Daily reminder to 1 - backup your shit and 2 - REPLACE YOUR FUCKING SATA CABLESI am so mad I can heat my home on anger alone. I spent the last 2 weeks re-installing the OS, software, drivers, running hardware checks on everything I could and whatever other "fixes" I could come up with. What was the reason the constant freezing/BSOD/hanging? - A FUCKING SATA CABLE for the OS HDD. Don't be a retard like me.
>>108103721>spends 2 weeks trying to turn his computer onlollmak even
>>108103721>the OS HDD
>>108103837Well, I used a spare that I have had ready to go for years, loaded with all my work related programs and everything else I need. My main machine was not working properly for 12 days tho, yeah. Not proud of that.>>108103854Do you have your OS spread around several HDDs or is this a SSD jab?
>>108103866the second one, btw did you know the thickness of the cable affects the speed? I only discovered this recently
>>108103854It could be a OS SSD as well if you've got a 2.5 SATA one.Also I'm currently having issues with a shitty M2 slot that gives out CRC errors and the SSD won't even go through Crystal Diskmark tests, worked fine on my other mainboard.So OP's post isn't useless just because you don't use HDDs
>>108103891I don't think that's true for SATA cables. I am not allergic to SSDs, got plenty of them around, including in my NUCs, but I have always used a HDD for my main PC OS drive. Why? Dunno, but it's how it is and it will stay that way.
>>108103891>>108103721This is why I threw away most of my sata cables and just buy these styleSame type of cable used on 12gbps SAS drives, thin enough to be routed anywhere
>>108103936Imagine being so retarded that you think it matters which fucking sata cable you use
>>108103721>a retard like mebased honest anon
>>108103957I like their thinnessIs there any other reason I need?
>>108103721i have those exact same sata cables and i went through like 2 over 3 yearsi also have no backup because im retarded
>>108103721>REPLACE YOUR FUCKING SATA CABLESWhats the maintenance interval? 3 years, 30 Terabytes, whichever comes first? I sure hope my expired SATA cables dont blow up my motherboard
>>108103721been using the same one from more than 10 years, this kinda feels like a skill issue from op, but well being a faggot is already hard enough, thinking is to much for his dick sucking brain
>>108104026>because im retardedkek>>108104026NTA, but once/2 years would prolly be the goal. I base that on absolutely no empirical data, just a gut feeling.
>>108103721>>108103921>I have always used a HDD for my main PC OS drive. Why? Dunno, but it's how it is and it will stay that wayThis is the strangest hill to die on. Most modern software is slow as fuck even when running from a fast SSD. Running it from a SATA HDD sounds like unnecessary misery.
>>108104041lel
>>108103721m2chads don't have this problem#m2gangrisesup
>>108103721Brother any niche thing can go wrong at any given point.hell I had to take a computer once to someone with more equipment than me only to find out that my AIO pump just stopped working. As if I had a way of figuring that shit out.
>>108103936>he spends 9$ on chinkshit sata cables from letter-soup brand when he can get the same exact thing for pennies on aliexpressyeah keep consuming on scamazon goy.
>>108104056probably one of those borderline religious tech habits we all have>>108104062>loses data inexplicablymight as well store it at a flash card
>>108104064>AIO pumpjesus fucking christ, how are we supposed to figure that one out?
>>108104079>loses data inexplicablycitation needed
>>108104111>"storing data on SSD drives for long periods increases the risk of data degradation (bit rot) or total drive failure"
>>108103721>>108103921>Old man mad because his 1920 ford model T has broken downBro, m.2 is far from new technology nowadays
>>108104139same as hard drive or even diamonds then, what's your point?nothing is eternalentropy is a bitchan ssd will be fine in your computer you use everyday...
>>108104075Unless you want to make a new account for basically everything, AliExpress isn't much cheaper for the same shit.
>>108104159SSD are prone to total data erasure and failure, HDDs are not
>>108104172>SSD are prone to total data erasure and failurewhich barely happens in real-life>HDDs are notthey still die too and both ahve the same lifespan
>>108104172>HDDs are notThat's only if you believe HDDs are entirely mechanical which they are notBoard failures can fuck up your day just as bad
>>108104191>>108104192>AI Overview>While the premise that SSDs are more prone to total failure than Hard Disk Drives (HDDs) is generally false, thenature of how they fail is very different. SSD failure modes can indeed be more catastrophic (sudden, silent, and unrecoverable) compared to the "slow death" often experienced by HDDSSDfags BTFO eternally
>>108104161>AliExpress isn't much cheaper for the same shit....yes it is? are you seriously paying 10x the price on chinkshit to "not make a new account"?ali sells far more shit than amazon has so it doesn't even make any sense as an argument
>>108104220none of this matter as they both last years and you DO backup your shit, right?
>>108104220Guess what happens when a component on this board dies
>>108104268happens infinitely more rarely than SSD failure tho
>>108104220"hdd is better than ssd because you have a slightly higher chance of recovering data in the use case that you have absolutely 0 backups"this will never make any sense, kys retard.
>>108103721Did you ever consider to actually read the codes that your BSODs threw?
>>108104316still true tho, ssd schizo
>>108104320Yes, they were not helpful at all. AT ALL.
>>108104268carburator dealer gets sales?
>>108104233>...yes it is?Literally every time I look for something on ali it runs the gamete of being maybe a few bucks cheaper for smaller items to being more expensive for larger items.It's not even like I exclusively shop on Amazon, I'll go to ebay if shit is cheaper there
>>108103721I've had multiple data corruptions over the years from bad sata cables. It sucks when the only option for some more obscure sata accessories are dodgy chinkshit. In my case it was an esata adapter.
>>108104728grim
>>108103721>replace sata cables All of mine are 10+ years old. Some double that.
>>108103721>SATA cable on HDD.>HDD>SATAfucking lol
>>108103721You are a retard but we seriously don't talk about SATA and other PC cables enough. Not long ago I just happened to be looking up SATA cables and was surprised at the little things about them I never knew about. Like I never knew they continued to keep making revisions of SATA 3 cables all the way up til 2020. I wonder why sites never label them by these revisions like they do with USB.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SATA
>>108104299citation needed
>>108105472explaining brutal force dot com
>>108105472lmao
>>108104047You're more likely to replace a working cable with a dud. If it works it works.
>>108104047>2 yearsAbsolute mental illness
>>108104961??
>>108105614Only a retard would still be using a Sata HDD for their main OS, anyone worth their shit started using SSD for the OS since 2012
>>108105268how am I supposed to know what cables do I have? I'm just using those that came with my mobo
>>108105268>>108105992All versions after 3.0 have identical cables
>>108103721I've never had a problem with a SATA cable for 3 decades. In fact, I didn't even think it was possible to have problems with one.
>>108103721TIP: Check SMART. Pay the most attention to remaining reserve blocks and other wear indicators, or for a HDD any remapped sectors. But don't neglect "UDMA CRC Error Count". If you see the raw value for this go up from its previous value, chances are you have a bad SATA cable. Dying SATA controllers on your motherboard or in the drive can do it too, but it's usually the cable.
>>108103837happens when>OS HDD
>>108103854Actually perfectly usable up to W10 assuming you're not shutting it down often. If it speeds up the actual OS significantly, you either installed some background bloat or didn't remove enough.
>>108106670>cripple your OS instead of upgrading to an SSDOK boomer
>he runs his fucking OS on a SSDis this the 90s or are you fucking Indian
>>108106036>>108105268all SATA cables are interchangeablethere is no such thing as SATA I II III cable, just SATAthe protocol changed many times, but never the cable
>>108104096most modern AiO pumps have RPM sensors. Also if it's dead your cpu will heat the fuck UP and fast. I've tried toggling mine on and off and the temps just balloon out of control rapidly because the water can't go anywhere.Also, you can hear it. It's very very subtle
>>108103721>>108103721Wouldn't the OS or even hard drive inform you about these kind of I/O errors?
>not booting from a ubanto live USB first to see if it's a legit hardware problem or a wangblows being retarded problem>then check your OS disks from Linux to see if there's any problems therebasic pc troubleshooting 101.
>>108107255There are some safeguards in place but actually realizing they're happening is something beyond 99% of /g/'s actual knowledge. So no, not really
This is the only cable I use nowadays for drives. It actually stays in place, unlike the dumb piece of shit in the OP that can move around and corrupt shit.
>>108106985>crippleAgain, there shouldn't be much of a difference past boot. And I'm not telling you to do anything nor that I'm doing it.
>>108105642If you never turn off your pc does it even matter bro
>>108104335oh yeah? name 10
>>108104139That's cold storage, if you turn your computer on and use it at least once a month, you're not gonna lose data from SSD.
>>108103721>using spinning rust as os drive in the year of our lord 2015+11
>>108103721Dumb question but would have turning on the setting in the BIOS to have hot swap drives have fixed or helped with OP's issue? I know some boards leave this option off by default but if a bad cable was disconnecting or moving often or not getting a proper connection, would hotswapping have levitated the issue? I had a drive that went out on me as well just recently, but I never figured it could have been the cables.
>>108104111Afaik Macs *still* store everything on a RAID0 SSD array, so if one NAND chip dies all goes with it. I think its better than the T2 Macs where even the fucking UEFI was on the RAID so if one failed the computer was a brick, couldn't even use an external drive.
>>108103721>not using NVME M.2 SATA SSD as storage
>>108106111it is, even if you don't touch it, so there's no physical wear and tear, the heat and data running through it, no matter how miniscule, can fuck it up with time.
>>108106670I loved waiting 10 minutes after startup before I could open a webpage
>>108107887I doubt BIOS settings have effect on gravity
>>108109062>zoomer brain addicted to phonesIt's more like 2 minutes and the there's no difference in performance and HDDs are more stable in the long run. SDDfags are delusional.
>>108109062>reading comprehension
>>108103721>OS HDD.Is this 2011?
>>108103854All that needs to be said really
>>108109382>>108109511retards, god I hate tech illiterate zoomers so much
>>108103957It actually does matter, retard. There are 3 generations of SATA cables that exist. Cheaper cables are also rarely built to specification. Sure, they’ll socket into the SATA port, but they won’t reach true SATA III speeds. Never cheap out on data cables.
>>108104299dubs of truth
>>108105614NVME has existed for a while now.
>>108110384it's shit
>>108112640>that fast SSD with zero cables is shit>in a thread complaining about cables being faulty and it taking 2 weeks to do an OS installationholy dirt floor mud hut dwelling anon
>>108107320nta but >beyond 99% of /g/'s actual knowledge.any pointers?
OP here, it's been over 24h without any issues. I still feel dumb, but yeah it was the damn cable.
>>108103721HDDs haven't been useable as a boot drive since windows 7
>>108113739Based on what facts? Dreams don't count/
>>108113763NTA but I tried installing Windows 10 on a hard drive and Microsoft's constant indexing and telemetry shit ground my system to a halt so bad it was completely unusable.
>>108103721> Sata cable I have used a computer with a dedicated SATA cable in over 15 years. Why don't you just get a laptop and stop being the weirdo with a desktop anon?
>>108113907laptops are weird, nothing beats a tower
