> The use of the 20-kilowatt LOCUST direct-energy weapon, which has not previously been reported, is a rare known example of the U.S. deploying cutting-edge counter-drone technology capable of defeating flying objects at a fraction of the cost of traditional interceptor missiles.i cannot believe the stupidity of officials who bought into this fake israeli laser. it is either money laundering or stupidity.please, Pentagon retards, take canculator and canculate how much energy there is a single bullet's poweder charge, then compare it with this retarded device. do like germans. a gun with compukter to trace those radio emitters.why dont isreaelis ban that laser toy? are they selling it to retards? play fair. this is pure physics
Are you retarded or something?You can relatively safely use a laser almost anywhere in the world, firing anti-air guns is something that needs clear fields of fire.
>>108146346ye, aaa-absolutely, almost anywhere in the world except the battlefield to do the real job of downing the dronesif youre retarded, resort to AI, but not that AI that consults Pentagon, because it might be even more retarded
>>108146397You do know the US has demonstrated successful lasers taking down drones on like a dozen different occasions over the last half decade?Sure, 20kW is low, but it's likely primarily meant to take down consumer grade drones, not military drones.IE, DJI mavics or similar.
>>108146397in place of Netanyahu, i would send those retards who "invented" this money laundering device straight to the ukranian frontlines, with their magic laser. would be such a great presentation.
>>108146411how many tonns this refrigirator weights? how much millions? why its never shown the full size, only the "head"?what successful operations you refer to?
>>108146488Who cares?
>>108146325did they design the thing after johnny 5?
>>108146488Is is a ground-based system, who cares?30kW generators can be pulled by a regular truck
>>108146411"Consumer grade" vs "Military grade" is irrelevant. What matters is the polymer of the drone frame. Or potentially a coating on the polymer. It all depends on the degree of reflection of the material against the wavelength of the laser (which is usuallt IR)
>>108146597Wow, it's almost like military drone manufacturers are aware of that and specifically construct their drones in a way that allows them to take more laser damage than a consumer drone. Consumer drones aren't designed specifically to counteract the threat of a high-energy laser.Do you think before you post or is it just a stream of consciousness directly into the 4chan post box? Even if they're made from identical materials, being built with the knowledge you might face a high-energy laser is going to change your design compared to a consumer drone that simply doesn't take that into consideration. Instead, it focuses purely on battery life and other performance factors for its size/weight.
>>108146568to protect those 300 meters, i hope, you, yes you, will carry that refrigirator with the truck, because youre complete retard.>>108146597how long does it take to bend that flying plastic and re-charge? i bet it wont stop 3-5 cheap drones directed on it. imagine the fireworks, hehehethen they will calculate 5 x $500 VS $2,000,000. because they only calculate $500 to $1.
>>108146488You are the gayest retard on the internet.
>>108146720We already have anti-swarm tools.Also ground based high powered microwave systems are great at taking down drones swarms non-kinetically.https://www.axios.com/2026/02/11/rtx-coyote-army-drone-swarms
>>108146625nobody cares about lasers in military. only retards like you who watch youtube presentations and know 0 physics.
why is /k/ope spilling over to /g/?
>>108146735Yeah that's why the US keeps dumping money into them and is making sure XA102/XA103 can produce ~500MW+ each.Airborne lasers for missile defense totally isn't happening in the next decade though trust me :^).
>>108146754dont cover your stupid laser ass with USA, there is a certain retard who got either brainfucked or participate in this money laundering.
>>108146782Yeah it's not like the US has been working on military lasers for 40+ years or anything, it's just one of (((them))) that's tricking the US into investing into it.
>>108146325You make it sound like the job of the US government isn't to give as much money to Israel as possibleEverything is working as intended
>>108146790> The three-star general spoke at the Space and Missile Defense symposium on 10 August about a host of programmes under his purview including directed energy initiatives. At the event, he announced that senior service leaders recently approved the development of an Army Multi-Purpose High Energy Laser (AMP-HEL) prototype that they want completed by the end of September 2023.do you know how many kW in a single m4 round? like in 5.56 cartridge? ask AI retard, then tell how many years will be needed to produce similar laser output.laser experiments were already made by soviets, they did the most powerful laser that was intended to consume a nuke explosion
>>108146625>it's almost like military drone manufacturers are aware of that Some, but you really really shouldn't assume the general brainrot isn't affecting part of the DIB. >Consumer drones aren't designed specifically to counteract the threat of a high-energy laser.Current military drones aren't, they all use carbon fiber.>>108146720>how long does it take to bend that flying plastic and re-charge? I need to calculate that for common types of polymers/CF eventually.
I dunno about it working to shoot down drones or whatever but isn't it a problem if using this is going to shutdown an entire city's airspace? Should they not at least tell the FAA this is being used now, plan accordingly?
>>108146913> Current military drones aren't, they all use carbon fiber.I should correct myself, of course there are some heavy weight drones made out of aluminium or partially PEEK.
>>108146883I don't know why you would insist on using energy to compare the weapons. Almost any cartridge in military use is overkill against a drone. The problem being hitting it.
>>108146913ye, but you also have to account for physics. some retards dont know it, i drawn it on the picthese lasers wont get anything after 300m, i bet top models have their effective range around 100-150m
>>108147015You're wrong lmaoDE M-SHORAD (a mobile truck mounted 50kW system) has demonstrated effective use at 3km+HELIOS (naval 60-120kW laser) has demonstrated effective use at 5-10kmH4/HELWS (10kW ground based system) has demonstrated effective use at 1-2km.IFPC-HEL (300kW truck mounted laser currently prototyping) has a classified range that is described as “extended” compared to existing laser systems in use.These programs have been around for years and have demonstrated ranges well beyond what you're saying is the "limit".
>>108147012because thats the tradition, to use energy, you know, especially in weapons: small arms - small energy, big arms, like cannons - big energy. called physicsyou have a hecking cannon, then you can fire objects in the sky, like with flak 88, 5 kilometers away, big one, planes or tanks. you have a mega watts in there. you have stupid 20kw laser, you may kill flys and cockroaches with it.
>>108147071Yes, but you're ignoring that bullets have to travel on a ballistic trajectory and lose energy to air resistance. They're also limited to a few thousand feet per second at most.Lasers travel at the speed of light and do not follow a ballistic trajectory, which makes it MUCH easier to hit a target at further distance than with a projectile (bullet).You can't simply compare the energy of both and think that's at all a valid comparison to make.
>>108146790maybe you will learn that the usa government is one big rube goldberg scam machine operated by depraved pedophiles to milk wealth from citizens. Govt will waste billions on shit like ITER fusion power which has exactly zero possibility of ever generating more energy than it uses, let alone enough to make it a viable power option.ffs why do you think the retarded middle east wars go on for decades if not because it allows trillions to go from govt to private corporations.
>>108146325there was something more than lasers being used at el paso airport. I have access to a piece of equipment that was going nuts during the shutdown and then just before they opened the airport again it went back to normal.
>>108147085i draw you a picture >>108147085 the loss of energy of the bullet that is going to penetrate.. plastic? is irrelevant. the trajectory calculation is solved compukter problemthose compukters btw became so small that they are mounted on a **rifle** and add little weight. but no, you need a cargo truck to cover those 300m with yer stupid laser speed of light that you have to hold on a target, it doesnt melt the target instantly retard, its not a bullet
>>108147187picture here >>108147015
hope they use it against ice protestors
>>108147187>>108147198Again, you're ignoring the distance and pretending the accuracy of the bullet is perfect.You're clearly just a schizo retard having a melty about technology he simply isn't smart enough to actually comprehend beyond the most basic surface level (which even that you're getting wrong).
The cope here is crazy.>yes its shitty>yes it is expensive>yes it can't be used in a real battlefield>BUT it can be used in the suburbs to down consumer grade drones therefore it is GOODlul
https://youtu.be/SlJBZVoAAkM10 year old video https://youtu.be/XsYymsy_7S4?t=8https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1-vwKxEeZ8https://youtu.be/MmkYcEcSLvA1 year ago https://youtu.be/eFiDYFnlp7s
>>108147214soon as don is out we will teach you, enjoy while you can
>>108147015what is collimation?
>>108147015>these lasers wont get anything after 300m, i bet top models have their effective range around 100-150mAs long as the beam divergence is smaller than the target area and atmospheric loses are neglect-able, a laser can have Km range. The output power needs to go somewhere.Deserts are perfect environments for lasers while humid areas are a significant challenge, I would agree that the range is much more limited in such environments.
>>108147260He doesn't understand what a lens is anon. Gotta start with core concepts, like What is glass?
>>108147065lasers are retarded to use as weapons. not only do you have to deal with attenuation from air, dust, smoke, etc but also the danger of the beam being reflected.
>>108147277apparently not since all the major powers have proven effective systems... well except russia.
>>108147273actually I think we have to take him back to kindergarten and start over.
>>108147268Or to elaborate further: The beam divergence must really be kept pretty low. It's not helpful to spread the the laser's power over a larger area, it reduces the lux of the beam (Power / area) which falls off with r ^ 2
>>108146325but the problem is not shooting at dronesthe problem is actually seeing/finding them before they hit you
>>108147306that's only a problem for russia and Ukraine.
>>108146325do you know how much smart rounds fired from autocannon cost per unit? do you know how much even deu rounds cost per unit? once a laser is built the cost per shot is the maintenance budget. and you're not flinging explosive rounds with a failure rate into civillian airspace. that's why lasers.you're a fucking retard....IN GERMANY
>>108147321OP is american
>>108147312its a problem for everyoneunless you have a super secret alien radar technology in the backhand suicide drones can be seen up to 0.4 miles and only if they dont use fibre optics
>>108147287>proven effective systemslol no they don't. they have defense contractors making claims from test environments and their marketing departments writing wiki articles like it was ad copy.No military is "using" them in any meaningful way beyond testing stuff the contractors want them to buy. Their feedback wasn't good.
>>108147252> $40,000,000 spends 10 seconds to fire a big plastic floating dummy at 300 metersthe ship is one big laser-refrigirator.. those funny experiments..taking the last one.. clearly see the retard who is responsible for pushing this money laundering, covering his laser ass with USA USA..ahahaa so funny.. ChingChong DingDong and MoneyMaker LaundryTaker push laser tech across the globe..pathetic clowns..
>>108146325>canculate how much energyIs that the input energy you're canculating, or the output energy? 'cause them very different things. My burning laser eats 60W but the beam is only 7W...>>108146411>Sure, 20kW is lowI'm sure yours is much larger.Would now be the time to point out you can fuck up the rest of somone's life with less than 1W?
>government is stupid!>canculate>canculatorHuh?
>>108147437>I'm sure yours is much larger.I mean, yea?DE M-SHORAD is 50kWHELIOS is 60kW+ with plans for 300kWetc
Why does everyone who is so extremely negative about this laser ITT have such poor spelling and grammar?
>>108147448Interesting that you actually own these things. Most are lucky to be able to play with them.
>>108147460I bought the first Block III burke that came off the production line. Wont catch me slacking.
>>108147458because we don't care about english...IN GERMANY
