>"install linux anon, it comes with freedom">"no microsoft trash software anon it's soo good trust me">debian? nono it's "too old" only use new shiny fedora/zorin/mint/popos/cachy/nobara>looks inside>systemd-spywared dickbus dildoplugabble authenshitifiication modules boodevd pussysissy kit>lxqt is bad for the baby, anon, install usecase-DE or Kuck desktop environment>so much freedom now!!!what does linux evangelists mean by this?
Systemd (which is on Debian, thus defeating your argument) is not spyware, and LXQt is in fact bad because it lacks a superbar.
>>108178302>is not spywareyet, anondo you know it will ping google dns if you don't opt out?
It just works on my machine & I use Arch btw
>>108178332>It just works on my machinegnu/cattle
>>108178304Proof? That this is the implementation on Debian, Fedora, or other distributions?
>>108178281Install OpenBSD.
>>108178362it is a distro agnostic default config are you the nigger from yesterday that refused to read uni stack exchange
>>108178362not in devuan, devuan simply uses the pre-systemd implementation of networking that doesn't ping google nor any other company ran by friends and clients of jeffrey epstein
cattle like op are proof that linux trying to appeal to normies was a stupid mistake and we should have done more to gatekeep them out.fuck off and buy a mac cattle.
>>108178374>distro agnostic default configWhich part of the code actually executes a pinging command and what evidence do you have that distributions do not change this behaviour?
>>108178281https://www.tomshardware.com/news/linus-torvalds-responds-to-linux-banning-university-of-minnesotaYou're not wrong.
The jeets at microslop are afraid. >systemd is ACKshually spyware guys! It isn't. >yetIt never will be. But let's entertain this desperate nonsense. It could be ripped out and replaced. The end.
>>108178412systemd is financed by microslop and jeffrey epstein
>>108178412ok redhat. show some audits of 2 mln sloc in your pid 1, and those solved issues on github. I will wait.
>>108178281>debian? nono it's "too old" only use new shiny fedora/zorin/mint/popos/cachy/nobarathis is true though
it only falls back to compiled defaults if you literally delete your resolved.conf file or the DNS/FallbackDNS fields in that file AND your DNS hasn't automatically been set by DHCP.
>>108178460and you are ok with this niggerlicious shit? should make you think what more is lurking in the unaudited mess of an init system that now aspires to be systemd-linux
>>108178467>unauditedIt's been open source for what, 15 years now?
>>108178472do you... know the difference anon? you may want to use systemd-dictionaryd
>>108178476So you haven't audited it yet you are trying to make claims about what it does and doesn't do?
>>108178467because cloud admins are retarded and RHCSA cert jeets probably get stuck figuring out why their systems can ping but not internet.Any normie home PC/laptop will have DHCP defaulting DNS to the router (which hopefully has a non-google DNS set). Smart users will set resolved up with quad9 or some schizo DNS provider with DoT encryption or plug it into their own local DNS resolver.The only way you can fall for this is pure skill issue..
>>108178488>The only way you can fall for this is pure skill issue..It's a component of mainstream slop linux
yeah linux is evil dangerous hacker software.you should go buy a mac schizo retard.
https://github.com/systemd/systemd/blob/main/meson_options.txt#L378
>>108178525linux is kernel you midwit. rtfm before trying to roast OP
>>108178537buy a mac retardI hear MacOS is even le real american UNIX, not evil gay fake european communist Linux
>>108178281I prefer GNOME.
>>108178281rofl
>>108178281>Linus: "I'm banning Russians forever from contributing to Linux because Russians are evil and kill innocent people!" "also I hate China!">also Linus, when israel is mentioned: *crickets*It's pretty curious that the only alternative ever considered when discussing alternatives to big tech is completely controlled by one guy whose views are casually exactly the same as those of the CIA. Merely a coincidence, of course.
>>108178671Are they on this list?https://sanctionssearch.ofac.treas.gov
>>108178681linus was such a virgin he didn't get to be on the list
>>108178281You went too deep in this shit OP. Come back down to the surface.
>>108178302>>108178332>>108178362>>108178403>>108178412>When you make a thread on /g/ critical of systemd, asking about funtoo, calling out Distro moderators, or discussing Russian / Chinese manufactured CPUs>https://youtu.be/zGggQQczGYYEvery time, you flood out of the woodworks like luminescent clockwork cockroaches
you know you can uninstall systemd-resolved and put whatever dns server in your resolv.conf right? it's not mandatory.
>>108178735What doesn't flood out of the woodworks like luminescent clockwork cockroaches however is evidence. Funny that.
>>108178302*LXQt is in fact based. Superbars belong at Wendy's, not in a DE.
>>108178304Doesnt understand that if you're on alt distros and they do something you dont like you can just move away to a new distroBought a NAS, installing and setting up OSes takes less then an hour nowadays cause all the data I want to keep is on the NASI said goodbye to Microsoft after using it since I got my first pc 26 years ago cause of 1 thing I didnt like (copilot) and you're fucked in the head if you think I wont do it to a OS I've only used for a month
>>108179104>Doesnt understand that if you're on alt distros and they do something you dont like you can just move away to a new distroNewfag, 99% of mainstream distros are systemd today. Independent projects slowly dies out from maintainer's fatigue. Eg. consolekit2 Gentoo gave up, they emulate udev and logind, install book reccomends systemdick
>>108178281>>systemd-spywared dickbus dildoplugabble authenshitifiication modules boodevd pussysissy kitDevuanGentoo
>>108178372>Install OpenBSD.thisLook into microkernels - Genode - for exen more security. Genode+NOVA(hypervisor)+OpenBSD(in VM) sounds like a sweet solution.
>>108179795>Gentooalmost. elogind and eudev - still licking redhat boot
>>108178281Linux desktop experience being a dumpster fire for casuals is actually the best defense against enshittification. Once something goes mainstream for the casual masses, those casual masses start dictating the direction it goes. And we all know how humans behave at the group level.All we have to do is break wifi again for new install. Needing to plug in an ethernet cable to turn on wifi is the great filter.
>>108178281hyperbola.infohttps://wiki.hyperbola.info/doku.php?id=en:philosophy:incompatible_packages
>>108178281If you have an opinion on systemd, then you're not going to be asking for distro/de recommendations. The conversation you've made up in your head has never happened in real life.
>>108179803OpenBSD is already secure enough for 99% of threat models. I can see remaining 1% using something like this but how is it different than Qubes OS? I thought it was the golden standard.
>>108178467do you really think an average auditor knows tech? they literally just verify if you follow your documented procedures (and if you have them)audit is not a magic wand that makes the bad things go away
>>108180270conversation is a fictional representation of a conceptnormification of linuxit's like plato's dialogues midwit
>>108178281>linux evangelists mean by this?That means cattle follow the trends regardless of merit and nothing else besides being popular matters.
>>108185076GPL only benefit megacorporationsyou are retarded
>>108178412>>yet>It never will be. But let's entertain this desperate nonsense. It could be ripped out and replaced. The end.if systemd wanted to obviously not be spyware it would of been written in perl and run other daemons instead of just systemd-spywared
>>108185076Wow what a lesson. You really have to go copyleft or copyright all the way, and commit to it. There is no middle ground.
>>108178281It isn't the evangelists that say this, but the glowies that try to intercept normies migrating from windows and trap them with the backdoors they installed these last decades
>>108187311This anon gets it.
>>108178281>>debian? nono it's "too old" only use new shiny fedora/zorin/mint/popos/cachy/nobarafor server, which runs everything in docker - that's ok for desktop - biggest retardation ever seendevelopers update applications constantly, some add features weeklynormal OSes and less retarded distros use latest versionsDebian: naaah mate, gimme that outdated shit from 4 years backand you can expect next update in 3 to 5 year - if you're lucky
>>108188646use case for new weekly features? that's why debian is so stable
>>108178281Are you arguing that the enterprise server OS is the truly free one?Also why no mention of Arch? Surely if you watned something free from corporations you'd go with that. It's worst advocate if Valve, and they always end up as the lesser evil in any situation.
>>108190658>why no mention of Archone of first distros to swallow systemdick
