or AirPods Max? Or are they equal dollar-for-dollar?
>>108111908build quality wise its hard to beat apple. but sound wise even cheapest open chinkfiman will wipe floor with them.
>>108111908Sound wise even cheap 6XX's are beating wireless stuff
>>108111315If you EQ then get Bathys, at least they are not made in chinkland and feel like a proper audio product, not landfill material.
>>108111908At 25 bucks because that's how much KSC75 costs. Even the most expensive wireless slop gets BTFO'd by $190 HD6XX in build quality or $130 JT7 in audio quality.>Or are they equal dollar-for-dollar?lmao
>>108111956The “hurr durr six hungos by old mate senn” don’t have the base or treble extension that even dollar store headphones have, their resolution is grainy and they have basically no soundstage. Their only accomplishment is having a “true neutral” sound signature while disregarding basically everything else about audio. P.S. stop going on /r/headphones
>>108112027>3D-printed chink plastic beats aluminum and steelHow did dankpods get this popular?
>>108112045I meant in audio quality, retard. If you mean in build quality then HD6XX is built better than any wireless slop. Even fucking $50 SHP9500 is.
>>108112034NTA but as this is a retarded post I'll bite>don’t have the baseFair enough but that's fixable with EQ.>or treble extensionTreble is well extended up to nearly 20khz which is the range of human hearing, and there is no music content above 15khz. Unless you're claiming you're superhuman and can somehow hear above what is humanly possible.>their resolution is grainyFunction of the frequency response but I'd never describe them as grainy.>they have basically no soundstageSee above, frequency response. Imaging would be a valid nitpick, though, since the drivers aren't angled.>stop going on /r/headphonesI do not frequent pl*bbit.
>>108112067Yikes, the headphone movement needs to sort itself out. Metal is always seen as a better build material than plastic, especially since shitheiser has gone downhill in recent years.
>>108112034>base
there's literally no reason for /iem/ to be separate from this thread. it should just be an audio hardware general like /ag/ or /audio/ or something
Need a dacI have a senn 6xx, senn 599hd and moondrop katosDont wanna spend too much, like 30-100 dollarsIn australia btw
>>108111177Thanks again, I appreciate it.
>>108112251Also have the sony wh-1000wx6
>>108112231Been saying this for years and they go "reee noooooooooooo reee". At least this faggot listened and included speakers and general hifi in /hpg/.
>>108112231Iem general is full of sea pajeets shilling 5usd shitbuds, here at least you can discuss something without them yapping about plastic trash
>>108112314this is how speakerchads see /hpg/
>>108112251Only thing you'll get at that price here is a dongle lol. Apple dongle if you use apple shit, KA11 otherwise.
>>108112314Discuss a new dac and amp for me after hifigo and xduoo cursed me with the ta-32.
>>108112456Im cured with xduoo too, first and last for me, hifigo is nice, support lady gave me 10 USD for next purchase on top of existing discount. I'm done with spending money on that shit for next two years
>>108112231Actually speakertroons should be in their own containment general.
>>108112977headphones are undeniably cope
>>108104798is this CAD? The 599SE usually goes for around 100 Euro and drops to 80 Euro every other month.
>>108112995mogged by ksc75
