What's your favourite Matrix client? Mine is just Element in Chrome. People also seem to like Cinny since it has a nice looking UI. Element using Jitsi to stream video games in a conference call. I haven't adjusted the resolution yet. This is my preferred gaming server right now: https://app.element.io/#/room/#gaming:federated.nexusThe community feels really friendly. Most Matrix users are aware of the benefits of using open source software. https://matrix.org/
>>108178710I tested stoat and found it to be extremely gay.
>>108178710I like commet, it supports screensharing and custom emoji, and it looks the most like discord while supporting multiple accounts nicely so I can be on several homeservers and switch easily.
>>108178710https://github.com/Liteb0t/MediaboardGonna refactor http_session.cpp to use views and controller. Then I'll work on making hosting easier.Would a Docker or Podman container be better? Also there will be a FreeBSD jail since that's the preferred OS.
>>108178710I personally moved to stoat
>>108178767same
>>108178710real /g/ USERS write their own discord. pic related
>>108178767Can I share NSFW images on stoat? I'm worried because it's UK based they might require age verification even though I live in the USA
Is discord used outside of gayming / animu / gaylords circles?When I played fps online I used to be on discord but the quality of the average retard there was so low that I never admitted to using it in real lifeFor casual use it's hard to beat whatsapp / telegramEverything else is pretty much dead. Unless you happen to have a core group of nerdy friends, but matrix-like chats still look like unpolished turds with a core identity of "I'm not spying on you / selling you shit so you will tolerate this shit software"In general since growing up I find the idea of an always on idling chat pretty much retarded, interesting people are not found on a discord chat talking shit all day
>already palantir'd my id once>account set to adult mode>uh no sorry bud you gotta do it againactually fuck off
I’m just using Root.
>>108180398this look like shit
>discordFuck outta here zoom zoom.
>>108180767For now their approach to NSFW is "block all UKuck IPs from viewing any content marked as NSFW", since their servers are hosted there and they don't have selfhosted servers yet.
>>108183646>inb4 the tranny jannies are in there
>>108178710I'm just going to continue using discord because I don't fall for engagement baiting doomerism of regular goings on that are blown way out of proportion. thanks.
>>108184083Good goy. Serve your Orwellian masters.
>>108184035>they don't have selfhosted servers yet.I thought they did? I see they have some docker compose files for some sort of "self-hosted" stack.I haven't looked too deeply into it, is there some sort of catch with it?
>>108178710>>108178710The problem with every alternative right now is the fact that any one of them can be as enshittified as discord, and you will be right back here making the same shit-ass threads. Again. A good proper self host client in general is what is needed right now, not relying on a central system.
>>108184438that's the entire point of federation, anon
i have no friends and don't really play multiplayer games anymore. do i still need shitcord or one of its clones?
>>108185417>do I need communication software if I don't communicate?
>>108178710I like tincanapp.org it's pretty neat in the browser
I only use discord for bbc/hypno servers. What's a good alternative with video streaming? I tried element and it doesn't let you see previous posts so that's out...
telegram is the only proper answer
>>108178710>yet another judiasm infused shill thread for trash protocol created by amdocs, an israeli corporation with historical ties to mossadjewish spyware. go away, schlomo.
>>108184438it's far worse when the alternative (and only alternative)being shilled by OP the mossad agent is a piece of vulnerable shit created by an israeli corporation. it's the equivelent of using facebook messenger and then saying>it's totally cool guys! facebook's using encryption! just pretend it's not facebook! ;)OP would love everyone to not know who created matrix and who still gives them money
>telegram>can make my own invite only channel (server)>can add text channels within the server>can livestream within the channel to an unlimited number of audience>screenshare>server owner can post instagram style stories to the channel>all messages are autotranslated>people can boost the channel for benefits>can run giveaways automatically within the channel>search is infinitely better>better bot functionality >2gb/4gb file limit as opposed to 10mbwhy do people hate it again? because you have to sign up with a throwaway number?
>>108185500>just hand over your phone number, gullible faggotsneck yourself, vlad.
>>108185614>please use compromised russian slop and hand over your personal informationembarrassing>owner was arrested in france and force to comply with any police order from anywhere in the world>why do people hate it again?you can literally see your remaining iq point flickering between 0 and 1 like a binary counter. it's remarkable.
>ITT: Jewish compromised slop vs. Russian compromised slopthe absolute state of the jews and commies on this board: hated by all and mocked by the world.
>>108185650>says all this while treating discord as some bastion of privacy
>>108185614They ask you to reverify your phone number all the time. There's also a persistent notification about verifying birthday. Otherwise Telegram is great.
>>108185673Telegram isn't for streaming games.
>>108185673>They ask you to reverify your phone number all the timeAre you talking about the "Is your number still active?" thing if you go into settings? If you click yes, it doesnt do anything the message just disappears, I have no idea what happens if you click no.As for the birthday thing it doesn't ask to verify your birthday, you don't even need to add it in the first place
>>108185683Streaming games is a hobby for losers.
>>108185683Why not?
>>108185699for one that is going to have very high latencyalso >other apps
>>108185664>the retarded jew or commie truly believes that people are pro-discord>on /g/i'd rather send smoke signals than use discord, jewish slop or some trash that russian pedophiles created that has a backdoor for the russian government. get back into oven, schlomo.
>>108185707A bad gamer blames his tools. Well, gamers are bad.
>>108185707>talking about streaming games>doesnt have obsok, so hit the screen share button and select your screen of choice (the game)
>>108185735>ignores the latency>suggests using cinematic 5 fps built in screen sharingyou are not a serious person
>>108185754>pays for nitro, doesnt stream his gameplay to youtubeyou are not a serious person
>>108178710some irc clienti didn't understand why irc fell out of use
>>108185417>do i still need shitcord or one of its clonesFuck no, I play an undisclosed MMO atm and even then I hardly use it, Ive been invited to some Discords but I always reject. absolutely 0 issues with playing, only reason youll need one is if they hoard strict info in one even then it eventually gets leaked to other places.
>>108183140you in the UK? Honestly if they're just gonna keep asking you to reverify I'd rather juse use a game character or a fake id, or whatever explot people use to bypass this bullshit
>>108185643You akready did that with discord...
>>108186514asstralia
>>108185643isn't that some one phone number only thing? I'd use a burner, but it feels like I'd end up siging into someone else's account instead.
>>108186530how did you verifiy the first time? Game photo I hope?
>>108186518No I didn't.
>>108183140You think their dumbasses would at least have the common decency to auto verify any account a certain amount of years old...But we apparently are all still sperm in ballsacks as far as they care.But yeah, I'd rather risk getting banned than comply with this bullshit
>>108186770>I'd rather risk getting bannedJust leave?Staying on the CIA run tranny child grooming platform is still compliance.It's so pathetic.Why do you just HAVE to use the malware made by people who hate you and want you dead.
I would love to see an agreed on alternative. No really.Stop shitting on each other and fucking sort it out
Does Element support nice high quality, low-latency, screen sharing on voice-chats?I'm dying to leave Discord behind.
>>108187251Yes. It has Jitsi conference calling built in for that.
>>108187251Matrix is shit. See >>108151608
>>108187303There is no reason to encrypt a public chat lol.
>>108187432>there is no reason to use encryptionIf I wanted to use a messaging platform which spies on me I'd go back to Facebook Messenger.
>>108187269Is it good for streaming videogames with good quality at at least 1080p@60fps?Can I configure the stream quality?>>108187303The post you linked points out that they use Signal and Telegram, which I highly doubt have a fraction of the features of Matrix and Discord.Isn't the problem about the decoding messages fixed long ago anyway?
>>108187470Are you retarded?Do you think it is a security issue that i can read that post, that you just wrote on public available 4chan?You idiots need to stop being dishonest liars.
>>108187527You read the post over https. Do you really need the difference between and use cases of message and transport encryption explained to you?
>>108187527>publicWe're talking about private chats here, retard. You're the one who moved goalposts to public chatting.
>Everyone I know is moving to Fluxor>https://fluxer.app/
>>108181065Many of the FOSS projects I use coordinate their development through discord.
It seems there is a lot of anti matrix shills here. Many of them can't even form proper argument against it and just act overly emotional.Curious... Time to setup synapse and element again
>>108185577do you also not use VP9 since it was made by google?
>>108187736>criticism = anti shilling
>>108187791>criticism>108184438>108185577>108185595>108185660>108185664>108187303>108187470etc
>>108187513>The post you linked points out that they use Signal and TelegramOkay then use Jami. Or better yet, use Mumble for VoIP and Signal for messaging. You don't need everything in a single app.>>108187834Uh huh, so what's exactly wrong with the last 2 posts you've quoted? (Yes that's me)Broken encryption means it's unusable for private chats and group chats. And if all you'll ever use are public unencrypted chats then it literally doesn't matter which service you use.
We have around 10 days before this shit show happens.
>>108187599wtf has this to do with transport encryption?Matrix requires https, but nobody would use this as an argument when talking about encryption of rooms and E2EE.It's all so dishonest and low iq./g/ nowadays is full with baboons spaming shit that sounds good in their head, no matter if its relevant to anything.
>>108178710>>108178767>>108179006>Matrix is gonna become the next "Discord" to replace "Skype"no its not. it's unuseable dog piss
>>108188002what encryption is broken?
>>108188348The Signal encryption.Signal relies on a centralized server to map you to the correct user. So if that server simply gives you a different person, any encryption is bypassed and pointless. You are now E2EE with the other end being the NSA.
>>108188002>And if all you'll ever use are public unencrypted chats then it literally doesn't matter which service you use.Of course it matters.Saying that XiJinping is shit on WeeChat will go different than saying it on Twitter.
>>108188358you would be alerted of their pubkey changing. It's literally why you're told to verify each other's identities in person.
>>108188417no you wouldn't, because you would never know the actual pubkey in the first place>you are told to verifyYou aren't. Matrix forces you to do this. Signal doesn't and is fundamentally broken.No amount of E2EE can help you, if you rely on a centralized server to map a fucking phone number.
>>108183646This looks bad, but if you think about it, it makes sense the type of degens who revolve their life around porn and erp would be the first to migrate away from discord.
>>108188449https://support.signal.org/hc/en-us/articles/360007060632-What-is-a-safety-number-and-why-do-I-see-that-it-changedwhat's with this sudden Signal FUD from matrix shills? Matrix does it the same way, and I was not forced to verify there either. If you didn't verify each other's safety numbers then you clearly don't care about E2EE.
>>108188488maybe they know who you are?
>>108188348Using encryption on Matrix. Read the reply chain. Whatever they're doing to handle encrypted messages is dysfunctional.
>>108188488Matrix even has an option to never allow any encrypted chat with people who you didn't verify, and even if you choose to chat with unverified ones, they get a nice symbol next to their name telling you.Just how GPG forces you to trust keys of people who you communicate with, but a bit more strict.Signal has none of that. Signal syncs you phone contact by phone number and YOU have to go out of your way to compare keys.But what if you don't know about that?Then you surely would have loved someone to tell you, before you get your Signal chats leaked by a random person being in your group who you don't remember you ever invited. Which is why it is important to let everyone know that Signal is broken per default....or just follow your gut and do what every reasonable being this:>If something requires your phone number, treat it as insecure.I dont know a single service that disproves this rule.btw. your OpSec is astrociously bad, dear child grooming furry.A guy, who gets himself doxxed on every occasion, giving others (deliberate?) shit advised to do as bad as he does... is interesting.
>>108180398What llm was this vibe coded with?
>>108188547>btw. your OpSec is astrociously bad, dear child grooming furry.>A guy, who gets himself doxxed on every occasion, giving others (deliberate?) shit advised to do as bad as he does... is interesting.what did she mean by this?
>>108188547>Matrix even has an option to never allow any encrypted chat with people who you didn't verifyFair, it would be a nice feature to enforce, but I only talk to people I trust and always verify on first contact. If their safety number changed, I will be notified.>Signal has none of that.Are you ignoring the big "Verified" mark next to the contact's name that is visible at all times?>But what if you don't know about that?So you don't understand how your tool works. I make sure to tell everyone I add this simple fact and we always verify.> by a random person being in your group who you don't remember you ever invited.you blame the tool for your poor opsec?>>If something requires your phone number, treat it as insecure.What does this have to do with phone numbers now?>btw. your OpSec is astrociously bad, dear child grooming furry.you seem to be awfully confident for someone who is completely off the mark.
>>108188002>You don't need everything in a single app.I understand, but in this case it is convenient to have everything in the same app because of online presence.
>>108188634>but I only talk to people I trust and always verify on first contactYou are the only Signal user on the whole world who personally always compares the keys. Or you are lying.The whole phone number mapping bullshit should not exist, BECAUSE YOU CAN'T TRUST IT ANYWAY.If you verify everyone in person, like you say you do, WHAT DO YOU NEED THE PHONE NUMBER FOR?If you are already in person, just exchange the keys.>it would be a nice featureit's a must-have. Without it, you dont have E2EE. Pgp introduced strict requirements of trust decades ago, it used to be the default.If you want to use gpg without it, you have to lie to it and the software tells you that if you lie, and set trust to a key you don't know who it belongs to, you are on your own and broke your E2EE.Can you show me Signal marking unverified accounts you didnt approve of?Can you show me the option in Signal to never send anything to anyone who you didn't specifically verify?Can you show me the option in Signal to not upload your phone number?Signal is inherently insecure. By design. The design choice is to map keys to phone numbers on a centralized server.If you specifically don't use this signal design... then why don't you just gpg encrypt discord messages? Wouldn't that be more secure? At least in theory you can have a discord account without your phone number being known to them.
i'm just gonna keep using discord until my friends hop boat and follow them theredo not care about nsfwalready run this shit through third party
>>108188002>Uh huh, so what's exactly wrong with the last 2 posts you've quoted? (Yes that's me)Claiming that matrix spies on your without providing evidence.
>>108188547>btw. your OpSec is astrociously bad, dear child grooming furry.>A guy, who gets himself doxxed on every occasion, giving others (deliberate?) shit advised to do as bad as he does... is interesting.Wtf is with all the schizos in this thread. Is like someone really really doesn't want people to migrate.
>>108189332Messages not being encrypted literally means the server owner can look at every message you send at any time. The whole point of end to end encryption is to prevent this from even being a possibility.
Now the fools seek to return to the past and undo the future that is Discord.
Why is no one talking about fluxer?
>>108189248>You are the only Signal user on the whole world who personally always compares the keys. Thanks, I guess it takes a lot to understand the tools you use. You only have to manually compare during initial verification.>The whole phone number mapping bullshit should not existLegacy reasons (they started as an SMS app) + "spam prevention". IF someone steals your phone number somehow, they still need your recovery password (PIN) to decrypt past messages, and their contacts will he notified if someone else takes over. Also, they periodically ask you for your PIN to prevent registrations from new devices, unless you manually authorize it.>it's a must-have. Without it, you dont have E2EE.Again, once you verify each other, it's E2EE, and that guarantee is held until it alerts you the keys have changed. The channel is secure.>Can you show me Signal marking unverified accounts you didnt approve of?What do you mean?>Can you show me the option in Signal to never send anything to anyone who you didn't specifically verify?I believe I made myself clear when I said it would be a nice addition, but you're too angry to read my posts without throwing a hissy fit.>Can you show me the option in Signal to not upload your phone number?I never claimed you could, but it allows you to hide it for a username.>Signal is inherently insecure. By design. The design choice is to map keys to phone numbers on a centralized server.What is "insecure" to you? Its security model provides E2EE which alerts you of any potential MITM attacks.
>>108183646oh no no no I guess you better stop using this site, look what communities exist here.>>108189582Maybe because it's not finished and usable yet?
>>108188002>You don't need everything in a single appThis right here is the mindset that will never lead to a successful "Discord successor". No one NEEDS everything in one app. But that's what people WANT. It's convenient. It's simple. People are lazy. People are stupid. Most people don't even own a computer. They want an all-in-one, fire and forget solution. The vast majority of people are not going to replace Discord with an app that has less features unless Discord does something that outright prevents them from using it. An proper Discord successor has to actually BE BETTER than Discord. If it was just enough to only have a fraction of it's features for something to surpass it, people would have moved on to stuff like matrix and stoat a long time ago.
>>108183140yeah, I got that as wellhaven't reverified, but why the fuck can't they just accept it once?bunch of fucking kikes
>>108187470You have no idea who the other chatroom members are so it's not secure even if it's encrypted.
>>108187513>Is it good for streaming videogames with good quality at at least 1080p@60fps?>Can I configure the stream quality?Idk. That's something you can google you Zoomer asshole. Why are you asking to be spoonfed? You have all of the keywords you need.
>>108187631You started an encrypted chat with a bunch of randoms for no reason. Encrypted chat with known participants works fine. If you cram >100 randoms into an encrypted chat then you'll have issues with unverified users.
>>108184438>A good proper self host client in general is what is needed right now, not relying on a central system.how about a decentral network on your favorite troon language Rust >https://voce.chat/>https://noted.lol/vocechat/>license? self-hosted? only 20 users. ?
Just use Habbo Hotel.
whatever happened to i2p?
>>108189493>Messages not being encrypted literally means the server owner can look at every message you send at any time.Literally doesn't matter if it's a public community or your own server.
>>108191408that includes direct messages
>>108191367the network barely holds itself together
>>108189582I've seen some chatter about it. It seems to be in an extremely early state right now. Has a shiny UI but that's about it.
>>108178710>Mumblehttps://www.mumble.info/about/>Nextcloud Talkhttps://nextcloud.com/talk/
>>108184035Anything owned or operated or hosted from the UK should be counted out.It's entirely possible they even ban Twitter soon.
>>108178710im using cinny. i like it so far.my buddy told me about matrix so we went over. and we are enjoying it. i understand this won't be super normie retard friendly, but setup wasn't too bad at all. im also interested in the IRC stuff too. any good irc channels out there so i can try it?mild wants off jump. i just want better embeds for links, and some custom emotes.
Can someone tell me why exactly they named this app "Cinny"?*looks down to how close the U and the I button are on the keyboard*
>>108191567Mumble doesn't have chat history and has no text only channels anyway.Teamspeak is proprietary.Nextcloud talk seems more like zoom than discord.
>>108191924Oh... They used to make it look like cinnamon colored.
>>108187690Any catch to this?
>>108191341>rustnever ever
Someone's review of different alternatives: https://wiki.alopex.li/DitchingDiscordXMPP bros... we're so back
>>108193182>anime waifu girl loading graphicDon't give a fuck about their review
Is IRC active nowadays? Been thinking of giving it a go.Also is a VPN recommended for it?
>>108191285>>108191314>>108191408Are you three fucking retarded? I'm chatting with my friends who I have in my contacts, not some random strangers in a publicly accessible group / chat room.And no, I'm not going to host my own server just for a chat room when we can use an alternative that isn't dogshit.
>>108193182XMPP is a mess of a million standards and every client supports a different subset. Like there are at least three completely different XEPs about encryption.I first tried XMPP 15 years ago and regularly check it out again, and there wasn't any noteworthy improvement ever.
you're not getting people to use your app unless you get the egirls to stay on it
troon discord mods need to move their discord servers and projects to wtv other platform if we want people to actually ditch discord.no normie is gonna switch to matrix because these people dont even what palantir is, they dont care about privacy. moving their fav servers to another platform would make these people move with them too.its kinda dumb to even start thinking of ditching discord when most people probably wont do it.>>108185614i like telegram and i wish more people used it, they started putting ads in channels now tho which is kinda annoying but oh well.telegram is a free speech platform, but its not private, like, at all. afaik they dont even encrypt text messages unless its one of those "secret chats".whatsapp is better in terms of privacy than telegram lmaoalso i dont think that lots of people would be ok with linking a phone number to their profile.>>108187690>"Check our Bluesky (@fluxer.app) for status updates."bluesky, lmao.
>>108194648>telegram is a free speech platformThat's a red flag
>>108191567>an specific
>>108194182>And no, I'm not going to host my own server just for a chat room when we can use an alternative that isn't dogshit.Such as?>inb4 proprietary teamspeak
>>108194728Why? I like not getting my account banned for whatever shit the AI thought I was saying, or a server getting suspended and my account going down with it.
>>108195419It naturally attracts cancer.
>>108195533>>108194728Godbless the anons like you that are always fighting to enforce technological dystopias.
