Are people really buying Twitch "viewers"?
Absolutely.
They think that once they buy some viewers, others will see "oh he has 1000 viewers, must be a popular streamer" and join the stream too. And then they hope that later on they won't have to rely on fake viewers anymore.
>>108183344this has of course been going on since forever. gangnam style was perhaps one of the first videos to take it to an autistic level though. there are a LOT of people who have no qualms with being a fraud if they can get away with it.
>>108183344Fandom used to embed like 3 fucking streams on their wikis to farm views, I think at some point they got caught selling this as a service.
>>108185409>FandomYou're talking about fextralive. Fandom is the formerly decent wiki bought by venture capitalists that filled it with obtrusive ads and probably malware.
Normal people buy likes to feel better. I am not kidding.
>>108183344>Are people really buying Twitch "viewers"?yes. also: youtube, spotify, tiktok etc. all plagued by very same losers running bots
>>108183359If you start streaming with 0 viewers nobody will ever see your streams and you'll never break through (I think Ludwig did this once and it took multiple hours to get 1 viewer). You need to either have some followers somewhere else or you need bots. It will only work if your streams are actually interesting though.
>>108183848wait, gangnam style was botted?
>>108183344Yes. They do it because it makes them money.
Twitch is so fucking gayI am a long time subscriber to one channel and I have subscribed to about 3 other channels consistently, and donated money to many othersHowever on two channels, I joined the discord servers for the channels and basically, those spaces are circle jerk fests, the rules of twitch's platform don't apply because its nothing to do with twitch.However, almost every twitch channel has some form of bot i think or integrated by twitch process to ban you on a twitch channel if you get banned on that channels discordAnd streamers also share ban lists, on twitch, so if you get banned on one stream, you will be banned on any channel they share their ban list with.As a result I have been banned from like 3 streamers who all know eachother because of some faggot discord mod banning me
>>108185546>it took multiple hours to get 1 vieweroh boo fucking hoo you have to put in a *cry* few hours to get 1 viewer and then your road to free easy money is openedno other job needs a few hours of effort, its not like law school takes years or some shit
if you want to get views you need to have several things going on:>IG + IG clips>tiktoks>substack>streaming to YT + twitch + kick>book on amazon>active in your own discord, telegramit will take something like 1 year to get to 100-200 viewers, 2-3 years to get to 1k consistently, and then you might climb to 10k+ if you have good content or can go viral. 1k consistent viewers will get you 100k/yr if you also sell books or tshirts and hats which is where most people that bother to try and stream for over 5 years settle at, creating a small community of about 100k subs on youtube and having 1% actively engage with them on some rotating basis of about 10-20k people per year.what this means is that something like 1 out of 20,000 people can be streamers and currently the number is more like 1 out of 100,000 attempting it so there is room for growth.of course if you network with bigger streamers you can skip the first 3 years and jump to 1k immediately and from there bot and boost yourself into multi-millionaire status. fresh new content always scales well, this is why clavicular went from 100 viewers to 100k in 6 months, it's just funny to watch girls lust after guys, since we normally see the opposite. the only people who have time to watch streamers are neets and children in school, so long term it's not a great revenue generator. podcast/talkshow bros with their dick pill adds make equivalent money for far less effort.
>>108187086>Long time cuck
>>108183359apparently that actually works
>>108183359It does work. Also they continue doing it once they are big because they can get better sponsorship deals.
honestly, after watching somebody with a really entretaining stream but absolutely rotten as human being reach millionarie status I want nothing but for a crazy fan to stab him in the neck, way too many of them legit deserve that fate
>>108187035No
>>108185433NTA but Fandom always has shitty unrelated videos streaming on its wiki pages so I wouldn't be surprised at all if they sold views this way>formerly decent wikiWikia was never good, even before the rebrand.
>>108187124You talk as if it's easy to scale but there are tons of streamers who have been sitting on anywhere around 10 to 100 viewers for years. Some of them are mumbling retards but some of them have decent content, and it's not like popular streamers aren't often bumbling retards.Especially going above 1k is rare, I've watched a good few streamers who are generally sitting around 500 to 2k viewers and are very stable at that number, all while having decent content. Unless by "good content" you specifically mean something truly novel and uniquely engaging and high-effort, like clavicular getting a ton of plastic surgery and making streams of ignoring women, which is not something commonly seen elsewhere but also not something you can just do on a whim for your streaming career.
>>108187175who
i'm a bought twitch viewerama
>>108185546>>108187100my stream thing says ive had 11 viewers over 3 streams but my camera broke. was gutted and shouldnt have bought 2nd hand razer one.
>>108183344Streamers say that bots are realWhat i think Is that twitch itself Is botting to get viewer numbers up for ad companies
>he wastes his time watching twitch
>>108192598come watch my stream and make me wealthy enough to buy an house for me and me mum
>>108193259What do you waste your time doing?Sucking cock?Faggot.
>>108185546The fuck? I had 2-12 viewers the two times I tried live streaming and I didn't have a camera or mic.
>>108193259Turns out background noise isnt a bad thing
>>108183344Just watch the chat activity and compare it with viewer count.
>>108183344>>108183359>>108183848>>108185546how is this any different from every single silicon valley startup dumping tens of millions into extremely negative CAC scaling campaigns? you spend money to get customers, then monetize the customers.on streaming platforms it means spending money on fake views so your stream gets shown to real viewers.
>>108183344>*step sounds*>*door creaking open*>wanna become famous? buy followers at ***.com>***.com
>>108183344Yes, botting views is extremely common as part of a 'fake til you make it' since people will assume a streamer with lots of concurrent viewers is popular, so they'll start watching them too because of bandwagon mentality. That's actually how Asmongold got to be big, he just botted himself until he got people to actually listen to him.The big problem with Twitch is how much of a pain in the ass it is to get around ads and how much more aggressive they are than youtube given most ad blockers are designed for youtube first.
>>108183344didnt say theyre actually "viewing"
Twitch doesn't work on my Librewolf so I never bother with it, what did I miss?
>>108194637nothing that can't be enjoyed in a fraction of the time in the yt xompilations, well chatters apparently have le fun, I don't even log in, rarest thing I've heard about is offline chats being lit cause the mods are asleep
>>108194637another interesting tw phenomena is girl streamers who play videogames and their content is them being constantly insulted in all type of ways by money donations that are read aloud by some text to voice chat, and chats spamming ascii cocks swastikas and hitlers
>>108187086>I'm a HUGE FAGGOT GUYS LOOK HOW MUCH OF A MASSIVE RETARD I AM>gets bannedPredictable outcome.
>>108194596>The big problem with Twitch is how much of a pain in the ass it is to get around ads>LET ME WATCH MEN>I WANT TO WATCH MEN>AAAAHHHH I HATE GAMES ONLY WATCH GAMES>MUST WATCH INTERNET MANKill yourself you fucking simp.
>>108183359I only came into this thread because there were so many people here to begin with
>>108194679Want to talk about your violent personal issues with the class?
yes, did you know that they had to pay people to use shopping carts when they were introduced because people are cattle
>>108185546what kind of weirdo scrolls down to find zero viewer streams
>>108194687posts that have a (You) are far more likely to get another (You)I sometimes (You) myself a couple times and end up with dozens
>>108183359>>108187139>>108187173Its not even a new concept, restaurants understood this for decades and would have staff sit at the tables pretending to be customers when it was slow.
>>108187035no gangnam style was organic in Korea and SE Asia and then spread to the asian diaspora in the west and then whitey found it months later. it was probably the last big organic "cultural" "event".
>>108183344Think of buying viewers as buying an ad. The more viewers you have the higher you will show on the streaming site. And thus more people will see your stream.
>>108196424Harlem shake
