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FAQ:
>How do I activate Windows?
HWID2 generates and registers a permanent legitimate license on MS's activation servers
github.com/massgravel/Microsoft-Activation-Scripts
Usage: paste this into Powershell, run.

irm https://get.activated.win | iex

>and Office?
Same link, select Ohook option
You can also use Office.com if your needs are very minimal
or try OnlyOffice/LibreOffice and set it to save in MSOffice file formats

>What version should I install?
>W10 Enterprise IoT LTSC 2021
Binary identical to Enterprise except no MS Store or apps
Preinstalled with: Edge & Win32 system apps
10 years support on "IoT LTSC", 5 for "LTSC"
Manual version upgrades
IoT LTSC 2022: https://pastebin.com/rHcgvYS7

>W11 Enterprise IoT LTSC 2024
Same as W10 version except:
UI written in React Native aka JavaScript including: Start, Taskbar and Explorer that lags even on i9s
Use only if you fell for the 12th+ gen Intel meme and need the new CPU scheduler
Wait for IoT LTSC 2027 if you can

>Installing apps on LTSC
Use WinGet/Scoop or install MS Store in CMD with: wsreset -i

>W11 Home/Pro/Education/Enterprise/Enterprise IoT
Preinstalled with: Edge, Win32 system apps, MS Store, OneDrive, Weather, Movies, Music, Candy Crush, etc
Auto-reinstalls apps on feature updates
1.5-3 years support
Forced version upgrades

>ISOs:
Windows IoT LTSC https://pastebin.com/ywkasnhM
Windows https://pastebin.com/nUMgAr0b
Office https://pastebin.com/G8w5qu6z

>Should I debloat / build my own ISO?
If you need to ask, then no.
If you know what you're doing:
https://pastebin.com/S5VKBirt

>Portable programs & reinstall-proofing
https://pastebin.com/Zh7WSbJ2

>Useful programs (new installs, essentials, utilities, adobe, etc)
https://pastebin.com/hN8nnwns

>I miss Windows##
OpenShell/RetroBar/WinClassic/StartIsBack

>LTSC Install Guides
https://rentry.org/windowsinstallguide
https://rentry.org/concisewin10
https://rentry.org/ltsc
https://rentry.org/fwtarchive

Previously on /fwt/: >>108115295
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why is win8 so shit
its even worse than win11
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>>108187082
Windows 8 was basically the beginning of the end. They had the bright idea to merge the desktop and tablet worlds together with the tablet world getting the lion's share. No one liked it, then made 8.1 to make people not as annoyed anymore, most still stuck to 7, then they released old 10, backported telemetry to 7, and took five years before it was actually usable.
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is everyone still using crystaldisk info?
apparently the installer had ads but i never seen them
i installed it with winget and from what i see it grabs the non ads installer
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>>108187653
CrystalDiskInfo is still the one most use, yes.
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>>108187653
yes im using it right this second
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>windows can't stop your volume device because a program is still using it
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>>108188611
How do I stop this shit?
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>>108188611
>>108188630
if it's mounted and has a drive name, you can see what's using it in resource monitor on the cpu tab under active handles, just search D:\ or whatever

if this is just a one-time thing you could also just reboot into safe mode, that usually works
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>>108187082
tabletization from retarded leadership at microsoft. they were chasing margins and wanted to capture the tablet and phone markets and so decided to cannibalize the thing that had been the centerpiece of their business for their entire existence.

i don't think it's worse than 11 though because 11 has been both actively and passively enshittifying it, actively because they keep adding garbage and passively because their retarded vibe coders are too stupid to make any changes without breaking a million things
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>>108186957
Alright, I installed 24h2 IoT LTSC Enterprise YAUFA. What next?

>>108187082
8.1 was comfy
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>>108189093
go to group policy and castrate onedrive and copilot. you should do it in group policy because it's the only thing windows ever respects. if you don't do it in group policy, even if you uninstall onedrive windows can randomly reinstall it whenever it wants and move all your files into it without you asking it to. and then if you uninstall it at that point, your files will be "in" onedriove and not on your system, so you need to reinstall onedrive and disable those locations as onedrive spots so it puts them back, THEN uninstall it.

anyway, short version, just shut onedrive and copilot down in group policy.
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>>108188885
I see index allocation and volume information.

I've read that indexing messes with external drives and gives you the pain in the ass about being unable to remobe the drive, why is this a thing?
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>>108189171
not sure, but you should be able to right click the drive and turn indexing off for it in the properties i think.

i think you can set which places get indexed in settings somewhere. not sure how it works or if it's fully respected.
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I love Windows!
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I am about to install windows. i have a old W10 LTSC version on a pendrive, should I update it? also IIRC you cant share screen via wifi on LTSC right? is there a way around that?
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>>108189236
if you're not particularly attached to 10, 11 enterprise iot ltsc is probably the best option these days. i'm not aware of any screen sharing limitations but then it's not a function i really use; depending on the specific use case, i bounce between rdp, parsec, and teamviewer.
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DONT DO IT DONT INSTALL WINDOWS 11 THE EXPLORER IS BUGGY AND BAD YES EVEN ON LTSC settings too
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>>108189638
there are like a trillion explorer replacements out there for any particular preference
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>>108189638
buggy how?
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>>108189093
Outside of openshell is there a way to unfuck 11 IoT's start menu?
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>>108189668
there are quite a few start menu replacers out there, i think explorerpatcher includes one as well. there's also startallback but that's paid. i'm sure there are more.
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>>108189655
a few things
I make a new folder, doesn't appear unless I hit refresh, same for renaming a folder or deleting or doing anything, you do something nothing happens, you have to hit refresh for it to appear
doesn't happen all the time, i just downloaded vokoscreen to take a video and it stopped
settings similar issue, if the settings screen is open, minimized or something, and I got to a place in settings from another location
for example, im in display setting, i minimize, i need to make a change to bluetooth and click show bluetooth devices from the tray, it will bring up that minimized setting screen but it will be frozen on display until you refresh it by maximizing it

the worst was yesterday I was trying to copy over data from on external drive to another, it kept starting and stopping over and over only doing a few mb at a time for a few secs and then stopping at 0 for like 2 mins. Unplugged them and tried on my windows 10 laptop and it worked fine, transferred at full speed fully. Only worked on windows 11 after a restart.
supposedly this bug happens on windows 10 too though
https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/answers/questions/3925758/transfers-speeds-drops-to-0-randomly

smb just stopped working randomly and I had to restart Workstation services, twice. 20 mins ago
actually yesterday I was having issue where it would hang for like 10 second when I opened file selection explorer in firefox, went away after the restart though
That stuff is probably just windows in general, but the explorer and setting being frozen unless you refresh the screens is windows 11.

Also another little thing, your shortcut icons on desktop can get bugged out and generate the little green checkmark that you get with files synced to onedrive. That frightened the fuck out of me, i had a very bad experience with onedrive before. All you had to do is refresh and it goes away though
https://old.reddit.com/r/computerhelp/comments/1bp47xw/green_check_marks_on_my_desktop_icons/
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>>108189843
nta but i haven't experienced any of this and i have 11 on a few different devices. you may wanna run sfc /scannow as admin and see if something's corrupt. not that i'd put it past microsoft to have bugs that only come out on certain setups, just saying it's not something i have happen on my setups so it might be worth trying sfc.

really the only problem i've experienced is that sometimes large files can act weird over smb sometimes, i think it's trying to prefetch them or something.

onedrive is super gay though and i recommend locking it down via gp
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>>108186957
>generates and registers a permanent legitimate license
What does "legitimate" mean in this context?
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>>108190187
A license that Microsoft recognizes as genuine. You basically trick Microsoft into thinking your previous activation was genuine.

old method
>During the official upgrade process from Windows 7 to Windows 10, if your copy of Windows 7 was activated, Microsoft provided a digital license for Windows 10 at no cost.

current method
>When Microsoft stopped the free upgrade, they began requiring a genuine, valid key in the ticket to authorize a digital license. In this new method, we use the Installation ID of a genuine, valid key. This is accepted by the server, allowing us to obtain a digital license for free. See the manual activation process in the section below to learn how to create working universal tickets.
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>>108189798
StartAllBack is based, makes 11 more bearable for me because I can't stand its awful UI design.
Then again, I hated 10's UI too because I thought it looked bland and soulless and preferred alternative shells over the actual shell since using StartIsBack so it doesn't matter anyway

I tried ExplorerPatcher and it caused me an issue where some programs would randomly crash and close on open/save dialogs on 25H2. Never again
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>>108190692
yeah i also had issues with certain things with explorerpatcher
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Should I stop using windows 10 and just upgrade to windows 11 for a while before burning everything the ground and going linux?
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>>108191529
If you're fine with 10, there's no need to switch to 11
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I've never seen anyone talk about PowerToys.
Is it bad or just niche?
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>>108189843
>I make a new folder, doesn't appear unless I hit refresh, same for renaming a folder or deleting or doing anything, you do something nothing happens, you have to hit refresh for it to appear
Just like 10 and even earlier
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>>108191746
its a pretty nice optional tool
https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/powertoys/
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>>108191529
get ESUs for windows 10 via MAS and you're good until they run out which is in like 2-3 years, there's no compelling reason to update to 11 if you have those (and i shill 11 constantly)
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>>108189843
>I make a new folder, doesn't appear unless I hit refresh, same for renaming a folder or deleting or doing anything, you do something nothing happens, you have to hit refresh for it to appear
doesn't happen all the time

I haven't come across the other issues but this is entirely true. Sometimes when I cut/copy a file from one directory to another it doesn't appear on the new directory until I refresh. It's even worse for smaller filers where you don't even see the copy window so it appears as if nothing happened. Very annoying bug.
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>>108191529
>and going linux?
For what purpose? You realize lintards have to pretend to like it, right? It’s good for servers and embedded, but horrible on the desktop for anything more than webdev.
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https://windhawk.net/mods/win11-old-taskmgr

for those who don't like the jeeted XAML nu-task manager. thank me later
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What is the best way to debloat Windows 11
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>>108193166
These days Winhance is pretty good. Easy to use.
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>>108193166
i like privacy.sexy

keep in mind many debloat tools have a very broad definition of bloat and you should generally research what you're disabling/removing and how whatever tool you use accomplishes it before you actually go through with any particular change. either that or have install media ready to reimage if you screw something up you need.
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>>108192907
>but horrible on the desktop
just say you got filtered. lets not pretend the hyprland/wayland/sway etc experience doesn't kick the actual shit out of winjeet.
graphics drivers actually have better perf on linux for games. linuxchads can't stop winning.
i'm only in this thread to get a winshit iso because there's a bios update i can't run on my laptop because HP gay and made it some weird impossible-to-use exe format. i'm going straight back to arch after that.
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Any real chance MS manages to revoke already activated licenses through Massgrave?
Either Windows or Office.
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>>108195225
Not at all. They're physically the same as actual legit licenses so if they ever decided to do that it would end up also revoking actual licenses too.
Literally all they could do is rewrite the entire Windows 10/11 activation stack and honestly they probably don't want to. Also they're a trillion dollar company, they aren't missing our 100 bucks to actually activate Windows "normally."
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>>108193166
In my opinion, an autounattend file is the best, especially if you don't want to lose any functionality. Though you can only use that when installing Windows, not after
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>>108195326
Which is why Winhance is so nifty because it's basically just the live version of what an autounattend file can do.
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How viable is Windows 7 nowadays?
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>>108195349
Basically nothing truly supports it anymore and it's not worth it, as its ESU updates have long since dried up.
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>>108195376
I have no clue. I guess themes were just more popular back in the day compared to now, especially with how MS has made it harder and harder to truly theme modern Windows without either disabling Secure Boot ergo making certain games not work anymore or using something like SecureUXTheme and not being sure if a coming update will break it somehow.
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>>108195349
If you have a need for legacy os you want to run it in a vm. Hopefully you've got 32gb+ ram, and 35gb+ space to spare.
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>>108195349
Ignore the faggot below you, Windows 7 works perfectly fine as long as you can do everything network-based through a browser instead of a client.
Firefox ESR is about to drop support but r3dfox and Supermium work perfectly. As do all the XP browsers like Mypal.

As far as offline software, you’ll either have to use vxkex (kernel extension) or do manual modding if you want to use the latest version (Qt6 or Python 3.14 for example). But since this is Windows just run older versions.

Remember, USB 3, NVMe, UEFI class 3, they’re all compatible with Windows 7 as long as you have the appropriate drivers / patches.
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>>108195650
We got a 7 truther here. Like use it if you want but just know you'll run into a snag every so often.
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>>108193166
gpedit.msc & services.msc
3rd party tools are a meme you save nothing but 5 minutes of work
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>>108196334
If doing it manually makes you feel better then you do you.
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>>108195650
ok but what if I want to play all those dx12 games in w7
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is there an archive of https://rentry.org/ltsc before the fag removed the ISO debloating section? I always followed this guide everytime I needed to do a fresh install of windows
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>>108195349
>torrenting Windows 7
Don't be retarded
https://massgrave.dev/windows_7_links
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>>108196672
nevermind I just found an old pdf of the guide on my drive
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>>108195365
>ESU updates have long since dried up
You could actually manually install updates until last month
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Installing Linux on Windows is easy
Installing Windows on Linux is not
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>>108198229
I am stuck on "install driver to show hardware" part of Windows 11 Setup.
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>>108196334
i mostly agree, sometimes the third party tools have a few things that are more difficult to get at but more often they just have a bunch of stuff that will break windows
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>>108198248
it do be like that. i went through the same damn thing. how you are 'actually' supposed to make a windows usb installer from linux is a big secret for some reason.
its easiest to just use a windows vm to write the install media if you dont happen to already have a windows machine running.
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anybody on windows 10 ltsc got the secure boot update?
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>>108198609
Yeah it was some time ago.
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Urgh.

"Platforms released in 2017 and earlier do not receive a BIOS update related to this change, because HP no longer supports those platforms."

Muh secure boot certificates. Glad I built a new PC, I guess I have to actually migrate all my productivity apps away from the 'ole Z840 and just keep it as muh Linux box.
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>>108198790
you can disable secure boot entirely. you might also be able to manually add the certs if it lets you add to the certificate store in the bios, many big manufacturers like hp do so.
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>>108198843
>you can disable secure boot entirely. you might also be able to manually add the certs if it lets you add to the certificate store in the bios

Perhaps. And perhaps it's time to put the wheezy old thing out to pasture.
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>>108198579
I finally managed to install Windows 11 on my computer, hoo boy that really was pain the ass.
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>>108198579
woeusb worked for me and there's always ventoy if you don't fear the botnet. but yeah, I have no idea why something so simple is still difficult. It's the uefi era, this bullshit should be over, it's just files on a disk now innit? why is it still hard to make something bootable.
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>>108195225
Why would they do that? You know GitHub is owned by Microsoft and so they could nuke Massgrave whenever they want? But they don't, because our data is far from profitable than whatever a license costs.
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>>108195225
they don't care. they would rather have people pirate their os than use an alternative. all they care about is that piracy is obscure and/or difficult enough that most people won't bother.
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>>108198579
>technology illiterates struggle with technology
shocking
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>>108199864
Fuck you nigger, installing Windows on Linux shouldn't be complicated.
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>>108199898
Maybe you should use professionally made or at least properly made hobbyist tools like Rufus instead of trash like dd that creates hybrid images by default or trash like WoeUSB that doesn't even consider the fact that the image contains files larger than 4GB yet still proceeds to flash as FAT32 and fails silently without telling you.
Of course, I shouldn't have to tell you this right? You're the all knowing technology experts here right?
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>>108200010
Rufus doesnt work on Linux smartass, I used Ventoy, at first it didn't work, I don't know the reason why it didn't work im gonna guess its because F6 files got corrupt but it did work after reinstalling F6 files. Its all good now, I got Windows 11 working.
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looks like if i force secure boot update on my dell i am getting
Computer\HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\SecureBoot at 16388

Computer\HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\SecureBoot\Servicing
ConfidenceLevel Under Observation - More Data Needed
UEFICA2023Error 2147942487
UEFICA2023ErrorEvent 1795
UEFICA2023Status InProgress
WindowsUEFICA2023Capable 2

from quick googling i can see: Error 1795 on Test VM – “Medium is write protected”
Meaning: Event ID 1795 indicates that Windows attempted to update a Secure Boot variable (DB, DBX, or KEK) in the firmware, but the firmware returned an error. In your case, the error text suggests the UEFI firmware reported the storage medium as write-protected.
the only thing i can think of that is write protecting these is 'UEFI capsule firmware updates' being turned off in bios
has anybody did this successfully on an outdated dell laptop (2017)?
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Is GenP safe?
I need to activate the latest version of Photoshop and all methods point to GenP but virustotal gives a bad score
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>>108200344
community score 5
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>>108200344
GenP and m0nkrus's releases are the go-to ways to crack Adobe stuff
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>>108200203
what steps exactly are you doing that produce this
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>>108200344
every positive result here is a heuristic result meaning they're analyzing the program's behavior and have determined it is doing something unusual enough to probably be malware. it's entirely possible for something non-malicious to be flagged through heuristics like this if, through its normal operation, it behaves in ways similar to malware. the tags are trojan, hacktool, and pua (which i think is potentially unwanted app); the only really worrisome tag is trojan and it could be getting flagged as one because it's modifying other software's files, which trojans often do to disguise themselves as legitimate software but cracks do to patch out activation checks.

some of the other tabs at the top there like behavior and details can provide a bit more info about specifically what it is doing. you shouldn't take my or anyone else's word for it and instead you should investigate for yourself, potentially test it in a sandbox to your satisfaction, and judge your own risk tolerance for something like this.
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>>108200660
>>108200899
>>108201252
will do thank you
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>>108195349
Viable with accommodations, though the hardware for it is gradually running out.
You can run Supermium to shitpost on 4chan if you really must. Software support is limited, unless you can procure older, Win7-friendly versions of whatever you want.
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THE DISCORD PROCESS PRIORITY KEEPS CHANGING WHILE IM PLAYING VIDEO GAMES AND CAUSING STUTTERING.

I'VE MANUALLY SET IT TO BELOW NORMAL, SET IT IN THE REGISTRY AND USED PROCESS LASSO TO DO THE SAME

IT STILL FUCKING TRIES TO SET IT AT ABOVE NORMAL/HIGH AND IT STILL CAUSES LAG, EVEN IF IT GETS SET BACK TO BELOW NORMAL INSTANTLY. THAT BRIEF LITTLE CHANGE IS ENOUGH TO STUTTER THE ENTIRE SYSTEM.

HOW THE FUCK DO I FIX THIS RETARDED BULLSHIT? I'VE TRIED EVERYTHING
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>>108201605
For like the past couple years I just run Discord through the web app and it's worked fine and never fucked with my performance.
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>>108201620
I've tried this but if I'm full screen in-game, it can't detect my push to talk key and there's no way I'm using open mic
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>>108201605
try disabling hardware acceleration in discord

if that doesn't fix it, reenable it because you want it on if possible, then disable gsync if you have that on. i sometimes have issues with the discord desktop app and gsync not working well together.

i think there might be some alternative discord clients out there too that you could try, i don't know any offhand but i know they're a thing
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>>108201633
Oh shit I forgot about custom clients, thank you
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Why did everything go wrong after Windows 7?

>UWP
>Microsoft Store
>Microsoft Edge was pretty cool only to be replaced by a Chrome Reskin
>Cortana
>Ads in start menu
>Windows Phone
>Microsoft Accounts
>Microsoft bought Skype
>Xbox Game Bar
>Games for Windows Live
>Bloatware — The new roaster of Windows 10 accessories had atrocious quality, couldn't be uninstalled, and hijacked file associations.
>Felt like beta testing
>comes with fucking Candy Crush preinstalled
>Windows 10 1507, 1511, 1607, 1703, 1709, 1803, 1809, and 1903 were slop until 22h2 released
>10 years of bug fixing
>Microsoft is trying to transform Windows into a “canvas for AI,” with new AI agents integrated into the Windows 11 taskbar
>Microsoft shut down Android app support on Windows 11 last year
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>>108195349
>>108195650
>>108196711
qrd best way to install windows 7 on modern pcs?
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>>108202614
Use the Simplix pack linked on the massgrave page to update your ISO (yes, you can activate your install with MAS TSforge, but updating W7 normally is slow, cancerous, leaves your install bloated, and you'll have to install the additional Server 2008 R2 updates manually)
Then just make a USB installer with Rufus
You might not be able to install W7 if your hardware is too new though
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9800X3D? XP? Just works
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>>108202874
Now install drivers for your 5080
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>>108202680
>Use the Simplix pack linked on the massgrave page to update your ISO (yes, you can activate your install with MAS TSforge, but updating W7 normally is slow, cancerous, leaves your install bloated, and you'll have to install the additional Server 2008 R2 updates manually)

How to make a prepatch iso with all updates and drivers?
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>>108203251
>all updates
That's what Simplix is for
>and drivers
You'll have to handle that yourself and download the drivers you need, because there are millions of possible hardware configurations

Basically you download Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 from Massgrave, and download the Simplix update pack from the link on the Massgrave page, then once both are downloaded, you drag and drop the Windows 7 ISO onto UpdatePack7R2, which will create a fully updated ISO
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>>108199692
to be fair assuming that everybody has at least one windows machine, even if an old laptop, is pretty safe. when i tell people i went back to windows after a decade of exclusivly linux they still dont believe it.
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>>108199692
everything besides windows isos are hybrid images which can just be written to a usb drive directly, this is only a windows problem
windows is also the only os, as far as i know, to not include a method of writing an image to a usb drive
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Should I bother building one of those MicroWin isos or use LGBT IoT 11 instead?
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>>108203569
Just install IoT LTSC 2024 then run Winhance on it
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>>108203574
Alright
Is there zero point in modifying the ISO then?
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>>108203586
Yeah, no point really.
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>>108186957
Hello
I got robbed and bought a Linux online. As soon as it arrives I am planning to turn it into Windows. Is there a big difference in performance from 10 to 11? I’d rather avoid 11 with all I heard
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>>108198579
for any retard who's curious and wants to learn https://github.com/pbatard/uefi-ntfs
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>>108203910
The same dev as Rufus's made this so NTFS USBs could basically work anywhere.
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>>108202510
i don't mind uwp/microsoft store. it sandboxes the application and generally handles its own upkeep which is occasionally useful and nice from a security perspective; it just sucks if you need to change something in the files because it's designed not to let you do that. but then you can just switch to a desktop version instead of a uwp version.

to answer the rest of your question though, 7 was designed to be the best desktop operating system microsoft could make, 8 was designed to try and force tabletization onto the desktop because they wanted to capture the mobile market and were cannibalizing their main offering to do so. 8.1 and 10 were fine imo, 11 suffered (more over time) because microsoft has slowly been ship of theseus'd and most of its code is now written by curry-americans or crappy llms.
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>>108203744
>Is there a big difference in performance from 10 to 11?
i think it's barely outside of margin of error. there's no problem with avoiding windows 11 for a few years if you want to, just grab win10 esus via MAS.

however, win11 iot enterprise is probably a better long-term solution. pretty sure it gets updates until like 2034, after which the upgrade to whatever the next iot enterprise version is should be fairly easy.
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>>108203963
Upgrading from IoT LTSC 2024 to 2027 will be as easy as just in-place upgrading with the ISO as it releases.
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I am on win 10 ltsc 1809 and after the new big aoe 2 update I can not run the game anymore.

Is there any way to upgrade to another win 10 ltsc while also keeping all my files?
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>>108203976
Get the LTSC 2021 ISO and use that to in-place upgrade using the setup.exe. Because it's going from LTSC to LTSC it'll keep all your stuff.
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>>108186957
I plan on returning to Windows from Linux, more specifically LTSC 2021 for now and just see how far can I go with it.
May I disable Windows Update and Defender entirely and install updates manually each month from an installer? Something like Simplix Update pack for Win 7.
I remember that I used WinUtil in the past to remove shit like Microsoft Edge, but with every update it would reinstall itself.
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>>108204228
Install LTSC 2021 and run Winhance on it. It can deal with many things within Windows in a cleaner overall package then WinUtil. Like you can use it to change how updates or Defender work.
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How do I get steam and discord working on windows 7?
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>>108203963
>>108203971
Alright I see some versions in the OP >>108186957
> >W11 Enterprise IoT LTSC 2024
> >W11 Home/Pro/Education/Enterprise/Enterprise IoT
Which one do people here recommend? My new computer is gaming-focused. Though also for some activities with 3D modeling like Blender if that matters.
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>>108203942
>generally handles its own upkeep
uwp apps are the only ones that ever broke on me. winget completely disappeared one day and still said it was installed. after looking it up this was apparently a common occurrence.
I'm sure it's a nice idea, but I think the remaining set of old white men at MS are only holding the line around win32 and the kernel, anything outside that defensible core is liable to be jeeted. Note that it was the ms store notepad that broke recently as well.
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>>108204539
feature upgrades often break a bunch of shit, enterprise iot ltsc doesn't get them and each version is supported for a very long time. of course this also means that in the rare case where there's something actually useful in a feature upgrade, you're not going to get it for a very long time.

i prefer the former even as a gamer but ultimately it's down to the typical beta vs stable situation
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>>108204437
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=coC-hseuK4I
You could try this for Steam. For Discord you could just run it in a web browser like Supermium or Firefox ESR.
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>>108204572
winget's in a weird situation because it's a subcomponent of "application installer" which itself is kind of a special case.

it's a situation where it has some good use cases but i wouldn't recommend it generally (and i don't use it for most things myself). i often use it for things i only begrudgingly have on my computer in the first place, like teams for example. i don't have to think about it, it just works and it's ready on the rare occasions i actually need it because it's updated automatically via the store. the main tradeoff with uwp apps is their data is locked down; that's good for security purposes but bad if you need to make changes. i ran into a problem with uwp f2k because i wanted to install some components but couldn't because the install directory was locked down. i just uninstalled it and installed the desktop version and haven't had problems since.

ms store is also nice for kiosk machines and other devices where you don't want the user to fuck with them and you would prefer to have them in service as long as possible without having to touch them. i'd bet it also plays pretty good with parental controls.
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>>108204650
this, winget's best function is winget install --id=Chocolatey.Chocolatey -e
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>>108204586
Alright IoT 2024 it is
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>>108201218
Set-ItemProperty -Path ‘HKLM:\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\SecureBoot’ -Name ‘AvailableUpdates’ -Value 0x5944

Start-ScheduledTask -TaskName ‘\Microsoft\Windows\PI\Secure-Boot-Update’
after reboot started that task once again
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>>108205036
double-check that you're running the latest bios that dell offers. even older out-of-service devices might get bios updates for this and it's even possible they just haven't gotten to yours yet. you might want to dig around the secure boot settings in your bios and see if there's some kind of switch that lets you change them.

in most cases as long as you're running the most recent bios version and you're on a version of windows that is still getting updates, windows update servicing should be handling it automatically. microsoft's guidance and alternative deployment options are outlined at https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/blog/windows-itpro-blog/secure-boot-playbook-for-certificates-expiring-in-2026/4469235

failing everything else, dell's bios settings should have an option to manually add secure boot keys, although it can be called something weird or different and you may have to dig around and hunt for it.
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>>108186957
I've been playing around with that tiny11 script made by ntdevlabs on github and was wondering how to add my own regedit entries that would usually be added to HKEY_CURRENT_USER so that a newly created account would already have those registry entries added to their HKEY_CURRENT_USER section?
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I swapped my FL Studio install to a new drive and a new OS. Most of my VSTs are detected, most of those don't work, and the few that do need to be reactivated. Should I attempt to salvage this, or should I go scorched earth and delete/reinstall everything?
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I need some help anons. I was gonna ask in /wsr/ but it won't let me post a thread so I'll do it here

Yesterday, there was a power outage and later when I started my PC the internet connection was faulty

Apps like Discord won't start, websites won't load, and not even the hour is synchronized correctly. The only thing that has any connection at all is the torrent client since I see it uploading stuff

What to do? I've tried to apply almost if not all solutions I found online to no avail. Other devices work just fine, it's only the PC with this issue (Windows 10 btw)
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>>108205668
search network reset in the start menu and it should bring you to the option to do that

can also try chkdsk /f on your os disk, will probably need to reboot for it to do the scan

also run sfc /scannow as admin and let it run, then reboot when it finishes. if it says it couldn't repair files you might need to try it again in safe mode or you might need to run dism /Online /Cleanup-image /Restorehealth in regular windows, let it finish (can take quite a while), and then try sfc again
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>>108205209
it's on the list of laptops that won't get bios updates for it
https://www.dell.com/support/kbdoc/en-us/000378734/microsoft-2011-secure-boot-certificates-expiration-for-out-of-scope-platforms-for-bios-updates
i guess i'll check these capsule updates when i get more time
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>>108205767
if it's definitely not getting a bios update honestly my advice would be to just disable secure boot unless you need it for a game with kernel-level anticheat. it's not worth the headache of getting into it further unless this is some kind of really strong requirement for you.
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>>108204572
>winget completely disappeared one day and still said it was installed.
this happened to me just yesterday
i use unigetui and i opened it and it was like "winget needs to be repaired" and it had to download it again because it was just gone. I was wondering where did ti go how is it just not there anymore. Luckily unigetui knows and take care of it otherwise i would have been very confused about what went wrong
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I remember back in the day XP had a telephone activator, but anyone who hosted it got nuked so hard there aren't even archives. I find the recent resurfacing of the activator suspicious but I can't find any old hats to talk about it to
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>>108205696
Thanks for the help. I tried all of this, but nothing's changed. Any other suggestions?
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>>108205668
>>108206356
UPDATE: I tried to download something with the torrent client and it works just fine. It's the rest of apps in my PC that don't have internet access
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>>108206641
are you sure this isn't just because your clock is so far off that certificates don't let you in?
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>>108206651
I don't think so, it only had an hour of delay before I changed it manually
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>>108206356
>>108206641
see if you can reach the following sites
https://ipv4.google.com/
https://ipv6.google.com/

and see if you can ping example.com and 1.1.1.1 from command prompt
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Cool how people make old Windows versions work on modern hardware
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whats the group policy to take control over my own computer windows chuds
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>>108206761
Alright, sorry if I took my time, I've been busy. It's set to Automatic (DHCP) and these are the results:
>https://ipv4.google.com/
>https://ipv6.google.com/
No success
>ping example.com
No success whatsoever
>ping 1.1.1.1
I tested it more than once. The first time I lost two packages out of four, but the other times I received all. I also tried it with 8.8.8.8 and while it wasn't working early today, it worked this time around
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>>108208050
it sounds like your dns provider might be fucked if you can ping 1.1.1.1 but none of the sites with hostnames are working. do you know how to set your dns servers? if so, try setting to 1.1.1.1 with 8.8.8.8 as backup, see if you can connect to sites after doing that
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>>108208286
Nothing, and I've already tried doing this a couple of times today
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>>108208464
could check to see if there's an update for the network driver assuming you have some way to get it on the machine like a flash drive

are other devices having issues connecting to the network or is it just this pc
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>>108186957
>W10 Enterprise IoT LTSC 2021
Does it work with hardware released after this specific version came out?
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>>108208571
probably varies by device, as long as there's a WDDM 2.7 or earlier driver available for the device it should work. over time fewer devices will support that feature version.
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>>108208537
>could check to see if there's an update for the network driver assuming you have some way to get it on the machine like a flash drive
Grabbed the software from the internet and updated it. Nope, that's not it
>are other devices having issues connecting to the network or is it just this pc
Only this PC
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>sorry your computer needed to restart
>diagnosing your pc
>C\Windows\System32\Logfiles\Srt\SrtTrail.txt
>can’t boot up windows
>exhausted literally all options
What the fuck man
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>>108186957
For the love of god, does anyone know how to make the vertical taskbar VERTICALLY scrollable, or know of a less buggy alternative to retrobar?
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wtf 2016 ltsb can get additional three years of esu https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/blog/windows-itpro-blog/plan-for-windows-server-2016-and-windows-10-2016-ltsb-end-of-support/4496136
fucking imagine w10 iot ltsc having eol in january 2035
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>>108209289
Man even fucking LTSB 2016 is getting extended support and Home/Pro only gets one year, at this point is ridiculous that they refuse to give the whole 3 years to consumers
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>>108209289
Feels pretty worthless though because barely anything runs on 2016 anymore.
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>>108209333
he said it's important for an hypothetical extension of the IoT LTSC support, which I think it's unlikely, by 2032 MS will just pull the plug and that's it

this extension it's mainly for enterprises who refuse to upgrade, maybe MS found that there's way too many companies still running LTSB 2016 and decided to also extend support there, which is funny imo, companies really hate upgrading.
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>>108209474
For a business with huge amounts of PCs it's just a complete fucking hassle to upgrade them all I'd say
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Guys,
icedrive vs. proton drive vs. pcloud vs. google drive vs. onedrive ?
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>>108209762
I like Proton Drive because of the native E2EE, but you can basically do that with something like Google Drive if you use Cryptomater.
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>open task manager
>There are a ton of things
Brain hurty, I've installed windows ltsc like 6 months ago and I would like to know if there is a way of going back to a "default" state with the OS, I don't know if I have garbage files or if my original shutput10 has been disabled.
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just got done building and setting up a new PC with my GF and when showing her how easy windows piracy is she looked at the script, pointed at "online KMS" and said "online kill myself? I know piracy is immoral but that's just rude!"
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Can you still use Windows 10 after it stops receiving updates? Like for example, can you browse internet? I know there's an Anon who still uses XP and browses with R3dfox or whatever that browser is called.
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>>108211302
the limit is up to date browser
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>>108208952
have you tried doing shit manually?
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>>108211530
I’ve tried everything except take parts out
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>>108211302
I mean some rare people are still using 7 well after the ESU updates it got dried up. For 10 as well, it'll basically be when web browsers stop releasing versions that support it and when you need to use alternatives like Supermium to keep using the net properly, but that'll be by like by the early 2030s.
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>>108208827
try booting into a linux live environment; if it's still having issues there, it's probably the network device itself that's failing. was this a wifi or wired connection you were having issues with?

if it works fine in that environment, there's something funky with your windows setup that's beyond me; i'd back up your shit and either try a major version upgrade or a repair install as a last-ditch hail mary to avoid doing a reimage.
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>>108208952
make a windows install usb of the same major version (i.e. windows 10 23h2, use an installer for that version), boot into the install usb, and run sfc against your offline windows environment using the usb as the repair source. i don't remember the exact command offhand but any llm could tell you it.
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>>108210909
just google executable names to see what they are, you can use autoruns to delete or temporarily disable entries you don't care about
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>>108211302
it gets esus for another like 2.5 years, after that you can still use it but over time you're going to run into more and more difficulties getting it to work with everything you want to do. newer peripherals won't work, software will slowly drop support, you'll have to hunt for more and more workarounds for shit, etc., and ofc that's not getting into the security aspect.
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Posting to see if posting on Firefucks works
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>>108212409
I tried with Windows 11 but it didn’t work at all maybe it was the wrong version. I’ll try to do windows 10
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>>108212760
my bad, i actually misremembered the steps a bit, it's been a while. you need to use dism to repair the recovery store with the usb's environment, then run sfc on the offline thing... copilot got it right i believe

https://copilot.microsoft.com/shares/nHfcRfVuxY9uJUw91jJbR
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>>108212607
werks on my machine
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>>108212828
Man I hate being computer illiterate. I’ll give it a try though if that fails off to a repair shop I guess
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>>108213092
make sure you identify which drive letter is which, they will frequently be different than they normally are when you're in a usb environment like that
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>>108212607
There's no reason why it shouldn't.
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I'm getting a ton of lag when I open certain folders, particularly those with a lot of images like screencap folders. Do I need to clear an image thumbnail cache or something?
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>>108213476
Sort files into folders full of smaller amounts of files, Windows 11 sucks a bit at this versus 7, 8, and 10.
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>>108213447
There was spur.us or whatever its called problem
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>>108213905
When? I must have not been here that day, and it had to be pretty recent and brief, or I would have noticed.
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>>108213953
I think it was yesterday or 2 days ago, I remember not being able to post because of that shit.
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>>108213102
Nothing worked so I gotta take it in for repair fucking damn man
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>>108213476
Depending on what you mean by "ton of lag", that just sounds like windows 11 explorer being shit, this is normal. Don't open folders with a lot of images.

>>108214337
all they're gonna do is reinstall while having a giggle looking at your files, you can do the former yourself for free.
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Just noticed my 7490's screeen is a touchscreen after nearly a year with it, lol
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>>108214706
some p15s have a matt display that is also touch.
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>>108213770
>>108214363
Little bit annoying since everything gets dumped in one place but fair enough I suppose. Guess I'll have to sort everything out.
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>>108212487
Most of them are antivirus defender crap or necessary stuff for windows. I've heard that crypto miners and such aren't dumb and they masquerade their malware as one of those processes anyways.
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>>108214795
i think he was just worried about performance and not malware. yeah, malware often pretends to be legitimate software, sometimes it even injects itself into legitimate software and the legit thing can still run. it's down to how much work any given malware author wants to put into it; most of the time it's more effort than it's worth if you're just trying to cast as wide a net as possible.
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>>108214706
maybe that's why tim cuck doesn't care about them for the macs
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>>108216130
wat
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>>108217157
I still remember when Titus freaked out and spread fake news that Copilot was a dependency for File Explorer, multiple people pointed out that it was not the case and he just excused himself in another video saying "ok it doesn't... but in this very specific and unlikely scenario it does break explorer!!", that made me lose trust in him because even as a Windows wizard he decides to appeal to the hivemind of Linux cultists
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>>108217157
The guys that actually know what they're talking about strike back



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