I dont get it. The 9070 XT and 5070Ti offer roughly the same performance, but people are more than happy to overpay +30% for the NVIDIA.Why is that?
>>108184203>DLSS 4.5 is a lot better than FSR 4>Nvidia has less issues with drivers/games.>If you want you can use AI without bending over backwards like you have to with AMD.
>>108184203rtx 5070ti has 8960 cuda cores and the 9070 xt has 4096 cores.
>>108184203The 5070 Ti has more than twice the path traced rendering performance in Blender as the 9070 XT.
Because most people use Windows
>>108184219> DLSS 4.5 is a lot better than FSR 4What if you have no interest with upscaling slop?
>>108184665Lots of other reasons there bud
That is not a good deal but i think swapping my 4060 for a rx 9060 xt was
>>108184203CUDA.Software support in general, see blender and Autocad performance.
>>108184999Pretty much this, trips of truth. NVIDIA’s CUDA infrastructure is where they make all their money, locking in the scientific compute community to their closed source libraries that runs only on their hardware. There is a benefit: theoretically since they made the hardware they can optimize their framework better than optimizing it for themselves, AMD, and Intel now. Theoretically, and so far it seems to have worked.
>>108184219>Nvidia>less issueslol, lmao
>>108184203AI gooning
>>108184387wait this is really bad can someone please debunk this, is this because you selected cuda as a renderer
>>108184203curious, does the 9070XT or that series still allow for interlaced output or did amd strip that away recently?
>>108184665in short: speculationyou're future proofed for the potential that DLSS can give, especially when they use more complicated AI models to upscalewhether it will come in time to justify the money you spent now is a different question
>>108185756no, cuda doesnt actually return any results. optix gets you the nviida card and hip gets you the amd card https://opendata.blender.org/benchmarks/query/?device_name=NVIDIA%20GeForce%20RTX%205070%20Ti&device_name=AMD%20Radeon%20RX%209070%20XT&compute_type=HIP&compute_type=OPTIX&blender_version=4.5.0&group_by=device_name
>>108184665if youre playing old games or games with antiquated graphical styling, you dont need a new card
>>108185858what the fucking shit its even worse on linux this is abysmally bad this has to be wrong, i was planning on getting an amd card next wtf, why would an open source project work worse with the open source graphics drivers am i retarded AUUGGH AUUGUHHG AUGHHG
>>108185887>why would an open source project work worse with the open source graphics driversbecause the closed source driver is made by people who get paid, obviously
>>108185887>amd>everspend the money, buy the best shit.
>>108184203From what I understand, NGreedya drivers are better. I've personally never had a problem with my AMD cards, but NGreedya junk is mostly used by gaymurs and AI kiddy porn afficionados - that is, retards who can't even wipe their own asses.
>>108184203This anime fucking sucks. Who made it?
>>108184203Nvidia has a better track record of support for older GPUs.If you have an RDNA 3 AMD GPU you are stuck with awful FSR3 for example even though FSR4 is proven to work just fine.They will probably fuck you over next time if you buy 90s series now.
>>108184203People enjoy getting fucked by the gimped Nvidia Linux drivers.
>>108184219>DLSS 4.5 is a lot better than FSR 4AI upscaling looks fucking horrible in both cases.
>>108184219This is /thread.
>>108186692>Nvidia has a better track record of support for older GPUs.On Windows perhaps. And even that is debatable.
>>108186692Ever heard of AMD Fine Wine?AMD performance tends to increase with every driver.Nvidia tends to lower for older GPUs.
>>108185887AMD intentionally gimps their gaming cards LOL
>>108186952every RDNA series has aged like nigger shit compared to the NVIDIA equivalent, fine wine is totally dead and AMD ages worse now
>>108184203you will be locked out of FSR 5 when AMD will eventually release the 10k series
>>108184203>DLAA is a better AA than TAA if it's available>DLSS mogs FSR and DLSS supports all RTX cards unlike FSR with RDNA>CUDA>NVENCAnd Driver support for 10 years unlike AM(id)D which will cuck you out 3 years in
>>1081842033D software and AI memes have better support for Nvidia
>>108186961>fine wine is totally deadYou keep telling yourself that bro.https://www.phoronix.com/review/linux-619-amdgpu-radeon
>>108184219>Nvidia has less issues with driverslol lmao even
>>108187537>every RDNA series>posts an article about GCN 1/1.1yeah...
The reasons are RTX HDR, DLSS 4.5, CUDA, better ML perf and better RT perf.>b-but these are all meme featuresOK then buy a 9070 XT. Problem solved.Nobody in these threads asks this question in good faith. It's always about validating muh AMD and muh nvidia. Pick the card that suits your needs best. It's not rocket science. Be glad you even have a choice because this isn't a given in this market.
>>108187582:rocket:
>>108186692as a 79xtx user i must say, i feel cucked, especially now that upscalers have become good, and game performance is becoming worse and worse, but I have no need to change gpu anytime soon anyway. hopefully intel is actually going to compete next generation or we're all fucked.
>>108187550I was talking about Fine Wine in general.
>>108187680and the claim was this>fine wine is totally dead and AMD ages worse now
>>108184219>DLSS 4.5 is a lot better than FSR 4Both are slop and I refuse to use them>Nvidia has less issues with drivers/gamesOn the news I always hear about a new Windows update crippling the NVIDIA drivers>AISlop which I don't use
>FSR 4lmao XESS 3 is better than that steaming pile of shit and jewntel isn't even trying
>>108184219>Nvidia has less issues with drivers/games.lol
>>108186074Went to sleep so I couldn't discuss this further. This is a slam dunk on AMD cards that I haven't seen discussed here yet. I guess path tracing isn't that big a deal, the last time I used blender I didn't use it that much. But almost a 3x difference is absurd. And the 9070 is only 30% than the 2080 super I already have from six years ago. I'm tired of having NVIDIA-related issues on Linux but to buy a brand new 1000$ graphics card that's only slightly better in some of the areas my old one was irks me. Not sure if I'll be buying AMD anymore, I'll have to wait longer.
>>108184203>The 9070 XT and 5070Ti offer roughly the same performancelmaolmaolmaolmaolmaolmaolmaolmaolmaolmaolmaolmaolmaolmaolmaolmaolmaolmaolmaolmaolmaolmaolmaolmaolmaolmaolmaolmaolmaolmaolmaolmaolmaolmaolmaolmaolmaolmao
>>108186363A Jap.
>>108184665Then you should look for a new hobby because the jeets programming all graphivally intensive games will abuse the fuck out of framegen as a crutch to their god awful optimization practices.Modern games are only going to be runnable at 60fps by the 90 series.
>>108188729Some games are already designed with upscaling/antialiasing in mind like PS5 original slop games, when ported to PC they look like trash with all kinds of render issues unless you use FSR/DLAA antialiasing.
>>108188388>I'm tired of having NVIDIA-related issues on LinuxThat in itself is a big enough drawback that made me rule out Nvidia entirely.Not to mention the price difference.
>>108187688>>108186961sure bro
>>108184219>I am a retarded niggerfaggot goy>I am a retarded niggerfaggot goy>I am a retarded niggerfaggot goyI guess whatever makes your life fun for you anon
>>108184203I've been burned with AMD cards twice and their CPUs are great but the whole "you have to update your motherboard with another CPU before you plug yours... Oh you don't have spares? Suck to b u kek lmao" thing is starting to get to me
>>108189446>"you have to update your motherboard with another CPU before you plug yours... Oh you don't have spares?just flashback the bios
>>108189490Some of them don't have flashback, also>"I don't like any of the usb sticks you're plugging on me, I'm not reading shit"
>>108189496I flashbacked an AM5 asrock board with an old ass usb like a retard and was sweating bullets the whole time, still worked seamlessly, would never do again though.
>>108184203This thread is proof that Nvidia will get away with crawling back to gamers once the AI bubble pops. All the anger and all the ragebaiting call out videos accusing Jensen of being a government stooge are absolutely meaningless if you're all still going to turn around and buy an overpriced RTX 60 series GPU anyway.
>>108187582I went from 3060 12gb to 9070xt and it's satisfactory. I paid $630. Just happy to have it now that there will be no new gpus for at least 2 years.
>>108189619There isn't going to be a 60 series. Personal hardware is over. This was the last generation.
>>108184203You'll never get genuine answers regarding this because retards in the hardware community are still fighting console wars.
>>108189765Nvidia GPUs have more dedicated parts to doing ray tracing and path tracing.
>>108184548Outside of the DX12 issues there's less reason to use AMD this gen due to almost everything outside of gaming running better on Nvidia. Some stability issues can be fixed by simply offloading task to a igpu if you really need it. But that's far and few if you're using recent drivers and the dx12 issue is going to be fixed in a few months.
AMD has been horrible on the software front to the point I rather deal with the green jew. They could have easily gained momentum this gen but instead they stopped at a 70 class card and tried to EoL perfectly functional cards for architectures they are still releasing new.NVIDIA is burrying them because they are actually working with linux compatibility now and are pressuring wayland devs into doing the right thing. We're less than 3 months away from gaming being fixed with DX12 and about a 6-12 months away from wayland being fine which for many it is already.
>>108185887The problem is cultural. Now a single Asian country respects the software guy. Not a one. nVidia sees itself as a software company while AMD sees itself as a hardware company that sometimes, on occasion, hires a filthy software guy while holding their noses.
AMD is failing at software on both windows and AMD, NVIDIA should not be this close to their throat on linux of all fucking platforms. Some flows like DLSS version swapping are even easier on linux
nvidia has users amd has buyers
