>>108178981
You're a retard if you think that steam forces deva to use DRM and they wouldn't use DRM if steam wasn't a thing
Some games have their own fucking launchers and account systems in steam So you launch the game on steam which launches the game launcher where you login to the publisher's account system so that you can launch the actual fucking game

Technology was a mistake.

>>108178981
>DRM
>DRM, Gaben

>>108179093
so, since steam isn't drm, how can i unlink a steam game from my account so i can give it to a friend?
dumb valvenigger cuck

>>108179125
Steam provides a DRM option, which some devs use, some devs employ their own DRM instead/in addition, and some devs don't use at all. If the game has no DRM, you can just copy and paste the files regardless of whether they originated from steam or not, there are plenty of DRM free games on steam.
You are literally complaining about something you don't understand

>>108179125
If the dev chose to not use DRM in the game you can just copy & paste the game install and give it to your friend. If the dev added DRM, then you cannot because the dev doesn't want to let you do that. Steam offers a kind-of compromise in this case, you can do the account sharing thing it has and your friend will at least be able to play when you're not using your account.

>>108179143
>valvenigger DRM cuck cant read
shocker

>>108179143
>>108179155
so, since steam isn't drm, how can i unlink a steam game from my account so i can give it to a friend to link to their account and have full functionality including updates and multiplayer?
dumb valvenigger cuck

>>108179199
You asked how you can give a game you bought on steam to your friend. I answered that question in its entirety: If the game's developer does not employ ANY DRM, whether that's Steam's or another type, then you can simply copy and paste the files. The only one who can't read here is you

>>forced DRM down your throat
https://www.pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/The_big_list_of_DRM-free_games_on_Steam (not exhaustive list=

>>108179207
>I answered that question in its entirety:
>>108179125
>how can i unlink a steam game from my account

>valvenigger DRM cuck cant read
shocker

>>108179208
>a whole 200 indie garbage games that no one would even pirate out of 200,000 games on steamDRM store
valveniggers are truly grasping

>>108178981
OH NO NO NO NO, gaymers keep taking L after L after L, the dilation ratio is through the roof

>>108178981
Hi Tim
Another day ending in Y for you I see?

>>108179221
That's not a DRM issue, that's a resale issue. "Trading" a game without DRM would still be technically illegal, and a game with DRM could be resold just fine if the account provider chose to allow it. You are using the wrong terminology then you're calling people illiterate for not answering the question you thought you were asking

>>108179205
You are confusing license restrictions with DRM.
Name a site where you can do what you described.

>>108179226
Don't hurt your back moving all the goal posts.

>>108179228
Tim's Epic Games Store locks you out of most games the moment your internet connection goes away.

>>108179231
>NOOOOOOO YOU CANT LE HECKIN DO THAT ITS ILLLLLLLLLEEEEEEEEEGAAAAAAALLLLL AND BAD FOR GAY BEN'S JEWGOLDSSSS OH GOD REAM MY ASS HARDER GAY BEN
Valvecuck DRM bootlickers everyone.

>>108179251
I didn't say any of these things, who's the one who can't read?

>>108179245
You misspelled Steaming DRM store valvecuck. >>108179226
99.9999% of your DRM store games are unplayable every time Gay Ben trips over his own fat rolls and rips out the ethernet from the DRM servers.

>>108178981
invented locking you into an account and making you not own anything
invented lootboxes and started peddling gambling to children
only ever made one game that they never finished (everything else was just buying out other companies to finish their games under his name)
gaben is a piece of shit but valvecucks want to eat his ass out. literally a cult

>>108179125
how do I unlink a game from my gog account

>>108179125
You don't have a friend.

>>108179125
You literally just copy files in your file browser in any non drm game and send it to your friend.

>>108179326
But you don't have a friend. Why are you using this tired talking point when it doesn't even apply to you? You're obviously so lonely that you have to post the same nonsense over and over again. Maybe try to actually find a friend?

>>108178981
I want GabeN to force himself down my throat.

>>108179125
So here's the instructions
Step 1: Take the folder of your DRM free game.
Step 2: Put it on an USB flash drive
Step 3: Give USB flash drive to your friend.

I tested it, works. I'm also the friend I gave it to, I have 2 Steam accounts.

>>108179326
see >>108179226

>>108179408
>of your DRM free game.
lol
lmao even >>108179226

>>108179435
Nice goal post moving. Now the games that are DRM free aren't good enough, only games with DRM are good.

If you can't resell it, you don't own it.
Simple as.

>>108179428
Don't see why I should care?

>>108178981
gaymers b gay for gaben, MOAR news @ 11

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>>108179093
The game is on steam, it’s only in steam. There is no alternative way to download said game without steam. Everything goes back to steam requiring you to sign away your legal rights. Stop with the lies.

>>108179207
That’s pirated content you idiot, that’s against steam user agreement. There is no way to give games away without breaking this rule.

>>108178981
On paper I'm outraged but it's so trivial to crack it's just there for compliance, similar to YouTube and most other streaming sites not using widevine. And Windows and Office I guess. I don't really care about check boxes or licenses or EULAs as long as the software runs.

>>108179093
They didn't use such restrictive DRMs before Steam.
Valve is pioneer in the area, it's a historical fact and your gaslighting won't change that.

>>108179523
>The game is on steam, it’s only in steam. There is no alternative way to download said game without steam.
That sounds like the devs' fault, not Steam's.

>>108179561
DRMs before Steam were very restrictive. You needed to have the literal CD in the drive. Even if the game was 100% installed on HDD, you still needed the CD in the drive.
Some of the DRMs the CDs deployed were pretty much malware tier. Steam is pretty bad too, but back in 2006 or so when Steam was still relevant as frontier DRM, I'd take it over StarForce or Securom any day.

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>>108179093
The CD for Half Life 1 requires you to enter the code. They are not the good guys that you thought they were, they never were the good guys.

>>108179093
Found the go online to go offline retard.

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>>108179580
>current stage: 3

>>108178981
Rothschild thread

>>108179942
ugliest sons of inbred fucks i've ever seen

>>108179096
if every DRM was as uninstructive as Steam (single check on startup) then we wouldn't have massive performance impact and root level malware like what is considered normal today

>>108179956
if valveniggers didn't guzzle cum for breakfast every morning, we would have GoG be the standard and have 99% DRM free PC gaming instead of 0.00000001% DRM free PC gaming like we do now

>>108179995
why didn't they start their business back in 2007 when their model is such a better solution?

>>108179995
this, i never got into Steam and don't buy there. If it's not on GOG I won't get it.

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>>108180200

>>108180200
>>108180373
that form of GOG only started to manifest in 2013. it took em that long to convince dead software to be released DRM free (and also updated for modern hardware; something that Steam doesn't really offer afaik)

>>108178981
>Be Steamie
>Read disclaimer
>Fuck off from Steam forever
Steam may be "nice" now but when Gabe dies it's going straight to hell. I know nothing of his sons and I can't trust them to not see the dollar signs and go public. When Steam goes public it's ogre.

>>108179093
>Some games have their own fucking launchers and account systems in steam So you launch the game on steam which launches the game launcher where you login to the publisher's account system
Valve are niggers for allowing this.

>>108181668
Steam was DRM hell from day 1. Gay Ben has never seen anything but dollar signs.

>Gabe invents the weakest, easiest to subvert DRM ever
>somehow convinced entire Industry to use it (aside from a small number of AAA)
Thanks Gaben!

Steam made drm acceptable and I hate them for this reason. It's like selling your soul to the devil, one day or another you'll have to pay the price.

I know Steam is a privacy, ownership and security nightmare. I support Valve because of Gabe Newell's high impact sexual magnetism, not because they're good for the business.

>>108178981
what's with the delusional belief that things would be better if it wasn't valve?
everything valve did would've been done worse by someone else and it would've happened whether you want it or not
look at games for windows live for the non steam benchmark, that's what you'd get
at least steam has paper thin drm and is pushing for the ecosystem to improve with their linux work and investment

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>>108178981
oh hey haven't seen you in a while

>>108178981
nice try moron. GabeN saved pc gaming from dying since publishers were constantly pushing "PC IS DEAD". Fuck off and die.

>>108178981
I simply cannot tell you how mad I was. I had like 512 MB of ram. Pentium 4 1.7 Ghz quite literally minimum specs.
And this steam thing came along and hoged like 50~100 MB and the fucking Half Life 2 had a recommended requirement of 512 MB.
And I also had a ATI Radeon 9000 PRO so the game barely ran really.

Fucking hell. It took me until 2007 to actually install steam because I wanted to play CS Source. When I got a new PC.

>Crucifying the Combine soldiers with the crossbow because they would randomly de-aggro in the shitty Steam-downloaded version.

People forget how bad and hated Steam was in the beginning.

>>108179143
it's this dude's main shizo fascination. you can't have a thread on anything vaguely related to steam/valve/newell without him shitting it up with angry longposts. it's pretty fuckng all so tiresome.

back in the day you used to need the game manual or something like that to get past the games copy protection. i don't know what this nigger is complaining about, apparently just pirating shit is becoming too hard or something? i don't care.

>>108179263
and typically once he gets proven wrong he just degenerates into schizo greentext and ad hominen. i assume this is his main form of social contact with the outside world.

>>108178981
As opposed to?

>>108184385
the world where you sing kumbaya, everyone decides to not kill physical and some worse entity doesn't replace the power vacuum

>>108184385
Forcing cock down your throat.

>>108181883
It’s because of him we can’t pirate all games. This is a war crime in gaming.

>>108184236
eat shit and die DRM cuck

>>108178981
/v/ will defend the fat kike to death, and even though they have committed a lot of sins, it is true that steam provides advanced service in terms of:

- instant messaging
- sharing
- mod downloads
- user forums
- ultrahigh speed download CDN for games
- ultrawide game selection
- one-click experience
- running games on linux with Proton
- Steam VR
- Steam Deck

It seems primitive and asinine that apparently having this small degree of support is considered luxurious, but the fact that they're able to secure all this means that they're at least competent enough to warrant your business.

Again, I know they have a lot of sins in their past, but their level of service, in practice, is really good and is worth of all levels of commendment.

>>108184885
Game created denuvo?

>>108178981
The issue with Steam is that no matter what they do they always come out as the lesser evil.
If they do one thing bad, it's either quickly followed by something even worse by every other company, or was already proceeded by it.

>>108186366
>fat kike hands written post

>>108178981
>Gabe BTFOs the Rothjews
>instant Steam seething threads on multiple boards
Stay mad kikes!

>>108178981
who the fuck cares about this fat, sweaty retard
just pirate hl2 and move on with your life.

>>108178981
too many /v/niggers on /g/, no wonder it's absolute trash

>>108187036
Gay Ben is literally the Rothjews you dumb kikelover.

man, that Rothschild lawsuit really made the glowie mald this time.
I've already seen multiple threads on /v/ and /g/ from melties like OP

>>108179324
LOL

>itt EGS sponsored trolls that pretend gaben invented drm in 2004

>>108178981
Don't consoles have to be connected to the internet to work, too?

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>DRM

>>108187773
underage B&

>>108187773
works on my machine

>>108187760
Why are they like this?

>>108188803
80% of the console market is digital, so DRM too.

>>108187760
>>108188847
steam literally invented account locking DRM valvenigger

>>108188803
consolefags are so retarded lmao

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Keep seething Rothschild

>>108179096
It's so weird how gamers view Steam as the DRM free option while most Linux people view it as the DRM option (and stuff UbiSoft etc does just isn't available to us at all.)

I quit buying video games for nearly a decade after the first game I bought that demanded Steam and couldn't update over my slow internet connection. I didn't start buying them again until I realized GOG sells newer indie games.

Of course now GOG wants to be more like Steam so I might go back to just playing old/open source games.

>>108178981
Hey Timmy, you're supposed to be posting on /v/, not here you dumb fucking retard.

>>108188976
>>108188863
Hey Gay Ben, get some exercise you fat kike.

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>>108186366
>ThEirSeViCeiSgoOD
No it’s not, they literally hate refunds and Australia made them offer it. Valve fought the government to their Supreme Court. It’s now a landmark case that USA has to offer refunds to Australia.

Valve fought in France to prevent online digital trading.

Valve committed EU GEO price locks to scam customers in Europe.

Valve paid a casino to shut up about their gambling business in their games.

Valve user agreement says it uses FAGMAN to help them. They sell your gaming experience and information to the companies you hate.

Stop with the lies.

>>108179581
a CD key doesn't require any connection or account. you just need to type in a valid combination, like 0000-00000-0003

>>108190809
niether does going the fuck outside.

>>108188803
This bait is fucking delicious.

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>>108178981
he's too powerful, can he even be stopped ?

The holders of copyright also own nothing. Data cannot really be owned even if these criminals of the sect of law say otherwise.

>>108179093
>You're a retard if you think that steam forces deva to use DRM
steam literally forces devs to use their DRM

can only run one app from your library at a time

Half life is the most overrated game to ever exist

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>>108193886
>Gay Ben desperately and pathetically trying to win back valvedrones with $3 shovelware trash giveaways while Tim Epic gave me a 400 game catalog of AAA titles
Epic is the same trash as Steam, but they weren't the ones that invented account DRM. I feel less bad giving shekels to them considering the free library I've got now paid for by fortnite zoomers.
Meanwhile the only games on my Steam account is HL2 from my retail copy that fatass forced me to authenticate over 56k just to play the campaign.

Steam DRM is so weak it might as well not exist. They have allowed it to stay this way for a very long time. Complaining about it is like complaining about getting a papercut without remembering how in the same situation people used to get stabbed all the time. Things were not better before. You just imagine they were because you either did not live through these times or you were not paying enough attention. Let me refresh your memory.

https://youtu.be/p-wyIalhdPU
https://youtu.be/u8ltfyqD3lM

Besides all the problems this bullshit caused for people when these games were new think about how much trouble this causes for people who want to play old games on new machines. What's going to be easier ten years from now, using a steam emulator like Goldberg or hunting down cracks for the cumbersome cancerous shit they used to slap on games? It's so bad that there are instances of game studios selling old scene cracks so their games run in the versions on steam and such.

Don't mistake this for Valve glazing. Just remember it can be worse. The past proves it. The present is a fucking cakewalk in comparison. You have nostalgia for a golden age that never existed in the first place.

>>108194734
If it may as well not exist, why is it 99.99% of Steam games can't be just copied to a USB drive and given to a friend?

>>108179125
Tell your poorfag friend to get a job and buy his own damn games.

>>108194748
They can if you make the simple modification of adding Goldberg which is universal. Unlike old times where if you wanted to give one of your games to a friend you would need to hunt a no-CD crack from that specific game from gamecopyworld.com, or use fancy expensive proprietary software like clonecd to make a perfect CD-R copy.

>>108194734
>Things were not better before.
Spoken like a true underage Valvenigger.
I used to copy my Starcraft CD and wrote a .txt with the serial on it to give to friends so we could all play LAN. We all did this for years until that fat kike dreamed up his DRM scheme to kill PC LAN gaming completely.
It was absolutely 100% better before Gay Ben took a steaming shit on PC gaming.

>>108194757
So Starcraft was that weak but not every game was. Hence the need for cracks in the first place. Just because you were a poorfag and only owned one game doesn't mean that was the experience with all games.

I think you guys are just too fucking retarded to know how to copy a dll file lmao.

This whole thread is PEBKAC. A bunch of boomers screaming about solved problems. You are old. You don't even play games anymore. You just want to complain.

>>108178981
Gab' shit down my throat yummyyummers

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>>108178981
>DRM

The social media aspect of Steam has created lock-in and undying cult like loyalty. So much so that gamerfags will screech and cry if they need to use a different launcher to play a game, even if that game is given to them for free. I have not purchased a PC game since 1997. Since I only pirate my view on things comes from that position. Complaining about Valve for DRM is stupid. Their DRM is as weak as those TSA locks on luggage that can be opened with a master key you can buy on eBay. Except the key is free on github. You just put the DLL in the folder and you're off to the races. Just as easy as any crack you would use in previous decades except it's universal. That's the last thing I'm going to complain about.

>>108179093
>You're a retard if you think that steam forces deva to use DRM and they wouldn't use DRM if steam wasn't a thing
This.

>>108194764
>noooooooooo le heckin 0.001% of DRM out there at the time was WORSE than Steamingshit, that's why STEAMINGSHIT IS SO GOOD
valveniggers subhumans need to be rounded up and lynched

>>108194868
Steam itself is literally DRM and 99% of games on Steam will not run without it you dumb nigger. Not surprising that Valvetards don't even understand what DRM is.

>>108194871
Calm down with the memespeak. It doesn't make you sound any more authoritative. Starcraft puts you in a very specific age bracket and you post like a child who is getting groomed on Roblox when he isn't laughing at soijak memes on the sharty.

It wasn't just 0.001% of games that had something more complicated than a serial check going on. It was most major games. Who cares about shovelware? If you were a normalfag you could not simply copy game CDs in most cases without specialized software. If you were not a normalfag you knew where to get scene releases. Hence why I said I haven't purchased a PC game since 1997. Having an internet connection means you don't need to do that.

>>108191920
It does not. Tons of games on Steam are literally DRM free and many use DRM other than Steam DRM.
On games without DRM, Steam only functions as a method of download. After you've downloaded the game, you can back it up however you please.

>>108194884
The only relationship I have to Valve is a 100% parasitic one because I only pirate games. Complaining about the situation, one that is very much beneficial to me, would be stupid. If I could copy a cracked exe to a game's folder in Program Files in 2001 as a literal child then you as an adult (you need to be 18+ to post on this website) can figure out how to copy a DLL so a game you purchased works without the Steam launcher. No excuses. If you refuse to except that stop your crying, pissing, and pointless moaning and do what I do. Pay $0 and pirate it. Enjoy the game for free.

>>108194949
>If you refuse to except that
Should say accept that. Oh well sometimes the retardation of the people I'm replying to rubs off on me. Maybe I'll start aggressively niggering everyone in the thread next lmao.

>>108194908
>a whole heckin 300 shovelware indie shit is DRM free on steam out of 300,000 titles t-t-take th-that!
valveniggers are literally subhuman, unworthy of breathing the same air as human beings

>>108194969
They subsidize what we do so we can't hate their mindless consumerism too much. Even if we watch them accept worse treatment all the time. Paying higher prices for worse things.

>had like 50 games on steam around 2012
>had always shared my old games with my little cousin my entire life
>he asks if i have any games i'm not playing one summer when they were visiting
>they all use this steam shit now but you can just log in with my account to download and play them
>playing some CS 1.6
>you've been kicked off because cousin signed in on another computer
That's the last year I've ever given a penny to that fat bastard gaben.

>>108194963
Strange way of coping. Nobody who seethes as much as you about simply getting a fact incorrect would be classified as a human.

>>108178981
>Be VaLVE
>Make Steam
>Produce banger games.
>Buy then produce one of the most famous and biggest FPS games ever made.
>Implement skins cuz fatty needs 15th Yacht.
>That face when skins make more profit then 1000 games together.
>Fatty's yacht already docked.
>Game in shambles, cheater shots trough the smokes and kill everybody 0 ban but when you flick insta ban since slop AI anti-cheat.
>Players cry constantly about how broken game is.
>Fatty enjoy's yacht and don't give a shit about his own games.

He truly won.

>>108195010
Now they introduced family group where people can play different games at the same time. I always share my games with family and they play some shit from my vast library of games without disturbing me.

>>108195041
>won
>so fat he needs s dedicated team of doctors following him around 24/7 for when he overexerts himself from taking 2 steps

>>108195042
>finally eases his ironfist DRM grip after 2 fucking decades of shitting on PC gaming
>haha th-they so gud to us gamers eh?
valveniggers are literally subhuman, unworthy of breathing the same air as human beings

>>108178981
>Microsoft deletes secdrv.sys
>Physical copy of The Sims 3 ceases to function
Awful either way desu

>>108195050
They used to have family plan for a long time now. Previously it was bit of a shit be abuse only one person could play at the time.
>Things get better with time
Terrible isn't it? It's better to suck on EA dick, company that makes everything worse every year.

>pirate everything
>have 400 game library on epic
>even multiplayer games
>never gave a penny to epic
>never gave a penny to gay ben
>uninstalled steam since it's useless shit
>play everything for free
it's that shrimple

>>108178981
How am I supposed to quit Steam when I've spent 2000+ dollars on it over the years?

>>108195068
This is the valve shill playbook. Accuse you of being an EA/Ubisoft/Epic dicksucker.

Valve hires shills to keep people from realizing it's a complete monopoly.

You simply cannot release a game for PC giving a cut to Steam, and expect it to succeed. Textbook Monopoly.

>>108195045
yeah even those two are too much.

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>>108195041
Yeah and the creator of CS is a pedophile.

zoomoids don't remember the different CD copy protection methods that eventually could be emulated by daemon tools. or when you had to use a code wheel or look up words on a page of the game manual.

>>108195182
You can take any company other than valve.
>But physical media
Securom/starforce only allowed installation on 3 devices and later versions didn't allow simultaneous uses.
It's almost like drm was the way industry moved for a long long time.
Side loading it all to valve is stupid when Sony is daddy of all drm.

>>108195271
DRM isn't even the problem, it's the fact that you're forced to give 30% of your profits to the fatman in order to sell a game on PC.

>>108195368
Why do you care?

>>108195041
based as fuck, fuck gaymers in their neet ahssoles

>>108195379
Oh I dunno, maybe because Valve parasites off the entire industry, making it less healthy as a whole.

We're talking tens of billions of dollars that are siphoned away from the developers and put into gabe's yacht company.

This is exactly why leftists hate all billionaires, this kind of behavior, where you produce nothing and take all the money. It's vampirism.

>>108195397
They can always just publish themselves or on another platform.
But no, they refuse to do that because Steam ultimately makes developers the most money despite their fees.

Of course not a single soul sees the issue on console, it's only Steam that is the problem despite being not forced to use them to publish on PC.
Arguments about Steam falls flat from the PC/Windows platform being open.

Publish your shit elsewhere if you want to make a statement.

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>>108195397
That's how stores work. Greenmangaming also take % of sales. Do you think hosting, renting and up keeping servers is free or something?

>>108194777
No the problem is Steam requires you to have an account to download said game. There is no actual way to download it without an account. On the old days we used to just download it without account required.

>>108195453
>Steam ultimately makes developers the most money despite their fees.
This is only because gamercattle are so brainwashed that they will literally boycott games that aren't on Steam, while simultaneously say that Steam does not have a monopoly.

>>108194814
>IamOkSignINgwaYmYRiGhts
Stupid American people, you can’t download games without Steam accounts and games are being online only is increasing. You will be left behind, you will lose access to the features games provided. You allowed this to happen. You supported them.

>>108196208
>BUY FROM ME YOU RETARDED RACIST ANTISEMITIC GOY! REEEEEEEEE MONOPOLY

>>108195485
>>108195453
Yeah okay, Valve shill, you completely dodged the point. The developers "choose" to put their game on Steam because otherwise people wouldn't buy it. Why? Because there's a classic monopoly.

Hosting costs are literally nothing today. I can go find a 100 random sites to go upload 50gb. It's not 2008 anymore.

Valve at one point was the most profitable company in America per-employee. That's beating out the Finance Jews, the Crypto schemes, and all the Gambling sectors.

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>>108195456
VADE RETRO, GFWL!

>>108178981
I've seen what the other niggerfags had in store for us, I still remember GFWL being such a piece of shit cracking games was the way to go if you wanted to enjoy your vidyas in peace.

>>108196239
just because you've set up a website doesn't mean people will trust you when your motives are obvious
you need to make a game people actually want to play to pull them away

>>108196239
>Why? Because there's a classic monopoly.
No one is forced to use steam, they choose it
Valve isn't putting a gun to people's head to buy from steam, Valve isn't locking your PC down or kicking you out should you install games from another source.

It's not a monopoly when people have choice yet still choose the company with the vast majority of market share.

>>108196179
>There is no actual way to download it without an account.
Torrents, https://cs.rin.ru etc

>>108196213
You didn't even read my post lmao. I don't use steam. Better the devil you know. If you have an objection do what I do. Pirate everything. Don't buy unless it's on gog. Even then a lot of this slop you shouldn't bother spending your hard earned money on.

>>108196275
Actually the entire Wolfgaming lawsuit is because Valve Corporation is doing illegal contracts that don’t allow developers to upload games elsewhere.

The entire document court papers: https://www.classaction.org/media/wolfire-games-llc-et-al-v-valve-corporation.pdf

The news: https://lawstreetmedia.com/news/tech/full-steam-ahead-valve-corp-sued-for-antitrust-violations-tying-video-games-to-steam-store/

So yes they are under investigation for crimes against gamers.

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>>108196276
How did they manage to download games from Steam without an account? Stupid. Everything goes back to required account creation.

>>108195453
30% on consoles makes sense because it's custom secure hardware that is 100% pirate-proof and cheat-proof. You also get 24/7 developer hotline support, SDKs, and free marketing in the product catalogs.

>>108196275
Google was ruled a monopoly, it's only a matter of time Valve-shill. The 30% cut will not last. Gambling Lootbox NFT's will not last. People are getting sick and tired of all the vampirism. In order for the gaming industry to be great again, good people need to be rewarded for their efforts, and lazy people need to GTFO.

>>108196321
10. Steam Key Price Parity Provision. Valve nominally allows game publishers to
make some limited third-party sales of Steam-enabled games through its “Steam Keys” program. Steam Keys are alphanumeric codes that can be submitted to the Steam Gaming Platform by
gamers to access a digital copy of the purchased game within the Steam Gaming Platform, even
when the game is not purchased through the Steam Store. Steam Keys can be sold by rival
distributors including the Humble Store, Amazon, GameStop, and Green Man Gaming.

>11. But Valve has rigged the Steam Keys program so that it serves as a tool to maintain
Valve’s dominance. Among other things, Valve imposes a price parity rule (the “Steam Key Price Parity Provision”) on anyone wanting to sell Steam Keys through an alternative distributor. Put
explicitly by Valve, “We want to avoid a situation where customers get a worse offer on the Steam
store.”3 But that is equivalent to preventing gamers from obtaining a better offer from a
competing distributor. The effect of this rule is to stifle price competition.


they're literally seething about not being able to bypass steam's cut while using their services

>>108196223
Typical gamercattle response.

>>108196359
No the contract says you the developer cannot upload or share anywhere else to customers with discounts lower than Valve Corporation. This is illegal anon.

>>108196383
typical commie response
if you can't compete with steam and think that the rapport it's built up with its customers means nothing then you don't deserve their custom

>>108196335
Who cares?

>>108195271
>noooooooooo le heckin 0.001% of DRM out there at the time was WORSE than Steamingshit, that's why STEAMINGSHIT IS SO GOOD
valveniggers subhumans need to be rounded up and lynched

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>>108196275
meanwhile in the real world

>>108178981
steam also set the insanely greedy 30% cut of sales long before apple even invented the app store. this motherfucker isn't your friend. we would have amazing games if those millions had gone to devs instead of his fleet of ships. try telling a gamer this, they worship this guy like the retards they are

>>108196401
That's not how it was at all, zoomer. But spam 1000 more memes and make more /v/ tier posts. You sound like fucking dumbass.

Lmao let me imitate you

Ahhhhhhhhh le heckin cringeola nigger steam gaybin STEAMINGSHIT VULVA nigger nigger 0001% nigger chungus

>>108178981
Ahh refreshing thread mostly away from the Valve cucks the rest of the internet are.

Now to rag on Valve: VALVE GIVE US BACK CS:GO YOU FUCKING CUNTS. MILLIONS OF US DIDN'T PAY FOR IT TO TURN INTO A KEK BETA APP ON CS2'S STOLEN LIBRARY ENTRY.

>>108196386
no, it says you don't get to freeload the steam infrastructure by selling entry to steam versions outside of steam

>>108179125
so, since physical media isn't DRM, how can I unlink my game from a genuine disc and give it to a friend

>>108196401
>0.001%
100% of console drm is worse than steam
all physical drm would be worse than steam had it survived to current day

>>108196386
You can price games however you want on other platforms.
You just cant sell STEAM keys cheaper or point out where they are cheaper.

You can tell OP is literally fuming mad when you read his posts. He's animated when he types these. My favorite are the posts written in the exact same style agreeing with himself. Even better are the ones when he's violently angry. He thinks a video game sales platform is serious fucking business.

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>>108196439
seethe valvenigger

>>108196441
video games make more than all other forms of entertainment combined but go off king

>>108196450
Who cares? Stop buying them.

>>108196448
securom's limited activations beg to differ
also console drm is way more restrictive
it has to be that specific hardware, can't be modded, its files can't be accessed in any way and disc always has to be in

>>108196459
see >>108196448

>>108196456
ignoring a problem won't make it go away, especially when its a monopoly controlled by a billionaire

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>>108196409
posting on /v/ should ban you from /g/ for a week at minimum

>>108196448
>>108196462
Sell your games as physical discs then.
Valve is not stopping you.

>>108196428
>>108196386
The only reason this exists is so Valve can legally say that they don't price control.

However, it's limited to 5000 keys, and to get more than that, you need to get manually approved by someone at Valve(Good luck).

>>108196462
>doesn't even address the post
you're fucking fuming lmao
just because you have a piece of plastic doesn't mean you're not being limited by drm

>>108196466
Don't like it? Don't buy it. You can't force the world to think like you do. You can just pointlessly spill your autistic rage over nothing into 4chan threads. This is not the defining issue of our time. It's dumb manchildren doing what dumb manchildren do. Spending money on things that have no inherent value. You're just as much of a dumb manchild.

>>108196478
see >>108196448

>>108196483
thanks for affirming you don't actually have a way to dispute what i said

>>108196475
no? it exists so that you can't just freeload off them
it's fucking obvious to anyone with two braincells to rub together

>>108196483
Buckbroken.

>>108178981
Why do you think people care about DRM? Paying customers care that the shit they spend money on works as they expect. Do I care I don't technically own any of the hundreds of games in my Steam library? No I don't. I care that when I want to install any of the games I have on Steam they saturate my gigabit connection, apply patches automatically to games and everything just works so that I can just click play when I want to play a game.

I'm old enough to remember the time before Steam. I don't want to go back to that.

>>108196508
thanks for affirming you don't actually have a way to dispute what i said
see >>108196448

>>108196548
kike hands wrote this post

>>108196561
but i did
being able to transfer your licence doesn't mean your licence isn't made worse by other things, and physical has a fuckload of those other things

>>108196548
Keep in mind that if the whole world goes to shit and you can't rely on the Steam API to do it's job for whatever reason most of those games can still be played. All you need is the Goldberg emulator. If you really have hundreds of them then backing them all up probably isn't a cost effective option. This has become the reality of PC gaming. But you should consider it for the things you do want to keep. WW3 could break out tomorrow and the whole internet could be shut off for "safety" reasons. You'd be pretty fucking bored when it came down to that.

>>108196548
I'm old enough to remember the time before Steam. Your steaming shit DRM store literally never works.

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>>108196397
The court finds, wolfire and two other customers of caring.

>>108196440
Again it’s illegal, there is no other method that Valve allows for cheaper services.

>>108196602
Irrelevant. I'd be more interested in hearing how many have custom DRM on top of the toothless Steam DRM.

>>108196572
Working hands wrote the posts. People with jobs have a limited amount of free time. They want to spend that free time enjoying things, not fixing stuff while trying to enjoy things. And Steam just works.

>>108196585
I literally can't remember when is the last time Steam had any issues for me. But it was 10+ years ago.

I still remember a time when you could buy multiplayer games on eBay that came with the CD key.
Theoretically, the seller could keep using the CD key themselves, but it was a different time back then.
Valveniggers weren't even born then and have never tasted freedom in their entire lives, so of course they pretend that was never possible and that being born with Gay Ben's cock up their ass is the natural state of PC gaming.

>be steam
>against censorship, pro-user, rejecting giving an inch to journalists
>wins lawsuit
>suddenly there's anti-steam posts in 4chan

>>108196579
You can’t save ONLINE ONLY gamed anon, stop defending their lies. This means no CSGO, no DOTA, no Greymod, etc. stop lying.

>>108196633
>you can't have online only games when the internet dies
you want a nobel prize for that discovery?

>>108196633
I have never played an online only game in my life. I have never bought one. I am not interested in multiplayer. If you are then that's your problem.

>>108196623
>try to reuse CD key for mutiplayer
>CD key is banned because of mutiple reuses

>>108196653
That's so much better than Steam. The permanence of physical media was not at all stained by DRM (lmao)

>>108196646
Then don’t claim things like “just use emulation bro” when you know it doesn’t work for every game.

>>108196669
>steam is at fault for the entire internet going down in an apocalypse scenario
actual valve derangement syndrome

>>108196669
Let's go back to my post, >>108196579 since you seem to have a problem comprehending what you read. I highly suspect this is because you are very emotional right now and are trying to write angry responses as fast as you can.

>most of those games can still be played
>most of
>most

>>108178981
I get all my shit off dodi/fitgirl/gog-games so I don't give a shit, imagine paying for gayms after already paying out the ass for a GayPU.

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>>108196632
>>be steam
>>pro censorship, anti-user, floods internet with fake pro-DRM """""""journalism""""""""
fixed for reality

>>108196653
>let your little brother play one game on your account
>he calls some sjw a tranny and gets your entire account banned and lose all 1000 of your games
obviously so much better
dumb valvenigger

>>108196695
That's what you get for teaching your little brother to be an annoying chud like you lmao

>>108196688
>company constantly attacked by lawyers from big corpo and journalists is suddenly the villain now
I do hope you are paid or ill-intentioned, this level of contrarianism is pretty dumb

>>108196680
Anon, you still claim that emulation will solve the problem which itself doesn’t. 80% of games required Steam login, telemetry to the server, DRM like denuvo make emulation not possible and corporate using their money to sue the emulation team is why your dumb idea is never going to work.

Here’s a video showing how wrong you are: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXArovLJ60A

>>108196695
can you make it even more evident you don't know what you're talking about and are just blindly seething?
point to one instance of this happening

>>108196780
I would bet money that OP just saw some youtube short praising steam and entered in contrarian mode

>be me
>get fallout 4 on release day
>physical PC "copy"
>It's a single DVD with not even 1/3 of the assets
>steam key inside

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>>108178981
>if you don't buy physical you own nothing
>buy physical disk
>3 installs permitted
>changed computer? Buy another box!

Nah thanks. Steam has been working for me for 15 years and playing games has never been this comfy. I can
>play on Linux
>stream to my TV via steam link
>play hot seat games online via play together
>it provides its own networking layer that won't get shut down when the developer quits
>have access to hundreds of games without wasting shelf space
>buy games for much cheaper without going through physical retailer
>easily setup dedicated servers using steam CLI
Thanks, but I'm sticking with Steam

>>108196695
You can call other people whatever the fuck you want in Valve games and you won't be banned. At worst you lose your ability to communicate with others temporarily. No one has ever lost their Steam account for calling someone a name.

If your "little brother" got you banned in some game for calling people names it's not Valve who banned you.

>>108196695
Why are you making shit up? Community ban does not take away access to your games.

Anti steam shills are so desperate they have to came up with fictional stories to justify their choices.

>>108196845
Also I've forgotten:
>DRM is so trivial and non-invasive that you can crack 99% of games simply by drag and dropping universal steam crack/emu and it even let's you play online

>>108196632
Rothschilds are really upset that Gaben BTFOs them in court for their jewish tactics.

>>108196845
No you can’t play Linux games, only Steam games in Linux not outside. You also can’t play games on Linux that have DRM, so no Sonic Frontiers or anything AAA. Waiting on release since Linux doesn’t support those games.

Any software can stream on TV, you can do it with cheap HDMI cable to the TV you lazy idiot.

Co-Op died because of Valve and here you are celebrating corporate online gaming. There was a better way to play with others than online multiplayer.

No it doesn’t, Artifacts players remember. Game is now unplayable because Valve themselves shut it down.

Literally why the lawsuit exists, read the comments anon.

No it’s not easy you lier.

>>108196898
Why did you not read: >>108196778

Reminder that OP is a consolefag and should be ignored.

>>108196845
see >>108196401

>>108196946
>>108196927
>so defeated he's not even trying to argue

>>108196963
>makes bullshit claim >>108196401
>gets BTFO by facts >>108196401
>claims victory
sasuga valveniggers

buying on steam feels like paying protection money to a cartel. what if they at some point close shop

>>108196995
>facts
securom wasn't as rare as you're trying to pretend it was, zoomer
and it was more restrictive and harder to crack than steam too
if you let physical drm evolve to the current day it would be absolutely unbearable

>>108196865
If you buy a banned CD key from a 0 feedback seller with no history then you're retarded.
None of the keys I bought on eBay ever got banned or used by the original owner again.
But keep slurping Gay Ben's kike cum valvedrone.

Connecting to the internet one time is better than going to the shop one time for nerds though.

>>108179125 Goldberg.

>>108197024
>if you let physical drm evolve to the current day it would be absolutely unbearable
Retards don't know about hardware USB keys just to use certain software.
Steam is nothing compared to the kikery afoot with CAD/production software.

>>108197154
>>108197150
>the last bastion of cope for the valvenigger is boogeymanning about even worse DRM that affected 0.001% of games while pretending GoG doesn't exist which is infinitely better than their child casino DRM store

>>108197154
Is it really a surprise to you that 100% of the people complaining about Valve/Steam have never had a job?

>>108197190
>it didn't happen and it was rare!
where have i heard it before
keep coping
valve is winning so they set the rules of engagement and their rule is drm so weak it's gone by copying a single sub 1mb file because its purpose is steam integration
not much wiggle room for improvement there

>>108196179
Can you name a single modern storefront that lets you download games you paid for without an account

>>108197233
Humblebundle used to let you, but then valvekikes infested their site and now everything is steam keys only.

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>if you don't like steam you can pirate
>but then you're not supporting the dev
>imagine if the devs sold the game on their site for crypto
>the download an official torrent
>but can't people share the torrent?
>yeah but most vidya is trivial to pirate so it doesn't matter
>the ultra controversial (illegal) vidya can have their site on tor and accept monero, making purchases secret
>but what about steams discoverability?
>turns out it's a meme and devs do all sorts of shit like shilling their game but making dev diaries on YT shorts and shit
>but nobody will le bother if it's not on le steam
There is no publishing platform problem. There is no payment processor problem. It's just that you the gamer do not deserve a solution because your complaints are empty whining.

>>108195456
my only experience with that is finding a way to avoid it when setting up gta4 for my friends' kid, because i couldn't get the game to run... it was a legitimate copy.

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>never gave a cent to gay ben
>never gave a cent to any DRM garbage
>buy only GoG and CDPR games and pirate everything else

imagine being a rothschild and get owned by santa claus

>>108197577
imagine literally worshipping a fat kike

>>108196778
>80% of games required Steam login
Not true. If it was true piracy would be pretty much dead. Do you understand how piracy of Steam sourced games (the most common source for pirated games) works? No cracking done. Just slap the emulator on it and call it a day. Easy enough to do it yourself but if you download a pirated copy it's already included.
>DRM like denuvo
On a select number of titles. This is a real problem. Steamworks is a nothingburger.

>>108197599
Nobody buys the "be full contrarian abandon everything and leave things for us" anymore

>>108197577
No Gay Ben, you are the Rothschild.

did the lawsuit loss was that huge of a blow to them so they come to 4chan to cry about it?

>>108196778
>corporate using their money to sue the emulation team
I feel like I should address this as well. Steamworks has not been updated in any meaningful way for many years. The emulator I mentioned, Goldberg, is basically abandonware at this point. It hasn't been developed for a very long time. But it still works. So imagine Valve decided they had enough of people's shit (doubt it) and did takedowns of all the Goldberg repos. It wouldn't matter much. There's the community on cs.rin.ru which discusses those things, good luck getting the shit taken down in Russia. They could help people with getting Goldberg or RUNE's emulator, but really anybody who has pirated games probably has so many duplicate copies of the emulators on their drives. It would be impossible to take it out of circulation. All they could do is make tougher DRM, then when that gets cracked make tougher DRM again, then when that gets cracked make tougher DRM again... But they aren't doing that. If they do this conversation changes.

>>108179125
You're completely, hopelessly retarded. I find myself coming here less and less by the week because of people like you

>>108197709
Loud minority, don't take people like him as consensus

>>108197709
>>108197737
>valvenigger cant cope with facts
>resorts to samefagging
just sad

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>>108197709
>be valvenigger DRM cuck
>calling anyone else retarded

>>108197746
you talking about yourself? people shat all over you and you either refuse to acknowledge it or call them niggers
because you know the truth isn't on your side and all you can do about it is blindly seethe

>>108197709
>>108197737
>>108197746
>>108197758
>>108197761
one (1) guy

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>>108197772
Schizo

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>>108197761
you talking about yourself? people shat all over you and you either refuse to acknowledge it or call them niggers
because you know the truth isn't on your side and all you can do about it is blindly seethe

>>108197772
yeah, you're just one guy and projecting it onto others
no one is backing your retardation, you're fighting your mental illness induced war alone

>>108197772
>>108197787
still the same faggot

>>108197782
Truly sad how even console peasants care more about their rights than valve cucks. Literal subhumans.

Notice the "I need to fit in" type of vocabulary, "I'm more 4channer for using a lot of buzzwords"

>>108197798
???
they never had ownership rights to begin with

>>108197807
Lmao yeah. To be fair he does fit the profile of the typical /v/ poster. I'm bipolar and I've been off my meds for like 2 days now because I ran out of money to buy him yet I managed to stay calm and rational throughout the course of this thread. The dude comes off like a total spaz.

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>>108196919
>No you can’t play Linux games, only Steam games in Linux not outside
???

>You also can’t play games on Linux that have DRM, so no Sonic Frontiers or anything AAA.
Why would I play AAA?

>Any software can stream on TV, you can do it with cheap HDMI cable to the TV you lazy idiot.
My TV is over 10m from my PC. Also how will I pass controller input through HDMI?

>Co-Op died because of Valve and here you are celebrating corporate online gaming. There was a better way to play with others than online multiplayer.
I literally just beat Hyper Light Drifter with a friend using Steam play together feature. It's a game that only supports local, same-PC coop.

>Literally why the lawsuit exists, read the comments anon.
The lawsuit exist because Rothschilds are fucking patent trolling jews and it's a good thing that Valve won. They should won more money though.

>No it’s not easy you lier.
Why are YOU lying?

>>108197808
Physical media doesn't care about your bullshit EULAs that are not legally enforceable.
When their rights were threatened they rebelled hard while valve cucks bent over and begged for it even harder.
Console niglets are more worthy of respect than valve cuck untermensch, let that sink in.

>>108197821
The timing matches valve winning a lawsuit against a rotschild or something, so he's probably annoyed at all the youtube shorts praising valve

>>108196927
Because I replied to OP.

>>108196946
Ok, I will take a look at this post.

>>108197837
you having a piece of plastic doesn't matter when you're using it on a functionally limited console that heavily limits the game with its drm

total /v/ermin death

>>108197844
It's always the YouTube videos that brings out the screeching contrarians. I'm such a free thinker that I FUCKING HATE the popular thing that everyone loves. No I'm not going to offer a well thought out critique of it. Yes I am going to say nigger nigger nigger thinking that's going to make people think I'm cool and agree with me as I repeatedly insult them.

>>108197848
And yet that heavily limited console still has infinitely more rights than sub human cucks like you.

>>108197874
can it copy games? can it play things outside of sony/nintendo's jurisdiction? can you install another os on it without restrictions?
no
you agreed to a restrictive drm but it doesn't matter because you have the right to relinquish ownership of games so you can buy crack with the money
you have more rights if you ignore all the rights you don't have because you're too stupid to need them

>>108197892
>mod console
>plays original games
>backs up original games
>can mod games
>still retain full ownership and control of physical copies
Cope harder DRM cuck.

>>108197868
Yeah like that clippy story
Sure the rossman guy won't save everything by people changing their pfps but one contrarian was absurdly angry at it, like clippy people are the worst, clippy people are delusional, clippy people here and there

I think some are grifters like
>world is becoming slightly better
>NO NO THIS CANT HAPPEN ITS A LIE HOW AM I GOING TO COMPLAIN ABOUT THINGS TO FEEL SUPERIOR NOW

>>108197917
>mod console
>loses half the functionality
>current gen consoles can't be modded

by that same logic cracking steam games is completely legitimate
and easier
and those games are still way more functional since console game modding is way less viable

>>108197892
I've been arguing about Steam and PC gaming culture throughout this thread. I have a confession to make. I'm actually a console gamer. But I'm a console pirate. I started with softmodding my xbox. Then I flashed xbox 360 DVD drives. I was even involved in leaking multiple AAA games but that's another story.

My pragmatic view about Steam DRM is heavily influenced by my experiences with consoles. A DRM that only needs to be bypassed once, a crack that becomes universal, is better for both piracy and fair use back ups than all these competing technologies that are opaque and become obsolete.

I also view PC gaming culture as consumerist retardation where people pay insane amounts of money chasing FPS with the actual quality of gameplay coming second in their minds. I don't care about graphics that much. I just want to play some fun games. My Nintendo Switch with a modchip in it works for that. I don't need to buy an expensive ass GPU.

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>>108197917
You can commit piracy on PC too
In which case DRM doesn't matter
You just nuked your own argument

>>108197935
Game preservation ultimately ends up at the PC.
Consoles are not healthier if the ultimate goal is to play forever.
I dont often play the games on the console itself If I can avoid it just to not wear the devices I have.

>>108198022
all the current gen consoles literally can't be preserved too
the switch and switch 2's flash cartridges will slowly die
the ps5's ssd will die too and since it's soldered you need to replace everything

>>108198022
Older consoles are better. For example I love my PS Vita but I have struggled to find batteries for it. Actually replacing the battery requires disassembling the console. Even though I managed to do it myself I did not enjoy the process. I'm lucky enough to live in a country where I can just take consoles into a shop to be worked on so I won't be opening up any future consoles when they need repairs. That Vita was enough experience for me.

On the other hand my Super Famicom? That thing works like a fuckin' champ. No complaints there.

>>108198038
>the switch flash cartridges will slowly die
This isn't a big deal because they've all been dumped. No-Intro already has private dats. For Switch 2 let's see what happens if it ever gets hacked.

>>108198066
i meant playing physically, on the console
you can obviously emulate and play it hacked and digital, but the native hardware experience will just die

>>108197941
You can commit piracy on consoles too
In which case DRM doesn't matter
You just nuked your own argument

>>108198092
Well if we know the files we are playing on our hacked console have exact checksums for what is on the cartridge or the e-shop then we can say that's the native experience. The effort needs to go into making sure we have 1:1 copies of everything.

>>108198111
run me through the process of pirating on a current gen console vs cracking a steam game

>>108198050
>For example I love my PS Vita but I have struggled to find batteries for it.
It's just a li-ion battery. They're literally all the same. Find a good quality RC battery with the right measurements and cut the wires and splice them to the new battery, done.

>>108198111
Well it does matter, there is DRM that needs to be defeated. How hard it is to defeat that DRM depends on how new the console is. I think sadly no xbox since the 360 has been hacked which kinda fucks up any chance at future preservation efforts for those consoles.

>>108198135
there's nothing to preserve since the x86 console era since exclusives dont exist

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>>108197935
>I also view PC gaming culture as consumerist retardation where people pay insane amounts of money chasing FPS with the actual quality of gameplay coming second in their minds.
Sounds like you're understanding of PC gaming culture ends at kids buying new call of duty each year. Have you forgotten just how big Humble Bundle was? Steam sales?
Most of my steam games costed me 0.1$-0.5$ per hour.

>I don't care about graphics that much. I just want to play some fun games.
That's why indie scene exists.

>>108198156
>Have you forgotten just how big Humble Bundle was?
Another DRM-free option killed off by valvekikes.

>>108198194
There are DRM free items in humble bundle. It's up to developers not Valve to decide if they want DRM or not.

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this confuses and enrages the valvecuck
https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/59859024/348/1/wolfire-games-llc-v-valve-corporation/

>>108198348
>NOOOOOOOO YOU CANT JUST HECKIN REVEAL OUR FAT KIKE'S JEWISH TRICKS LIKE THAT
>HOW DARE DEVELOPERS WANT TO KEEP MONEY THAT THEY EARNED AND REINVEST IN MORE GAMES OR CONTENT INSTEAD OF PAYING US 30% TRIBUTE

>>108198348
no, it's pretty simple
no one is making you sell things on steam, plenty of games found success without it
you're not entitled to steam's customers

>>108197205
I literally make more money by freelance than “actual job” git gud noob.

>>108198156
>posting 3000 hours garry's mod and bragging about it
you wasted your life, old man

>>108197233
Itchio literally doesn’t require an account, the email link you get can allow you to redownload the game. Also something better itchio offers is the developer choice of how much the company (itchio) gets paid. See how stupid a billion dollar company can’t achieve the same results as a single company without billions in revenue.

>>108197613
>Emulator will work guys trust me bro
>Yes the DRM problem and online games will not work even if you have emulator but trust me bros
>No don’t worry about gameplay accounts that certain games need to work or offer features, emulator bros
Just stop making a fool of yourself, it’s not happening.

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>>108198543
And that doesn't even count time I spent playing pirated version.
These thousands of hours spent using Expression2, Starfall, Lua and developing custom external tools gave me such a headstart in my programming career no boot camp or training would ever come close. Best spent 10$ of my life.

>>108197825
>Zoomer doesn’t read
HDMI cables are the viewing sharing option in every computer.

>Zoomer plays Steam game made for Steam
Did you know it was originally released in Linux you dumb MF

>Hyper Light Drifter offers coop
That’s a game feature from the Developer you idiot. You can do the exact same thing in Nintendo, Epic, Playstation and others.

>Proving Zoomers don’t read
The lawsuit is currently about wolfire v Valve. Read more books.

Not even worth reading this thread, I know the valvedrone influence is so centralizing on this website that everyone will be defending them ITT and drm is ok when valve does it. I could fill out a bingo card.

>>108198662
you have to be retarded to believe this lawsuit even has a chance
you do realise that it would basically eviscerate consoles right?

>>108198574
At first I thought you didn't read my posts, or were too dumb to comprehend them. Now I think you're just willfully misrepresenting what I said to try to win an argument. Nobody is dumb enough to think cracks make multiplayer gaming work in most cases. If that's what you want you are probably locked into a service unless you play older games or get into private server communities. That has little to do with our conversation here.

It's no coincidence that you waited until much later in the thread when the conversation died down to try to snipe with this dumbass reply.

>>108198662
>>Zoomer doesn’t read
>HDMI cables are the viewing sharing option in every computer
Ok and how will it allow me to play games on my TV which is on the other side of my house?

>>Zoomer plays Steam game made for Steam
>Did you know it was originally released in Linux you dumb MF
Supertuxcart was never released on Steam.

>>Hyper Light Drifter offers coop
>That’s a game feature from the Developer you idiot.
Exactly. You claimed:
>Co-Op died because of Valve and here you are celebrating corporate online gaming. There was a better way to play with others than online multiplayer.
However Hyper Light Drifter does support other kinds of coop despite being on steam therefore you are wrong.

>You can do the exact same thing in Nintendo, Epic, Playstation and others.
Wrong. There is no equivalent of steam play together feature in any of these stores.

>>Proving Zoomers don’t read
>The lawsuit is currently about wolfire v Valve. Read more books.
The only lawsuit I've talked about in the thread was the one against Rothschilds. It seems you confused me with someone else.