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Users of all levels are welcome to ask questions about GNU/Linux and share experiences.

*** Please be civil, notice the "Friendly" in every Friendly GNU/Linux Thread ***

Before asking for help, please check our list of resources.

If you would like to try out GNU/Linux you can do one of the following:
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Try a random distro:
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>What distro should I choose?
https://igwiki.lyci.de/wiki/Babbies_First_Linux
>What are some cool programs?
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/list_of_applications
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>What are some cool terminal commands?
https://www.commandlinefu.com/commands/browse
https://cheat.sh/
>Where can I learn the command line?
https://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide
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https://tldp.org/LDP/Bash-Beginners-Guide/html/Bash-Beginners-Guide.html
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>How to break out of the botnet?
https://prism-break.org/en/categories/gnu-linux

GNU/Linux Games:
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Previous thread: >>108144945
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First for comfy Debian desktop
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I installed linoox, what now?
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>>108158207
Use leenox.
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How do I activate my hard drives? I want everything I install to go to the one I have selected. Right now everything I install currently goes to the second one which is the one I installed linux to. I want that one to only have linux on it and everything else going to the top. Right now when I install things there doesn't seem to be an option to direct the install anywhere else. I don't understand partitioning at all and none of the guides/videos I watched helped.
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>switching display managers is just disabling the old one and enabling the new one as service
I dunno why I thought it'd be more complicated
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>>108158244
If you're installing things via the package manager, there's no strong distinction between what your distro came with and the stuff you install. You're basically adding the packages you chose to the system. So they will all go together by default.
For most, space taken by packages isn't a major issue. The most common split is between user files (/home) and system files (the rest), and maybe an extra mount for media files, archives etc. The system itself tends to have a small footprint.
But, if you want to split up programs between disks, you can do that transparently without having to change any config using symlinks. For example, if flatpaks are too big you could link /var/lib/flatpak to another disk. But, this is kind of advanced linux stuff. I would make sure you have a reason for it.
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>>108158325
I definitely want to store video games on it at the very least. Also I already installed flatpak and bottles to the ssd. Will I still be able to store steam games on the top hdd? How do I do this
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>>108158387
>Will I still be able to store steam games on the top hdd? How do I do this
you can literally do that in steam itself, idiot
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>>108158387
Mount your hard drive by clicking on it from dolphin then you can select it with steam. (Alternatively, you can mount your hard drive on boot)
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>>108158387
Pretty sure Steam games go to /home by default, but if you want them to go somewhere else, you can configure that in Steam. But, your first step needs to be to partition the HDD and mount it somewhere, then you can tell Steam to use it.
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>>108158437
>, idiot
When you act like a child who thinks helping people is an opportunity to put them down, you look like a bigger idiot than anyone. And you make us all look bad.
Please don't offer your worthless "help" to people in this thread, unless you can act like someone worth listening to.
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What is the best shell? Plain old bash? Zsh? Fish?
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>>108158606
>And you make us all look bad
Oh no, our rep...
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>>108158657
I'm still using the good old bash. Haven't found a reason to change it yet. I don't really style anything though.
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>>108158716
Yeah, I've been doing the same to be honest.
I kind of like fish's autocomplete but I'm too lasy to learn something new and I hear they ain't even all that great for scripting...
Still, bash scripts do look quite messy. to me.
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>>108158657
I wouldn't say there's any "best" shell, just a shell that does what you specifically want better then others. For some that's Zsh because it's super moddable, Fish because of its native history remembering, Bash because it's the default and works just fine.
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>>108158657
Practically speaking bash. Because it's the standard and nobody can come up with something better enough to justify a different language. If I were emperor the official Linux shell would be mksh and we would send zsh enthusiasts to zcamps.
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>>108158733
Bash scripts are basically lingua franca in terms of scripting so it's better to stick with them. If you really are feeling fancy there's always python and go but why bother.
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>>108158297
For me, it's wdm with my own logo.
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>>108158657
I've never had a reason to use anything other than bash.
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>>108158657
I used bash for ages but fish was the default on cachyos and I have tweaking so I tried it. It's kind of neat. Bash is messy in terms of the hacks needed for completion, history from one shell overwriting another's, etc.
I still use bash for any .sh files I make though.
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>>108158920
I very much get what you mean.
How hard would you say it is to transfer knowledge from fish to bash? I don't often make scripts but the few I've made are all in bash. I keep using it cause I want to get better at at so I can script better, but the grass just seems so much greener on other shells...
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>>108158928
Like I said, I don't use fish for scripting so idk. I barely have enough room in my head for bash syntax as it is. Besides, its features seem heavily geared for interactive use, I suppose that's why it's in the name.
For running commands and piping the syntax seems about the same, except you get better completion, coloring, history management. The one downside is hacky things like venvs that expect you to source scripts won't work, or will require you to source a fish version of the file. I would rather use uv if I could anyway desu.
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>>108158846
That looks ancient grandpa get with the times.
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>>108158978
wdm only uses a few mb of ram. I could just not have one and use startx. Yours probably uses like 50mb. A modern login manager is only necessary if you want remote features.
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>>108158763
Why the hate for zsh? I never used it, but might try it out.
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LINUX does not have a good desktop environment
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>>108159043
Xfce works for me.
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is there a way to check what caused a kernel panic? it just happened to and i have no idea what could have caused it. i did
>sudo journalctl -b-1
and it just shows discord freaking out
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Be real with me. I'm never gonna be able to run Substance 3D Painter without paying for it on Steam, am I? Been trying for a few hours now. I tried installing the 2025 Windows version through Lutris, and got to the point the software tries to launch and shows the initial splash screen, but then crashes. I'm not missing a super simple fix like that bleeding edge wine version that got Photoshop to work on Linux, am I?

Oh god. I'm gonna have to move to 3DCoat at this rate.
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>>108159609
What distro? What's the output when it crashes?
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>>108159583
sudo dmesg | less
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Why is there a KDE System Settings in Debian MATE? It feels wrong. I don't want bloat.
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>>108157821
I wanna use Fedora KDE so bad but linux is retarded about modelines which sucks when youre using a CRT
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>>108157821
I don't understand when I
>pip install hatch
Terminal tells me to
>apt install python3-hatch
and when I do it tells me
> permission denied, are you root?
and when I put sudo infront it says
>unable to lacate package python3-hatch

I went to hatch's documentation and I even read their installation tutorial and it just kinda assumes that everything would work and install for you.
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>>108159766
>google it
>"Install pipx"
>"Okay..."
>install
>pipx install hatch
>just werks
Okay... Why... I thought pipx is just a global pip install so why did it work and why didn't pip?
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>>108159762
why specifically fedora
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>>108159766
I don't know if you're on debian on ubuntu but quickly checking their repos there really is no package with the exact name "python3-hatch".
Next time, try searching the repos (apt search) with the name of the thing you wanna install and it should spit you a list of the packages that kind of fit the bill with a little one liner describing them and the proper package name.
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>>108159793
How would I know which one is the right one in the future if I get multiple hits?
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>>108159736
maybe some bullshit happened with hardware acceleration on discord, i wasn't doing anything but sharing my screen so it was really weird.
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>>108159790
I've heard nicer things about it than Debian. Not really interested in a distro debate though, from what I've heard it's more of a KDE/Wayland problem. I can't go higher than 1204x768 on my HP MX70 despite being able to use 1440x1080 on Windows
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>>108159806
You now that Fedora's usecase isn't consumer computing right?
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>>108159806
>I can't go higher than 1204x768 on my HP MX70 despite being able to use 1440x1080 on Windows
on both arch and fedora i used KDE, it works fine with my 2560x1440p monitor, could be a driver issue
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>>108159796
Their description, pic related as an example. It's pretty clear the one you'd want is the first one, "python-hatch".
Apt probably also sorts them by relevance. In this example, the last 2 seem to have nothing to do with python hatch, while the one you'd want is at the top. Sometimes this is upside down since you'd have to scroll up to see the first hit, while the last one would be right there above the prompt line.
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>>108159801
Half the time it's going to be nouveau on old Nvidia hardware for me. I have to avoid opening certain problematic programs like gufw because I get a guaranteed panic. Same with the file selection dialog in Transmission.
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>>108159817
>Not really interested in a distro debate though, from what I've heard it's more of a KDE/Wayland problem.
Here's your (You), last one from me
>>108159819
Oh hmm maybe. It was a fresh install of the distro though, i thought drivers were installed with the distro? If not I guess I'll give it another go.
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>>108159823
I just did an apt search myself and found out, what's nice is that my terminal highlights users which is nice.
My next problem is how to install installer for python? There's no installation guide
https://github.com/pypa/installer?tab=readme-ov-file
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>>108159691
CachyOS. And the output (I think this is it?):
https://pastebin.com/uA0eGqLT
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>>108159835
>i thought drivers were installed with the distro?
Kinda, amd and open-source Nvidia. Proprietary Nvidia drivers have to be installed manually, see rpm fusion. Should be noted their cuda package contains xorg in the name but works on wayland as well.
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>>108159901
Ah, I had AMD though
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>>108158207
You installed the WRONG version of Linux. You should install <distro I like> instead.

>>108158244
You have an option in Steam to create install locations and then you'll be prompted to pick where to install your games whenever you click "install". But it must not be an NTFS/FAT drive. And you'll want to make it auto-mount at boot so that it gets mounted before the Steam client launches, otherwise the client might not find it until you manually kill it and re-open it.

>>108158657
zsh is simply a better bash.
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>>108159857
>Call from 00006FFFFFBFD887 to unimplemented function msvcp140.dll
Try installing vcrun2022 with winetricks (not sure how you'd do this with lutris, I assume there's a "winetricks in prefix" option when you select the program)
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>>108160010
what about other non-steam games? everything else auto downloads to my ssd and i need that to not happen
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>>108158325
how do I mount my HDDs with write privilege?
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>>108160034
you still have a ssd + hdd setup?
That's a pain to use.
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>>108160034
>what about other non-steam games
don't most game installers let you pick where you want them to install? what game are you specifically trying to install that doesn't let you do that
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>>108160062
yes. i have an ssd that i install my os to and two hdds, one for games, the other for misc. except ive never been able to figure out how to get stuff to install to specific places on linux ever and ive used linux for 2 years
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>>108160073
>non-steam games
>ive never been able to figure out how to get stuff to install to specific places on linux ever
Create the wineprefix where you want the game to be installed, that's it. For GUI launchers there should be an option to change the default prefix location
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>>108160034
>everything else auto downloads to my ssd
If you're talking about applications which download things into your Downloads folder then you can simply move (cut) it onto your HDD and then create a symlink to it in your home folder. As in, you should
>have a Downloads folder on your HDD
>have a link called "Downloads" in your home folder which points to the Downloads folder on your HDD
That's how I did it back when I used multiple drives. Anything that is downloaded into Downloads will just be redirected to your HDD.

If you're talking about Flatpaks themselves then you can create a separate Flatpak installation path and just remove the default user/system ones. I forgot how to do this but a simple Google search should give you an AI summary, it has something to do with editing a config file and just running a single command.

If you're talking about Bottles, the bottles/wineprefixes can be installed into arbitrary locations as long as you give it permissions to access your drive using Flatseal.
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>>108160073
installing stuff to specific places is alien to the regular linux use. In some cases, you can edit some config (like for where flatpacks go) or the programm itself let's you change it (like steam) but generally you either start to use hacky bindmounts or you start making your own distro. This was the biggest and most confusing change coming from windows.
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>>108160069
osu!
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>>108160110
it's an appimage, you can just put it there and run it
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>>108160098
>config data is in the config folder
it just makes sense, allows pooling libraries and resources.
the only downside to this is you need a package manager to remove apps.
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>>108159043
it actually has the best because you can customize everything.
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Ultramarine seems to be all I wanted but I don't appreciate the discord kitten community
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>>108158244
>he activates his hard drives
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>>108158799
Python is good for more complex scripts. It's also found on pretty much every Linux system apart from embedded shit so you can count on it being there.
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>>108159806
The latest KDE fixes that if you use kscreen-doctor but I don't know if Fedora's KDE is new enough for that yet or if you have to wait for Plasma 6.6 or 6.7, etc.
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>>108160438
>>108159806
https://blogs.kde.org/2025/12/13/this-week-in-plasma-wayland-screen-mirroring-and-custom-modes/#plasma-660-2
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>>108160455
https://invent.kde.org/plasma/kwin/-/merge_requests/8534
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>>108160522
I think the difficulty aspect is more of a troubleshooting thing than anything else. Some people get in there expecting specific hardware of software to work and it can get in the way. Nothing about usage outside of the terminal should be difficult for any Windows user (and even then, I don't think basic commands are keeping people away either).
Ultramarine seems fine to me, I just found about it yesterday and it being Fedora but sane, not Nobara, and not atomic, seems appropriate. I have to make more use of it but it seems solid to me, more so than something like Nobara (even for gayming, you can switch to the cachyOS kernel with a command). I wonder how it handles updates with anything regarding rpmfusion since sometimes that shit used to go out of sync with Fedora.
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I've been exclusively using Linux on my desktop and laptop for a year now. Before that, I dual booted with Winslop, but I don't anymore.
I reached a point where everything just unironically works. Every piece of software I need just works. Every game I want to play just works. Every piece of hardware I want to use just works.
The OS just feels clean and lean, with no bloat or spyware constantly annoying me. Linux is working right now like a perfectly oiled machine, to the point that I'm starting to get bored and have started writing shell scripts to automate the most mundane tasks.
I've never been happier using a computer.
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>>108160595
>I wonder how it handles updates with anything regarding rpmfusion since sometimes that shit used to go out of sync with Fedora.
It is still Fedora, and still using Dnf, they just ran a script for you. Most likely those issues would still occur. RPMFusion is not part of Fedora so it can fall out of sync whenever.
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>>108159806
You can add that resolution as a kernel parameter.

https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Kernel_mode_setting#Forcing_modes
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does the nvidia linux driver allow for interlaced outputs?
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>>108157821
sudo chown -R user:group /path


This should not require the commandline.

The autism of linux continues. Literally no gui file browser can do it (without sudo-ing it).
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>>108160688
sudo takeown /f /r /path
sudo icacls fwetrakopjhfweaipojkerga


This should not require the command line.

The autism of Windows continues. Literally no gui file browser can do it (without admin UAC prompt)
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>>108160698
Oh, and the admin UAC prompt doesn't work anyway half of the time (because "Fuck you", that's why) so you have to do it in cmd.exe or PowerShell anyway.
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>>108160632
>It is still Fedora, and still using Dnf, they just ran a script for you. Most likely those issues would still occur. RPMFusion is not part of Fedora so it can fall out of sync whenever.
Didn't that get better? I read it was properly maintained by red hat/fedora project members. I remember 3 years back there were some issues with this though
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>>108160728
I think there is supposed to be some communication between them now but they are still two separate projects. RPMFusion is third-party, it is not part of Fedora, it is not associated with Red Hat. They want nothing to do with it despite the fact they're all using it themselves.
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>>108160736
That's a bummer. I guess I will still deal with it though, I just despise the idea of having to use flatpaks for every little thing.
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>>108160743
As long as you don't update every day then you'll probably be fine. The issues tend to happen when Fedora rebuilds some packages and RPMFusion hasn't had the time to re-spin their package yet so Dnf will replace the free package for the butchered Fedora one.

As long as you wait a bit then you're probably fine.
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>>108160755
Yeah it's not like I install everything from there either, just codecs and steam.
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>>108157865
on GOD 4r

Gaming? werks
Video/audio editing? werks
Writing nigger shitty job applications and "TaILorInG my Cv" because I need a fucking nigger job? werks
Almost half a year now when I switched to trixie, shit is cash NO cap.
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>>108158207
congrats u r now epic
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Dolphin ServiceMenus and scripting with kdialog are pretty fucking cool.
Stuff like this that integrates command
line withe GUIs in general I guess. Really feels like you're getting the power of both.
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>>108158207
Now you enjoy your Russian bot
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>>108158244
>Right now when I install things there doesn't seem to be an option to direct the install anywhere else.

I'll be straight with you and say Linux doesn't have this option bro. Only when they run from AppImage.
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>>108160600
Kinda. I managed to install gaomon tablet drivers but I can't open the control panel to change buttons.
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>>108160892
Have you tried opentabletdriver?
Been using it with a Huion for years now.
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>>108160886
windows doesn't really have this option either, installs are always leaving files in appdata and shit in the registry.
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>>108160907
But you can still install it to any drive. Portable apps with portable configuration (typically stored on the same drive they reside) are a different matter.

>>108158244
Technically, there is a way to do this in most package managers, they have --sysroot option that tells it to use that path as the root drive instead and then you can chroot into that and run your program from there, or you can do some fancy overlayfs or bind mount thing.
You really have to know what you're doing to make that work right though.

Best to just use AppImage for this.
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is niri the greatest window manager ever made?
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>>108158978
what's this
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I just noticed that my desktop program that I wrote in C++/GTK3 keeps constantly using 2% of my CPU, which is not a lot, but it's weird because it's completely idle and should be sitting at 0% or at most 0.1% CPU usage. It's doing literally nothing in the background.

On one hand, this triggers my autism. On the other hand, I don't feel like firing up VSCodium to investigate this shit right now. But I'm curious about what is happening.
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>>108160969
/unsubscribe
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>>108160969
Don't worry about it. Resources are cheap.
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>>108157606
>arch
used it for a year and updates kept breaking shit every couple of months, not doing that or any rolling release distro ever again
>fedora
I installed this 3 times over the years, and it never even managed to boot into a functioning system on my PC.
If I don't stick to Ubuntu, I might at most switch to Mint.
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Don't have a screenshot because too lazy, but after using Terminus TTF variants for a while I realized something was off. Letter spacing was too wide regardless of the font sizes used (I know that only certain sizes are valid eg. 12pt, 13.5pt, 15pt etc).
Changed to the original bitmap font and now it is normal. Using alacritty terminal.
>https://terminus-font.sourceforge.net/
Too bad the compiled fonts are not available from here but on fedora they are called 'terminus-fonts'.
I don't know if this is alacritty issue or are the ttf fonts truly fucked but at least bitmap fonts are working.
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How do I disable a monitor on Linux? Specifically Fedora KDE. I'm running to monitors and whenever I want to disable one it says this error:

Couldn’t apply display configuration: Position of output HDMI-A-2 is negative, that is not supported
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Do you have to go through these weird steps when installing virtualbox? This is what they want me to do on their website:

Add the following line to your /etc/apt/sources.list. For Debian 13 and older, replace '<mydist>' with 'trixie', 'bookworm', or 'bullseye'. For Ubuntu 24.10 and older, 'replace '<mydist>' with 'oracular', 'noble', or 'jammy'.
deb [arch=amd64 signed-by=/usr/share/keyrings/oracle-virtualbox-2016.gpg] https://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian <mydist> contrib
The Oracle public key for verifying the signatures can be downloaded here. You can add these keys with
sudo gpg --yes --output /usr/share/keyrings/oracle-virtualbox-2016.gpg --dearmor oracle_vbox_2016.asc
or combine downloading and registering:
wget -O- https://www.virtualbox.org/download/oracle_vbox_2016.asc | sudo gpg --yes --output /usr/share/keyrings/oracle-virtualbox-2016.gpg --dearmor
The key fingerprint for oracle_vbox_2016.asc is
B9F8 D658 297A F3EF C18D 5CDF A2F6 83C5 2980 AECF
Oracle Corporation (VirtualBox archive signing key) <info@virtualbox.org>
To install VirtualBox, do
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get install virtualbox-7.1

Why can't I just do the last step?
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>>108161071
xrandr --output <output> --off
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>>108161114
>xrandr
It's not the last decade, grandpa.
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>>108161114
that won't work on wayland
you need something that interacts directly with kwin like gdctl
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I'm now running sway with vulkan. I feel superior to opengl plebs now.
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>>108161130
why choose to make fun of me? anon didn't specify what he was using and this is what i use
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>>108161022
>used it for a year and updates kept breaking shit every couple of months, not doing that or any rolling release distro ever again
you're retarded and/or you installed shit from the AUR without knowing wtf you're doing. that's a you problem.
>fedora
if you can't even get fedora to boot, then yeah you're fucking retarded. it's the most basic bitch, stable distro there is for "home users".
ubuntu tried to be this for a long time but it's filled with gay bugs and errors like the initramfs crap that has bitten many of us here.
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>>108161161
wayland is the default. it's a safe assumption for people to use the default.
x11 is getting removed entirely next year from kde too.
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>>108161071
That's a bug in the UI caused by overlapping monitors which is not supported. Make sure you drag the monitor next to another one and that it's not on top.
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>>108161134
>>108161130
>>108161114
You can use kscreen-doctor if you want a CLI tool.
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>>108161171
i don't know what the default is for fedora. last time i used it it was x11. isn't wayland supposed to be x11 compatible anyway?
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>>108161183
overlapping monitors works in X
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>>108161197
>isn't wayland supposed to be x11 compatible anyway?
wayland can run x11 apps, but there are some limitations. in any case xrandr xdotool and pretty much anything that affects the compositor directly do not work under wayland.
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>>108161210
It works in KDE too it's just confusing as hell so they added some safeguards because there's no logical reason for you to want that. It's not supposed to happen and is a bug in the UI front-end.
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>>108159745
There shouldn't be? did you do an unclean install of KDE?
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>>108161236
yea, i think it's fair to say you usually don't want that unless you're making an art exhibit or something. though i'm generally against refusing to do something it can do just because it's uncommon to do
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>>108161231
i haven't looked much into wayland. not because i hate it or anything, but just because x11 still does everything i want it to do, basically i just haven't been bothered to spend the time on it. it may seem strange since many people here are new users, but i've been using linux to some capacity for 20 years now
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>>108160688
>Literally no gui file browser can do it (without sudo-ing it)
Werks on my machine tho?
File manager is Caja btw, it also has a "Open as administrator" option in right click menu that allows you to open it as root without a terminal.
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>>108161277
>x11 is good enough
sure. wayland is better.
anyways as i said, soon enough you won't have a choice as the entire linux ecosystem is moving away from x11.
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>>108161319
eh, we'll see. i'm still using a window manager that hasn't had a release in 11 years. if i see some pressure or a reason to move to it i might
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>>108161343
>if i see some pressure
you will. it's just a matter of time before apps drop it eg gtk5 won't do x11 at all.
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>>108161319
>>108161350
Wayland has been touted as the future for 17 years now
>gtk5
Qt still exists, and GNOME is slowly losing popularity to KDE, I can see developers defaulting to using Qt rather GTK beecause of that.
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>>108160688
There's no reason to do this unless you want to brick your system
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>>108161350
>gtk5 won't do x11 at all.
gtk5? i don't think i've even used a "gtk4" program. my browser which i'm posting from still uses gtk2
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>>108161392
There is a reason, for external hard drives that aren't mounted with uid=,gid= option.
It's not clear what they're trying to do though. Definitely, you should not chown/chmod random files and directories in /etc or /usr, etc.
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>>108161394
GTK2 is slowly getting pulled from distros so that's a problem.
Arch only has it in the AUR now and give it a couple of years and other distros will probably be removing it from their repos too.
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>>108161375
>I can see developers defaulting to using Qt
what makes you think Qt will keep developing x11? a rendering pipeline is a large maintenance burden, they'll drop it too.
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>>108161394
>my browser which i'm posting from still uses gtk2
Palemoon?
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>>108161408
that's ok, official repos aren't meant to be restrictions regarding what you can run. i have lots of thing installed which aren't in my systems' official repos
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>>108161394
>i don't think i've even used a "gtk4" program
well that sucks for you, as gtk4 features shit like a vulkan renderer.
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>>108161413
Qt will probably keep it because it's more modular than GTK. It's not really a burden for them when it exists as a separate plugin.
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>>108161413
>what makes you think Qt will keep developing x11?
Because Qt is cross platform and not necessarily tied to Linux like GTK is
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>>108161421
I sure do care a lot what graphics api my flatshit widgets are rendered with.
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>>108161415
you know it
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>>108161417
Obviously, you can run whatever you like and nobody will stop you. It's a problem if the applications people are using aren't necessarily being maintained very well though.
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what about CAD shit like solidworks, i have to keep winslop for programs like that
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>>108161457
Yeah... I tried to use Palemoon but it had problems
One of these is that it renders websites using my gtk2 theme which is really annoying because I'm using a dark theme and that shit looks really off on light-themed websites.
And other problems is that some websites like
https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/
look very broken and unreadable.
Stuff like that made Palemoon unusable for me, which is unfortunate because I liked how it looked. Eventually I just settled with GNU IceCat.
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>>108161471
What's wrong with FreeCAD?
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Trying to figure out why YouTube videos lag on Firefox. I recently switched to Fedora KDE from Windows and just moved my entire profile over and it works fine with everything except YouTube. It drops a ton of frames and I can't figure out why. I tried creating a new profile and it works completely fine. I have tried disabling all addons but I still get lag.
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>>108161492
Fedora doesn't ship with proprietary drivers or codecs and their build of Firefox apparently doesn't have working hardware acceleration. Try the Flatpak version of Firefox but get it from Flathub instead of Fedora's Flatpak repo and see if that helps.
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>>108161114
doesn't work since I'm on wayland
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>>108161530
wayland sissies? our response?
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>>108161071
>How do I disable a monitor on Linux?
Have you tried... pulling the plug? or smashing your monitor with a hammer till it gets disabled?
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>>108161487
You would know if you wasn't unemployed. It's always hilarious when retards recomend 'free' software as alternatives to industry standard solutions.
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>>108161071
Just paint it black
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>>108160934
I'm guessing gdm3 or whatever gnome calls their display manager now
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>>108161077
Because they're hosting a more up to date version of virtualbox on their own repo compared to debians. But you can probably skip all that now and just use the extrepo tool to install their repo.
You're better off just switching to virt-manager or gnome-boxes though.
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>>108161375
The problem with QT is that the only two ways you can write qt applications is either with python or c++ compared to gtk unless this has changed.
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>>108161571
If you're employed I'm sure your employer supplies you with a work computer for whatever CAD shit you have to do. You can install whatever you want on your private computer you know? You don't work for your employer on your private computer like some cuck, right?
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>>108161471
Found this but it hasn't been updated in 3 years.
https://github.com/cryinkfly/SOLIDWORKS-for-Linux/
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>>108161544
what should I do anon?

>>108161564
I'm not gonna unplug each time. Besides, I want to shut one of the two monitors so I can use it for my console. Takes less than a second to do on windows but I've spent half an hour trying to figure out why it doesn't work on wayland
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>>108161530
>doesn't work since I'm on wayland
>>108161544
>wayland sissies? our response?
>>108161609
>what should I do anon?

>>108161189
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>>108161619
Thank god it worked, thanks anon. I'd rather not type the command line every single time I want to do that but it does the job.
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can someone point me in the right direction please?

>install fedora w cinnamon
>werks gr8...for now
>slowly starting to see high CPU for no reason and UI lag
>getting worse by the week
>all applications using like 5x more than they should (CPU at 80% just for youtube in firefox)
>htop always 10-15% CPU
>fan revving up even when all applications are closed and just idling
>cinnamon --replace constantly using atleast 30% CPU
>must be cinnamon being dumb, switch to MATE
>ahhhhh much better
>firefox is <10% CPU to play same youtube videos and htop is like 2%
>laptop cool to the touch even when playing youtube
>2 hours go by...virtually all the same issues come back in MATE as in cinnamon
>firefox is better but still 50% CPU to play same youtube video
>instead of cinnamon --replace constantly using 30% it is now /usr/libexec/Xorg -core -noreset constantly using 20%
>htop is constantly 10%
>UI doesn't really lag but locks up a few seconds every few seconds. It locks up about 15-30 seconds every 10 minutes or so

I did not have these issues in fedora with cinnamon on this very same laptop when I last used it a few years ago
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>>108161654
Did you check your temperatures? Could be a cooling issue, as in your cooler got slightly disconnected from your CPU or GPU.
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>>108161686
my desktop (which I know for sure the cooler is attached properly and even has fresh thermal paste) is having the same issues with cinnamon. I didn't try a different DE on that computer though. I'll check the cooler anyway when I am able to

Poor cooling wouldn't explain the high CPU usage though would it?
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>>108161652
you don't have to? you can bind commands to shortcuts. i have shortcut that turns on and off my second monitor.
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>>108161654
Check journalctl and look for any strange messages. Also you might want to check which power management solution you have and whether it works correctly or not.
For example I have a strange issue with tlp where it works correctly when started in AC mode, but if I unplug the charger or force it to start in battery mode then it'll never go back to AC mode until I reboot it in practice, the cpu clock stays locked and the GPU usage would be capped as well. Forcing it to start on AC mode doesn't do the trick either by the way.
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>>108161744
>Poor cooling wouldn't explain the high CPU usage though would it?
Yeah probably not actually. I was thinking maybe CPU throttling reduces the maximum reported clock speed, and that CPU usage is calculated as "current clock / max clock speed", but that's probably not how it works.

Cinnamon itself is very CPU heavy apparently, but if the issue occurs in MATE then I'm still inclined to believe this is some kind of a hardware issue or perhaps a power management issue.
Try downgrading your kernel version or switching to something like Ubuntu 24 LTS to eliminate this being some regression in the recent kernel versions. And try using the power settings of your DE to switch your laptop to performance mode instead of balanced/powersave.
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>>108158207
did you make sure to partition your home directory separately from the root? If not, you fucked up and need to reinstall everything.
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>>108161471
Yeah... just stay in windows. Can't trust Wine, it may work on the surface but once you do something specific and it crashes there's nothing you can do about that.
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>>108161526
Already had all the codecs but tried installing from Flathub and it didn't work. I also noticed I only get framedrops when I hover over the video.
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>>108162044
Okay I get framedrops again if I open other pages in the background. The loading makes the video drop frames for a few seconds again.
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>>108161748
I'll search a bit but I'm new to Linux, I have no idea how to do that
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Why the hell are custom Aurorae decorations so god damn laggy? Can't they use OpenGL or Vulkan for this shit?
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>>108162087
>I have no idea how to do that
depends on your desktop environment.
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Hey /g/, I’m on Linux Mint 22.3 Cinnamon and I don’t like it. Could I just “sudo apt install mint-meta-xfce” or another desktop environment? Would doing that take awhile to “cleanup/declutter”? Has anyone had any issues? I know about time shift and I’ll make a backup first. I have plenty of free space on my SSD Linux install.
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>>108157821
>https://distrosea.com
Thank you OP this cured my Distrohopping.
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>>108162147
switching DE can lead to nasty bugs, it's better if you do a clean install, test from the live-cd.
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>>108162147
No it would give him fuckloads of headaches because of leftover Cinnamon bits and pieces being lodged in the Xfce session anyway, and completely removing everything Cinnamon is probably gonna just break something. Just get him to re-install using the Xfce ISO
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>>108162173
>>108162191
How do I properly backup my /home/ folder and transition it to a fresh LM XFCE or a different Linux distribution? For more context, I upgraded 22.2 to 22.3 and it looks bad in my opinion. :(
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>>108162270
just do an rsync?
but you'll want to cleanup your home folder too as config data can fuck you too.
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>>108161581
What's wrong with VirtualBox then? I don't need to manage multiple virtual machines, just one for Windows and maybe second for some interesting Linux distro
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>>108162291
VirtualBox is significantly slower than virt-manager.
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>>108162310
>1/4 of the app is a headerbar
god i hate ssds
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>>108162147
I really hate how apt works, it classifies dependencies as either a hard dependency, recommended or suggested, this leads to complicated behavior such as apt not removing orphaned recommended packages because they are recommended by another package, let me illustrate this situation:

1. User has package pkg1 and pkg2
2. pkg2 has pkg3 as a "recommended" in APT but pkg3 is not installed
3. User installs pkg4 which pulls in pkg3 as a hard dependency
4. User decides to uninstall pkg4, but pkg3 does not get removed because apt recognizes it as a recommend package of pkg2
5. pkg3 is left cluttering the system

This problem is the exact reason why installing DEs on apt-based distros is a headache, Fedora suffers from the same thing too because dnf also has something similar called "weak dependencies". The only distros that don't suffer from this are the arch based ones because pacman doesn't do all this "recommended" and "suggests" bullshit with packages.

Mind you there are solutions to this, you can completely disable recommended packages in apt by configuring apt with these lines:
APT::Install-Recommends "false";
APT::Install-Suggests "false";
APT::AutoRemove::RecommendsImportant "false";
APT::AutoRemove::SuggestsImportant "false";

I've done this for all my clean installs of Devuan/Debian and it makes the system really light, however I don't recommend doing it on an already installed system because it might break.

If you're interested, I once got autistic and wrote a bigass script specifically to analyze orphaned packages on apt based systems:
https://files.catbox.moe/cp8fz8.sh

I would be interested to see what this script spits out for you.
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From what I've read, there exist over 5000 troonix distros so I'd like to narrow down the search just a bit if at all possible.

I'm looking for a distro allowing for the following:

. Works fast on Core2 Duo stinkpad and doesn't take more than a quarter of a gig of mem for itself.

. Minimalist iso download containing nothing but the kernel (drivers allowed), a shell to type shit in and a fully functional package manager that downloads and installs everything automatically like termux does on my phone.

. Good firewall that handles every sort of traffick and protocols available to the platform.

. C compiler with full, by the books C90 compliance.

. A browser where I can install uBlock Origin.

That's it.
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>>108162347 (me)
Also, please not that my script can make mistakes because it does not account for virtual packages, which are another headache which complicates apt
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>>108162365
Might as well ditch Linux and install OpenBSD if that's all you need
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>>108162365
>From what I've read, there exist over 5000 troonix distros
It's like with web browsers, there's only really a handful and a billion forks. Although in the Linux world not all of those forks are even forks but they use something like Ubuntu's repositories directly, all they do is come with different settings and themes.
>Works fast on Core2 Duo
Use your better PC to compile a tailored Gentoo system for that thing.
>Minimalist iso download containing nothing but the kernel (drivers allowed), a shell to type shit
You can do a minimal system with all distributions. IIRC it's around 200 "packages" that make up a system like that.
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>>108162436
Well, that's my best pc if by better you mean faster. As pointed out by the other anon, OpenBSD is on the table, particularly because there's a super small bootstrapping image download that I'm guessing one can use as the foundation for everything else that might be needed? I was once recommended Kiss Linux but I had to compile shit, which's what I'm trying to avoid here.
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>>108162330
For me it's the opposite. I fucking hate CSDs.
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>>108162502
Well there are distros designed for minimalism or very old hardware like Alpine Linux, AntiX, MX Linux, Tiny Core, Damn Small Linux, etc...
>particularly because there's a super small bootstrapping image download
Well most distros have a netinstall .iso if you just want a small install image (assuming you have ethernet and a good connection). There's also debootsrap and pacstrap if you're interested in bootstrapping a system manually.
>I had to compile shit
Well don't use source-based distros like Gentoo or Slackware, most distros just package binaries, how did you even discover KISS Linux is beyond me as that distro is extremely niche.
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>>108161402
>>108161392
he's probably wanting to gain write access to another ssd/hdd he just installed and auto mounted somewhere.
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>>108162502
you can go with a minimal install with most of the major distros. Debían offers it via netinstall, fedora through fedora everything, arch through it's standard install. Since you'll be dealing with the biggest distros and their repos, odds of having to compile are lower.
There's antix as well which uses debian repos iirc and is tailored towards destitute tier PCs. I have no clue about its defaults. It comes with a gay ass political slogan though.
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>>108162330
You do realize you can change that easily, right? on the other hand CSD is much harder to change
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>>108162561
>i prefer 3 bars instead of 1
what's wrong with you?
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>>108162630
>It comes with a gay ass political slogan though.
Can't be worse than commie nigger terrorist Nelson Mandingo video on Ubuntu.
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>>108162651
if the app doesn't support csds you're forever cucked with an extra titlebar that has 1-3 buttons.
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>>108162696
No you aren't, SSDs can be disabled or modified to your exact liking, this can be configured through the window manager, which again is very difficult thing to do with CSD.

On the other hand if a window with CSD decides to have fat header bar then there's nothing you can do about it.
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>>108162721
>SSDs can be disabled
and how am i supposed to close the window or move it then?
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>>108162733
With keyboard shortcuts, it's much faster and more efficient, you really need to try it for a few days to feel the difference, once you start closing, minimizing and maximizing widnows with keyboard shortcuts you can never go back.
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>>108162754
>just use the keyboard
so not an actual solution, thanks.
fyi you can disable decorations on gtk4 just fine too.
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>>108162733
Oh and to move and resize windows you can click anywhere on the window while holding Alt key, I'm not sure if your window manager has this feature but it's pretty much has become an essential feature for me, I don't need to reach for the titlebar to move or resize windows, I just hold alt then left click and boom I can move windows in an instant. Same thing with resizing but you press right click instead of left click.
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>>108162347
https://files.catbox.moe/s6csqn
ok so, I used Timeshift AND manually backed up my files, and then ran "sudo apt install mint-meta-xfce" and then "sudo apt remove mint-meta-xfce" because I didn't like that either and yes there were bugs.
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>>108162788
I'm not sure why it didn't upload.
https://pastebin.com/qGtwcLtL
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>>108162291
gnome-boxes and virt-manager are near native performance aside from graphics due to being a type 1 hypervisor while virtualbox isnt.
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>>108162806
I restored my Timeshift (worked perfectly) and here's my system now. I suppose I might distro hop. Thank you! I didn't know about recommended/suggested packages.
https://pastebin.com/9wB2zUCF
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>>108162806
Well that's weird, most of these should be removed when you run "sudo apt autoremove". apt has a marking system which marks packages as either being manually installed or automatically installed. Manually installed packages are the ones you specifically installed with apt, the auto packages are the dependencies that get pulled by manual packages. I wonder if your install of linux mint came with these packages marked as "auto" by default. "sudo apt autoremove" will remove all packages marked as auto that are not a dependency of any other manual package.

You can see manually installed packages with:
apt-mark showmanual

And automatically installed packages:
apt-mark showauto

You can also mark packages manually like this:
sudo apt-mark manual <packages to be marked as manual>
sudo apt-mark auto <packages to be marked as manual>
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>>108162365
Just use arch. No idea if gcc is sufficient enough for
>. C compiler with full, by the books C90 compliance.
But the only other compiler people use is clang.
>A browser where I can install uBlock Origin.
Arch has ublock origin as an actual package
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>>108162861
>sudo apt-mark auto <packages to be marked as manual>
I meant package to be marked as auto

Also forgot to mention that the script I posted only analyzes packages marked as auto.
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>>108162347
Do you know about the stuff like ?config-files ?obsolete that you can feed into apt-remove ?
apt autopurge '?config-files' '?obsolete' 

I think theres an ?orphaned or ?orphan as well
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>>108162873
Yes but there are problems with it, which is why I wrote my own script
For example it can't show you packages that are "replaceable", this situation happens when a package is a provider for a virtual package, here's an example:

1. xorg package depends on x-terminal-emulator
2. however x-terminal-emulator is a virtual package, one of the providers of this package is xterm
3. trying to remove xterm will remove xorg
4. however installing another terminal emulator, such as xfce4-terminal, will provide x-terminal-emulator
5. after doing that xterm can be removed without removing xorg becuase there's still at least one package that provides x-terminal-emulator

So essentially, the xterm package is what I call "replaceable", in other words it can only be removed if you replace it with something else that provides the same virtual package.
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>>108162873
Oh and also, those are called apt patterns, read about them here:
man apt-patterns

This is one of the nicer manpages to read
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Goodmorning sirs. I'm having troubles right now with Arch Linux. To summarize, I recently messed up grub.cfg so bad that I decided to wipe out and reinstall grub. The problem now is that no one is asking me for the encrypted partition passphrase. I'm stuck during the
>Loading initial ramdisk
and systemd is telling me
>Timed out waiting for /dev/mapper/root
I checked multiple times /etc/default/grub and even /etc/mkinitcpio.conf for missing hooks but nothing seems wrong. What should I do anons?
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>>108162671
Yes. Because I have the option to disable any and all 3 of those "bars". With csd I'm infinitely more limited in what I can do and applications don't consistently display all the buttons where they should be. It's the job of the DE and the window manager to decorate windows. An app should not decorate itself arbitrarily.
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>>108159855
bumping
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>>108160969
If it has a GTK animation (e.g. spinning dots) then that's the cause
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>>108163157
No way that's still a thing.
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>>108163196
Yes it is, I have experienced this while theming GTK3, it has support for CSS animations which apparently take that much resources.

Try opening any GTK3 app with GTK_DEBUG=interactive then put
@keyframes blink {
from { opacity: 1; }
50% { opacity: 0; }
to { opacity: 1; }
}

* {
animation: blink 1s linear infinite;
}

In the CSS tab, you will see that it takes quite a bit of CPU.
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>>108163265
probably because it's not hardware accelerated.
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>>108159855
Is the python3-installer package not what you're looking for?
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Is there a way to use tile backgrounds with gnome?
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Anyone here use that pikaOS distro?
Any problems with it?
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>tfw I would actually use GNOME if VRR and HDR were not broken as fuck
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>>108163557
usecase for backgrounds?
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I'm trying to make a custom icon theme, and frustratingly some apps by default re-use icons originally meant for other contexts, for example, this Crashed Processes Viewer program uses tools-report-bug.svg which is also used as an icon for the Help > Report Bug... action in Dolphin, for instance. So when I make my own version of tools-report-bug it gets used in all contexts. Is there a way to tell the system "only use my icon when it needs to be a certain size or above, otherwise fallback to the default Breeze icon"?

I tried changing the relevant part of index.theme to be like this but it didn't work, it still just uses my icon for all sizes:

[actions/additional]
Size=96
MinSize=32
MaxSize=256
Type=Scalable
Context=Actions
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>>108163584
you'll be happy to know then that vrr is coming out of experimental for v50 in march
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>>108163765
I heard there are improvements but I'll have to test that out I guess
All I know is when using wine on wayland (the only way to somehow get HDR to work on GNOME because gamescope somehow breaks) VRR just breaks and that unfortunately, there's no simple "tell X application not to enable VRR" way unless it goes windowed.
I'm hoping too that they fix the fucking HDR brightness slider.
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>>108163557
>No option to tile
Does GNOME really?

Just install xwallpaper and run
xwallpaper --tile /path/to/wallpaper.png
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>>108163584
I would've used gnome if it was more closer to how it was back in the early gnome 3 days before they started removing features and forcing this stupid csd shit in gtk itself.
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>>108163557
gnome tweaks? Thought I could do it with dconf too
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>>108163977
>removing features
what feature exactly do you want from GNOME that isn't supported natively or through extensions ?
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>>108163990
>gnome tweaks?
I tried it before and it didn't work
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>>108163557
You probably have to use Imagemagick to make a full sized wallpaper from the tile. Yes, this is wasteful. Yes, it is retarded that GNOME's desktop backgrounds can barely do fuck all, especially compared to KDE Plasma which has options for everything.
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>>108164010
Even wlroots has options for everything when it comes to wallpapers with tools like wbg and swaybg.
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>>108164010
>Yes, this is wasteful.
how so? distros trying to support every use case is how you end up with a bloated mess. i doubt even 5% of users ever use anything but standard wallpapers.
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>>108163991
>extensions
If I have to tinker with extensions for basic features you already failed.
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>>108164057
>how so?
Because there are no tiling optimisations in image algorithms so when you need to make that full-sized image for your 4K or 5K or 8K monitor, etc, that's going to be insanely bloated.
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>>108164088
>>108164057
Also, just because few people use it doesn't mean you shouldn't include it for those that do. Even Microsoft Windows supports more options.
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/change-the-desktop-background-in-windows-4a33c533-b71e-447e-b021-a27df2678938
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>>108163664
have you tried clearing the icon cache with gtk-update-icon-cache?
>Is there a way to tell the system "only use my icon when it needs to be a certain size or above, otherwise fallback to the default Breeze icon"?
Well, from my own experience trying to create an icon theme, it seems that some places use prioritize .svg icons while other places use the .png icons, I think small icons like in context menus and such default to use .svg icons. Try to make your icon into a png and delete the svg icon, don't forget to update the cache too.
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>>108164109
microsoft removed moving the taskbar recently because they just couldn't be arsed. i doubt that's the example you really want to take here.
>>108164088
>oh no i have an extra 2mb file on my pc
are you serious?
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>>108164124
>>oh no i have an extra 2mb file on my pc
>are you serious?
It's wasteful. It may be 2 mb today but then you buy a new monitor and need to scale it again and suddenly it's 4 mb or 8 mb or 16 mb, etc. Is this lack of efficiency really why people choose GNOME?
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>>108164139
imagemagick can do easily, why should we bother to implement it ?
fyi GNOME will still cache your modified background, because processing your file once + storage beats the alternative.
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>>108163991
NTA but
>Tabs in document reader
>A dock/taskbar
>Nautiuls remembering list view/item view per folder
>Thumbnails for folders with images
>Better performance for folders with thousands of images
>Image viewer slideshow mode
>More precise cropping in the image viewer
>Move tweaks to the official settings
>Configurable screenshot naming pattern
>Screenshot windows without the decoration
There's more but that's it off the top of my head
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>>108158207
You have to meet other linux user and do a ritual penguin sacrifice.
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>>108164153
>fyi GNOME will still cache your modified background, because processing your file once + storage beats the alternative.
Yes, but the cache will be bigger than it needs to be. I understand you're arguing in favour of a more inefficient system, you need to stop that. There's no reason not to add the extra options. If it's that much of a maintenance burden then maybe it's time to give up the whole GNOME desktop thing and just let KDE have the crown.
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>>108164114
OpenBSD you fucking poser
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>>108162671
>i prefer 3 bars instead of 1
what?
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>>108158469
>>108158387
You can configure steam to install games to any drive location it has access to through the settings menu. I currently have mine set to put games on a secondary SSD.
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>>108164110
That command didn't anything for me, and I don't think cache is the issue because the icon in the menu changes instantly whenever I switch themes. And my icons are already .png.
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>>108163664
Also, if you want to use an icon only at certain size then you need to first put Inherits=breeze in your index.theme:
[Icon Theme]
...
Inherits=breeze
...

Then if you put whatever icon you want in your icon directory:
<icon-theme-directory>/32x32/apps/firefox/web-browser.png
It will then use that specific icon for that specific size (32x32) and fallback to Breeze otherwise, if you want for all sizes equal to or above that size well then you have to create each size yourself, so that will be 4 more icons for 48x48,64x64,128x128,256x256
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>>108164162
>Thumbnails for folders with images
this is one of those where you don't know what you're asking for. this requires peeking inside each folder to know whether the content has images, it will slow down everything.
>Move tweaks to the official settings
that ain't happening, if anything it's getting deprecated as it's unmaintained.

there's a couple of decent asks in here, feel free to open a pull request.
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>>108158657
I daily drive zsh on my main desktop, though most of my other machines are left on the default bash.
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>>108162786
i've just about forgotten you can move/resize a window from the title bar/edges
it's an important learning tool, but no experienced user moves/resizes a window from the title bar or edges
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>>108160600
I had a similar experience. It was a rough couple of months. But when I eventually learned the process, things just started working.
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>>108164057
>distros trying to support every use case is how you end up with a bloated mess
Except GNOME, which somehow manages to be a bloated mess without any implementing any usecases.
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>>108160934
gdm, Gnome's login screen manager, compared to sddm and plasma-login-manager (or whatever they call the re-written prettier one) for KDE.
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>>108157821
> https://gitlab.gnome.org/chergert/ptyxis
Why, oh, why do some modern terminals NOT have tab-completion?

Bazzite chooses this, and it's bizarre why they would, given tab for the terminal itself doesn't complete but does an entirely different function.
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>>108164212
My theme already inherits Breeze, without it most non-custom icons disappear.

My icons are nominally 96x96 for historic reasons as I started making them before I even switched to Linux or knew which size standards existed. So there is just one .png version that scales to all sizes. And from looking at how other people's themes are made, I figured that the names of the folders don't actually matter to the system, because some people use "48x48", others just "48", some organize their icons by sizes first and by contexts later ("48/apps"), others the other way round ("apps/48"). So my understanding is that you can name and organize your folders however you want, as long as each directory is properly listed and described in index.theme (hence you can see [actions/additional] in my original post). Am I wrong? As you can see I described the folder with that particular icon with MinSize=32 and MaxSize=256 expecting that for sizes smaller than 32 it would fallback to the Breeze icon, but that doesn't happen.
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>>108164217
>this is one of those where you don't know what you're asking for. this requires peeking inside each folder to know whether the content has images, it will slow down everything.
Dolphin and Windows Explorer can do it and still be faster than Nautilus
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>>108164464
Because they use threads and Nautilus is probably some single threaded piece of shit.
Needing to peak into the folder to generate thumbnails doesn't have to mean it slows everything down. You can do it as a separate thread / task like KIO workers do and then update the UI once it's finished.
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>>108163509
Is there a way in terminal to get it to go to the github page or to preview it before downloading?
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Is there a ricing guide somewhere I can draw inspiration from?
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>>108164506
There's also the extra lazy way, wait until the user browses the folder to generate the thumbnails
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>>108164358
>So my understanding is that you can name and organize your folders however you want, as long as each directory is properly listed and described in index.theme
Yes, that is correct.
>MinSize=32 and MaxSize=256 expecting that for sizes smaller than 32 it would fallback to the Breeze icon, but that doesn't happen.
That's not how it works, the MinSize and MaxSize determine the minimum and maximum size your Icon will scale to, if a program wants a 16x16 scalable icon then it will get 32x32 icon because that's your MinSize.

Icons can either be Fixed (.png) or Scalable (.svg), if you use a scalable icon, then it will be used in all places that use it, on the other hand you can specify different images for different sizes with png icons.
So instead of
[actions/additional]
Size=96
MinSize=32
MaxSize=256
Type=Scalable
Context=Actions

Remove that and write something like this
[actions/additional/32l]
Size=32
Type=Fixed
Context=Actions

[actions/additional/48]
Size=48
Type=Fixed
Context=Actions

[actions/additional/64]
Size=64
Type=Fixed
Context=Actions


...etc
Of course you would need to create the appropriate directories and create the appropriately sized icons. Yes it's annoying, I know.
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>>108164358
>>108164626
Also, for additional info
https://wiki.gnome.org/Attic/GnomeArt/Tutorials/IconThemes
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idk if i should post this in the winblows thread or here. anyways.

can i install linux in the "unallocated space" here or will be there some issue with it being sandwiched inbetween my windows install (C:) and the windows recovery partition?

i did a full disk image backup of the whole drive in case i accidentally nuke my system but would be nice to know in advance if i'm going full retard here or not
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>>108164634
I see no problem with it and I've done it myself. just make sure not to (re)format the EFI partition when installing Linux or you will not be able to boot into windows anymore
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Is there any value in a Void fork? I could see there being something useful about using a distro not based on Fedora/Arch/Debian.
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>>108164634
>can i install linux in the "unallocated space" here
Yeah, it doesn't really care. In fact my drive looks like that. You'll have to create a boot partition and, as convenience, I'd suggest you to set it towards the end of the drive so you can expand it by taking space from your c drive or contract it by taking space from your linux drive at will. Otherwise you get cockblocked by not having contiguous drives
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>>108164662
aight thanks.

another question out of curiosity - does doing a full disk image backup store the GPT as well? this might be a really dumb question, i dont know 100% what the GPT even is.

i guess my question is, is the GPT part of the normal disk space or is it seperate (and hence wont be restored even if i restore the disk image i saved)?

thanks chief
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I really like linux, but there just isn't any good linux distros and that makes me really sad :(
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Retard here, how do I set an app as the default text editor (ie .txt) and another as the default code editor (c-related files mostly) on plasma 6? I don't want vscodium to open for a plain text file
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>>108164709
There should be some setting called "choose preferred applications" or something like that, I haven't used KDE, but it should be there, otherwise if you're too retarded to find that option then you could always do it through the terminal like this:
xdg-mime default gedit.desktop text/plain

Replace gedit with whatever is the name of your text editor.
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>>108164707
Make your own distro, shrimple as.
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>>108164799
I actually have a life outside my computer, so I sold my soul to red hat and use fedora.
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>>108164830
So do you not like the corporate sweetened systemd+dbus+wayland+gnome+pipewire+flatpak stack?
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>>108164275
kek this
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>>108164830
lel im about to install FEDora cause of that. debian is a bit too dusty for my liking, arch doesnt even have a gui package manager, fedora just seems like a nice middle of the road option
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>>108164881
It's true, Fedora is the most "werks out of the box" distro after RHEL, of course the price is submitting yourself to the RedHat ecosystem
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>>108164896
wish we could go back to the days where ubantoo wasnt gay
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>>108164869
I don't care about basedstemd, I didn't care when i was using arch either. I don't care about wayland. I mostly like gnome although I find some things annoying like the aforementioned post complaining about not being able to use tiled backgrounds. flatpaks are fine for stuff like emulators and games and shit that doesn't have a system package. pipewire is works for the most part.
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>>108164896
>the price is submitting yourself to the RedHat ecosystem
The joke here is that most people use systemd and flatpak, then a decent bunch use dbus, pipeware, wayland and gnome, right.
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>>108164933
>not being able to use tiled backgrounds
i cant believe the gnomevelopers fuck up basic shit like that. their app design is actually really well thought out imo, but they're cutting too much basic functionality for no good reason.

let me have some fucking icons on my desktop goddamnit
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>>108164709
on the plasma settings theres a default applications menu with a text editor option. just tried it and it only changed text formats like .txt.
you can also right click a file, press "change" on "open with" and you can specify which app you want opening this type of file
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Kali, Parrot, or Backbox? Ive heard good things about each, but am leaning towards Parrot. Obviously for pentesting, not a daily driver.
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>>108164958
They're just pre-configured distros so pick whatever has the most tools you want to use for the job.
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>>108164768
There is but it seems that it only has an option for "text editor" and not specific extensions? The command worked though thanks.
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>>108163569
Well I had to do it myself.
Would have been a decent distro but it shows obvious signs of not knowing what the fuck they're doing, like putting everything behind fucking metapackages and their wiki being so basic they tell you how to enable snapshots hooked up to refind but you're left wondering how to even roll them back (and they're not read only)
Such a shame, they got font rendering right out of the box, unlike practically any other fucking distro I've used
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>>108164965
I understand this. Just wanted to know what anons thought the best was for generic uses.
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>>108160837
I honestly cannot really tell the difference in gaming or daily browser use watching videos on zorinOS. It really does just werk now and it looks good.

Also my wifi just werks as well as my printer, it all just werks.

>>108160880
I trust it more than microslop

>>108161855
IDK I just wiped my drive
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>>108164967
Search for file assosiations in the settings. It can be configured to an autistic degree
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>>108164933
>I don't care
See that is the problem, it's the same problem that made Ubuntu go to shit, people just tolerated it while Canonical was shitting on Ubuntu till it became intolerable after they added snaps.
Red Hat has of course been more successful than Canonical, but there's not telling how long this will last, they will do enshittify eventually and if they add some spyware like Canonical did then I wouldn't be surprised.

>>108164950
The joke is that once you're in you can't get out, and it's also not a joke.
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>>108164869
These are things only impotent control freaks care about. The Linux kernel is already bloat to the moon.
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I just installed fedora. On first boot, it wants me to set some stuff up (keyboard, language, time). Whenever the time zone selector comes up, my shit freezes immediately.Online people are saying you should "click the time zone instead of typing in your location" but I don't even get that option, it's completely stuck before the installer is fully done transitioning slides.

Apparently it has to do with the open source nvidia drivers. The bug has been around for over a fucking year. Bruh.

I'm sure there's some workaround but the whole reason I chose fedora was it's supposed to work out of the box. Guess I'm installing something else tomorrow.

> also somehow installing fedora messed up my system time on windows
baffling
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>>108157821
This pic just gave me flashbacks to Windows XP, does Linux have anything like picrel? I remember being really upset when I upgraded to Windows 7 to find out that it didn't have a dog in the file manger...
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>>108165117
>they will do enshittify eventually and if they add some spyware like Canonical did then I wouldn't be surprised.
I can see that happening in the not so distant future and if it does you bet I'll be switching over to some other distro, but until then let me enjoy the current peace i have.
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>>108165266
heres what that looks like btw
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I have KDE Bazzite on my laptop and it absolutely murders my battery. I like pretty much everything about it besides that.
Does anyone know any distros that don't burn up your whole laptop battery in less than 2 hours on power saving mode?
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Are SanDisk good for live USBs?
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>>108165277
Understandable, enjoy your distro while it still works.

What I'm really afraid of thogh is if Red Hat imbeds a spyware (or whatever, this is just an example) into some essential component like systemd or wayland, then this will not only affect Fedora and RHEL but 90% of other distros as well so even if you decide to distrohop your options would be severly limited if you want to escape the shackles of Red Hat. I just really hope I'm being a schizo and that will never actually happen.
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>>108165316
Use powertop to see what is taking so much power.
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>>108165391
powerbottom is better.
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>>108165266
>somehow installing fedora messed up my system time on windows
more like windows is being retarded about it
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>>108165374
I just got a sandisk oneflair ultra and it's good enough
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>>108165674
Also using an ultra, at least for now. Im going to try and run Parrot on it.
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>>108161017
>Don't worry about it. Resources are cheap.
Please walk out in front of a speeding truck.
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Anyone have a recommendation for a lightweight Linux distro? I just want to run it in VirtualBox so I can start familiarizing myself with using a command line.
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Why is gnome on arch worse than gnome on fedora?
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>>108165708
minimal debian install from net installer
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>>108165772
Thanks.
I was leaning towards this.
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>>108165307
>>108165266
>it's supposed to work out of the box
I'm >>108161022 have been using Linux for 20 years and have no idea how it got that reputation.
Each time I installed it, it just had so many weird bugs and misconfigurations that I stopped trying to use it after an hour.

Unfortunately, no good distros exist, they all have some catastrophic downside to them.
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>>108165772
Should I keep the Debian desktop environment and standard system utilities?



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