Can anyone tell me what spur.us and mcl.io are?
>>108181785When in doubt, it's a honeypot.
>>108181785How do you people have issues with this? Using FF with Strict everything + uBO with Nuclear filterlists and it works just fine, nothing to whitelist etc.
>>108181815>can't post here [spoiler]on mobile[/spoiler] without unblocking themWhat do?
>>108181829>had to disable uBOWhy are you lying? It works fine with uBO and all the filters enabled + extra nuclear filters.
I also needed to disable uBO to post here
>>108181852i think it shits itself when you disable js on websites by default, i have the same problem
FEDS suck nigger dicks
What the fuck did they break now? I can't get captchas to load.
Shit's not working for me. I had to disable ublock and umatrix to make this post. That's not good.
Use case for unblocking them?
So basically, you can't post on 4chan anymore unless you opt in to some spyware?
>>108181943At least on mobile, yeah
I dont know why I even still post here
some just want to see the world burn. others.... to make it a cleaner place.
>>108181785It's another layer on top of Cloudflare, they do IP profiling and such. Basically you are being fingerprinted even harder than before. I don't know more than this. Seems sketchy because Cloudflare was supposed to be the Heavy Duty protection anyway.Some preplexity answers:>spur.us is the main site of Spur, a company that sells IP reputation and “are you on a VPN/proxy/resi‑proxy?” style detection to websites.>mcl.spur.us (and related domains) are used as part of a small challenge/network check that runs in your browser to help sites see whether you’re behind a VPN/proxy or other anonymization.>mcl.io appears to be a convenience/short domain used in the same ecosystem, essentially for the same “network check / challenge” purpose (so it will look “strange” if you just open it, but it’s not random malware).
Can someone explain what an "anonymization risk" is, and why anonymity is a risk?
>>108181785Spyware
None of it matters. We've already lost.
Those are some weird subdomains. Seems to work for me for now anyway.
>https://www.spurdebug.com/Here is what it ADMITS to know about you, then never proceed to tell you the results.
>>108181986Oops, I forgot to disable the spur one.
>>108181852He's not lying. The only extensions I use are uBlock, Allow Right Click, and Youtube Nonstop. Disabling uBlock got rid of the message.
>>108181967Right, and now I can't even delete my post which I accidentally posted twice.
>>108181967Yeah it looks like it was added on cloudflare captcha side, those sites doesn't always trigger after you post once with it
>>108181785Yikes tranny mods s
>>108182017I'm able to post again after I temporarily disabled my adblocker and did the captcha, and now it works even after turning the adblocker back on. But now I'm worried that I've permanently logged some shit with spur and it knows shit.
>>108182034They will be there soon.
>https://github.com/spurintel
>>108182034your ip is always logged every site you go.
>>108182034This also worked for me, but I was about to microwave this HD anyways. Hopefully smarter people than I find a work-around soon.Death to countries that start with "I", by the way.
>>108181996The snippet you are supposed to send to support is base64 encoded JSON.That JSON includes a bunch of indicators, ranging from individual features your browser supports, your IP connectivity, your DNS connectivity, stuff on WebGL that didn't run since I used tor, whether you are likely in incognito mode, your clock, potentially what extensions you use, whether you are using adblock, and many other things.Good fucking lord. Even if this is for """"""debugging"""""" it is a horrifying amount of information
>>108182050>https://github.com/orgs/spurintel/followersthe original founders of this are probably in here considering there are only 10 followers so far. >IsraelIt's all so tiresome.
>>108182034>>108182060It will work as long as you have the spur spyware cookie. Unblocking the domains when doing the challenge will generate the cookie.
>>108181968Jews
>more spywareI really need to stop coming here
>>108182070Uh-oh.
>>108182063blame kikefox and jewgle for exposing this information.things like feature support, hardware information and what not should be anonymized for all users by default. i dont care about your shitty javascript website
>>108182070Can confirm that this is the case. Deleted the cookie, and I got the pop-up again. I'M NOT FEELING SO GOOD.
I love israel and the jews.
>Historical Data Access: Delivers access to historical records dating back to 2020.These groids have been scraping our data for 6 years before going public with this. How do I opt-out?
>>108182128Put all your technology into the fireplace of your off grid cabin
>proxy spammers shit up the website relentlessly>wtf why are the site staff actually trying to fix the issue???Sure is a mystery.
>>108182157BUT BROOOOOOOOOOOO IT FUCKS UP THE NORMAL USER EXPERIENCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (it literally does nothing and works perfectly fine even with addons that block shit)
>>108182157>>108182165samegoy.
>>108182060>was about to microwave this HD anywayswhy?
>>108182173Testing again.Turning on and off uBlock like >>108182034 suggested seems to work. Not really comfortable with this, though. Can anyone conceive of a workaround?
>>108181785Cloudflare refuses to work with companies way less worse than 4chan, including kiwifarms but they’ll gladly protect this site from DDOS, then fingerprint devices, browsers & networks? Honeypot confirmed.
>>108182180Another poster mentioned that the reason this works is because it is saving a cookie. If you clear your cookies, it'll stop letting you post until you get it again.
>>108182172Go kill yourself and learn how to browse the internet retarded nigger
>>108182182This site has been a honeypot since the FBI kicked down Moot's door in 2006. Nothing really new on that front.
Here's some more shit it polls during their fingerprinting:>https://captive.apple.com/hotspot-detect.html>https://www.jsdelivr.com/cdn-cgi/trace
>>108182182A stalking and harassment forum is not the same as a hobby and interest discussion forum that's just been drowned in stomfronters and other cancer.
If this kills phoneposters tell me why I should careI'm already seeing the boards I visit increase in quality and it's only been an hour
works fine in israel without turning off anything :)
Is there any possible non-nefarious motive for implementing this shit? I need to know how paranoid I have to be.
>>108182268Bot detection.
Test
>>108182281is vpn posting working though?
>>108181852@@||mcl.spur.us^$script,domain=sys.4chan.org@@||mcl.io^$script,domain=sys.4chan.org
seems like they had the wrong flag on their site in 2020.
>>108181943I can post fine and nothing at all is loading from either of those domains. I don't mean I'm blocking them, I mean they're not being loaded at all.
>>108182303also >>108181856>>108181867>>108181907
>>108181967i dont consent to being fingerprinted
>>108181795>>108181950I got this on my phone and it went away on it's own but it wont go away from my pc. I use brave for both
>>108182312could be A/B rollout
>>108182312cloudflare side decides to load them or not
>>108182303>>108182315those go on my filters
fuck's sake where's my tinfoil hat
Yeah clearing cookies does nothing if you're on ublock. I have to turn it off completely to be able to post again.
Shitape is afraid of his income and is pushing passes hard.
>>108182070Shit you're right. What do I do. I can't just block 4chan cookies...
>>108182281no it's not. but similarly so they can hit you for "ban evasion" if you look too close to someone they don't like from the gaiaonline days
>>108182298vpn posters with pass don't get captcha anyway
>>108182352I turned it on, posted, then turned it back onI dont know if that defeats the purpose
>>108181983lmao, saved
I don't get it.
>>108182383I haven't paid for 4chan in 18 years of posting here and I'll be fucked if I start now.
>>108182385If I turn it on I get the error instead. Also because I've got it off now for the first time I"m seeing these ads at the bottom, which I didn't know were a thing. I mean I knew they were pushing it but I didn't realize how hard.
>>108182381this is related to cloudflare side bot detection, it's not clear if 4chan side enabled it somewhere or has access to it
We really need an exodus.
>>108182005>>108182017I have ghosterly, privacy blocker and ublockorigin. it seems like if I turn all 3 off, take one capcha and then turn them back on things work again
ok but HOW do I unblock them?? I can't post in incognito otherwise
https://cloud.google.com/blog/topics/threat-intelligence/disrupting-largest-residential-proxy-network
>>108182318Use one of the many fingerprint testing sites. I tested it in private browser on Firefox PC, and Safari with a fresh window & new network. Simply switching networks or starting a new session does not change your unique fingerprint. I mean it’s ancient VPN detection software but damn is it evolving, Cloudflare and others are pushing more invasive tracking fingerprint methods, while good for bot prevention it’s a nightmare for privacy. Cloudflare as a company is a big Jew factory, I’ll spare you my opinions on them. Consumers are getting too comfortable with this overreach, Call Of Duty wanted me to run anti cheat software on my PC for Warzone. Fuck that. And the death of local accounts is just a push to cloud computing aka everything from browser history, cache and your photos/files go to glowie servers. You will do nothing, own nothing and be happy.
I bought 4chan pass, you should buy yours too. Less trouble.
>>108182437it's up to firefox and co to limit fingerprinting, you can't hide in crowds with tweaks on your side.
>>108182437I'm sure it is possible to spoof most of the things these shitty web browsers are transmitting over to everyone who wants track goys. Haven't paid much attention to this but maybe I will.I don't give a damn about 4chan it's more about the general stuff and what is going on there.
>>108182434Based. Residential proxies are a scourge on this site, not only are retards using “free” proxies like Tuxler, they are exchanging traffic…so if someone does something illegal while using your proxy address it’s going to be your door they knock on, not to mention getting IP blacklisted by most big online service providers. Too many fucktards flying fake Israel flags for rage bait, this is amazing, if your IP changes countries tied to your device fingerprint you get blocked from posting, way overdo thank you cloud flare, Google, and these new tech start ups!
Since they fingerprint everything including GPU canvas, can I somehow send this comic down the wire to Spur.us servers? I want the goys working there to see Dr. Mutilator and Monster Mohel all over their logs. Because quite frankly, this insane amount of user-data fingerprinting is borderline criminal.
>>108182442the only acceptable payment is the internet bill.and even that one is debatable
it's all so tiresome
>>108182477You can spoof things but other people aren't spoofing things, so you are fingerprinted as the guy that spoofed things. Everyone should report same settings to not have a unique fingerprint
>>108182407I don't really know any other place other than lain to be honest
>>108182523Anecdote, new Call of Duty games take random screenshots of user's game to see if they detect an overlay that way. It is possible to hook these calls and replace them with your own data. Some people have done this and replaced their screenshots with pictures of porn. And someone at Activision has probably seen them.
Fuck TrumpFuck Israel and his alliesI hate the antichrist
>>108182407You are welcome to create a chan clone, pretty simple web project actually, the hardest part is moderation, the moment you go online you will have a thousand sharteens spamming beheadings and CP.
I don't mind blocking this garbage for 4chin since is my regular honeypot.still I'd like to think I can isolate those cookies or something.I'll keep them in mind if I need to delete cookies for whatever reason.
lolthe absolute state of this shit site
>>108182547text only boards like /prog/ were comfy, shame they didn't get any love
>>108182567shouldn't you be able to only enable it on this site? then your adblocker will block the script on other sites and they can't access the cookie
>>108182595God you are such a fucking retard.
I'll still lurk but this will be my last post as long as this is going on. Someone pretty please set up an altchan. This is unacceptable.
>>108182608nothing ever happens
>>108182608That or somebody can set up a workaround that works on most browsers. Surely that's got to be possible.
>>108182608see you in a couple of days bro.
>>108181852It shows up randomly and not on all boards.
enough. the captcha is already tedious compared to the old one. i won't whitelist these sites. none of these changes are improving the site experience. do something the users want for once.
>>108182538I think the screenshot and anti cheat software is a smart thing to combat those ruining the online experience for the rest of us. There should be periodic screenshots of the screen in general because sometimes these sickos will switch between Call Of Duty and then minus out to do illegal stuff on apps like TOR. Cloud account computing is better because it can detect known abuse material and new original content stuff like with Googles AI detection on their browser, photos & any android cloud services. If you hate Epstein then you’d want this rolled out
>>108182608>Someone pretty please set up an altchan.I'll make the logo!
>>108182627the conclusive end of anonymity on the internet.
>>108182312Cloudflare chooses to load these or not.If you're in the EU, they are probably going to try to avoid it as much as possible - because this shit violates the GDPR like a motherfucker.And if word were to get out it'd end up being yet another data mining scandal.
>>108182644And 4chan killed it?
>>108182608I don't get it. Everyone should have go to the other chan after last year's leaks.>>108182622it shows in vg but not in /a/
>>108182608lainchan
>>108182663ylilauta
>>108182647So this was basically forced on 4chan, then?
>>108182652for me it shows on aco and vr but not on g and co.
>>108182647I'm from Scandinavia and had 'aged cookies' but it still wanted to load them. I also happen to have pretty much fixed IP address so even this isn't the reason why would it deem that I'm a big risk factor.I guess it's just something what Cloudflare does. Can't even say if it is because of 4chan in the first place.
>4chan is actually fucking A/B testing their fingerprinting shit on the web front-endand yet, even just asking for an /ai/ board gets you banned. really makes ya ponder.
>>108182647time to report them to GPDR.
>>108182690>wanting an indian board.kys
>>108182647Doubt. The spur and mcl shit is loaded when requesting the captcha, not when passing the cloudflare turnstile.
>>108182647I am indeed in the EU and I'm not getting them, interesting. I guess that might be the reason.
>>108182647>>108182709It happens even in Germany, the regulation nightmare of all US social media corps.
>>108182701other way around bro, i want them gone from here.
Why can't they just leave things be?
>>108181795I have uBlock and I'm getting the same message in all my browsers.
>>108182745Obviously they want to sell passes.
>>108181785Yeah fuck this shithole. Fuck you rapeape and gookmoot
So like how does this work? are there specific cookies for this? should I set my PC to delete all cookies when I close the browser like I do on my phone?
>>108182383Use the right VPN and you can post, case and point: .
>>108182755It would appear to affect a wide variety of posters. Some with Ublock and even some without. So godspeed and good luck. I'd say hope it doesn't happen to you, but "simpsonsit'llhappentoyou.jpg".
All this hassle when all u need to do is rangeban 2 countries and all the issues are fixed.
They're some kind of browser fingerprinting service.>>108181795Trying to get a captcha on win11 says to unblock them. Works on mobile.
>>108182582What a cucked site lmao
>>108182745>official versionThere's a great big pedophile network posting on 4chan and this is terrible we just aren't getting the help we need from the feds we have to fingerprint the living shit out of everyone for the children.>actual realityThe proxy sites, their developers and their uses upset the mods greatly at a personal level. So let's flounder around trying to kill them.
>>108181795If you had nothing to whitelist manually, your setup is trash.
>>108182785Your retard schizo babble is far below any ad hominem.Go suffer.
>>108182799This man speaks the truth. What the mods don't get is that this is a hobby project by a bunch of Russians interested in network engineering since they know that having knowledge on busting through cloudflare will be applicable to when Russia Great Firewalls them even harder, so they have nothing to lose and only fun and lolz to gain >>108182808>Go suffer. Maybe I should post a delicious cutie just to get your blood pressure up. Sorry that you were mutilated at birth for literally no reason.
>>108182693>announcing to an entity controlled by the Democratic Party or its "NGOs", that you are posting on 4chanThat's probably a bad idea.
i would rather have logins than involving third-parties who specialize in data collection. these third-parties always end up selling their data.
So if I disable UBlock, reload, it gets my fingerprint and then gives me the Cloudflare captcha, then I can turn UBO back on (but I guess the damage is already done so that doesn't change anything)Basically this site is making it where blocking third party cookies and scripts breaks the site for normal users. Worse: this won't affect the bot spammers at all and just marks to the largest aggregator of user data that you browse the loli anime site.
>>108182821Now that is an ad hominem. Shall I accept your concession?Also the main reason is to sell passes. It's quite obvious, just look at the ads (disable ublock for a moment).
This is AIDS, I'm not manually whitelisting this malware every time I clear my browser cache
>>108182838RapeApe should be smart enough to realize the fool's errand of trying to monetize 4chan.
>>108182063>>108182091that's so fucking gross. I have brave's anti fingerprinting stuff on which defeats simple things like when you just get back a cloud flare hash. I was thinking about just getting like a burner chromebook that some school was selling used for 4chan since that would be like security though obscurity
>>108182157>>108182165this won't fix the proxy spam
>>108182647GDPR means fuck all, if the EU sues 4chan for it, they'll just send them another one of those "we are in the US, suck it" letters like when the UK tried fining them.>>108182708>Doubt. The spur and mcl shit is loaded when requesting the captcha, not when passing the cloudflare turnstile.So the captcha verification sets an internal variable that user XY with 4chan_pass cookie requested a captcha, said cookie also containing several encrypted IDs, which they could send quietly to spur/mcl to identify you. Or the spur/mcl thing also reads whatever cookies you have set.>>108181996>>108182063That's just standard browser fingerprinting. It's not a "horrifying" amount of information. All it can do is identify that a certain user is a certain user across IPs. For a site like 4chan that's completely normal and kind of required for any level of moderation. I'm surprised it took this long to implement, I've been doing similar shit for almost a decade (ran a webshop that had to detect what phone you use so it could offer you accessories for your device).
>>108182854He probably lives on 4chan money, who knows.>>108182873I'm uncircumcised. Stop fantasizing about other mens penises.
>>108182832True.>>108182880>Owo vgThe what now?
>thread turns /pol/ due to one single schizo faggotaight man, whatever.
>>108182867Brave won't do jack shit when it has 0.01% market share, since being a Brave user will be how you are identified. The absence of data you share is a fingerprint on its own. If 9999 in 10000 users all used Brave anti-fingerprinting, sure, it would matter. But as long as its otherwise, it won't do nothing.>>108182799You forgot the part where the CP spam and the pedophile network is ran by the same user who is trying to kill the site because it offended him by existing.also, fingerprinting actually does help locking out CP spam. I know from experience.
>>108182873i agree logins are not great, but look at the direction things are headed. i'll be sad when this becomes yet another read-only site for me.
I'm going to revise and say that it appears somebody screwed up implementation on this site. Go to their debug site with all the regular sites set to noop https://www.spurdebug.com/ and it appears to work fine on their side. They are doing something that does not tick off UBlock's third party domain filter. I pass every check there except for their DNS sniffer (Everyone should be using DoH at this point)I'm not doing console inspection and troubleshoot for 4chan for free, so fix the site.
Why so many Deleted posts on here?
>>108182261I had a problem with my laptop but I didn't have a problem with my phone
>>108182956People sharing altchans
>>108182956there's a /pol/tard trying to get the whole thread killed.
>>108182954>Go to their debug site with all the regular sites set to noop https://www.spurdebug.com/ and it appears to work fine on their side.What does it display? Does it give you an error if it thinks you're a bot?
>>108182956Janny is working extra hard (for free, can you believe that?)
>>108182977 (me)It finished now. It complains about a bunch of stuff, that's all. Useless for users.
>>108182977No it's doing this: >>108182063Take the snippet it gives you and bring it here: https://www.base64decode.org/ it tells you what it's gathering and how much of it that it was able to find. Too many errors and theoretically it doesn't pass enough of the tests.But if you can get the fingerprint over there, that means it's working fine and RapeApe or whoever just fucked up implementing it here. >>108182996No no, save the snippet. It tells you your fingerprint from their side.
>>108182489they won't ever block israeli vpns because they can't distinguish them from legit users and they don't want to block the jews. most websites have a specific thing where they never block jewish ips because it "can be too heavy handed"
TOTAL ECKER DEATH
>>108182622it is showing up on /a/, /vm/ and of course /g/ on my desktop. i am not going to test all boards; i am reasonably confident its all boards.posting on my phone works, even on the same network. maybe Brave mobile does not block those sites.anyway, its definitely sus.
If this works, how will leto spin it so it looks like he's not owned?
>>108183023It's possible you still have cookies that haven't expired yet. This was only implemented a few hours ago. Unless this is 100% incognito
>>108182303>@@||mcl.spur.us^$script,domain=sys.4chan.org>@@||mcl.io^$script,domain=sys.4chan.orgthanks, it doesn't help that it appears at random which makes fixing the site hard
>>108181795>Nuclear filterlistsWut
>>108182539what's it like being a tranny?
Real time post deletion is a Great Way to kill your website. It was never like this in the past no matter how enthusiastic some new jannies were.Eventually people are afraid to post because it seems like a waste of time and effort.
>>108183026>If this worksThe problem is: This isn't meant to stop the kind of spam that is covering this site. This is purely meant to stop DDOS bots. So a few userscripts will bypass it easily, and since this happens before the turnstyle: RapeApe doesn't see this fingerprint at all. It's useless for his moderation. It's just really fucking annoying for us: The legit users. Who will now have to turn off adblockers or worse, someday have to cross the fjords to post on 4chan.
>>108183064idk man it was implemented for email verification a while back and it made him seethe
>>108183075I don't ever verify my email so is this the same one as email verification?
>>108183034true, i try not to refresh my cookies if i dont have too because the new captcha is so gay. im currently down to just one captcha question on mobile.
>>108183079You mean like if the dev used this service to stop l*to from botting email verifications? Yes.
>>108183085I think that's what is happening. My laptop also didn't have this problem, only my desktop with a fresh session of Waterfox + UBO. If I enable, request the captcha, then refresh, it gives me the cookie and doesn't load the script upon captcha load
>>108182701>>108182690it's called /biz/
>actual pedo seethelol
>>108182407>>108182608You wont ever leave, dont kid yourselves. Just like youtubefags or twitterfags mad at whatever recent enshittification youll fuss and whine but then keep using it because>every other place is SOOOOOO slow :(>I need the one with most content to consumeTheres even altchans already existing out there like infinity moe but you wont move for even a dayNow suck it up or buy the pass, stupid goyium. Hiromoot and RapeApe need their cash
>>108183088k, didn't know that.I want this shit to go away simply because I hate every single little thing I have to do to make websites work if I won't accept the third party scripts or cookies. It's not obnoxious right now, but it'll get really fucking obnoxious because there's no way this isn't highly exploitable. It likely just stopped whoever for a very short amount of time.
>>108182772the message came up once on my phone and then resolved itself. I had to turn off my extensions on my laptop, post once, and then turn them back on >>108182786yeah, yurop and india
>>108183121>You wont ever leaveAnon we're down to like half of the userbase of what we had pre-hack, stop saying this shit, you're actually making it come true.
probably just coincidence
Do you guys have weird ram spike data movement since this thing was added? Like 1/4gb of data being created and deleted constantly? (firefox)
>>108181852just had it on ff+ublock, but went away after disabling ublock just for 'get captcha' click, hasn't come back yet, weird
>>108183134i like 4chan because its very pro free speech. it doesn't have to be but i like being able to post almost anything ill be sad if i cant use 4chan anymore, but maybe its time to go dark. the internet is getting way too botnetty.
>>108183098oh, you meant proxy sites as in the basedjack site? I thought you were speaking of owo.as far as I can tell the jack site is just a bunch of internet tough guys, same as what 4chan used to be 20 years ago with all the anonymous activism. Just, you know, they are absolutely fucking insane on top of it.
>>108183149The fingerprinter might probe your performance or size of RAM. Who knows.
>>108183134nta but that's partly to blame on the captchas, I'm not complaining though it finally filtered a shitload of the garbage phone posters and low effort spammers/shills
>>108183149It should be doing this: https://www.spurdebug.com/If you look at the console it's creating and running its fingerprinting process and it's not light weight
>>108182833same and pretty much
>>108183171holy shit no way they need all this infoAMOGUS
>>108183160I imagine if 4chan ever went dark for real I'd just move to IRC or matrix and just never post on the internet again. It would suck having the only hobby I've had for the past 25 years become the equivalent of cable TV, but there isn't much else to do unless I'm willing to post pictures of my dick for advertisers (who I trust way less than the guy who wants pictures of my dick on a steam deck)
>>1081831824chan is the only site i post on. fuck r*ddit and everything else, i wouldnt last a day there.
>>108183181linkedin was serializing like 2000 plugins in their fingerprint
>>108183170The captcha changed only in the last 3 months.
>>108183181Welp, someone at Cloudflare thinks he does. Buy a pass goyim (actually I don't think a pass bypasses this because you still need to use a CF captcha to login and I'm not a passfag so I don't know if it's there too)
>>1081828944chan did pay the UK though.
>>108183165I have 64gb of RAM (and many 4chan active tabs) and I always have the task manager running on the side, and since those things popped up, I have the RAM graph that look like this (it's usually flat).>>108183171no way they are doing this constantly lol(wonder if it's a bug/issue with 4chan XT)
>>108183181They probably put it into some sort of machine learning algorithm and cluster the result.
>>108183121I might just revert to permanent lurker. I mostly lurk anyway but shit like this makes me not really want to post. I had no problem with the in house captcha before but if it has to use some freaky third party domain to work, that makes me reluctant to post. e.g. right now I'm using the "disable blockers once/then re-enable trick" but I'm not sure what that really means in terms of fingerprinting and all that. I do mostly lurk altchans and occasionally post so I guess maybe this is a sign to up my posting in those places. It's kind of sad though because there are a few niche threads here that I like.
>>108183206lol jesusits really over
>>108183190Pretty much. Upvote and like systems ruined the internet. Everything is AI moderated now as well, so if I want to speak to anybody I'm walking on eggshells to not offend a brainless computer that is intentionally made to take everything out of context and ban first before asking questions later (it can't ask questions)
>>108182934>Brave won't do jack shit when it has 0.01% market share, since being a Brave user will be how you are identifiedyou can go look up some of the stuff from the leak. staff don't have access to all of your settings, they just get like a pair of hashes back from cloudflare so if you have brave it changes the hash you send back. obviously brave does not block all or most finger printing but it does fuck with the specific thing 4chan was doing prehack
>>108183208They've been digging their own grave very slowly since moot left, and we're starting to see results.Every months my home board feels even slower...
>>108183134it's even worse than that, 2009 numbers... if only the post quality was as high as back then I wouldn't mind at all
>>108182956it's a pedo. which is annoying. I have the 4chan ghost post reader on but it's fucking with the 4chan xt back link hover
so just turning Ublock once was GIGANTIC mistake and now I have spuderspybug in browser?FUCK.>>108183171
>>108183200i don't think this is cloudflare, it loads before requesting hcaptcha not cloudflare turnstile.
>>108181795>uBO with Nuclear filterlists>Nuclear filterlistsWhat did he mean by this?
>>108183217I think you can do this with any canvas blocker. Or use the user agent swapper and the hash is different.Keep in mind doing this puts a big target on your back for the mods so generally it's best to just not change anything unless some shit-eater decides he wants to 3Day an entire thread>>108183223Funny enough I think most of the users who haven't left are part of the bots and proxy posters.
>>108183002god, that would make 4chan so much better
>>108183023yeah I had the same issue with brave mobile vs brave pc
>>108183244Yep. It's just a cookie so clear cookies and reload and its' goneThe fingerprinting itself is done, though. But I don't think anyone who has UBO enabled is getting the same fingerprint as someone who disables it. You can compare on the debug site and see some fields change. It thinks I'm running safari for instance. >>108183253Follow the lists on https://github.com/yokoffing/filterlists and do the maximum
>>108183171>and it's not light weightThe fingerprinting part is very light weight. There are certain fingerprint checks which are slower than not (like testing fonts), but as far as I can tell it's not running any of those. Based on the output, anyway. It does run a math performance test which is probably about the heaviest thing in there. The rest of those are mostly 0.001 sec lookups. It's also not even capturing that much info.What makes the spur thing actually slow is that it runs 348579 network checks as well and those take time to complete, especially since it runs them one by one. At least on spurdebug. In a real site you could run most of them at the same time asynchronously. But adding a network speed test will obviously make it take a while to run.
>>108183050the guy getting his posts deleted is a fucking pedo who admits he's a pedo and who is using a vpn. the janny isn't doing anything wrong
>>108183276>What makes the spur thing actually slow is that it runs 348579 network checks as well and those take time to complete, especially since it runs them one by one. At least on spurdebug. In a real site you could run most of them at the same time asynchronously. But adding a network speed test will obviously make it take a while to run.What is it doing? Is it specifically a speed test or is it trying to probe DNS providers?
>>108183276This is so fucking gay.
>>108183206systemd-run --quiet --user --scope -p MemoryMax=1G -p MemorySwapMax=0 librewolf
>>108183270relevant filter is in ublock's filter, if brave using their list it would also block*$script,3p,denyallow=4cdn.org|4chan.org|cloudflare.com|google.com|gstatic.com|hcaptcha.com|mathjax.org,domain=boards.4channel.org*$script,3p,denyallow=4cdn.org|4channel.org|cloudflare.com|google.com|gstatic.com|hcaptcha.com|mathjax.org,domain=4chan.org
So what is the final verdict on all of this?
>>108183312It's over.
>>108183280there are multiple fairly active websites full of schizos actively trying to shit up this website, I don't envy the jannies for having to put up with their shit 24/7still wish there was a less intrusive way of fighting this, but short of total residential proxy death I'm not really sure how this situation is fixable without stepping on a few toes
>>108183312we're back
>>108183317hell one of them is openly meant for people to discuss methods to post cp on here
>>108183312I don't know.
>>108183298windows, waterfoxalso, the high RAM usage is normal, I have many many tabs running, what is not normal is the constant spike
>>108183283>What is it doing? Is it specifically a speed test or is it trying to probe DNS providers?I didn't check, I only read the output json, and there's like a dozen network checks there. DNS, ip4, ip6, a speed test, tests how fast you can access several CDNs (apple hotspot, jsdelivr, google dns), just from memory. No clue what it is useful for, but I imagine it could be used to profile your network connection, which could potentially be used to detect VPNs if you have a large enough data set.Would love to see what kind of database they have with all this data, it makes my aspergers tingle like a Spidey's spider-sense when fighting the sinister six.
>>108183312someone should post breakage here so ublock filter gets fixedhttps://github.com/uBlockOrigin/uAssets
Proxy spam will continue and now users will get fingerprinted further. GrapeApe doing a great job, same retard that got the website hacked because he couldn't be assed to update pdf software btw
>>108183085the new captcha is so fucking gay. I hate having to leave my cookies up for over a week to get less of it
Well I fixed it turning ublock off and clearing cookies then I could turn it back on. Then for shits and giggles after posting/lurking for thirty minutes cleared my cookies again and the error is back and I couldn't post until I turned off ublock again.
>>108183343I'd do it but I got banned because I called Gorhill a nigger back in 2019.
>>108183345We'll see. rapeape is a retard but the initial spur.us implementation did make l*to angry.>>108183353so make an exception for 4chans domains
ill just use the browser i use to evade all the time now i guess.
But you know what's even more annoying? The random "Posting/uploading has been blocked from your IP range due to abuse, buy a pass or give us your Email nigger"
>>108183170>it finally filtered a shitload of the garbage phone postersit's literally easier for me to phone post than desktop post and I only ever phone post in incogneto and never keep cookies
>>108183343Is it a ublock filter, though?
>>108183190>4chan is the only site i post on.same
Currently can't get a captcha to post here unless I disable uBlock.
How is reddit these days?Can't be that bad... right?
>>108183387yeah its herehttps://github.com/uBlockOrigin/uAssets/blob/master/filters/filters-2020.txt#L1030spur.us and mcl.io should be added to 4chan 3p list
>>108183254>I think you can do this withI've had great success doing this vs when I was using chrome
>everyone complains about how cancer cloudflare is>SOMEHOW it wasn't enough cancer
>>108183307It's ublock. I don't think I have ublock on my phone. I had to disable and reenable ublock to post on desktop
>>108183379>But you know what's even more annoying? The random "Posting/uploading has been blocked from your IP range due to abuse, buy a pass or give us your Email nigger"That one was confirmed by the source code to show up by calling rand(0,1) if 4chan doesn't like your browser profile, ie. if you use firefox and don't have a high enough captcha score it'll randomly show up with a 50% chance.It still happens to me occasionally on Firefox, I then have to post from Chrome, after that Firefox works again. Once you pass enough captchas (which takes a fucking week) it will no longer happen.I think they know it's broken but they just keep it in there because 4chan has so many users that if the error makes 1 in a million users buy a pass, they already made hundreds if not thousands of dollars on it.
>>108183366>so make an exception for 4chans domainscant because reasons
>>108183426What the fuck.
>>108183379you know that's fake right? 4chan gives you a score based on your browser and hardware and if you get a bad score you get that fake message. try using brave and chrome. chrome gives you a better score than brave. it's also why brave gives you more captcha and more annoying captcha than chrome does.
But hey, at least we know uB is doing its job, that's reassuring
>>108183426>they just keep it in there because 4chan has so many users that if the error makes 1 in a million users buy a pass>Current Users: 237,143And probably more than 40% of those are lurkers.
>>108183447>tfw computer isn't good enough to post on 4chantoasterchuds...
>>108183447It may be partially fake, but not entirely. I often use my phone as a hot-spot at my workshop with 5 or 6 devices working off it, and it appears on all of them. Agnostic of system or browser, anything using my phone's network connection can't post.
>>108183426Hmm I haven't gotten that occasionally and always wondered what it was. What makes your captcha score lower though? Just not solving enough or something?
>>108183312https://www.linkedin.com/posts/riley-kilmer-419a31176_as-a-quick-post-that-breaks-from-my-normal-activity-6927285193053503488-LD_q
>>108183500have gotten* of course
>>108183201what?i hope they did not.
>>108183201How? This whole site probably makes less per year than you do
>>108183075the email verification let to a situation where the website was hacked and down for 3 weeks, but for 2 of those weeks the website users themselves were celebrating and just at the start of the 3rd week there were some legitimate concerns that the hack may have been permanent. these new annoying features just mean that when the next hack happens, you will be celebrating for a few weeks.
>>108183201Stop making shit up
>>108183486>It may be partially fake, but not entirely.It is fake. The source code for 4chan was leaked, you can look up the error. If you are legitimately range banned, you get a completely different message. The abuse message is tied to the bot score check and if your score is too low the site literally rolls the dice. It also gets generated after you post, that's why sometimes you get it 100% of the time, but if you then post on another browser, you roll another check.There's also a dozen or so very specific spam checks for certain board + thread combinations, where you can only post if you have a high enough verified score + have posted enough posts on the site + have a low enough threat score.
>>108183554>the email verification let to a situation where the website was hacked and down for 3 weeksi'm pretty sure not updating freebsd was the bigger problem
>>108183565like it or not, it is absurd to read news about 4cahn dying on reddit and celebrate together with 99% of other posters, 90% of whom are 4channers. still, there was this tense moment at the start of week 3 where people though it was over for ever, so it was not the best overall experience, but quite fun in the start.
>>108183560well that explains why i had one browser specifically blocked from posting in one thread specifically one time. jesus. no wonder they cant moderate.
>>108183577>4cahn dyingwell, it's mossad, so it won't. However, the Holy Ghost will move to save the white race.
All of this shit could be avoid by simply having accounts.It's time to do the jump.We will all still be publicly anonymous in the front end.
>>1081835004chan saves your user profile via cookies and the more you post successfully, the higher your profiles score is, and the easier the captchas get. It's actually quite impressive that they could automate it. I've been meaning to write something similar but there are so many minimal variables potentially breaking it, that I never bothered.>>108183565The problem was that they never fixed the code to run on modern PHP versions, the server was stuck running PHP 5.6. Updating the server could've broken any number of random things. There were signs there that they at least attempted to start updating though.
>>108183599>accountsPasses and email verification are already like accounts. If the staff of this site still communicated with its users (instead of hiding like cowards), they would tell you buy passu.
>>108183456that is nice>>108183468lol androids, especially older androids, give worse scores in those tests than newer iphones>>108183486do you use brave or a normie browser like safari in regular cookies mode where your anus is exposed?
>>108183598all and all these changes just make the users more hostile to the website, which I cannot imagine to leading to any pass sales increases. its literally a "pay to lose money" feature as it was not free to implement ( for sure ) and it will not lead to pass sales.
everyone give desuwa your energy so he can fight the proxyfags!!
if i disabled ubo am i pozzed now
>>108183620>the solution is... fucking over everyone with a fingerprinter worse than cloudflareFuck that incompetent retard.
>>108183609Yeah, the lack of communication is the worst. It just comes off as arrogant, like they actively hate their user base. No wonder that one 7chan phone app dev ragequit with a message about how the administration shits on its users.
>>108183460where are you getting these stats?>>108183500you get a worse score the more indian you areold ass android, mobile IP address (or ip range where someone is causing issues), brave, bad scorenew iphone, normal wifi, safari with cookies enabled and your anus exposted, good score
>>108183627You will be raped in 1 hour
>>108183599your fingerprint is more or less an invisible account
>>108183630>like they actively hate their user baseThey do, have you forgotten the last couple happenings?
>>108183560yeah, like sometimes you can make a thread on /pol/ but not on /v/
>>108183631>where are you getting these stats?From the homepage? https://www.4chan.org/ just scroll down a bit.
>>108183609But RapeApe does communicateOn twitterAnd its mostly rants and milquetoast political takesBut he does
>>108183620Nuke Israel and all the CP spammers disappear.
>>108183602>the easier the captchas getThis part never seems to happen to me but I clear cookies basically once a day so that's probably why.
>>108183631if i am on my mobile network (Mint mobile which i believe runs on T-mobile) its basically 50/50 if i get the 'blocked by abuse'.this is a college town so i assume its retards posting CP or sumthin.
>>108183599the emails work as accounts
>>108183630>like they actively hate their user base.They very obviously do. They're so spiteful, I have no idea why they are even still on this website.
>>108183647>xitterSee, he doesn't even want to use his own website.
>>108183650Last time I had to clear cookies it too me an entire fucking week to move away from the "select 2 stars with 5 points" utter fucking garbage, to just three instances of "select an image not like the others".
>right when that Anon was working on getting Clover to work againIt's so fucking over.
>>108183645oh I thought this was like when people were posting >there were only 30 IPs on /pw/ in november Which if you know about /pw/ would be like 3 guys because there are a ton of ban evading schizos. The whole board is like a series of schizos ban evading so they can troll the other schizo who is ban evading because they don't like each other and are trying to get the other fag to leave the site
>>108183669I thought it was only 3 days?
>>108183366>the initial spur.us implementation did make l*to angry.killed his bots and forced them to depend posters to age sessions
>>108183650you need to have your cookies up close to a week depending on your browser >>108183651there's a good chance your phone hardware/browser choice is contributing to it. again the actual range ban gives you a different message
I remember when they did this with the pigguip stuff years ago.
>>108183684nta, but it depends on your initial score. I use brave and captcha fucking HATES me
why is your data worth protecting
>>108183345i still think its funny x made him change his name to GrapeApe lmao
>>108183560interesting
>>108183620why are you mossad? get a real job.
>>108183687Funniest way to fuck with him would be to buy residential proxies yourself and burn as many of his sessions as possible, probably.
>>108183688well i assume its because my IP addy is constantly changing on mobile. its one of them newfangled IPs that looks crazy and is super long.sometimes ill just get an ip addy that was permabanned for CP like a year ago or whatevs and have to wait for it to refresh.easier to not use mobile. i barely use the site outside of my house wifi network because its so pervasive.
Good news bad newsBad news is I just got that fucking thing again, mid threadGood news is apparently >Ghostery Tracker & Ad Blocker - Privacyis blocking the cookies so it must actually work
>>108183684oh hell no, it took me an entire month (entirety of January) to move from the worst captcha version to a simpler one on my other computer
>>108183699I'm an antisemite >>108183733I fucking HATE phone posting but it's honestly easier for me, captcha and ip wise to just phonepost
>>108183016>https://p.%65cker.tech/g/thread/108181785/
>>108183651There -is- an auto range ban that checks for IPs with the same first two octets as you, eg. 12.34.xx.xx. And it's automatically ran on every post and will give you an auto ban depending on custom filters in the database. like for ex. they could have a filter for a certain string or regex, and if your post matches those, you'll get logged in the event log. Then on your next post, if there's anything in the event log AND you don't have x posts or have not posted in y minutes, you get blocked. Then having a normal post (in another browser) clears it.But there are also other checks that actually will roll randomly on whether you should be blocked or not. Or even show a fake post that doesn't get written in the database.Next time you get the message, try using a different browser, see if it'll get through.But these are not actual range bans. If you were range banned, it would outright say you are range banned. The "blocked due to abuse" is automated, and based on banned strings increasing the chance for it to happen.In other words, if you say a bad word you'll get a boo boo.
