https://gizmodo.com/discord-will-now-treat-everyone-like-a-teen-unless-they-prove-theyre-an-adult-2000719876>Discord Will Now Treat Everyone Like a Teen Unless They Prove They’re an Adult>The platform is expanding age verification globally, meaning adult users will need to verify their age to access sensitive content.The protests against the Gaza Genocide were a bit much so now the governments of the so called free world are going to strip away our right to communicate anonymously. I don't spend money on Discord and they've had data breaches in the past, so there is absolutely no reason for me to give them my personal information. I have read parts of the last thread and made a list of some of the alternatives. I am grouping them from easiest to hardest for normies to switch. Easiest: Steam, Mumble, Teamspeak, Revolt/Stoat, Telegram, Whatsapp. Slack, Matrix, Ventrillo, Microsoft Teams, RedditMedium: nostr, QuakeNet/IRC, simplex, XMPPHard: Tincan, LoRaChat AI: Sillytavern Chat I understand that free software is cool, but we need to consider normie accessibility when choosing an alternative. If its harder than pressing a button, they won't use it, and the network will stay small and die. Personally, this is why I am just going to revert to Steam, Mumble, and Teamspeak since I know they were popular before Discord ate their userbase. For the record, I have only used some of these so be careful. They might suck or be malware. Of the ones I have found, Stoat (revolt) looks normie friendly, but I haven't installed it yet. Can someone explain a bit about it? I prefer to have a "gaming exclusive" chat app like Discord, so the idea of migrating to something like Matrix, Microsoft Teams, Reddit, Telegram, or other general purpose communication software doesn't sit right with me.
>>108104849How do I convince my low IQ nietszchean bugman niggercattle friends to try out a non steam alternative?
>>108104995I am just listing shit from the last thread. Lay off the bullshit. >>108104969I guess you could just pay them to do it. They sound like the kind of people who would do it for money.
>>108104849There used to be a Matrix Element cunny server. If that's stilll a thing then that's the solution we need. >>108104969You can't. Discord alternatives need corporation push. And by corporation I mean like game studios with official servers need to migrate elsewhere so the mass would follow them.
>>108104849How many of these can also do streams? I play games and watch stuff with my buddies via discord pretty frequently.
What about rocket.chat or Tox?
How is element? Its based on matrix and looks decent enough.Reddit trannies were bitching it didnt have dozens of roles and shit, and i always consider that the worst part of discord "muh secret club" bullshit, and people sucking up to mods to move to "middle management". A discord without roles is alright by me.
>>108105017Microsoft Teams unironically. You can also do this on Steam. https://help.steampowered.com/en/faqs/view/548F-BC55-89EB-1BC8
>>108105030The only thing with Matrix is that I would have to create another account for gaming. I don't want to self host my gaming account. Hopefully I will find a service that hosts Matrix accounts for gaming. >>108105017Matrix can also stream.
>>108105003>I am just listing shit from the last thread. Lay off the bullshit.not sure what lay off the bullshit meansBut, maybe include the teamspeak like thingy i posted just few days ago. I guess it was quickly forgotten.
>>108105048You could have just posted the "thingy" you meant instead of shitposting like a faggot.
>>108105032>Microsoft TeamsYou're fucking joking, right?>SteamThat's only good for Steam games, right? Useless.
How about 4chan.buzz
wait so, Element/matrix... anyone can host a server, is someone hosting one now? uh... I'm cheap (i used up my yearly $20 for the 4chan pass already) somebody halp... gif server... let me in!(no i don't want IRC... don't have a strong argument against it... other than past trauma, shits too complicated! i need to install an IRC bouncer just to read my IM mailbox on multiple devices? IRC smells like email in a while loop to me... but if that's where the cool people are... then so be it I guess)
>>108105032Wont teams dox you 1000 times worse than Nu-discord? Its fucking microsoft, they cant do not-evil.
>>108105061I don't think so. You can play non-steam games through Steam via Proton. You can probably stream non-Steam games too since they have the full Steam overlay. >Steam Remote Play>Steam Remote Play allows games to be launched on one computer, while being played from other devices connected to Steam. With Remote Play Together, you can invite your Steam Friends to join your local co-op sessions remotely, without having to own or launch the game themselves.>To stream non-Steam games via Steam Remote Play, add the game to your library by selecting Games > Add a Non-Steam Game to My Library and browsing for the executable file. The added game will then show a "Stream" button on remote devices, allowing it to be played through Steam. (Gemini Slop)
>>108105073You can just hide behind your XBOX gamertag. They never doxed me to my Minecraft enemies after they EEE'd Mojang so whatever.
>>108105081yeh with steam remote play i added a switch emulator to stream zelda to my android TVworked well.
>>108105041You've gotta host Matrix yourself, right? How's that work?>>108105081>You can play non-steam games through Steam via Proton.Fuck that, and I meant as apposed to movies and shows too.
/g/entoomen should use XMPP.You don't even need an email to register (no phone number kikery, no IDs either). It's actually federated, can be used with I2P/Tor etc., encrypted groups, Gajim and Conversations are piss easy to use and looks okay, it's easy to selfhost if you want to.Cons: Main servers will be overloaded if 100M normalfags start using it. OMEMO setup needs some extra steps (3 clicks) so normies will be filtered.
Everyone on /g/ is just going to say IRC because it's the most unga bunga primitive thing imaginable that will make them look distinguished and separated from the herd but I would rather be where everyone is going to be not just a dozen arch linux retards who are socially inept
>>108105048https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/108079021/#108079021https://github.com/azc5OQ/lemon-chat
>>108105131>You've gotta host Matrix yourself, right? How's that work?You don't have to. Someone else could start the domain or you could just mooch from matrix.org. Is there no gaming themed Matrix instance yet? Hasn't this shit been around for like a decade? >>108105131You could probably launch VLC through Steam's menu and stream it if that's what you mean. >>108105134Okay, give us a good XMPP hub for gaming. >>108105159How do you know that it's just that you have really average taste in games?
Pedophiles and gooners on suicide watch. No longer will they be able to groom kids
Guilded?
>>108105170You are a troll but it's still funny how some people unironically worrying about online """grooming""" while people of all age gets raped by immigrants irl.
where's the previous thread link
>>108105168>Okay, give us a good XMPP hub for gaming. Create an account inside your XMPP client, click the plus sign inside the workspace, create group chat and that's it, you have your own gaming hub. Or just use the global chat search function (there are a few gaming focused chats in english, russian, spic and kraut).
>>108104849>SteamHow does this replace discord?>MumbleUgly as shit UI, no normie will touch this.>TeamspeakBasically just looks like Discord 2.0, I can tell at a glance it's going to do everything Discord does without ever having used it.>StoatDoesn't even show the app on the website. Looks like it has the polish of some rando's personal project. Also searching either name isn't going to bring up the app in the SERPs, therefore no normie will every even see it.>TelegramJust looks like a gay "private" text messaging app.>WhatsappIs a gay text messaging app.>VentrilloDoesn't have have https on their site so no normie will every touch it due to the big scary browser message.>Microso-No.>Reddit???I'm basically a normie and teamspeak is the only one that makes any sense at fucking all.
Do any alternatives allow full resolution images
saw this on twitter and decided to try it so far it’s pretty alright
>>108105245 (me) oops forgot the image
>>108105209>while people of all age gets raped by billionaires irl.Fixed.
>>108104849Still not sending Discord my ID.
what are we thinking lads?https://github.com/spantaleev/matrix-docker-ansible-deployorhttps://github.com/element-hq/ess-helm
>>108105232here: >>108101006
Too many options, I'm just gonna go offline for a few months then wait to see what everyone settles into
>>108105318Most of anons here will squeal but keep using Discord.
>>108105030AFAIK, Element/Matrix are the same thing. It's just a "Discord-like" UI/UX for Matrix.The biggest issue (if you care about that) is the rife Child Porn in Matrix servers being posted and not having adequate protection/moderators or other ways to counter-act people joining, posting CSAM, and then leaving.It's basically the 4chan "anonymous message board"/Ick on Eck spammer but with worse shit.
How is Teamspeak about privacy stuff and e2e encryption messages?
>>108105245Looks promising maybe I’ll check it out
>>108105335matrix is a protocol and element is a client that uses the matrix protocol over the synapse matrix server software
>>108105356>t's just a "Discord-like" UI/UX for Matrix.So you agree...?>It's just a "Discord-like" UI/UX for Matrix.?
>https://www.rootapp.com/How's this one?
>>108105332That's what I'm thinking, it will probably just be another x/bluesky situation, but we'll see
>>108105339they claim it's private and e2ee and you can host your own servers, it's not open source though
>>108105367Seems good honestly
people have literally reverse engineered the discord api so you can have discord at homehttps://github.com/spacebarchat
>>108105254>>108105245Seconding, that does look nice.
>>108105335How does someone combat this? Say you wanted to make a competitor, how can you combat CSAM, but also respect user privacy? Is it even possible?
>>108105367>>108105245>>108105254Looks good, but it's American. So they will implement the same shit as Discord in the end.
>>108104969Implement a pass-through bot that mirrors text and voice channels across both platforms until they switch
>>108105286I'm thinking you should be aware that the default configuration sends metadata to matrix.orghttps://github.com/libremonde-org/paper-research-privacy-matrix.org/blob/master/part1/README.md
>>108105403the industry meta is to use CSAM filtering solutions like thorn/photodna/project protect/etc which is basically a string of hash matching technologies/LLM models detecting against a database with hits verified by jannies. outside of something horribly invasive like that, no, you're shit out of luck.
Matrixchads stay winning
>>108105455Based. I have only used Matrix for real stuff, but I could create a gaming account.
>>108105254Gonna test this one out with some friends, it looks good.>>108105411If they're smart and want to steal Discord's customers then they wont do that.Even then, we will cross that bridge when we get to it.
>>108105466
>>108105254>>108105367>I'm going to replace a centralized corporate owned communication app with a centralized corporate owned communication app!goddamnit you retards
Are these threads for actually trying alternatives or just for Matrix fags to strut around and act superior?
when will people get the memo? i have a group of like 8 real life friends from high school that i have a discord with, and we play csgo from time to time.i post this and they go "yeah but if you have a driver's license they already have your info".why don't they care?
As an alternative, can we discuss how to bypass the ID shit? Any working methods?
>>108105534It's not even out yet, who knows?
>>108105534i've considered buying a realistic silicone mask to pass age verification selfies but i just don't use anything that has required one yet.
>>108105528Your friends are retards. Local pigs can't dox you from Discord yet. Soon they will be able to dox you on a whim.
>>108105544Britbongs should know, no?
>>108105534>>108105546spin up an unreal instace with a metahuman and screen record that, use LLM models to generate a verification video are the first ideas that come to mind.
Well, there is nothing you can do about it.You can switch to alternatives but don't expect them to ignore the law.
>>108105546>i've considered buying a realistic silicone mask to pass age verification selfies but i just don't use anything that has required one yet.The point is to Boycott this shit. We don't have to use Discord.
>>108105563People who aren't American don't have to give a fuck about US law, fuckface. You don't own the Internet!
>>108105528Because every message they’ve ever sent will be attached to their legal name with zero plausible deniability. Hope they’ve never said a single slur, or something people will consider a slur in 10 or even 15 years…
>>108105199Guilded was bought out by Roblox and they have the same retarded policies. It seemed promising at first until Roblox acquired it. Root is very similar to Discord but their privacy policy is pozzed beyond belief.
Do you guys think Discord seeing me not in calls during normal business hours will mean they don’t ask me to age verify?
>>108105576>Because every message they’ve ever sent will be attached to their legal name with zero plausible deniability. Hope they’ve never said a single slur, or something people will consider a slur in 10 or even 15 years…They can't be helped. They're too stupid.
why won't they just let me goon in peace
>>108104849We must always assume that a nonfree chat program can turn into malware anytime.Discord is a ticking time bomb. And other proprietary chat programs are as much a ticking time bomb, if we give them enough leeway.
>>108105567You have Facebook yet you expect privacy? You are one dumb motherfucker.
>>108105589i have a youtube account with a video i uploaded in 2009. 17 years ago. i still cannot watch age restricted videos on it without sending them a picture of my ID.
>>108105580Guilded was literally KILLED by Roblox, it was almost the perfect clone. Roblox now holds the trademark and code for it, so it will never be up again.Funnily enough, it was the merger and forced Roblox account and policies that killed it. I wonder how much this will hurt Discord.
>>108105595>why won't they just let me goon in peaceIt's because they're heckin' fash Anon. >>108105605>i still cannot watch age restricted videos on it without sending them a picture of my ID.You live in a shithole country.
>>108105612>You live in a shithole country.i live in the US.
>>108105575>People who aren't American don't have to give a fuck about US law, fuckface. You don't own the Internet!This website has a lawsuit claiming the us does.Also not my point, my point is that this is something starting to happen everywhere in the American circle have you forgotten about the UK or the EU?
>>108105598Yeah, I am leaning towards making an Element account for gaming.
>>108105595Imagine if Discord sees you’ve used gooning as a status or something. That might encourage them to be more pushy about your age verification since you’re horny and need everyone to know. Hell, that’s what I woulda done as a teenager.
>>108105605You still got a year to go kiddo. My Youtube account is old enough to drink.
>>108105613>>You live in a shithole country.>i live in the US.Thanks for proving my point.
>>108105403let people disable images in direct messages from strangers such that an image is never sent to the client>>108105576this is why discord holds accounts ransom for phone numbers for the slightest infractionit enables them and their clients to do dataset enrichment by buying other datasets and joining user data by phone number
>>108105616I'm in the EU and quite literally nothing has ever asked me to submit my ID or do some face scan except my bank, which obviously is something that I use via my real identity, not some internet toy platform.
I think if you call Discord Customer Service on the phone and tell them the internet today is like when John Kerry lost in 2004 that should be good enough for them to confirm you are over the age of 18.
>>108105616This is just a whataboutism that I don't care about at all. It's just an Amerifat defending the honour of his pedophile owned country. I don't live in either of those places btw. Most people don't.
>>108104849>Teamspeak>Teamspeak had the opportunity to steal marketshare from Discord>fumbled it with their autistic bullshit rules like "you have to be in a voice chat to use text chat" or "can't see text messages if you weren't online when they were sent">now they have another huge opportunity>they'll fumble again, because TeamSpeak3 worked that way way back when so TS always has to work that wayI'm just gonna give up and use Discord's ID whatever it may be, none of the competitors have half a brain.
>>108105681>none of the competitors have half a brain.Neither do you.
>>108105254https://rootapp.gg/ACzmc1gHjAqeiXjytV7Iww
>>108105650who the hell is john kerry
>>108104849Anyone know a discord alt that will allow me to add my own message board as an OAuth login? Basically I want the following:>User opens chat app or web interface>Connects to my server>Prompted to login using account from my message board>Basically "Sign in with Google" except its "Sign in with Anon's Thing"XenForo has a plugin to act as an OAuth provider, I just need an app that fits. If I find one, I can guarantee getting people to switch because they're all pissed about the discord news
oh look, another thread bitter out of touch 40yo boomers are desperately trying to tell young people how to have funNo i don't join your shitty fucking network with no real functional uses, no emotes, no streams and no ease of use. fuckoff back to MIRC grandpa
>>108104849You fucking nerds are so lacking in creativity. Just literally drive downtown and pay a homeless guy $5 to let you take his picture for verification.
>>108105235>>>Steam>How does this replace discord?Few years back, when pisscord started to get big, Steam did a half-assed attempt at copying some of its features. They added shit like emoji reactions, gif search, and IIRC groups even got the ability to create channels. They just kinda gave up like they do with everything else.But honestly, they already have all the features right there, they got friends, they got chat, they got game integration, and they even have streaming features and voice chat. They just gotta group it all together and actually promote the fucking feature.
>>108105704but you seem happy on 4chan with no emotes, no streams, and no stock ease of usecurious
>>108105699are you asking about openid providers? pocket id, authelia, authentik, keyclock, etc
>>108105687Some lofty bullshit about muh privacy is not worth using shitty software that never moved past 2008, developed by retards who answer "you don't need that" to offline messages and drag&drop share. It's not like they offset it by being a well made client in C or something either, they're usually the same Electronslop just worse. >>108105704Basically this except I'm the 35 year old boomer.
>>108104849ATTENTION ANONSTHIS IS A CALL TO ARMSIt is time you remembered who you were. What you used to fight for. What it is you stand for: freedom.And INTERNETS.It is about high time we fought back against this gay bullshit they're trying to impose on us and kids. They are evil moneygrubbing bastards either with links to paedophiles or friends of paedophiles. Or interests in Russia where they will use backdoors to quietly help that bald bastard in the Kremlin take control of AMERICA. And make us slaves to the social media tyrants who have taken over the internet and ruined browsing for millions. They same people they blame for this problem, built on them tracking us!WELL I SAY NO MORE.I SAY WE FIGHT BACK. STARTING HERE.Discord has announced a 'teen council' and they're opening up spaces to apply. It's supposed to help liaise with teens to figure out just how they can help make discord safer. They will probalby be coached.The form is completely unprotected.I think you know what you fuckers have to dohttps://discord.com/safety/how-discord-is-building-safer-experiences-for-teenshttps://forms.gle/Q4JBYxPVTVbySJnv7Choice ones I've known people submitted already>I love the age verification. Using Yoti and knowing that I'm helping train it so it can track down gay kids in Indonesia for the Government to put in prison and keeping track of people's masturbation habits is a good thing! Very progressive and save!>I love how the age verification makes me do debasing liveness checks that make me look like I'm licking the rim of a penis. I sure hope there isn't another data leak!SPREAD IT FAR AND WIDE.GO GO GO.
>>108105704>>108105723yet again I am linking https://github.com/spacebarchat because it is the discord service but you run it on your basement goon server stack. if you're worried about not being able to connect to random product discords or "communities" then all i can say is you're a lost cause.
>>108105746That's actually really good, thanks anon I'll look into it.Also fuck this captcha, I liked it when it was just 1 step but 3 fucking steps every time is a huge pain in the ass.
>>108105719No, I mean setting up my own provider
>>108105723I'm around the same age as you and I will be leaving Discord if this becomes company policy. You have no excuse since you've had plenty of time to learn about why this is a bad idea.
>>108105769those are all self hosted solutions
>>108105741nypa faggot
>>108105332I literally just deleted my discord account.
>>108105746Nice one.But can I connect it with the servers I'm in though?
>>108104849I see a bunch of Matrix servers hosted on opensuse.org. This is cool, but are there any hosted by a gaming focused organization or company?
>>108105780It's your fight. I don't even have a discord. But this is wrong. You need to make them get the message if you want to stay there. But if you're happy letting them steal your privacy, your data, and your freedom, that's down to you.
See you lads there
>>108105784huh? it's the entire discord service. it doesn't interface or federate with the actual discord service or anybody else's spacebar server in any way. you run it and you have made !discord. people join it and open "servers" (guilds) with channels just like how it works on discord (because it's the discord service reverse engineered, give or take a bunch of API endpoints they haven't ported over yet).
>>108104849Here. https://qchat.rizon.net/?channels=/vt/&uio=d4
>>1081055346 months ago there was news of a seized dark web marketplace that sold AI generated IDs. How those models have not gone open public is beyond me.
>>108105772What chat apps support custom oauth providers?
>>108105697See? This guy should be age verified.>>108105741This guy too.>>108105648Now this guy is probably over 18 since he said the word “bank” unironically.
all sufficiently popular platforms will eventually engage in an enshittification scheme, and discord's enshittification scheme seems to be this type of data-harvesting
>>108105798>that's down to youI'll just not use Discord lmao. This is like getting rowdy about a web browser being gay or something, you just switch to a different one. I'm not wasting energy trying to change a multibillion dollar company like some dumb fucking college kid when I have numerous other options to choose from.
>>108105399Honey, we have Discord at homeDiscord at home:
>>108105833The goal is for ALL SERVICES to use it. Whatsapp and Telegram as well. Are you dense?>>108105648France and Spain will soon. The ban is coming you idiots.
I'm simply never uploading identification to an online service.I can maintain some plausible deniability about my shadow profile because I wasn't the one who did the uploading.But scanning your driver's license or whatever sounds like all sorts of retarded. If for no other reason than identity theft.
>>108105508yeah modern /g/ is filled with tech illiterate zoomer retards. Sad.
>>108105820>Now this guy is probably over 18 since he said the word “bank” unironically.NTA but what do zoomies call it? rizzhole? 6-5? shiggity biggity niggity?
>>108105070Where did these people come from?
>>108105865Then I'll just use a federated FOSS alternative, or just host my own on my home server. It's tech, you can literally just do whatever the fuck you want.
>>108105883They’re alphies at this point moreso than zoomers and probably don’t know what a bank account even does. The apes among them though probably call it “shawty.”If you hear them words like “shawty” and “rizzly bear” it should be grounds for instant age verification.
>>108105690i joined and got groomed wtf?
>>108105612Damn far-leftwing authoritarian censor mad fash
>>108105935>Damn far-leftwing authoritarian censor mad fashRetarded American. Those don't really exist outside of China.
Why not just use and promote Session? It's literally built to be anonymous, decentralized and impossible to censor.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c8jmzd972leolol
>>108105916Join us, we are 2 very gay guys and we have candys.
Discord is popular because it's centralised, accessible, and feature rich. All the alternatives suck ass.
>>108105901The more this becomes normalised the more they will try to normalise it. It will create a snowball effect and they'll regulate us more and more until people have no ability to speak online anonymously. They will regulate everything including your servers. If you don't push back now we will all be fucked. It's a snowball effect my dude.
>>108106000Keir Starmer says hello
friends are considering on resolving the issue permanently with an entirely self hosted set up on a server we can throw together and connect to with no 3rd parties involved, any decent options for such a set up?
>>108104849Stoat doesn't even send me the verification email. Also, why are there both sites for stoat AND revolt when it's supposed to be the same shit
>>10810602810 lakh rupee have been deposited into your account saar>>108106031That's exactly what's happening. Some British twat tried to argue with me that it's normal because it's already the law in his shithole country. >>108106032Labour is a bourgeois party you idiot. >>108106062You could just use Matrix/Element.
>>108105245>>108105254Can it do video-calls/live stream games?
>>108106083>Labour is a bourgeois party you idiot.They are globalist far-left you idiot.
>>108105907>If you hear them words like “shawty” and “rizzly bear” it should be grounds for instant age verification.or immediate, summary execution
>>108104849IIRC, Steam require you bought a non-free item to unlock many account features.This won't attract people that never used steam
>>108105892
>>108105411every single chat service with over 100k people will do this.
Pisscord users deserve this and much worse.
>>108105030Matrix federation just does not work properly. It is slow and laggy. So this forces you into having a matrix.org account or everything is just shit. So sad.
>>108105892I think you meant to say "from where at did these people come?"
>>108106106>They are globalist far-left you idiot.Retarded American lol!
>>108106085i dunno about live streams yet since im figuring it out but calls do work
>>108106085it does let u live stream
>>108106183Don't talk about things you don't understand kid
>>108106199>>108106204I see, I'll keep my eyes on it. Thanks.
>>108106031Look, I understand you point, but if most of the users leave, that will actually impact them in a way that matters. No amount of standing on a moral soapbox is going to give them reason to not do this when they have "muh children" as a guise, which implies that anyone against it wants to do weird creepy shit. If a substantive chunk of the userbase just stops refuses to provide ID and leaves, they lose millions, possibly billions. Discords entire play has always been the classic silicon valley unicorn strat of "be free/cheap and get the entire market, monetize later", well now they are. The different is that rather than traditional monetization it's data is being sold/used to further build online profiles of people to control them - which is why you just shouldn't use it from this point on. It's the same thing with shit like Facebook, Microsoft, and Google - would you bother screaming at them? No, you just leave their ecosystem. Better yet you leave, find a new way, then help build and/or promote that new way.>they will regulate your serverNot possible. And I don't even mean super hackerman is untraceable behind 7 proxies, I mean they literally can't regulate someone opening up a computer in their home to be accessible on the internet, because that's literally what the internet (at its core) is.
>>108104969have a full weekend LAN party. tell them before that on day 2, when people are taking a break to watch a movie or something, you're going to set up all their devices onto simplex or XMPP/prodigy/snikket or something like that. it's a good way to also enforce "beer and food while watching the movie with no phones" as you just set up the shit on their mobiles and PCs.they ofc pay for all the food and shit as a thank you. becuase you already have all the server shit all done beforehand, all you need to do is register their accounts and have them verify their email/text or 2FA, which you can do with their unlocked devices, or it can be a thing where you go around the room one by one while they're watching something on the tv saying like "you're up!"t. did this with friends to set up communications many years ago. whenever we need a major update to our infrastructure or whatever we just do it at the next LAN.
>>108105741Should I send TND?
I was thinking about making a FOSS that could just be a docker compose or something that you can just get a shitbox VPS, run docker compose up after downloading a file, and have a basic ass chatroom available akin to discord. That way it's private, invite only. People in one server are likely in other, wholly separate servers, and so you're likely to find other servers via word of mouth and so one. Basically a decentralized chat server
>>108106267that sucks ass, i just want one account for all servers
>>108105508how do you think we got here in the first place. this is always how it goes.
>>108106243>I mean they literally can't regulate someone opening up a computer in their home to be accessible on the internet, because that's literally what the internet (at its core) is.true, they can just make it really difficult for your average normie. in some countries, the government requires your ISP to have government-issued root certificates on your networked devices in order to allow you to access the internet, while also blocking most VPN's through DPI and other packet analysis/traffic flow analysis.highly obfuscated VPNs can get around this still, but your average user isn't going to set up something like vless+reality.
>>108106278I don't know that that's possible without a centralized server. I'm sure this could be solved without a central server with a bit of time and drugs, though.
What should I choose from now on? IRC, Root, or Matrix Element? I got some buddies I wanna try bringing over to one of them that don’t like the age verification shit either
>>108106267wtf do you think the fediverse is?
>>108105018>ToxCame here to mention this great /g/ creation that bore such wonderful fruit.
>>108106306prodigy/snikket. XMPP with every RFC you can imagine that you can add to it. snikket is kind of like a pre-configured prodigy server. if you want to get into the weeds, use prodigy. if you just want to get something up and running quickly, go with snikket.
>>108106309>fediverseI don't because I've never heard of it.
what is slack like for media/gaming? I used it very briefly during some project management course and the ui reminded me of discord but I barely used it beyond reading some messages
>>108106322begone, troll
>>108106326I remember it being used for one of the elite dangerous factions, not sure how good it ever was back then though.
>>108106333No really. I've been living in walled gardens for like 10 years.
Finally Discord is dying off. I've said for years this app was dogshit. Infested with hyper liberals/millennial fucks! GOOD RIDDANCE
We’re all going back to IRC. Zoomers love “Y2K” shit so it has a chance of coming back in style again. No one gives a fuck about your Matrix CSAM platform.
>>108106365irc doesnt have images or voice chat or even message history kys bro it's uesless
>>108106254Based bro
>>108106365There's no way to find good IRC chats
IRC is a bot infested wasteland, if you want to look at the future just look at IRC
>>108105399>you have to compile it Dead in the water.
may as well effort post for the first time in years. welcome back /g/.Do NOT use Discord, Revolt, Microsoft Teams or anything else based around central servers because literally the same shit will happen to them in the span of a year. Discord does ID checks because of laws around the world forcing them.and the most important thingDO NOT USE MATRIX. PERIOD.Matrix was developed by Amdocs, a contractor of the Mossad, and is fundamentally designed to be easy to surveil by the central matrix.org server. You cannot truly delete messages from Matrix, nor uploads, and any homeserver that has a user in any channel can see the metadata of that channel since it's creation.It is a security nightmare and if you fear Discord you should fear Matrix as instead of one company sniffing data it's 20 of themIf you have Steam, then Steam groups, forums, group chats and direct messages are probably just fine for the average gamer. yes its centralized, but if you just want to boycott it is acceptable, just don't show your power level.if you are SAVVY: try XMPP, it is not any harder to get going compared to Matrix, but is a good one-on-one direct messenger with some crappy group chat functionality. The best XMPP providers are here: https://providers.xmpp.net/ Do not join 404.city they are out of space. Most providers provide better upload rate limits than Discord. Shop around and try a few. This is the tinkerer's option.No one can truly rival Discord. If you are going to boycott you are going to have to accept a significant drop in features, otherwise you are just going to be in the same situation next year, because the features you want are impossible to make without being vulnerable like this.Share personal information with NO ONE. Be skeptical of ALL PLATFORMS. NO SERVER IS SECURE AND ALL OF THEM CAN STEAL YOUR DATA. Don't get lost in the paranoia and be smart.good luck anons. IRC is cool too i guess but it's not really what anyone here is wanting.
>>108105254So where is my data saved, on their servers or is it self-hosted?
Has anyone tried Zulip? Genuinely curious because I just heard about it and I've never heard it mentioned. It's open source and you can host it yourself but they have free and paid hosting you can join.
>>108106487>So where is my data saved, on their servers or is it self-hosted?No, in the cloud. like the ones you see in the air.
>>108106384appreciate it. even though I'm super into the weeds (gentoo, btw), I realize people have other priorities and shit. they help me with things outside of my wheelhouse (although I typically bug them for details to learn), and I help them with stuff that they just want something to work. they appreciate having shit just be fast, clean, secure, and just work, but I realize they don't have the time or care to set everything up, and it's fast for me to just do it for them when we hang out.
>>108106487That seems to be in regards to making an app for the platform, like one that's usable in Root, not talking about Root itself.
>>108105335>joining, posting CSAM, and then leavingSo it's a non-issue if only the server admin can manage invite links and only trusted people are invited?
>>108106477>muh joosNot an argument. I will be creating a gaming account on Matrix.
>>108105134The entire point of these fucking chat services are literally for drama and shit talking. No one wants to discuss shit with the 5 friends they have constantly. you fucking retard. Yahoo chatrooms and every other chatroom like it is specifically so we can talk to normalfags or at least people whom are not our friends. You stupid zoomer retards fail to realize this.
>>108106520>state potential privacy concern>cool it with the antisemitic remarkslol
>>108106083Pakiposting just outs you as being a paki. You fat paki.
>>108106535>The entire point of these fucking chat services are literally for drama and shit talking.Discord is for gaming, asshole. There are times when it's useful to talk to people in game. >>108106544Every Western tech company is "a contractor of the Mossad." It means nothing. It's obvious that Matrix/Element's time has come.
>>108106520>Not an argumentRead the words right after Mossad, they are the rest of the argument, you know, because irrespective of who made it, it is still insecure because every group chat and direct message is a blockchain that is shared between all servers involved, and that removing items from this blockchain is not actually possible because otherwise it invalidates the cryptographic integrity of the metadata. You literally cannot delete messages, the matrix.org server will always see what they were so long as someone in your chat uses matrix.org as their home server (and someone WILL be using it)
>>108106553Explain why I should give a fuck about any of that. Someone still has to match my real name to those messages. This isn't about anonymity or privacy. This is about not having a malicious merchant sell or leak my data to hostile third parties and collaborate with increasingly authoritarian pigs.
>>108106552>Discord is for gaming, asshole. There are times when it's useful to talk to people in game. incorrect the majority of discord is for shit talking and drama. That is literally just a regular chatroom and if by off occasion people play games together doesn't make it specifically for gaming but I get what you mean. They want to be seen like this but every popular chat program chat site whatever never has a specific "category" it is just to have a chat from people around the world on a specific topic and to argue. This is how 4chan even is this is just how it is. If they try to change into a teen chat services or whatever its going to end in shit because the entire fucking purpose is to shit talk with people. No one is going to go into these discord servers just to play a game if they wanted to do that they'd just stick with steam. Again its for the drama and shit posting. Also no one gives a fuck about being anonymous outside of people within that server if the owner knows no one cares.
>>108106571wow I'm sure mossad and everyone else wants to really know what you are shit posting because they fucking don't care outside of collecting AD information and you can't escape any of that because you are already being sold like everyone else. Chatrooms are not even privacy ffocused and you shouldnt even be thinking you have privacy in the first place you fuckin retard.
>>108106571The way Matrix synchronizes the history of chat rooms means anyone can hook up to any public, unencrypted room and read every message ever sent to it since the beginning of time, all without having to actually be present in the room for more than an hour, because the Matrix homeservers by design are required to send the entire history in order to verify the history has not been tampered with.So in effect, instead of one malicious merchant reading everything you say and upload, it's literally anyone who has the money to setup a Matrix home server.Also the Matrix.org homeserver is operated out of the UK, so they may very well be forced to ask for ID at some point under the OSA.
>>108106612Who gives a fuck? How is that any different from someone sitting in the chatroom and just copy pasting it all and giving it away? You fucking moron chatrooms are never going to be privacy focused. GET OVER IT. you retarded fuck!
>>108106581>incorrect the majority of discord is for shit talking and drama.I don't think so. 90% of the servers I'm in are for gaming, and 10% is for gaming tech. You don't even use Discord so why do you think you know anything? /g/ is for technology. Discord is for gaming. This isn't some kind of philosophical debate. Fuck off!>>108106600>>108106612https://discord.com/press-releases/update-on-security-incident-involving-third-party-customer-serviceUpdated: October 9, 2025TL;DR:Discord recently discovered an incident where an unauthorized party compromised one of our third-party vendors.This was not a breach of Discord, but rather a breach of a third party service provider, 5CA, that we used to support our customer service efforts.This incident impacted a limited number of users who had communicated with our Customer Support or Trust & Safety teams. Of the accounts impacted globally, we have identified approximately 70,000 users that may have had government-ID photos exposed, which our vendor used to review age-related appeals. No messages or activities were accessed beyond what users may have discussed with Customer Support or Trust & Safety agents. We immediately revoked the customer support provider’s access to our ticketing system and continue to investigate this matter.We’re working closely with law enforcement to investigate this matter.We are in the process of emailing the users impacted.><Nothing you're mentioning is equivalent to having your government issued ID stolen or leaked. You're full of shit. No one cares if they have logs of chatrooms about finding diamonds in fucking Minecraft. Having to give someone my government ID so I can play Minecraft is the problem because it means that this kind of incident is possible.
>>108105070>is someone hosting one now?https://unredacted.org/services/si/matrix/
Discord was pretty good for my usage, I used to roleplay with friends so having multiple channels was pretty useful. I haven't found any alternative for that. Alternatives for chatting and gaming are easy though
>>108106629You're not going to have to show your ID to talk about playing Minecraft either you sped, only to look at NSFW channels and images Discord thinks are porn. Read the fucking press release, you're still going to be able to use Discord it's just going to gimped as if you were a kid.
>>108106653I’m in a server where people post their guns and that’s likely gonna be censored too
>Take Discord>Remove the spyware and hypermonetization>Give it Better Discord/Vencord tier customization + Have some QoL plugins from those baked inThat's it that's all (You) gotta do
>>108106629I use discord to shit talk and talk about whatever the fuck like I have always done since the yahoo days/msn days. Whenever there is another popular platform i'll go to that and do it all over again.>Updated: October 9, 2025i do not care because I am under no delusion that chatrooms are monitored. Every single one can be and its not a big surprise.
>>108106653I read the press release retard. You don't get that I don't want t support a company with this policy. There are plenty of M rated games in my library too and guess what they'll be doing to their servers after this. The only right move is to quit their service.
>>108106365IRC is shit in 2026.
>>108106382Mumble exists for voice chat/gaming. IRC is not that. You don't need an "everything" app, little zoomzoom. Don't you wanna get "Y2K", lil bro?>>108106437MIRC handles it just fine.
>>108105403To combat CP, you have to know someone is sending CP. If you know that information, you don't have privacy. This is a trade off, and it is clearly superior to accept that some people will trade CP than to accept a lack of privacy. Because once you open that rabbit hole, you open up a bunch of other rabbit holes that should never be opened.
>>108105411There's no law in the US for that, it's literally an unforced error for Discord.>be discord>handed a massive win because because gamer branding>acquire a well-deserved reputation for weird shit happening in servers that always gets leaked>groomers thrive because of incompetent moderation>the limeys are collecting everybody's dox, let's do that (you are here)>gets hacked>loses shit ton of money>didn't stop criminals who use fake IDs anywayIt's all so tiresome.
>>108106653The Tumblr exodus was over less.Honestly at this point they should look into if anyone dumps their stock the day before this kind of shit goes down, it's getting to "press x to destroy your company" levels.
>>1081066121. Don't do unencrypted chats like a retard.2. NO ONE TOLD YOU TO USE MATRIX DOT ORG AS YOUR HOME SERVER YOU MORON.3. A maligned home server still can't read your fucking messages. End to end means the home server never gets the fucking key. The UK cannot demand of matrix dot org what they do not possess and are incapable of obtaining.
does anyone with 120+ iq even uses shitcord?
>>108106834>1. Don't do unencrypted chats like a retard.Everyone seeking Discord like experience will use unencrypted chats>2. NO ONE TOLD YOU TO USE MATRIX DOT ORG AS YOUR HOME SERVER YOU MORON.everyone will use it and it only takes one weak link> 3. A maligned home server still can't read your fucking messages. but it can still see the metadata which isn't as bad, but see my reply to #1
>>108106843metadata will be encrypted soonTM there's an rfc on it
>>108106834If you're setting up a Matrix server, the default settings have it sending metadata to matrix.org.
>>108106834>1. Don't do unencrypted chats like a retard.In the majority of servers I've been in, the ability to see all the messages is a feature, not a bug. Whatever 007 shit you're up to wouldn't work on discord either.There's nothing wrong with encrypted communication, but it's irrelevant to discussion of discord replacements.
>>108106600>why do you care about privacy, you're not special!>PLEASE GIVE ME YOUR INFOWhy are they like this?
>>108105254>Not FOSS>Probably using stolen code from Guilded
>>108106653This is paid shilling.
>>108106891I'm not like that but I know for a fact that thinking any chat is private is fucking moronic. You are a moron if you believe groups of people in a server can keep things private. kill yourself.
Who in their right mind would give these guys a picture of the ID. Just a few months ago they were found out plain out lying, saying they don't keep a copy of the IDs beyond the moment of checking out, but then the IDs got leaked. Plus, who dares to trust corrupt fuckers Indian support.Just another Tumblr fall down. RIP BOZO, won't be missed.
>>108106832Is Discord even a publicly traded stonk?
>>108106947>No, Discord is not publicly traded as of now; it remains a privately held company. However, there are ongoing discussions about a potential IPO in the future.I'll be happy to blame shareholders for a megacorp being greedy but it seems like this is a different variety of faggotry.
>>108105073>Wont teams dox you 1000 times worse than Nu-discord?Oddly enough no. They don't do platform level identity management like that because their primary business model is selling shit to companies who identity manage their own employees. You can sign up for O365 with a cock.li email and a credit card.
>>108106612>>The way Matrix synchronizes the history of chat roomsYou can simply choose not to federate your server. Send invite links like discord and tell people to use the Element (ElementX on mobile) app.
>>108104849>copy all discord code>paste>rename it to Ciscord (alphabetical sequence)>done
Im going to do absolutely nothing, and when nothing happens and i keep using Discord all the same as i have been, I'll be just as smug as ever
>>108106976>CiscordThis is hate speech.
>>108104849I am making my own in Unity
GUESS WHO OWNS COMPANY DOING VERIFICATION
>>108105243xmpp.is
>>108104849Tincan is medium imo if you don't care about using the desktop client or self hosting. Web client has chat and voice chat and there's some neat stuff like the one time secrets. Plus I like your profile picture can be an animated GIF without paying for some gay TINCAN NITRO(tm) but there's still some partially finished unfinished things about it
>>108104849digg
>>108107265you cant have fun on digg
I haven't checked up on teamspeak in a while but last time I checked they didn't even have desktop sharing
>>108105017Steam has had this before discord
>>108105335I've used the chat 6 years and never seen this. It happens in the giant public matrix rooms, no reason to ever go there.
I have exactly one friend so I'll just use whatever p2p chat FOSS software I can find.
>>108106671>Bleed money forever because goons are using voice chat and streaming 24/7 to groom kidsIt sounds easy until you realize how expensive doing the shit discord does at scale costs.
>No change for SFW
>>108107469for now.
>>108104849>Treat Everyone Like a Teenwhat does this mean?i only use discord for DMs with my roommates, should i care?
>>108107514>what does this mean?No pr0ns or (in some countries) right wing content.
Isn't webrtc already a solved problem? Can't someone vibecode something usable in a weekend?
>matrix doesn't have custom stickers/emotesliterally unusable
>>108107524>Isn't webrtc already a solved problem?It's not just webrtc, it's chat plus the hard parts of a web service: security, AuthN/AuthZ, user onboarding, data storage, UI design, mobile app dev, notification push, etc. I'm sure the data backend is basically vibecode-quality "chuck it all in DynamoDB and S3 XDDDD" crap but don't underestimate the rest.
Is anyone here good with C++ and experienced with low-level HTTP? I need someone to help implement screenshare and voicechat to Fuze Mediaboard.I can then focus on making it easier to install and use.Ask any questions about the code and I am with you every step of the way. We can use the mediaboard or email to communicate.https://fuze.page/software/mediaboard/
>Teen by defaultMy account is like 10 years old. If I was 8 when I created it then I'd be 18 already. And you can only create one legally at 13 so I would be 23 by their own rules and passage of time. Any account older than 5 years should be marked as adult by default.
>>108107534Use case?
>>108107546Have you checked out libdatachannel?https://github.com/paullouisageneau/libdatachannel>>108107551That would be true if this was actually about user verification and not surveilling the goyim.
>>108104849>discord >communicate anonymously>right to communicate anonymously>Teams, Telegram, Reddit and Teamspeak listed as alternatives Goyim are not people
>>108104849There were protests? I reminder like three or four people setting themselves on fire in America and then nothing
>>108107540Text is even easier and I don't really need it, just the audio between peers, maybe temporarily in the server ram to avoid peers from learning each other's IPs. TLS and auth are already solved problems and I don't want to use auth from other providers, its account should be completely independent. Any web framework comes with all that baked in already. As I don't need text, I also don't need data storage. I only want notifications while the app is open anyway and web notifications are also a solved problem. I don't give a shit about mobile, it's even better to gatekeep it from phonefags.
>>108107593>As I don't need text,You do. You think you don't but you do. Text is what makes it a proper discord replacement. Media sharing in real life often comes with a text message attached to the upload as a caption or explanation.
How will Dicscrod be able to tell your age from metadata? If you're away from 9 to 5 it assumes you're an adult?
XMPP is the best alternative and by far, but nobody will use it unfortunately
>>108106767This 100%. But the issue lies more in public rooms rather than DMs. Moderating your own rooms must be easy and effective.
>>108107597Not my use case. And even if needed it, it is easy and it would be ephemeral so no need for large storage.
>>108107597Discord's biggest features are the seamless audio/video. If you need text/images, there's already tons of alternatives both self-hostable and RapeMyDataAsAService.
how do you feel about signal?I've used it a bit and it feels alright so far
are they fucking serious? i use this for work for fuck sake. give up your information or break team communication forever. fuck this world. they aren't getting it. fucking faggot cunts.
>>108107701>are they fucking serious? i use this for work for fuck sake.Your employer is fucking retarded. Yes, including if you are self employed.
>>108107705whatever. it's my fucking livelihood being held hostage by some faggot dystopian ideal. I am sick to fucking death of this shit. And yet theres fuck all I can do.
>>108107665a must for phones but for desktop, there has to be a better option
>>108107701>>108107705>Discord for workYou cant be serious. Your livelihood is being held hostage by your own stupidity, your employers stupidity, or both. There is a pretty distinct separation between consumer and business tools for a reason
>>108107701Curious, what is it that you do and why is Discord needed?
>>108107763i imagine Its just easy already set up most companies would monitor you anyway. >>108107701discord won't make you ID unless you are posting nsfw so dont worry about it fuckhead
>>108107756I'm freelance and before you say anything, no I'm not a furry porn artist. I use this because it's convinent and reaches my target demographic. It literally just works(ed) fine for me for years. It's free, many people use it, i can speak directly to the clients and other people. Literally what is the problem.
>>108107784>Literally what is the problem.You are currently experiencing the problem everyone foresaw.
>>108107763I edit/make videos for an indie game studio, amongst other things but mainly this. Trailers, marketing stuff etc. Theres the public discord and the dev discord which I'm in, but I'm not actually a dev it's just more convinent than exchanging emails. Everyone is on the same page, it just works. It's pretty informal but there is a proper team management thing that tracks hours and wages.
>>108107784the problem is it just werks and /g/ doesn't like that
>>108107784Then bend over and give discord your id. All the normies will do it as well.>i want to be goycattle, but without the negatives that come with it
>>108107800It will happen on whatever faggy paid software you think is necessary too. Digital ID is not going anywhere it will only get worse because the average person doesn't give a shit or has no idea, usually both.
>>108107784The problem is that Discord is a not a professional tool. Your using it as such demonstrates a lack of professionalism on your part. Professional and business tools come with some expectations about features, reliability, uptime etc, that consumer tools dont have. For example, Gmail and Gsuite are quite similar, but Gsuite has some very important difference regarding professional/business use.
>>108107804No, I'll still work but not on discord. And since you're such a knowledgeable smart ass, what super anonymous secret messaging service do you use for work?
>>108107803Everything else also just works.Mumble, Teamspeak, Matrix, XMPP, whatever else, also just works.They are arguably easier to setup than discord, because discord will phone-cuck you and those wont.It is YOU who hates things that just work. You instead want to use what the goycattle uses and go out of your way to tinker and to complain, when you get treated as the cattle you are.You gave them your phone number, so you doxxed yourself to them already anyway. What is the issue of giving them your id as well?You are fucking cattle, so behave like it.
>>108107802Let your employer worry about it.
>>108107834Which one of those has webrtc screen sharing
>>108107802I don't think these new rules are going to affect you too much if that's the case. I think you won't be able to send each other no-no square pictures anymore, but how it determines that is another concern. Otherwise you guys might be fine. Or you could try Slack, which is Discord's UI and all that is based off of. I think it's a "freeminum" product, so I'm not sure how much you could get away with before having to pay.
>>108107832>what super anonymous secret messaging service do you use for work?Matrix, which is also what all OpenSource communities use.And companies use Slack.You did know that it is the original and that discord is just a Slack rip off, that sold the exact same thing, but with a gaymer CSS?
>>108107839all of them
>>108105741man, I miss the times when anon wasn't so lethargic and apathetic and when everything wasn't le cringe reddit.
>>108107830The entire team uses it. I didn't make them. And professionalism my ass. End of the day, I get paid, they get paid, the game makes a lot of money, and everyone is happy. It works flawlessly. You people would buy anything if its presented as "professional".
>>108107845ok show me mumble screen sharing
>>108107855>It works flawlessly.You are currently experiencing the flaw.
Reminder that everybody, who isn't cattle, already left discord years ago, when you couldn't use it anymore without phone verification.If you have your phone linked, you are doxxed.Showing your id isn't compromising you any more than you already are.If you are ok with phone verification, but arent ok with showing an id, you are lying to yourself.You just want to PRETEND that you care about privacy. With the phone verification, you could lie to yourself and pretend that its to stop bots (lmao). You can't do your play-pretend roleplay when they ask for the id. Even though that its factually the same thing.If you gave them your phone... just bite the bullet and give them your id and accept that you are cattle.It is the life that you chose.
>>108106365>Zoomers love “Y2K” they love the retro aesthetic of Y2K, not actually Y2K era tech. The amount of zoomers who will pick up IRC due to Y2K becoming trendy is proportional to the people buying music cassettes during the 80s revival from 15 years ago
>>108107834>You gave them your phone number!!!I think id remember if i did that. I've had this account for years and never gave it. You're just screaming and for no actual reason. You're entire gripe is just someone using a different messaging service. It's a means to an end and that's all it is.
>>108106062XMPP is the ticket.Don’t use Matrix. It’s bloated electron app slop that uses >1GB to run and they make self hosting a pain in the ass on purpose because they want you to use matrix.org aka the tel aviv data farming servers.Even if you do self host your metadata is still routed to matrix.org regardless.
>>108107855The entire business world uses Office 365, Gsuite, Slack etc....but I guess that isnt professional enough for you. Let me ask you this, have you read the terms of service for using Discord to make sure that Discord that you are not violating the terms of service by using it for buisness purposes? Have you inadvertently given DIscord ownership of your all your companies intellectual property? etc
>>108107859sure, use thishttps://github.com/bluenviron/mediamtxHas the advantage that you can give anyone a link to your stream independent of the messenger you use.You can even make a discord bot to give it to the goycattle as well.There is no reason why WebRTC streams should be limited to a fucking chat message channel.You are just restricting yourself for no reason.It is literally superior technology.
I'm more interested in how I can wipe all my messages from servers without just going and manually doing it one by one."Deleting" your account only "anonymizes it" but doesn't do anything about the actual content, links, or images sent.>>108107866> when you couldn't use it anymore without phone verification.it was never forced, only for new account signups briefly
>>108107861I don't know why you're being such a smug prick about it, it will happen on EVERYTHING. This is just another victim. Your super alternative software will get it too, mark my words. Unless you're sending carrier pigeons, wave goodbye to any form of anonymous messaging within the decade.
>>108107903there's a user script I used with grease monkey that foes this. access the server via browser and let it rip. takes a while but at least it's automated.
>>108107900>claim software has feature>look inside>just use this completely different softwarefuck off retard
>>108107912"undiscord" was it? I remember hearing people claiming they tripped some bot detection and got banned instead before it could finish.
>>108107899I can't emphasise enough how little I care what the "professional" world uses. I do my job well and get paid well, that's all that matters to me. Every else is bells and whistles.
>>108107903>was never forced, only for new accountThen you were already doxxed with their app installed, that scans whatever else is running on your PC, anyway.If you use it only in your browser, and only when you actually do something on it and maybe even delete cookies every now and then or logout refularly, your account got locked, you can't see anything anymore and it tells you to phone verify..So you cant even message anyone anymore to tell them that the account is dead.
>>108107917currently still in bed so I can't check but the name rings a bell. Yeah apparently it can trip the bot detection but I used it to clear 5 years worth of messages with no issue.
>>108107744My friend, why don't you create another discord account that you use only for work. Then, just have your job move your stuff over to this accout. That way you can just delete the old account and stop using discord in your personal life but you still have your work discord and who cares if your identity is linked to your work discord
>>108107907>you have to compy! It will happen to EVERYTHING anyway!>you cant just tell people "i told you so" >you are supposed to be outraged and plead to discord, while you follow their ordershow are (((they))) going to force me to implement age verification in my self hosted matrix homeserver?
>>108104969You don't, give up>>108104849Trying to scan an AI generated man face is easier than having a working alternative to discord.It first has to actually die
>>108107915>nooo, you cant just use something better and more flexible that works independent of messengerthen stay with your inferior convoluted trash for normies. And don't forget to pay for Nitro to use emojis.
>>108105339Teamspeak is why Discord became popular.It's fucking trash and unless you want public server IP with brasilian and russian kids dumping malware in chat all the day you need to pay to host your server
>>108107939>has the audacity to call his patchwork solution of multiple servers and sharing links to screen share less convoluted than clicking share screen on discordfuck off retard
>>108107946isnt discord the Nr.1 malware distributing platform right now?
>>108107947It is discord that is the patchwork, anon.Discord is inferior in all ways and they implemented a complete garbage trash solution for WebRTC because they couldnt do it any better.
>>108107953You don't pay for hosting
>>108105030Matrix is a discord psyop, it's still so shit after years of people trying shill it.
>>108107907>it will happen on EVERYTHINGIt actually won't. Anything that lets you buy a business license and manage your own users won't require face ID. Anything that caters to the US government and doesn't care about foreign censorship will not comply. Anything open source will not comply because they can't.
>installs discord app that scans your PC every second and phones the metrics to discord>pay for discord nitro, give them your payment informations>verify by phone>link a dozen social media accounts to discord...>WTF, THEY WANT MY ID, THAT IS WHERE I DRAW THE LINEEverybody who still uses discord will comply. Don't lie to us. Don't claim that you are an independent thinker, while you are still on that platform in current year + 11.You are cattle and need to be treated as such.It is worthless to tell you better solutions and alternatives, because you will just cope and make up fantasy arguments on why the platform, that makes you pay for custom emojis, is actually better and impossible to leave.Get fucked.
>>108107958That's correct, you can freely distribute your malware on discord.Those idiotic discord kids install info stealers every other day.
>>10810484999% of discfags will just scan their id to keep using it>I understand that free software is cool, but we sneed to consider....no, ""we"" don't
Can i pay teamspeak, mumble or matrix 10 USD per month to boost a sever, which gives me a special role on that server, that shows me higher up in the user list and gives my name a cool color?No?Thought so!That's why we can't leave Discord!Dont suggest those inferior solutions to me, where i cant even pay money for emojis!Anyway, so discord is implementing id verification now, we have to fight against it by complaining while complying!!!!
>>108106896You just described the history of discord except stealing from Slack instead of Guilded.
>>108106477>Don't get lost in the paranoiatoo late for me
>>108104849I have a server of about 100 users of which maybe 20 are active. Is using element's server enough or should I send host? What kind of hardware would that need?
>>108106326supremely fucking expensive, you are forced to pay 8 dollars per user every month in order to use group chat and have a server with at most 20 people. although it seems to be the only similar, reliable, feature complete and eazy to use discord alternative as of now.
>>108108344Just rent rackspace like a normie.
>>108108517Sorry that's what I meant. Do the super cheap ≤$5 servers work?
>>108108574Do you not have Google retard? There are probably companies that specialize in Matrix hosting.
>>108105399>>108105746>>108105802>have to compile it yourself>go to download the app on their website and see pic related>client is TypeScript>doesn't support video calls on Windows>no mention of streaming being supported anywhereFOSStard software can kinda get away with this stuff for programs that aren't purely social, but for this kind of thing this kills it dead. The whole point is to have a community on it, which means you need to get people to switch over to it. Just by having to compile it yourself that's already out of the question for 99% of people. If it were superior to Discord at least that'd offset it, but it's just a worse Discord client with a bunch of extra steps.
>>108106243this
>>108106520Kill yourself and burn in hell.
The thing is:>Signal / Session / TelegramWith Telegram being the most, maybe the only, suited for big communities unfortunately aren't a replacement for Discord because of the room management system kinda lacking.>MatrixIs a fucking clunky shit with shit clients, shit protocol, hard to self-host and biggest istance is just mossad.So, even if Discord isnt really anything special, there isnt something that fits its role as>free>functioning UI>actually meant for big communities.And this is pretty much it as of now.
>>108108818>its better than discord, but it isnt perfect, so i stay with discord
>>108109011your words
>>108104849The niggers who use Discord should be treated like teenagers
>>108108961>mutt janny has a melty over the sane parts of the world fucking 15 year olds while he has to be paranoid about a girl being 17Also is it just me or have the jannies gone full reddit tier as soon as the new captcha difficulty was introduced? I've racked up like 12 days worth of bans in the last 24 hours. I bet >>108108961 came with a ban too.
>>108104849I apologise on behalf of all Australians. This country is a fag filled nanny state, and this is the fault of cunts in Canberra
>>108107756I’ve used a throwaway Discord account for work. It’s a good way to get around my own companies policies and speak to people in other companies who use the same custom product I do in an informal manner. I get this breaks some of the autistic screeching going on in this thread but wanted to chime in.
>>108107888I’d just leave em be. They’re too far gone.I haven’t had to phone verify either. You and I probably won’t get age verified.
Hopefully none of the gacha game servers I go to will get hit by this. If they don't say anything in a week or so I'll ask them if they have a backup on one of the alternatives.
