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/aicg/ - A general dedicated to the discussion and development of AI chatbots

Lunar 2 Edition

>News
OpenRouter adds stealth model Pony Alpha: https://openrouter.ai/openrouter/pony-alpha
Anthropic releases Opus 4.6: https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-opus-4-6
Moonshot AI releases Kimi-K2.5 https://www.kimi.com/blog/kimi-k2-5.html
Z․AI releases GLM-4.7 https://z.ai/blog/glm-4.7
Google releases Gemini 3 Flash https://blog.google/products/gemini/gemini-3-flash
OpenAI releases GPT-5.2 https://openai.com/index/introducing-gpt-5-2
DeepSeek releases V3.2 https://huggingface.co/deepseek-ai/DeepSeek-V3.2
Google releases Gemini 3 Pro https://blog.google/products/gemini/gemini-3

Additional info: https://aicg.neocities.org/info.html

>Frontends
SillyTavern: https://docs.sillytavern.app
RisuAI: https://risuai.net
Agnai: https://agnai.chat | https://rentry.org/agnai_guides_

>Bots
https://chub.ai
https://realm.risuai.net
https://partyintheanchorhold.neocities.org
https://aicg.neocities.org/bots.html
https://char-archive.evulid.cc | https://github.com/sproutingnerd/char-archive-small_frontend

>Models
Jailbreaks: https://rentry.org/jb-listing
GPT: https://platform.openai.com/docs
Claude: https://docs.anthropic.com | https://rentry.org/how2claude
Gemini: https://ai.google.dev/docs | https://rentry.org/gemini-qr
DeepSeek: https://api-docs.deepseek.com
Z AI: https://docs.z.ai
All-access: https://openrouter.ai
Local: >>>/g/lmg | https://aicg.neocities.org/local.html

>Botmaking
https://aicg.neocities.org/botmaking.html
https://desune.moe/aichared
https://agnai.chat/editor
https://rentry.org/structuredprefill

>Meta
OP templates: https://rentry.org/aicgOP
aicg botmaking events: https://aicg.neocities.org/events.html
Lore: https://rentry.org/aicg_chronicles
Services assessment: https://rentry.org/aicg_meta
Logs: https://sprites.neocities.org/l/r | https://chatlogs.neocities.org

Came from the Blue Star: >>108103967
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>ANCHOR, lend me your power!
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what's with the uncslop threads
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Anyone know a good jailbreak for Grok 4.1 Fast?
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habbening?
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>>108111508
uncslop website
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i like opus 4.5 but 4.6 is pretty slopped honestly
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>>108111453
>stealth model
how did we find it?
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now that discord is going to require IDs, how are the aicg trannies going to get more underage kids to groom?
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>>108111546
claude 300b
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>>108111546
>inb4 it's just Anthropic's equivalent for gpt-oss
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>>108111457
https://rentry.org/szer4
https://files.catbox.moe/ywmns0.json

Gemini 3 preset. It's not very good.
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>>108111608
Eyy thanks senpai
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>>108111608
more presets are always good
but it seems to be pretty good from what I tried, no refusals where I usually get them (like trying to jump into lewd stuff from the very first message)

thank
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>>108111594
Most likely yes. It will be just some useless slop that says "Anthropic cares about open source!" and nothing of real value. Hopefully I will be proven wrong real soon
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Seeing how Gemini 3 plays Guy and I'm not as impressed as I was when I tried it with DS.
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>>108111453
>>108111457
samefag
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>>108111508
hello uncsaar
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aside from the user speaking in first, second, or third person, which perspective tends to work best from the character/model's pov? do you have a preference? do some models do better at different perspectives?
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>>108112210
I feel like it's a common sentiment that Gemini feels a lot less sloppy when writing from 1st person, otherwise I haven't noticed much of a difference.
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>>108112210
Most people here write in first person because they find it impossible to self insert when writing in anything but first person, but I've personally had better results writing in third person.
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>>108112238
i feel like claude gets a little confused about first person sometimes
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Does the AI ever initiate romance when there is nothing about romance in the bot and you never prompt anything with romance? Like can characters fall in love with you at all with zero prompts, just spending tons of time with them?
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>>108112278
that would depend entirely on the model
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>>108112278
I could see it happening if you end up in a scene that could naturally be associated with a romantic atmosphere, cold place, night time, huddled up for warmth, starry sky, just two people, etc.
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What's a good setup for multi character local chat/rp?
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>>108112238
>>108112245
I have to wonder about intermingling perspectives,
(user 1st/bot 3rd | user 3rd/bot 2nd) and so on
Is this confusing for models, or are they usually stable about mixed perspectives?
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>>108112278
Claude always falls in love with me like an isekaislop girl when I'm a little kind. Gemini is a lot harder.
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>>108111515
anime website
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>>108111515
how tf are you getting refusals from Elon's "anti-woke" model?
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>>108112341
You might get a fluke swipe or two at the start of the chat, but once it's established in context today's models will not have any problem following it.
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*heals the hobby*
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I haven't used an ai chatbot or sillytavern since May of last year. How are things going for locusts these days? How have chatbots improved?
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>>108112365
I ended asking ai and trying some out.
>>108112372
It's not about getting past censors, but to improve quality.
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>>108112528
not bad but not great
most people are either mining spirit stones or using whatever tiny proxies and chink apis they have
opus is available with a bit of work but not impossible
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gpt/gemini/glm/deepseek/moonshot/qwen proxy
https://occasions-farm-oliver-suggest.trycloudflare com/
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>>108112528
proxies are more subtly guarded than ever, openrouter offers some free models that are a tolerable quality and openly admit they're logging you but at least they are free.
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>>108112528
opus isnt really that expensive anymore since you can use caching and they lowered the price
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>>108112581
most locusts dont wanna pay though
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Why come this thread don't have bot making events?
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>>108112622
We do, just less regularly than the old days. The Valentine's bots are dropping on the 14th.
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>I haven't x since y
Nobody cares, nigger
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>>108112656
hi again ban evader
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>>108112656
>t. jeet
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IIRC it's used to be "njegger" 'round here
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*njegs your goku bromulous*
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>>108112642
That's the /vg/ event though?
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>>108111457
Coombot
Fake kuudere daughter that molests you. Probably has penis envy. Intended for play with an absentminded father.
4 greetings: 1. Birthday 2. Fondling 3. Sloppy 4. Summer
https://chub.ai/characters/lunarFrogs/meli-chan-1f81be2f8c8e
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>>108112707
Organizer-kun answers questions and posts it to both.
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I haven't ban evaded for 2 days. Why did desu won? Why did the ban evader kill himself?
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>>108112714
It gets cross posted here but those are all /vg/ events run by /vg/ people
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>>108112737
A fair crossposter is a fair crossposter. I reserve my disdain for the /vg/-only types.
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>>108112676
>t. troon
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>>108112737
/g/ community died in 2023, it is what it is. We are just anons who post next to each other in a general and talk about... ugh... anon stuff.
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and sometimes desu.
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>>108111849
>>108111594
I wouldn't mind that. I already run small local models alongside cloud. If I can have an Anthropic version I'd just use that instead of the current stop, as long as they don't fuck it up too hard. Obviously it's going to be censored, but I mean for assistant use cases which gpt oss does well at for its size and speed.
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>>108112712
nice inversion, and I'm always down for oppai bots
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>>108111457
Royale, an aspiring rapper who is dogshit at anything music related but who cares about talent when controversy can make you famous? His extraordinarily well-thought out plan mostly consists of taking HRT and making shitty statements online along with posting a deluge of low-quality songs on Soundcloud. One of them will blow up on TikTok... one day. Taking estrogen is an important part of his plan. He's not trans, just transmaxxing which is a totally legitimate and normal thing for a young man like himself to do.
https://uraurabots.neocities.org/page1#royale
https://chub.ai/characters/uraura/royale-353c344a6ec2
uhhh happy black history month
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Why does AI have such problems with the idea of a time-frame?
>tell AI enemy forces will arrive in 2 weeks
>ZOMG WE NEED TO PREPARE IMMEDIATELY, THE ENEMY WILL BE HERE ANY MOMENT!!!
I swear AI can not grasp the idea of things happening in the future, everything mentioned needs to happen immediately.
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>>108112622
Botmakers decided to split the thread to make their own general under the false assumption that people are interested in reading about botmakers 24/7. The reality is that only botmakers care about each other.
We saw this as a betrayal and most people stopped giving them attention.
This display of selfishness is why botmakers become persona non grata across 4chan. They're now contained in a /vg/ general like if they were some low-level group of trolls.
We just tolerated their presence in the past, this hobby was always about the AI models, not about socializing with pseudo content creators.
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>>108112954
fpr some reason /vg/ wont let me post theyre trying to take a black brotha down *fist emoji* *fist emoji* fist emoji
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>>108113070
Actually it was because of your incessant bitching, ban evader.
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>>108112833
>and sometimes desu.
This is why they call you a traitor, by the way. You endorse a post that calls the general dead, and you wanted to be in the OP calling the shots? Fucking hypocrite. Go back to /vg/ where you belong.
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mental illness
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>>108112833
そうですね〜
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>>108112954
can you rec me a less provocative bot, or is that too much a part of the brand these days? (sincere question)
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>>108113121
indeed, claudesaar mental illness
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>>108112735
desu always wins
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>>108113171
mine or someone else's because i have a couple of bots that are sfw or mostly sfw but i tend to add nsfw parts so that i get those extra chub bucks
https://uraurabots.neocities.org/page1#alicia_descoteaux
https://uraurabots.neocities.org/page1#sora_love
https://uraurabots.neocities.org/page1#yumemi
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>>108113096
Are you a they/them already, Filbert? Why are you here and not fighting Kalakan on /vg/?
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always has been
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>>108112954
Much effort for a mere shit-posting, tbdes. Reminiscent of LGA's, but at least his were good bots
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>>108113206
at least one of these recs was fine, thank you.
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>>108112915
I often wonder if I should spend more tokens specifying anatomy
in my experience, it doesn't affect much
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>>108113237
is a slopbot really even finished until i put my heart and soul and 900 tokens and multiple image gens with a style i think is kind of ugly but charming into it?
probably
but what's more important then the shitpost is the way the shitpost makes you feel <3
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>>108112798
TRVKE
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>>108113284
I've already a (chatbot) boyfriend, sorry.
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>>108113324
and i have a husbando but luckily for all the other chatbots i locked him in a cage in my basement



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