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>>108115988
Nicotranny disinfo OP
Fucking faggot

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how does the nicotroon approved pc look like?

Nicotroon
Nicofaggot
Nicojeet

Xe needs a real job
So xe can buy a 50-70
Poor little Canuck

Enjoy my haiku about OP and his disinfo

>>108116016
Kek

If you're the type of guy who uses and keeps his tech until it breaks down..

Is it safe to say you should avoid OLED monitors even the modern panels?

Getting burn in as early as 4 months will piss me off so much lol

>dlsschizo
>nicojeet
>brand won thank you brand shill
what a shit fucking thread and a shit fucking dead hobby. cant wait until they stop selling pc parts to consumers altogether so you retards can get the fuck off my board

>>108116062
>>brand won thank you brand shill
That guy is particularly mental. I decided to see how far back it goes in the archive once and he's been doing that shit consistently every thread since like 2015

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hey /pcbg/ i know u fags is more capable of troubleshooting than the rest here
my pc freezes during gaming, and after reviewing the event log, found that the nvidia stuff started acting up. Then, after switched to the backup gpu (using lower power), no error log since. The question is, is my gpu or power supply about to fail?

>>108116067
>he's been doing that shit consistently every thread since like 2015
i wanna be just like him fr.

it's interesting how few people it takes to make a general worthless and how pervasive the problem is across the entire website. There's literally always at least one super dedicated autist squatting in any given general that everyone agrees would be better off dead.

>>108116119
are you talking about me? everyone else is the problem here.

>>108116119
>it's interesting how few people it takes to make a general worthless and how pervasive the problem is across the entire website.
So damn fucking true, most of the /vg/ threads I used to visit are so shit now because of the OP trying to ragebait, sometimes succeeding, sometimes failing and proceeding to have a melty and ruin the thread even more

>ASUS straight-up selling RX 9070 XTs for $700
We live in hell.

>>108116232
get the xfx swift. it's cheaper and has a better cooler but it is also bigger my nigger.

>>108116232
That's not a bad deal. Pretty sure it's the OC one.

>>108116239
>tfw got the xfx mercury for $650
Life is good.

>>108116259
xfx gpus in general seem to have a lot of mass compared to their prices. even the cheap swift has a good 10% more weight compared to others.

>>108116269
I read it was kind of a big guy, but it'll be fine. It looks like a solid card all around.

>>108116232
Still a way better deal than 5070 ti that is nearly a thousand before tax

>>108116239
>>108116259
I'm actually eyeing the RX 9060 XT. $399 for a 16GB model.

>>108116291
this is what i got from https://youtu.be/4bvT5XvG65Y. while weight is not everything when everything is rather same with three fans and a cheap backplate the heatsink is what you are paying for.

1153g Asrock Steel Legend
1470g Asrock Taichi
1100g Asus Prime
1448g Asus TUF Gaming
1261g Gigabyte Gaming
1551g Gigabyte Elite
1172g Powercolor Hellhound
1545g Powercolor Red Devil
1207g Sapphire Pulse
????? Sapphire Pure
1585g Sapphire Nitro
1350g XFX Swift
1545g XFX Quicksilver
1705g XFX Mercury

>amd now has a promotion that gives you crimson desert with selected products
>bought the 9800x3d mincrocenter bundle deal last month
Do I still qualify or do I just get to pound sand?

>>108116368
>closing in on 4lbs
Man what a fat ass. I hope this one comes with one of those support stands.

>>108116382
technically the nitro is like 1800g or smth but 300g of that is from the double backplate so i don't count it.

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>>108116382
>>108116389
xfx is like really cheap in germany. makes everything obsolete really. you even get dual bios on the swift their cheapest card. their best card is like 28€ to 50€ more than their cheapest.

I genuinely don't like the idea of paying so much money for PC parts. It makes me physically uncomfortable.

>>108116437
buy a 5700xt. get a 5700x. build a steam machine.

Darkmont-only chip when?!

>>108116389
>>108116408
Either way, it was $650. Only $50 above the MSRP and it's an OC edition which normally were so not bad on that at all.

>>108116325
Not a bad card either.

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Found out about this case today, Thermaltake View 309 Air

And for a moment, I thought it was just the thing I was looking for
200mm fans in the front, 3x 120mm on the bottom, 2x 120mm on the rear

But it's limited to 160mm air cooler height... :(

made my program 2x faster in 5 hours rather than buying 2000 equipment to do the same (;

why are intel benchmarks so fucked

they overheat to shit and drain your electricity and most of the time its just the same performance as AMD not even better

i used to never look at AMD and now i'm at the point when i just dont care about intel anymore

>>108116493
intel has had their fx moment. it can only go up from here.

I got the 9800x3d combo from Microcenter last month(came with the ASUS B650e-e and 32gb Crucial 6000mhz). NewEgg has a 9850x3d combo with just the cpu and some other RAM brand I've never heard the name of but it's 32gb and 64000mhz. I haven't opened any of them yet as I don't have everything, but thinking of just selling the 9800x3d for a small lose and getting the 9850x3d instead. Might sell the Crucial RAM too or just hold onto it just in case.
Thoughts?

>>108116520
all this effort just to get the basically same cpu.

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>he hates prebuilts
>buy a prebuilt power supply

>>108116525
Well I was also interested in the RAM.

>>108116537
they prob have the same chips.

What's the skinny on mini-LED monitors?

>>108116537
It's the same cpu, and it's the same ram.

>>108116484
Perfect for the dh15s

>>108116493
Their engineers made raptorlake to have max gaming performance at all costs hence the 6ghz clocks on what is effectively a 7nm class node
They just didn't expect amd's zen4 x3d would be that good

Something about my build is busted, and I don't think I'm wrong but I want a sanity check:
>Z590i Asus board
>11900k
>2 nvme drives
The first one should use the 4 lanes from the CPU, and the second one (at PCIe 3) should use the 4 lanes from the chipset.
So why then is my GPU running at 8x instead of 16? There should still be 16 lanes to go around for the GPU right?

Talk me out of getting a x870 board to replace my b650e board.

>>108116652
The x16 slot on that board doesn't share lanes with anything else so check whether your GPU is missing a capacitor near its pcie connector or if it's fully seated into the slot

>>108116520
I'd do it
9800x3d gets the worst binned x3d silicon and the bad ones are really bad, I know that since I have one of the worst pulls out of the silicon lottery

>>108116664
It seems fully seated and seems intact, but what was weird was the hwinfo showing something like PCIe 5.0 8x @ PCIe 4.0 x8, so let me check bios and see if it's set on auto or something weird.

>>108116669
What makes you think the 9850x3d won't have the same issues?

I might just buy a 9850x3d just to get the free game...

>>108116710
fancy

>>108116736
Probably more of a waste of money.

do people unironically buy AMD GPUs now? Are you that desperate?

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Wait until he hears I bought both.

Does intel really pay for shills? idk, it's so weird. They're not real. I've never met an Intel shill in my life. Real life. Apple shills, yes.

>>108116836
>GPUs
ok, just saw it again.

it's just the paid shills of green

>>108116673
I don't have any other cards to test with at 16x, but even after a cmos clear in bios it says x8 for the slot, so seems like an unintended """feature""" for the board. Thankfully this is just for AI stuff so if the model takes a bit longer to load into memory I don't think I'm that worried.

I made a mistake

>>108116848
Good Lord I knew I was dumb but didn't know how dumb.
Apparently my card is actually only PCIe 5.0 x8, not 16.
So that answers that.

fine i'll get a 9070XT

but can someone tell me WHICH, there are literally dozens of versions of them

was looking at the XFX vendor

>>108116995
Kek, I wonder what card that could be.

Brand new 9850X3D for $360 or used 7800X3D for $250?
1440p, low-medium refresh rates.

AMDjeets lost

>>108117049
9800x3d for $285

>>108117049
9850x3d ez

>>108117052
>I got fucked by the red,green,blue brand, I'm superior.

>>108117026
Honestly doesn't matter too much, just get whoever is cheapest atm. They all have some small pros and cons, and you'll find everyone talk about getting coil whine. Though brands I see people mention the most are Asus, PowerColor, and Sapphire.
Actually, ASUS still has their white ssf OC 9070xt available and on sale for $700 when you make an account.

>>108117049
Unless you know the guy, never buy used on PC parts. So easily the 9850x3d.

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r8h8

>>108117064
Im white so thats correct

>>108117067
>9800x3d
>overpriced german twin towers
Just just just
Never Going To Make It™
That said at least the Flares are low profiles meant to work with such.

>>108117067
I think that case is kinda gay, but otherwise it's good.

>>108117067
Why SFX?

>>108117093
Missed that, changed that out with Lian Li Edge. Forgot to update.

>>108117026
Get the sapphire pulse

>>108116119
Yeah, still haven't visited the music production general for a year thanks to the autisttard derailing every thread. This is 4chan, so there's tons of autistic neets but to have derailing threads as their special interest in life is just fucking weird.

>>108116119
It took one dedicated sperg to forever suicide /osrg/ on /tg/.

>>108117067
I bought this for 1000$ less in september but with a 5070ti instead lel

Whether on PCPP or Buildcores, I will never again click on the "AMD" filter for GPUs. Occasionally I will still use an Intel Arc just to see how it fits.

>>108116814
No it's the local assburger resident hijacking the OP and first few posts for the sake of his holy crusade. Consensus here is you can buy AMD if you're desperate to trade $50-100 for more troubleshooting.

I haven't got a laptop in a long time and I'm wondering something before I buy one.
Do remote control app sucks like they did maybe around ten years ago, maybe more?
I have this rig that does everything I need but I'll be a lot on the road this year. I will often need to connect through coffee/bars wifi.
My work revolves around 3D modeling/coding.

Any laptop recommendation as well, around 1000-1500€

What's the point of the 9070 XT?
9070 non-XT is only about 10% slower, draws 30% less power, and is about 20% cheaper
if you need XT level perf you can flash the XT BIOS (software flash works now, no external programmer needed)

>>108117245
the 9070 XT costs more which is good because then you can give AMD more money (praise lisa su)

>>108117245
>What's the point of the x?
>y is only about 10% slower, draws 30% less power, and is about 20% cheaper
>Repeat this until you're considering buying a gtx 1050 ti

>>108115988
gut reaction from a 10second review - mid looks blurry. bottom looks best, top is not far behind bottom.
main point i looked at was the bricks on the right half.
I will note i noticed the camera was at different angles for each and not very scientific IMO

>>108116995
>>108117039
Lurker here and I have no clue which card it is.

>>108117258
Not really
You can't upgrade other cards with BIOS flash

>>108117124
I miss /dfg/ on /vg/

>>108117220
Are you talking about remote desktop solutions? I can't really speak too well for that as I've only used Microsoft's RDP, VNC, and a newer combination based off some Nvidia software called Sunshine/Moonlight. There's also a fork of Sunshine called Apollo. Supposedly the Sunshine(or Apollo)/Moonlight works pretty damn well even outside of local. Might look into those.

>>108117245
>what's the point of getting a v8 when you can get a v6 with a turbo?

Man having your keyboard or mouse break down makes you realize you have to have an extra lying around at all times.

>>108117331
I've got a few basic office keyboards and mice for said situations.

I have a 9070xt
I was trying cyberpunk on linux
With raytracing disabled I get around 130fps
I am not impressed

>>108117026
I have the Hellhound and it's solid

>>108117347
try enabling dlss

If any Aus fags need a 2tb nvme.

https://www.amazon.com.au/WD_Black-SN850X-Internal-Gaming-Heatsink/dp/B0B7CKZGN6

Last 1 in stock at an affordable price.

>>108117353
I tried FSR and it's less FPS
FSR2 is the least laggy but there's still lower performance even on balanced
Forced FSR4 is not great at all
Raytracing is unusable though without FSR
Not sure about XeSS

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AYYMDEADPOORFAGS, OUR RESPONSE?

>>108117391
obviously nvidia earned their position with doing all the right moves

amd meanwhile seems complacent and unable to innovate or have vision, their one lucky break is intel shitting the bed with their foundries and x86 license

>>108117245
XT still has more CUs. That being said yeah they fucked their market segmentation up by not having the non-XT differ in other ways that couldn't be overcome through firmware shenanigans. It's even worse when you consider that the "340W" vBIOS for binned high-end XTs was supposedly a panic move against the 5000 series reveal, the gap was planned to be even narrower.

>>108116371
I did the same thing and I think we're boned.

>>108116437
Same. The only nice thing is that building an entire computer is something I only do once every 10 years or so. Whenever I need to upgrade, I just get whatever's a cheaper and substantial upgrade.

>>108117318
Yeah. And what do you think of it ? Do you use it on random cafés and shit like that? I'm often outside and I'd like to know what I'm getting into. Cause if remote desktops oslutions are good enough, I'm willing to buy a less expensive laptop. If not, I'd need to have something with good specs to not be too limited.

>>108117465
but think of all the value memory makers shareholders gain from all this

Is a 4060 worth the cheaper price of a 5060? I'm considering an AMD 4060 build.

>>108117329
It's more like a V6 vs a V6 with an ebay turbo

>>108117541
No. 5060 is like 20% faster

>>108117568
You realize the 9070xt has more compute units too, right?

>>108117541
5060 has better perf with dlss 4.5 and better frame gen

>>108117474
Sorry, I somehow didn't add how I've only used all this locally, so I couldn't tell you personally. I'm assuming you don't have a laptop at all right now? If there's no way to test it yourself, you might get a better spec'd laptop. Unless you want to see what people say online about the setup first. It also might be more difficult. I've never bothered trying to set stuff that's access up outside local network myself.

I really am starting to think reddit is better than this shithole. Until I remember all the catty and passive aggressive response I see when I'm trying to look something up and it points to a fucking reddit thread. Then I remember that only the dead know peace from this evil.

>>108117621
Yeah none but I'm pretty sure I can get someone to lend me theirs so I can test it myself. Thanks for the help.

>>108117604
Yes, but a 9070 with XT bios performs within 1-2% of an XT, so the CU difference doesn't matter much when everything else is equal

>AMD is giving away Crimson Desert.
>Nvidia is giving away RE9
I swear AMD always gives away the lamer games. Last time I got free shit from them, I got Forspoken and the Saints Row reboot.

>>108117680
Yeah sorry I'm not trusting a fucking reddit post. You can do it if you want. Just like you can jack up your little shitbox Honda 4 banger and pretend it will be just as good as an LS3, but don't go around trying to convince others.

>>108117702
I got Far Cry 6 last time. It was all right, but I never beat it. Crimson Desert seems all right in this case. But I liked Dragon's Dogma, and care little for horror games.

>>108117709
Not sure what post you're talking about
9070 bios flash discussion is mostly on german overclocking forums and github

>>108117702
i got space marine 2

>>108117714
>german overclocking forums
This gets worse by the second. Just shut up already.

>>108117432
I might try to shoot an email over to Microcenter to see if they'll play ball with me, but I doubt it.

>>108117719
t. remorseful 9070 XT owner

>>108117604
CUs that server no purpose because of amd's lack of memory bandwidth

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What's the appeal of Miku?

>>108117858
ey its migu

>>108117858
americans and their supressed desire to fuck children

>>108117858
>33
>not a dad
>single
>don't even have the money to make a full miku pc
I lost...

https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-core-ultra-400-nova-lake-bllc-cpu-tile-reportedly-36-larger-than-standard-tile

INTEL WON 144MB CACHE

>>108117858
miku is the perfect avatar for our technological future

>>108117886
holy shit zen6 x3d will be affordable
thanks intel

>>108117026
see
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>>108117929
What did he mean by this?

>>108117967
>Radeon RX 9070 XT Roundup, 14 Cards Tested!

>>108117967
since americans dont understand metric, "g" is a unit of measure of how many cocks you need to suck to obtain said item

>>108117986
doesn't make sense since xfx cards rank the highest on the cock sucking meter but are the cheapest. nice try faggot.

>>108117986
Easy numbers for Americans. :^)

>>108117993
you read it right the first time. only the biggest cock slurpers can afford xfx cards

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what is your excuse anons? >>108117858

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>>108118004
just realized that i have an xfx 480 (reference), 5700xt (reference) and a 7800xt swift.

>>108116009

paint thindesk sff side white then lay computer at its side ne

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>>108118043
i posted the reddit version. i am sorry.

>>108118036
Heard you got purty mouf, frog boy.

>>108117858
who the FUCK looks inside his PC?

>>108116368

how does that play out if you are forced to mill strutless pci-plate and hot glue supports due missmatch

>>108118125
i'm doing that right now

>>108118187
you buy the gpu and put it inside your pc. if you want to do anything else look up the cooler design before buying. deshrouding is very popular with new gpus.

>>108118125
Read this as
>who the FUCK is inside his PC?
at first and was concerned.

>>108118125
It's not that unusual considering a grand majority of cases nowadays have glass sides to show everything off.

>>108118236
don't tell me you have your PC on a table dude, what is wrong with you

>>108117541
yes, the less you pay for a shit card the better.
you also get proper physix

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>>108118277
nta but
Pros: less dust, can decorate and admire gear
Cons: less desk space, noise

>>108118277
I don't, but a lot of people do and want to show their shit off, which is why companies will gladly sell overpriced branded parts to those people.

>>108118343
there are no pros

I just read the news about Canada. I swore it was Nico who decided to get revenge on people buying Nvidia GPUs and X3D CPUs xe couldn't afford.

>>108117541
not really, not only the 5060 is faster but you get a brand 3 new year warranty, which is definetly worth the difference unless the 4060 is extremely cheap

>>108118382
Less dust is a big pro for some.

>>108118409
what news?

>>108118484
They ran out of maple syrup, dude. It's a fucking crisis over there.

>>108116479
>Not a bad card either.
My biggest hang-up is that I don't feel the 9060 XT is $400 of value, and I don't feel the 9070 XT is $700 of value.
Also, I'm pretty sure deals boards are getting botted by resellers and the companies themselves to push the idea that these things are worth more than they are.

>>108118505
what? the diarrhoea from the shitting streets leaked into it and they had to throw it all out?

>>108118519
The maple trees started exploding. The entire syrup industry is gone.

>>108118595
Man the pictures are horrifying. I thought I've seen it all.

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>>108118594
fps 1500

>>108117719

only thing possibly germans supersample is optical media

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>>108116033
this is assuming your lcd last forever and won't break down because everything is built like shit, this also assumes if you buy some shit like miniled don't cause failure and make it unusable like dead backlights, even tho not catastrophic failure makes the screen unusuable, as rtings already proved oled is more reliable than miniled tvs

buying new more durable oleds with more layers how long will it last before burn in becomes noticable in day to day and annoying? nobody knows. or pixels die en masse, nobody knows

if you get 3-5 years of use out of any tech before if you use like a tv and the power supply dies you would consider yourself lucky

are you really gonna spend half a decade or a decade with an inferior tech just because of seething about burn in? up to you

do you also leave the rest of your life non raytraced?

only test is to buy it and try with your use case
nobody is forcing you to use oled for writing in a text document all day either
but if you only want and could have one display would you really?

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>>108115988
>install 5090 gaming trio
>see this
what do

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>>108116678
they're binned within 150mhz of each other so, not that much variance at all

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The enemy of Christ is defeated, but where the hell do I buy replacement standoffs like these and their spring screws? I've looked all over my local shops and nobody had them on hand.

I'm the guy who had the X870-P that refused to post yesterday
I plugged in the CPU and RAM to my friend's motherboard and it boots perfectly fine, something is just wrong with mine
The last thing I'll try is swapping our motherboards between cases to see if it's maybe a PSU issue, but it's a KW platinum one it should be fine

>>108118882
rip
time to buy a new gpu

>>108118882
https://www.raijintek.com/de/products_bycategory.php?CategoryID=1&SubCategoryID=22

Just bought a gigabyte oled for $500. I forgot about the whole burn in memes. Is this thing going to be all right if all I do 90% of the time is browse this hellhole?

>>108118931
i have a first gen qd-oled monitor that turned 3 years old last month
burn-in is only noticeable if i try looking for it with a full grey image

>>108118847
nta so tell me what this even means pretty please

>>108118931
you might want to keep current monitor and have taskbar and such up on the lcd one and the oled only showing black background unless you're using it for media

>>108118956
2 gook autists bought forty 9850x3ds to overclock
the best results for each column are highlighted

>>108118913
Most annoying part is always the VRM cooling, aftermarket ones won't always fit or stay on due to layout differences between brands.

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>>108118906
Replacing the standoff and screw should only be a 50 cent job, the biggest concern I have is the years-long bend on the PCB from heatsink and fan sag due to the lack of reinforcement. I wonder if this was the cause of white/black artifacting in desktop I RMA'd the card for early last year, for which MSI in Germany said "works on my machine" and I haven't seen them since.

>>108115988
If I want some extra vertical space should I buy:
16:10 monitor or a 9:21/9:16?

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>>108118983
i see i see
and the 9800x3d variance looks a lot worse than this apparently?

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>>108118913
>Moprheus for the 30 series is a thing
How did I not know about this sooner?

>>108119015
buy a 32" 4k monitor

>>108118953
Apparently this one is woled. I don't really know the difference between them.

>>108118957
I use a dual screen set up so I was just going to designate it as my second. But got an L shaped desk so the second monitor isn't much for primary viewing.

>>108119035
wait till you find out that you can mount cpu coolers on gpus.

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>>108115988
Please, I need help with case fans.
I'm planning to buy Arctic P14 PWM PST ARGB. I was checking my motherboard (B550 Phantom Gaming 4) if it's "compatible" but I'm not sure if I'm understanding correctly.
Help me understand, please. From vids I gather these fans have 2 connectors, one for power that goes into CHA_FAN (4 pins) and another for LED that goes into ADDR_LED (3 pins) not RGB_LED (4 pins). I will buy the pack that allows daisy chain connection so checking the motherboard guide, the ADDR_LED has a max 3A (5V) and the CHA_FAN says a max of 2A (24W).
According to the official site, these fans need 5V and 12V for power. While 5V for LED. So LED is fine but power is not? Is there any issue with daisy chain 3 fans into 1 connector?
Sorry if these questions are too stupid.

>all that stress for gay RGB fans
lol

Built my pc a few months ago, have had no real issues so far but twice now once a few weeks ago and just now when I first turn my pc on in the morning I'll see a little orange glowing light on my motherboard on the top right corner and it will take about 20 seconds longer for it to boot up. The light goes away but I'm worried it could be a sign of something going wrong.

>>108119038
>buy a 32" 4k monitor
And then I set a smaller than 200% HiDPI scale.
200% == 1080p space
150% == 1440p space
100% == 4k space
I honestly haven't thought of that, but I can also just buy a 1440p monitor.

So far I was thinking of buying:
1. 16:10 BenQ RD240Q | 2560 x 1600
2. 2x 16:9 monitor set vertically forming a 18:16 display.
3. 2x21:9 monitors set vertically forminng a 18:21 monitor.
4. Cheap old 4:3 monitor.
5. Above but also cheap 16:9 monitor.

I just have a 14" 16:10 thinkpad I use at 100% scale and I miss not having the same amount of vertical space on my big format monitor.

>>108117541
It's funny to me you got a bunch of yes/no reply but no one know what's the price difference here.

>>108116995
Oh I guess I could have said the card, apparently there are more of them than I thought but it's an Intel b60

>>108119111
check out which component the error led lights up for
eg dram, cpu

>>108119059
With what kind of afapter.

>>108119111
pcb abt to fail. good luck.

>>108119135
the one you make yourself :^)

>>108119128
Google says it's RAM, it mentions it is supposed to light up when training but I thought that was just a one time thing. Does it need to train periodically? I can't fucking afford to replace ram of all things right now fuck.

>>108119092
The fan will have 2 connectors, one for the power the other for the LGBT.
Fan will connect to the 12V fan connector, LGBT will connect to the 5V LGBT connector.

>>108118808
https://streamable.com/92jfqc

>>108119151
Yes it happens on cold boot after periods of non use
If anything you should update to the latest BIOS soon because there's been significant improvements in RAM training/management with AMD AGESA
Just Google the AGESA changes and you'll see

>>108119180
Ok, when I built it I was told never to update my BIOS unless there was a problem because it could cause more problems. But you think it's worth upgrading now to potentially make my ram run better? I never tweaked it just turned on XMP and that was it. Not even running PBO after that last scare saying that 9800x3d's are burning up again.

>>108119038
I actually think I could use a 32" 4k monitor at 100% scale, it's just a 16" 1080p monitor.
Maybe 125% scale.

>9070 XT can't reach 60FPS on Oblivion Remastered on Ultra
What the hell are developers even doing?

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those are all different versions of the swift btw.

>>108118996
how the fuck does that thing still work
AND WHY THE FUCK ARE METAL BACKPLATES AND MORE IMPORTANTLY FRONT PLATES OR WHATEVER THE FUCK NOT STANDARD REEEEEEEEEEEEEE
a backplate is fucking pointless if the sag is pulling DOWN, if you hold it down with screws it'll mean fuck all if you have a backplate
you need stiffening on both sides

>>108119148
Do you have a license for a CnC machine?

>>108119276
shush
>>108119290
there are companies that would do it for you. you can also just cut and file metal yourself.

>>108119227
Disable all the advanced lighting, rendering, shadows and antialias.
They make all these powerful software features available to you and you get mad that your hardware can't keep up?

Out of curiosity, what OS are you people running on your current build? What OS will you be running on your next build?

>>108119321
Win 10, Win 10 hopefully

>>108119321
since you can't turn off nvme ssds from the bios i am running two sata ssds for an dual boot of windows 11 and fedora linux
there will be no next build.

So apparently OLED sucks for a jack of all trades monitor. Such is things in life. So I want the best jack of all trades monitor. Is it still IPS? How is mini LED like?

>>108119318
>they make all these powerful software features available to you
>untuned, default shit available in Unreal Engine

>>108119216
I did but I went to November. I'm keeping an eye on the new BIOS that's supposed to drop soon and wait a few weeks to make sure nothing happens.
At least update to a BIOS where it's 1.2.0.7+ AGESA which I did, 9800X3D+64gigs is my set-up as well
If anything newer BIOS should hopefully help against the supposed fearmongering of the 9800 issues -- I have MSI. also, I have PBO disabled but going to experiment this weekend on negative CO PBO after watching a few videos

>>108119339
This is why I ignored people laughing at me splurging on a slightly used MLC SSD 2 months ago, for this exact reason.

Checked the catalog and didn't see any conclusive answers: between my 5600X and my 10GB RTX 3080, what makes more sense to upgrade? Trying to decide between a 9800X3D + motherboard + DDR5 RAM or a 5070 Ti + going from a 165hz 1440p monitor to a 160hz 4K monitor

>>108119362
OK I have almost the same setup, MSI B850 Tomahawk, 9800x3d, 64gb cl30 ram. Got the ram a week before the apocalypse for 200 dollars lol. Checked recently and it was going for 900. The world has gone mad.
I forgot how to check which version of my bios I have though, do I just have to open it on boot and it will show it there somewhere or can I check outside of the bios?

>>108118953
I remember a reddit schizo replacing the early 34" ultrawide qdoleds on repeat after 8-9 months to a year due to burn in, not sure if his pixel refresh ever triggered or ran at all, he ran through like 3+ of them or some shit on repeat
interesting

>>108118931
>Is this thing going to be all right
things will decay over time eventually leading to it being so burnt in, pixels committing mass suicide (or if that was a lg tv problem) or monitor dying before then
time will tell

>>108119343
the only negatives are non traditional pixel matrix, possible eye strain (can happen with any other tech too), if manufacturer implements dog shit firmware that interrupts your work flow for no apparent reasons or pixel refreshes in your clutch pvp game

>>108119386
buying a 13900k or 14900k saves you paying ddr5 costs and just transplanting ram if you have 32gb ddr4 already lol

>>108119318
they just set a checkbox to "on" and that is it. they then develop the whole game with them on and let you turn them off and make the game look like ass because every effect relies on denoising and taa. great success. lazy niggers. why make games at this point. just make a movie or smth.
>>108119385
nvme is the spawn of satan himself. jeffrey epstein invented this subpar standard and told motherboard manufacturers that the ability to disable the nvme slot from within the bios would result in their companies failing.

>>108119386
Most games are more worried about the GPU than CPU, so I'd try to go for the 5070ti if you can find a good price. It'd also be easier to switch out, but that depends on your PSU as well.
Unless you just happen to be playing some of the few games that are more CPU intensive, then you might go for the 9800x3d.

>>108117640
What are you on about? Anons that bought a 5070 Ti 16Gb a month ago or more are enjoying a GPU that keeps gaining value. They can sell it right now and make a profit. Said profit is only going to get bigger this year and maybe the next. You and I buy any other GPU and it instantly lose 25% in value. They are gaming for free.

>>108119401
>buying a 13900k or 14900k saves you paying ddr5 costs and just transplanting ram if you have 32gb ddr4 already lol
Oh damn, I hadn't considered that. I do already have 32GB of decent DDR4
>>108119435
850w power supply good enough? I heard the 5070 Ti is less of a power hog than the 3080 but I don't know if that's true.

>>108119401
>the only negatives are non traditional pixel matrix, possible eye strain (can happen with any other tech too), if manufacturer implements dog shit firmware that interrupts your work flow for no apparent reasons or pixel refreshes in your clutch pvp game
Is this in regards to OLED or mini LED?

>>108119386
You might have a bit of trouble with the 5600x depending on what kind of games you want to play. Otherwise it's not a bad idea really.

>>108119495
>850w power supply good enough?
Yeah you'll be fine. That's usually the upper limit for overkill without wasting too much money on.

>>108119355
And yet your GPU can't handle it.
They could just remove the features and say it's ultra and you'd get 120fps and never know the difference. But they give you the option and say that the absolute best graphics require more hardware than you currently have.

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new name for the arson connector just dropped.
https://youtu.be/cy4g0Rl_15s?t=97

>>108119125
I checked and looks like RTX 4060 and RTX 5060 are x8 limited too.

>>108119504
The only CPU bound games I regularly play right now are Civ 6 and EVE Online, the other newer ones all tend to be GPU heavy (e.g. Oblivion Remastered was kicking my system's ass). Sounds like the 5070 Ti makes more sense.

>>108116119
Shouldn't have "joked" about everyone on 4chan being autistic and retarded for over a decade then. All it did was invite actual autists and retards in who thought they were in good company.

>>108119622
Autism is a sign of fungal infection in the nervous system or heavy metal poisoning and makes you gross all around. It's one of the worst debuff you can have as a person

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>>108119400
Check within bios for most accuracy, sometimes windows can get it wrong
Best to just go to the UEFI bios and see on the top right settings
Consult your manual
If your bios is older than the November release update it at least to November if you're scared
Reminder it may reset settings so save a Settings profile to USB or onboard memory before you flash new BIOS otherwise you'll have to redo the EXPO/XMP and fan curves and boot order etc

Since your mobo doesn't have a November update it's either September or January (1.2.03g or 1.3.0 pre)
I'd suggest going to the early January 2026 bios or if you want to play safe, stick to September and watch for the new BIOS to drop in the next month

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/MAG-B850-TOMAHAWK-MAX-WIFI/support

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>>108119691
Appreciate the info bro.

>>108119227
Oblivion remastered is a fucking joke of a game.

>walks down hill
>fps drops along with elevation

>>108119731
just like in real life.

>>108119743
Tru, my faps per second rises with elevation

>>108119754
i am just fat.

>>108119502
oled until this year when rgb stripe pixel matrix comin out

I had a dream where the cause for dying 9800x3ds was discovered to be related to RGB and USB overcurrent killing the cpu

>>108115988
should i import from china ?
i need 32gb ddr5 ram

>>108118847
Is there similar image for 9800X3D/9950X3D?

My MSI MPG A1000G, 1000W, Full-Modular, 80 Plus
Gold PSU just died on me out of nowhere.
Hello?
It's not turning on, not even with a paperclip.
You told me this PSU was top tier, it died in 16 months. HELLO?
I'm buying a Lian Li Edge Gold 1200W right now. Please tell me I made a good choice.
t. 5800X3D + 7900XTX

>>108119892
You either have dirty power or got a bad unit

Shit happens fag

Also unrelated but does anyone else despise the “pick the image that has 2 stars with x# of spikes” captcha???

>>108119934
>Also unrelated but does anyone else despise the “pick the image that has 2 stars with x# of spikes” captcha???
why haven't you boughted a 4chan pass

>>108118957
Do you really need to baby the monitor that much? Shit. I was thinking of getting an OLED but not at this point. It sounds like dealing with a liquid cooler.

>>108119943
I won’t be supporting this site financially especially after news that came out last week

>>108119892
We told you to buy Seasonic or Corsair.

Also, dirty power --- buy a sinewave UPS -- I have a PSU lasting me 12+ years now (Seasonic) with it being on 24/7 at low idle

Sorry bro

>all the overpriced video cards keep selling out
Prices are never, ever going down again.

>>108120072
When leftists keep giving away free money on a local level (COVID, corruption in state medical and other grifts i.e. California and Minnesota and NY) along with fake funny money IPOS (i.e. over speculation on bullshit stocks) combined with national security scares (thanks China + fed) === too much money floating around to fuck around the little people


Get into ETFs, stocks and 401K and HSAs while you're young NOW
let that money sit and compound forever
save 20%+ of your paycheck on those things as much as you can, them by middle age you can start spending money on overpriced shit like this

>>108117245
>what's the point of getting X if Y is cheaper and shitter?
>>108119227
>weak gpu can't handle a new game
what a revelation

>>108118715
I have TN panel that's just as good as it was 6 years ago. I don't want ewaste

>>108120162
you could probably develop a stick game and make it mine bitcoin on the gpu and make it run at 22fps on a 5090 and a retard like you would come along and say that a weak gpu can't handle a "new" game. fucking subhuman.

>>108120162
>New game
>look inside
>20 year old game ported to a dogshit engine

>>108120072
>overpriced
if they were overpriced they would not sell so apparently they are priced correctly (I would buy a MSPR 5090 but more than that is kinda gay)
>overpriced
money isn't real
>overpriced
mental fabrication that exists in your current predicament

if were a multimillionaire you would buy yachts like a pack of gum

>>108120179
oled is the only upgrade to tn
>I don't want ewaste
everything is ewaste on a long enough timeline + you gonna be stuck on 1080p only

>>108120184
>>108120202
Your card is objectively underpowered to run the game at those settings. Lower the settings, use the FSR crutch. Do basic shit pc gaming has had since its fucking inception instead of shitting your diapers and blaming the game for not catering to your underpowered system. It's not the 7th console gen anymore. You aren't getting 8 years of everything but Crysis and ARMA being made for low end 8 year old systems and maxing out every game in that timespan with a budget card.

It wasn't Doom's fault a shitty 286 had to downgrade the game to low detail mode to run decently. It's not O:R's fault your toaster can't max it out.

Lol you guys on the 5600 are worried, there are people still on a 3600 or 3700X.

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>>108120232
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>>108120232
Lotta words for some lousy bait.

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>>108120236
It could be a problem if you're still on faildozer.

>>108119031
Nta
Most all i9 K models have about ~300-400mhz of variance between bad and good bins
Having it differ by like 150-200mhz is pretty good, it means that amd is actually putting in the work to bin their CPUs unlike intel

I'm a cross country truck driver for a living. I want a gaming PC but don't have the room, power budget in my sleeper cab, or room for a giant desktop. Even an mATX build would be a stretch. Is it possible to build a relatively power efficient mITX build for 1440p gaming or would I be better off just buying a full gaming desktop replacement level laptop and keep it perma-docked?

>>108120265
>>108120280
https://deltiasgaming.com/best-settings-for-rx-9070-xt-in-oblivion-remastered/
Get spoonfed. Here's some random website suggesting settings for your card. Follow it.

>>108120265
I'm going to be autistic and point out there isn't a foot in that boot.

>>108120499
i just like the boots and how they look. would get some of those for >>108120401 to lick.

>>108118931
If you're running a sane SDR brightness on desktop (i.e., not trying to compensate for stage lighting), you don't have to worry

>>108120604
sane sdr is 100% brightness, that's just 250-300 nits
sRGBcucks 120nits be gone

100%BRIGHTNESS+ALLPROTECT FEATURES OFF DO NOT COMRPOMISE

>>108120604
You mean no HDR? Which doesn't matter to me as I've never tried. I've already canceled the order regardless. It seemed like I'd have to baby the monitor and I just don't feel like doing that. I'll just wait until I can get more space, a new desk, and I can use it sparingly. By then I'm sure the tech will improve more too.

>>108116493
Intel's upcoming desktop products will have a lot more cache, but intel(kek) then, no reason to look at their CPUs for gaming unless you can get one cheap and plan to use or reuse DDR4. DDR4 compatibility is the one saving grace right now

real question here pcbros, I have a nas and ofc I bought 4 CMR 8TB disks for it, but I want to replace the old 2 and 3 TB disks I have on my pc for bigger ones, should I get CMR NAS-rated disks? they are very fucking loud and I use windows so they are always active (I know in linux you have to wake up the drive yourself)
and what size should I get? honestly feels weird to get smth like a 16TB drive for a computer because it's too big, what should I aim for the max size?

>>108120636
You don't run HDR on desktop; HDR is only for games and video when they have it

>>108120671
Oh. I guess that makes sense. I remember trying it with my current monitor, but my current one just has the barely required amount to count as HDR and I didn't care for it.

>>108120658
Personally I would say keep the bulk storage on the NAS and go SSD only on the local machine
Sadly there is the reality of current SSD prices
Hard to really recommend a size since I don't know your storage requirements, but larger drivers will be more bang for buck

>>108120722
should I go for with SMR drives, assuming the make less noise than CMR drives? the 2 and 3 tb drives I have here are both SMR and lasting like 14 years and 11 years respectively, still working

>>108120752
I don't think SMR is inherently quieter

>>108120658
If you plan to keep your PC on 24/7, maybe. Otherwise if you want extra space and still don't want to spend the money on current flash storage then you could still look into WD Black HDDs. They're "gamer" rated and should be CMR too. It's been a while since I used one but they're 7200rpm so they'll probably be a bit noisy. I would just use it to keep non-essential stuff, maybe like video game recordings or smaller games, while keeping the rest on the flash storage.

>>108120781
oh no, I don't like performance drives, it's just for storing useless stuff and also for all downloads, I like to throw all downloads I make on the drives so instead of them wearing my nvme ssd pc drive they wear the drives instead, sounds petty but over many years it makes a huge difference

>>108120781
>>108120831
If you don't like 7200 drives what do you use for drives like you said that's both reliable but also good to reduce wear on your SSD?
Can you give some examples?
NAS type drives are 5400rpm??
Not that anon(s)

I've bought the 9950X3D, thanks for the help some anons in previous threads provided me. The final build was:
>9950X3D
>Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE
>2x32GB 5600 MT/s CL36 Hynix A (will try my hands at putting this to 6000 MT/s)
>MSI B850 Tomahawk Max
>Cougar Polar X2 1050W (ATX 3.1 ver, Cybernetics Platinum)
The whole build started when I saw the memory sticks at what I assumed was wrong priced at 250 USD each (direct conversion from the currency of my country). It's not a GREAT price historically but given current developments, it's better than the current norm.
I'm keeping my SSDs, case (bought a Lian Li 217 last year) and the 6800 XT for the time being. Main use cases are hobby programming, virtualization, web infrastructure stuff, casual gaming. Hopefully this build will last me 9 years just like my current Ryzen 1700 did.

>>108120856
most drives are 5400rpm including nas drives, they are very noisy because they have many plates

>>108120860
I always shill for air coolers but for a 16 core cpu I think you should swap to a 360 or 420 aio cooler if you use it for production a lot

>>108120879
I'll just disable PBO and maybe undervolt a bit.

>>108120872
Any "reliable" suggestions? I still have an old habit of buying WD black drives but due to the cascading effects these hard drives are also being jacked up in price but I also was lucky that they have all last 5+ years like they should
But I have 3 drives ready to hit 5 years and am ready to consolidate into one drive + get a mirror (for a docking external) but I don't want a HDD that's going to fail in one year like Seagate
What other WD or Toshiba (I heard they're reliable) models are good 5400/cheaper just for large media storage?

>>108120896
I always only bought seagate and toshiba drives, they've never failed me, the 2 SMR drives I have 10+ years old and seagates, but others have difference experiences, the general rule is to buy CMR drives because they last longer and I wouldn't buy 7200rpm because hdds should only be used for storage and I like to minimize noise

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OCCT detected a bunch of RAM errors, which is probably the source of random programs crashing on Windows. Is there anything I can do to resolve these errors besides buying a new RAM kit?

>>108120933
disable xmp and run them at jedec specs

>>108120932
I guess I should Google AI but what is CMR/SMR?

>>108120937
Where can I find the jedec specs? I'm pretty clueless on RAM settings besides enabling XMP.

This is my RAM kit:

>VENGEANCE® RGB PRO 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4 DRAM 3600MHz C18 Memory Kit
https://www.corsair.com/ca/en/p/memory/cmw32gx4m2d3600c18/vengeancea-rgb-pro-32gb-2-x-16gb-ddr4-dram-3600mhz-c18-memory-kit-a-black-cmw32gx4m2d3600c18

>>108120953
you should learn yeah, but you learn which drive is which by looking at their pdf spec sheets
>>108120961
simply disable xmp and it'll run in jedec specs

>>108120961
JEDEC spec = just boot without XMP and re-run the memory tests.

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>monsgeek fun60 he pro on aliexpress - 24.6€
>wooting 60he v2 - 246€
any pro gaymers in the chat who wanna defend this
also you can once again buy cheap x3d cpus on aliexpress with the sales atleast eu cucks

>>108120879
I think he'll be fine, worse case he disables PBO. I had my 9950X3D under an NH-D15S with a P14+p12 on it, it didn't really go above 92c

>>108120889
first thing you should do, update the BIOS to latest and set the curve optimizer to -20, you'll drop temps and increase performance. Aside from that make sure to set the VSOC voltage manually to 1.1v to 1.2v at most, that should give you a good bit of headroom.

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My GTX 680 has been giving me texture errors, polygon explosions and other shenanigans (like RGB pixel batches on the screen) for a month. I've been thinking about replacing it with a used 1660 super, but I'm worried about motherboard compatibility since it's well over a decade old as well (Asus p8 p67 pro rev 3.1). Is the PCIe slot gonna cause me any problems?

>>108121007
wanna try posting that again without a thumbnail?

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>>108120967
>>108120976
I disabled XMP and re-ran OCCT but I'm still getting errors.

>>108121022
then ur RAM is fucked, pull one of the sticks out and run the test, if that one passes place it back and take the other stick out and test again. One thing you can try is to get an eraser and gently clean the gold connectors on each ram stick to see if its just bad contact.

>>108120953
It's the type of plates HDDs use. tl;dr is that CMR are usually better quality drives, and SMR is cheaper quality.

>>108121018
the thumbnail was just to illustrate the point and draw attention, you should already know about it, it wasnt the point
it's a cheapo gaymen he effect keyboard

>>108121022
can you return it? are they new? it's defective, you could make try to re-seat them at most

>>108121008
>first thing you should do, update the BIOS to latest and set the curve optimizer to -20, you'll drop temps and increase performance. Aside from that make sure to set the VSOC voltage manually to 1.1v to 1.2v at most, that should give you a good bit of headroom.
Thanks for the tips, anon!

>>108121015
all PCIE is backward compatible, you can plug a Gen5 GPU into a Gen1 board no problem. The thing you need to watch out for is if you buy a New GPU and it only has PCIE 4x or 8X combined with the lack of Resize-bar support on older motherboards leads to really bad performance.

>>108119038
https://www.morele.net/monitor-aoc-u27b3af-13247153/
Settled for this:
sRGB: 129% | adobeRGB: 95.5%
4k 60hz 27" IPS
699zł/165 euro/196 dollar

I think this should do for coding + shader/graphic work.
The monthly payment on it doable and I might be able to pay off the loan in full after I pay off the overdraft first.

>>108121048
How can I look that up?

>>108121100
your motherboard is likely pci gen 3, it'll be fine with whatever gpu you get

>>108121096
32" is just 2x more expensive.
NGL the biggest benefit of a 32" is that I could run 100% scaling, but I'm not sure if it justifies a pricetag of +100% or more if it would be something with over 100% sRGB(or above), near 90-95% adobeRGB

>>108121100
whatever GPU ur gonna buy, look up in the techpowerup GPU database. the only ones that you need to avoid are the intels as those run like total shit without resize bar and your platform doesnt support it. a 3060 or something would work fine.

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>open air frame itx
>gpu twice as long as motherboard
Would it look futuristic

>>108120856
Technically NAS rated drives do have good durability as they're meant for systems running 24/7, but if you don't plan to run your system 24/7 then I wouldn't spend the money on them. WD Blacks are 7200 rpms because that means the content will load faster and that's what gamers want.
If you want a cheaper storage drive for more non essential stuff, look into drives like WD Blue. For the record the other companies like Seagate have comparable drives for the same market. I've just always used WD so I don't recall the branding names for the others. I think Barracuda is Seagate's WD Black.

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>tfw you discover your GPU has a BIOS switch after 13 years
man

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>>108121106
>pci gen 3
Gen 2, actually
Unless that's not what this means?

>>108121166
You're still fine, not like a 1660 super is super powerful to use all that bandwidth in the first place.

>>108121166
it's still fine, it means less bandwidth but most of the time low end cards don't use all the bandwidth anyway, if you're worried about it try to buy an x16 card as it has more lanes uses more bandwidth

>>108121166
>>108121182
yeah true, I think a 1660 and a 3060 are both 16X though so that'll be perfect and you can find those used for very cheap these days so w/e.

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wow

>>108121160
I deeply dislike those because they change the device ID forcing your driver to duplicate itself on the system resulting in twice the install size.

What thermal pads should I use on GPUs with GDDR5 and GDDR6? Something tells me paying 25 dollars for 12cm of K5 or -8 or whatever the fuck is not worth it if I just need to put it on some old GPUs and forget about it.

>>108121148
>sneezes towards pc
>shorts everything

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>intel i9 14900k
>z790 asus tomahawk
>samsung 990 pro 4
>be quiet 360mm aio cooler
>asus 5080 tuf 16 gigs of vram
>be quiet 1300 watt power supply
>corsair cl30 6000 mhz 64 gigs of ram

Better than you.

>>108121148
>geforce gtx super
wtf
1660 super from evga? with that kind of cooling?

>>108121225
I think it's disgusting not to always buy the best thermal pads and thermal paste (ptm 7950), hardware should always be treated well, all hardware matters

>>108121250
Check filename.

>>108121243
idle power status?

>>108121182
>>108121183
>>108121209
Okay, thanks for the info. A used GTX 1660 it is, then. My power supply is ancient and not modular, so it's gotta be that.

>>108121265
It peaks at like 450-550 watts during gaming if I remember correctly. So probably idles around 200-250.

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>>108115988
Rate my bargain buy.

>>108121331
not420/10

>>108121331
I am happy with the performance of my LF III Pro 360, except that the AMD mounting is a bit fiddly to install.

>>108121148
looks like the pc has boner

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Quality non-biased early bake for anons

>>108121297
>>108121297
>>108121297

Only (you) can make a quality thread out of it.

>>108121160
just mod your gpu. don't need some shitty dual bios for that. would be cool if they gave you the option to create a custom bios with all your settings so that your gpu would agnostic to your os but no you can deside between +50mhz and 50rpm+. dogshit.

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>>108121364
What an interesting thing to say.

>>108121321
So a quick life lesson from 4chan, if you don't know something it's better to not guess randomly than reveal your ignorance, because ignorance is easily conflated with stupidity.

>>108121381
i also have boner right now. is that also interesting for you?

>>108120658
> feels weird to get smth like a 16TB drive for a computer because it's too big
I got 20TB and wish that I had gotten 24+TB. It's filling up quickly with torrents. Will need another one soon. Smaller capacity HDD like 8TB are not helium filled, louder (!) and slower.

>>108121385
Here's a quick lesson from 4chan, you're a gay nigger.

>>108121345
It's for a secondary PC with a 5800X3D.
For my 9950X3D I already use an ALF3 420. Of course!

>>108121498
an air cooler is suficient for the 5800x3d, cmon

>>108121160
...So that's what this switch is for

what does /pcbg/ think of thermal grizzly products

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>>108121628
Kryosheet FTW, works well, comes with kapton tape and silicon oil for install. Highly recommend.

All these Newegg bundles really makes me wonder what's going on with ram.(No it doesn't.) You get tons of them where the price of ram is lowered to $150 on average for 32gb of DDR5. Maybe everyone is right. Even if the current business needs for datacenters is real, it still was an excuse to inflate ram prices and then try to dump stock in the disguise of discounts to produce better sales records.

>>108121513
I had an air cooler and it was indeed "enough" but I don't like it's fans spinning up on every spike in CPU temp and this happens all the time because with the 5800X3D the VCache is on top of the CCD. This makes me nervous. The large heat buffer of the radiator evens this out. The fan curve is adjusted to the temperature measured inside the radiator fins with two flat sensors near the in/out tubes.

>>108121628
there were daily pasta shit posts about how it ate into metals of tower coolers and people don't like dercucker because he got cucked
not sure about if the paste claim holds true to to this date