>no op making fun of jeets
#NotMyEdition

>>108187373
This general fucking sucks
Every thread is the same shit over and over again
>My job is terrible
>I hate indians
>I want to quit my job!!!
Don't you losers ever talk about anything positive? Any ideas, visions, interesting trends in the field? Or is it all just bitching and moaning nonstop?

>>108187382
gunny euh

>>108187382
Kek

>>108187382
It's just a venting thread nigga no there's no positivity other than a raise this industry and world and life sucks now fuck off

I sure do love the useless tards that decided to start raiding this general all the time

>>108187482
SAAAAAAAR DO NOT RAID THE TECH WORKER GENERAL. SAAR.

>>108187382
Imagine caring about anything. Software engineering is grifting at its core anyway, most startups I've worked at ended up burning investor money and failing.

how do you move out of your parents? if i move out i literally have nothing else to save for hangouts/entertainment except rent and food

but i dont want to go into 2028 or 2030 still living with my parents.

>>108187530
welcome to the permanent underclass

>>108187515
That’s how i would do it

>>108187535
If i start drawing porn i have to be able to live on my own right

>>108187595
>drawing
No because that’s entirely outsourced to AI.
You will need to become an eboy or thirst trap or catfish findom or something. All these professions can’t be outsourced to AI or jeets because they both give massive icks to your prey. They need a white predator to get their fix.

>>108187616
Lame response . Kys

>>108187568
It's a stupid question anyway, and Claude gives you the benefit of the doubt and doesn't assume you forgot that you should take your car with you if you want it washed.
In its "head" you made a statement about needing to wash your car and then an unrelated question of wether you should walk or drive to a place that's 20 meters away.

>>108187382
blessed thread

>>108187530
I moved out in 2014 when I was 21, even moved to a different city. Had 3 months of expenses saved up and no job. I wasn't even a developer back then and only worked shitty jobs. I needed roomates of course because I couldn't afford rent by myself.

Moving out is something you either have the balls to fucking do it or be a coward and don't. Freedom has a price when you're poor. Pay the price or remain a bitch momma boy forever.

>>108187761
Based Eren

>>108187761
Good goy, make sure to tip your landlord

>>108187501
Imagine being this demotivated when tech just keeps improving to make our lives better and AGI is right around the corner

>>108187761
Kek you are pathetic. Balls? You didn't take a real risk, your parents wouldn't let you starve if it goes wrong. You are just like those rich kids who think they're smarter than everyone else and brave daring entrepreneurs.

You are a literal meme.

Like the other anon said, don't forget to tip your landlord, goycattle.

>>108187811
This is /twg/ - the thread for employed people.

they want us to train an llm to replace us lmfao

>>108187959
Train it on twg but unironically

>>108187959
and you'll do it anyways lol

>>108187852
i am employed retard. just not proud of being a super hero who was brave enough to leave his parents house. that's what's pathetic.

and to top it off you call me unemployed, what if i was? you are such a goy cattle

>>108187966
yeah why not? they cant replace him anyway, and if they could they'd do it anyway

we also constantly do work that replaces what we used to do

>>108188032
Better tell your mommy.

so i should start filling in my github with projects made with claude to secure an internship next year as a freshman?
Im taking all the math courses in CC.

>>108188048
lol

>>108188045
kek you really are cattle. so easy to trick.

jannycels keep catching career ending cortisol spikes over utwg
you hate to see it

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>>108187350

>>108187382
>Complains that others are negative
>Doesn't post anything positive himself
>Entire post is negative
Be the change you want to see.

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>DUDE JUST WAGECÜCK FOR 50 YEARS LMAO

>>108188119
the neets shall inherit the earth

>>108188107
you didnt tell chatgpt you're going to wash the car, you could work there

this is also not proof of anything you midwits. computers have a history of making hard things easy and vice versa. much less powerful computers could do impressive maths and not be even close to recognizing what a photo is

>>108188119
at least we masturbate to hot women that we see in person

>>108188146
Thanks chatgpt very cool

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>>108188146
FINE!

>>108188071
You forgot a few keks and goys, your post is not heckin based and redpilled xd enough mommy boy.

>>108188107
>I made a stupid incomplete question and forced the AI to make an assumption is AI dumb guys xd zd xd

>>108188219
>>108188208

>>108188119
look at the pretty light show

>company financial results go up
>it's bad
"oh no"
>it's good
"oh no"

>>108188119
Okay but people pay $150 to watch a light show like that in Disneyland.

>>108188256
I pay my egirl $150 to have her laugh at me and call me pathetic and i nut so hard every time

how do i learn python in a week

>>108188360
pick up the flute

>>108188360
why would you want to learn python?

>>108188336
Why do that when you can hire a non-white and scream racist words for free at Walmart?

>>108188426
money

>>108188428
*hire a non-white to mop your floors

>>108188360
Ask what your 12 year old self really wants. What kind of shit did you do back then without thinking of career and all that crap that you can do for hours weeks months without feeling "ughh fuck this i rather goon and scroll"?

>>108187373
speking of which, apparently janeets deleted /utwg/
hi /twg/, and why are you not subtly sabotaging the nonwhites on your team? do you LIKE working with shitskins?

>>108188480
nta but I just wanted to die back then

>>108188480
I wanted to be Michael Jordan. but, now I realize he's a pedo, so I'm glad I never met him.

>>108188480
can I get this post in english

>>108188430
lol

>>108188480
Playing on my gameboy?

>>108188504
Why do you indians always think you know our language better than we do?

>>108188481
I am by jobhopping

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Bad morning sirs…

>>108188588
the judaic-jeet world order is collapsing

>>108188480
>Ask what your 12 year old self really wants
to dump 2,000 hours into some shitty p2w mmo

It's so perfectly boomer that they believe the ideal self is a childish mind.

>>108188588
The whole Epstein affair has done more to humanize Bill Gates than anything else. Antivaxxers thought he was putting microchips into the covid vaccine when really Gates is just afraid of diseases after he caught an STD from a Russian whore.

>>108188642
I fail to see how bill gates' penis really is tech related.

>>108188480
Nta but my 12 yo self loved to doodle and draw
Later my 16 yo self realised that would be a retarded path to follow as a career, being a huge gamble where losing means starving, and went for STEM
And that was before image gen was even a thing
No regrets, following what you love sounds nice but isnt always viable

>>108188719
Uhuh, and did you get a job now? I feel retarded going to compsci.

>still no proper op
>no list of links and resources, general actually relevant tech worker stuff
>aislop discussion image
>every image in the thread is about an ai chatbot discussion instead of anything relevant to tech workers
Why keeps letting shitposters and spammers take over the thread?

>>108188719
Nobody is actually really starving or living on the streets this is a meme bullshit thats been spreading around for years from irresponsible faggots.

Whoever paid for your education wont let you ended up begging on some alley. At best you will get put in a job outside of what you've been studying all those 4 years, at best you know somebody who can get you job through networking and being buddy buddy

Whatever subject anyone studies never actually matters. Likeability and general upbeat attitude is. There are lots of government schools here in my country with promises like 3 year diploma and you'll be a part of a ship crew but that doesn't mean you'll be handed $100k on the get go. Everybody toils, i dont know about you but i rather toil on the shit i like.

Twenties are bullshit. After 30 is whatever.

I genuinely believe niggas who says "dont make X your job or main source of income! You'll end up hating it" are just sore losers who never tried anything in life and rather bitter when someone else gets to live however they want doing stuff they like

>>108188719
The ones with jobs now are the one studying psychology and humanities and shit

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>finally get a call back
>it's a job across the country in a city with a high as fuck cost of living where the pay sucks ass

>forced to install windows
>they bake ads into the OS now
christ

>>108188751
define "proper OP"

write a "proper OP" right now

>>108188219
>>108188146
How many R's are in the word carberry?

>>108188726
WEE WOO WEE WOO UNEMPLOYED SCUM DETECTED

>this time, we shall use C++
>noooo that is too complicated, we MUST write C code but set the file extension to cpp
why are embedded boomers like that

>>108188623
>12 years old
>some shitty p2w mmo
zoomer spotted

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>>108188815
You'd know what one looks like if you were actually a /twg/ user.

>>108188815
you must be new here

>>108188947
>>108188949
>Tech News
Summarized: AI
>Software Dev and Programming
Summarized: don't bother, AI
>IT Ops and Infra
Summarized: don't bother, being raped by Microsoft backed AI
>Career advice
The only advice you need is to get out of tech

Wow, would you look at that. Seems like "a proper OP" doesn't exist anymore

>>108188947
just fuck off autist
nobody needs those

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A local business owner commissioned me to construct a custom 'Open'/'Closed' sign for their business. Today I brought him samples of the backboard I'd be using, a palette of colors as well as just an ebony stain on a scap piece of the same backboard, and 3D printed models of the letters for the sign in the exact font that his business uses for their logo and on their website, with offset and raised edges for ease of coloring to give it a 'white bordered' appearance.

He was ecstatic with the WIP I brought. Anybody else do weird shit like this in their free time? This is my first time (doing something for someone else), but then again I've never advertised or told people I'd do things like this and he just asked me out of the blue.

I think the process has been fun and its a nice break from staring at lines of code.

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>>108189009
>>108188995
>hey guys I obviously don't belong in this thread but let me come in here and tell you none of its traditions and resources belong and the thread should just be shitposting, india memes, and ai startup advertising
Get out.

>>108189044
SAAAAAAAAR GET OUT SAAAR

anybody else here completely losing their fucking minds because wfh means that you can't look at your female coworkers' visible panty lines for eight hours a day?

japanese workplace panty fetish videos are the only thing that keeps me from just ending it all right fucking now.

i can't reconcile a god that would invent panties and the frumpy hr moms that wear them underneath see-through khakis with a god that would invent remote work and prevent me from loitering in the break room and ogling those frumpy hr moms and their panty lines. god is dead. please give me an in-office job

>>108189044
>its traditions
i've been here longer than you
you're the one stirring this useless discussion
nobody needs any of those links they are useless

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>>108189094
No, you haven't. This is what you're defending, by the way. This isn't /twg/, it's a shitpost general. It's /b/.

>>108189090
Creep.

>>108189107
that has nothing to do with the links in the op

>>108189107
SAAAAAAR

holy mother of zoom zoom this entire website has been completely taken over

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>company has the dumbest most cumbersome git-commitizen prompt
>holds your hand through 5 or 6 questions that are never relevant
>"did you update the docs?" no it's not doc-time I'm just committing my work
>tech lead announces that we're going to integrate agentic commits so we don't have to write the commits at all
I just want to write down my thoughts so the next developer knows why I made those changes jesus fucking christ

SAAR DO NOT THE ZOOM! BITCH BLOODY

I don't do a lot of work at my job so I shouldn't be complaining but I have a tendency to get so fucking pissed off when they give me out of scope work. Like a lot of the time I'm handling support of the systems for our operational team and my manager and his boss always seems to ask me on initiatives to help their team out and it's like for me to figure out what the best way to do their operations (oh but you can't talk to them because then it gets political). Most of the time I can dodge this shit or give vague answers but really the fact they throw this my way feels fucking insulting and it pisses me off. Probably taking it too personally but come the fuck on, why are we always asking the carpenter on a recipe for making a cake?

>>108189353
they sounds like they look up to you and think you're smart and like getting your input on things

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>>108187558
This is giving me war flashbacks of needing to use a bugged copy of Excel on the school computers for several assignments. I've got no idea why or how, but it would sort and autofill numbers in alphabetical order. I'm convinced someone fucked with the code on the school server.

Kind of a dumb question, but how did you guys decide what niche of "tech" you wanted to work on? I'm leaving college soon with a bachelors in cybersecurity and although my coursework has been primarily on defensive security I still feel overwhelmed with the vast amount of paths there are to take. does the path become more defined as you work in the industry?

>>108189396
You need to work first to find out what you like and are good at. Take a job, do it for a couple years. If you like it, great. If not, or if you suck at it... well, now you know what to avoid when you start looking for another job.

>>108189396
Great question! Luckily it has a very easy answer
You should do something like this:
>apply to 100 cybersec jobs
>get rejected from everything
>get shoehorned into helldesk
Welcome to tech, brother!

>>108189360
don't stroke my dick I know fucking nothing about this field and asking a carpenter for cooking advice is fucking stupid

>>108189396
I kinda thought it would be nice to become a programmer and somehow I became one thanks to my INT 6.5/10 and LUCK 6.5/10 stats.

Jeets at my workplace have taken to using "tl;dr" in place of "summary" for whatever reason. I find it hilarious they'll send critical reports with "tl;dr" at the start.

>>108187382
>talk about anything positive
after jeet incompetence bankrupts tech, things will get better

>>108187805
what in tech keeps improving? I'm drawing a blank here: rundown pls.

>>108189695
porn

>>108189396
whatever i got a job on, back when i was looking for my first job, i used to say in interviews "i prefer algorithms and data handling over UI", but noticed that was becoming a problem, so started saying I prefer whatever the job position was about, and got a frontend job. i ended up enjoying it. now i've been working web frontend jobs for like 9 years. its actually cool and not easy or dumb like some people think

I'm at a company party. Hiding in a corner and waiting until I can go home.

>>108189396
applied to a DevOps job in my second year of college with zero expectations because thanks to my experience with the usual /g/ ricing and tinkering faggotry I knew my way around Linux, which is something not many people in the market could say at that point in time
impressed some clueless people during the interview, got the job, started learning about all the tooling and what that job actually meant on the fly, ended up liking and sticking with it
was a bottom of the barrel job that paid store cashier-tier money but I still consider myself lucky, don't know how many of these opportunities are left nowadays

AI did nothing for my productivity but revolutionized my gooning

>>108189802
bro just go home, fuck them

if you want to go home, just go home. you are not cattle.

what's the worst they can do? give you shit like "ohh you're leaving so early? i thought you cared about this company!" or "welll you are not socializing enough anon?" that kind of turboormie filth is easy to handle. tell them a relative has cancer and you're going to see them. they will be too scared to mess with their rules and script to even talk back at that. they will submit to you if you say that, and then you can play vidya and goon at home.

>>108189845
The yearly bonus thing is just around the corner. I have to attend the clown shown.

>>108189695
AI has been improving non stop

>>108189859
shit

yeah i guess that makes sense. i would never be able to play the goycattle for an entire year though. i've never gotten any kind of bonus or raise other than when i was very young and naive. i get raises by job hopping now

anyway maybe you can take some creepshots of the foids for us

>>108189873
My goal has been to get bonus and quitting. That's the only thing that keeps me from snapping.

>>108189894
what are you doing to prevent them from thinking you're "muh quiet"?

you could talk to some foids to terrorize them by not being a chad (unless they're from HR of course)

>>108189914
I don't care what they think about me.

>>108189928
what about the bonus then

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>>108187350
>be me
>fresh out of uni (2 years ago)
>finally found a job that's not a temporary subsidized government job (1 year ago)
>boss wants us to use more and more AI during development.
>realize I just don't care anymore
>all my worries about "oh what language are you gonna use, oh i need to learn this framework, I need to do this or that" are all nonsense
Just gonna keep programming in C/C++ using software I like, make the games I want to make. Until i get fired. Worst case scenario i live off benefits in a tent with my laptop which is more than enough. I barely get paid more than the benefits anyway(most of the extra money I make, I pay back in taxes)
Fucking shit ass industry/economy.

>>108189941
I don't think they will not give me bonus for being too quiet.

>>108189965
brutal

this is boomers fault btw

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I need to slop together a visually impressive demo for a realtor website, what's the preferred slopping method these days? Antigravity? Cursor? Claude Code on VSC? Lovable? v0?
Don't do webshit so I have no clue.

>>108190004
slopping? kek if only VSC even worked properly. they're fucking it up with the latest updates and the usual autocomplete we had since forever is not even working properly

as to slopping (though right now that's besides the point, even the basics are not working properly), my favorite method is the company's AI, it has chatGPT 4o which is an old model, but it has the upside that i can ask it things specific to this company, and give it company code without leaks, so that's the one i used, however they just removed my access for some retarded reason

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holy fuck i hate this god damn job so much. 90% of the work is dealing with broken internal tools and pipelines and shit. and then also our product is completely broken most of the time and customers bitch constantly. and customer support people are god damn useless and can't read basic documentation and error messages to help customers. also they stuck me alone in a corner of the office with some other teams where i sit nowhere near anyone that i actually work with, so i spend the entire day alone, which sounds nice but after a year of getting nasty looks it gets old. also our new manager is fucking useless. already decided i'm quitting either tomorrow or monday

>>108190027
>however they just removed my access for some retarded reason
4o got discontinued recently.
It was scheduled for the chopping block last year but they postponed it because thousands of women were using it to roleplay their werewolf vampire boyfriend Jayden on their ChatGPT app.

>>108190058
no but they have their own here, the thing is, they made it for the dev team only, and i told them, "why did you revoke my access? this was great", and the lead AI dev said that it was accidental but it is meant for us to use for development,, and to just send an email and they'll give me access, however these guys are slow as fuck so i still have no access

>>108190058
>thousands of women were using it to roleplay their werewolf vampire boyfriend Jayden on their ChatGPT app
this is so fucking awful btw because they'd rather do that than give incels a chance

>>108188146
>>108188219
This is the problem though. If a layman came to you with something that 'sounds just about right', or had some weird phrasing, you'd be able to say "oh, you mean this right? yea, we can do that".

This is why LLMs are such a pain in the ass to work with, they're like a junior that never actually retains information while also not totally speaking english.

>>108189090
I have neither wfh nor females in my office :/

>>108188219
>and forced the AI to make an assumption is AI dumb guys xd zd xd
LLMs not being able to understand context and sarcasm is indeed very important to show they have no actual cognition or understanding at all.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cooperative_principle

>>108189986
we are stuck like this until the gerontocracy dies

>>108189669
This is what happens when jeets learn English on 4chan and reddit.

>>108189802
I'm also pathetic like that. But over time you'll learn to acknowledge that you're pathetic and grow comfortable with it.

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>it's another episode of the csuite not fucking off and letting me do my job
I really fucking hate working in a startup
I actually miss the corpo grinder, it was actually comfy compared to this shit

Unemployed again. How's the market going boys?

>>108190392
Pretty terrible, location location location and networking is still the play.

>be turd worlder
>be boom boom tard parents
>i have experience in 2 different jobs
>one job only pays me $100 every 2 months and i worked there for 12 months
>one job pays me whatever and i worked there for 4 months. I remember only getting around $300 from that job. But it has more bullshit hours
>both onsite
>i constantly tell them "mom dad there are bullshit jobs out there like internship that only pays $100 a month and that has to be onsite. I know our country minimum wage is $300 but thats the truth. Transportation for 22 days cost $100, and meals for 22 days cost $100. Why cant i just do an art business at home that nets me $100 a month? Or maybe a remote internship? At least it's a start and i dont have to get tired doing commute and no time for hobbies / thinking about other source of income. I cant move out too. To move out at least i need to gain 3 years of experience first and a job that would pay me $500"
>they never fucking listened or understand. Or they would say "yeah ok understandable" but then make a huge fuss about it trying to stir a debate every single week.
>their favorite phrase is "you need to get out of the house." Or "stop saying we dont respect you while you still need food, place to sleep, and internet" or they would give me some "errands" outside of my main job like having to make a 200 pages document or a website for their blogs or something. Each time i worked on it for like a month it never gets anywhere, it doesn't continue so i cant put it on my CV, i never get a compensation, and if i bring that up "shut up, go make money elsewhere, this is your fault for being useless." Or "tee hee sorry son the one who gave me this task actually doesn't give me any budget"

I genuinely dont feel safe around them. What the fuck should i do? By god im trying to get money but i keep getting harassed on weekends and evenings when i try to rest and shit. Why are they so cruel? Why are boomers and gen x like this?

>>108189723
porn peaked around 2015, now it's just degenerate trash
>>108189871
I don't see it. How so?

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Projects in a few years won't be code. They'll just be prompts, which are just ideas and specs. Pull requests will just be modifications to the prompt. If you want to be employed, learn prompt engineering not coding.

>>108189396
all the "niche" shit is fake and gay
real developers write code and then do all the "niche" shit themselves when the nichefags plot on how to get the developers laidoff for making the nichefags look fake and gay.
the industry is fucked. switch majors to a different engineering field and not EE, that is fucked too.

>>108190487
Oh yeah right this so much. I used to be a simple frontend dev and now I'm supposed to do fullstack + devops and everything else too and our management doesn't like AI anymore so that got banned too.

>>108189396
Oh shit, nevermind, I see your major is in cybersecurity... so you have a Bachelor's in being fake and gay. I guess find a job that improves your skills at blaming other people for your own incompetence.

>>108190412
Just saw a post in LinkedIn saying "DevOps is dead." Is McDonald's still taking applications?

>>108190499
the line must go up buddy :-)
meanwhile the team has recruited the 6th foid who is there for the express purpose of looking pretty

>>108190514
DevOps isn't dead at all. It's still one of the most gatekept parts of the industry with you getting lucky to be onboarded into it via internal moving, its just that companies don't think they need that many people for the roles (they do, which is why software has gotten genuinely worse across the board since like 2022).
Even in europe, where there's a bunch of tenured people who should have some pretty good job security, I've seen banks and other roles open for DevOps. It's actually more common than software developer roles, and if you somehow have the experience and you're under 30, I think they'd hire you on the spot. Of course, that requires some good networking to even get those skills/certs in the first place.

>>108190522
We don't have any pointless roles here because our management is openly sociopathic.

>RTO 5 days a week
god i fucking hate upper management so much i can't wait for AI to replace these fucking fags

>>108190541
yeah but can you imagine the talmudic endorphin rush as you see the goycattle slaving away? can't get that with remote work

>>108190571
you can't even do that because of the dumbfuck cubicles. even if those didn't exist, i will come up with 500 excuses while i'm fucking around on my phone. "code's compiling", "waiting on a process to finish", "waiting for response from x". fucking try me, cocksuckers.

not even happy about it being friday
too tired to do anything
next week it starts all over again and again and again

>>108190594
g'day mate

>>108190539
real devs do their own DevOps. I don't need some impostor pretending to automate shit that I will actually automate.

>>108190594
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2eXU2p982GQ

>>108190541
>RTO 5 days a week
JFL over

>>108190606
>40 years
haha i wish

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>writing AI tool for CIO
>emergent property where LLM calls result in the application now doing all sorts of neat things without me even telling it to do it
I have no idea what I'm doing but this is so cool

>>108190539
DevOps in my experience is being the janny - i.e. doing everything that the devs don't want to do

>>108190621
I have a feeling that the models haven't really become much smarter but rather tool integration has improved to such a large degree that models can really shine to their fullest potential.

>>108190630
do you even code bro?

>>108190651
I have never touched business logic code in my life, across multiple jobs

>>108188119
this pleases the jew, all those mortgages, divorces, car loans...

>>108188480
>Ask what your 12 year old self really wants
play Sonic games and listen to guns n'roses all day

>/utwg/ nuked again
GEEEEEG

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The inventor of C# thinks this

>>108190786
As a C# dev, I wouldn't trust a goddamn thing he has to say

>>108190793
>As a C# dev
proof?

>>108190786
who the fuck is "Ryan Dahl"? the creator of C# is Anders Hejlsberg

>>108190786
>>108190803
Ryan Dahl is the nigger you can blame for Node.js, not anything to do with C#

>>108190808
both are functional languages

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>>108190786
i don't understand ai accelerationists because they all seem to operate under the assumption that humans operate in rational ways and will always choose the most efficient option when humans for a long time have not done that at all
it's like if i came up to you and said why are you still cooking and eating food? i just have an iv hooked up with all the nutrition i need and now i can focus on the more important parts of my life
people are still writing cobol for god's sake, these guys are fucking delusional

>>108190816
He is still factually not the inventor of C# you lying nigger and/or kike

>>108190823
you are unemployed

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>>108190522
That doesn't have to be a bad thing if you live in the right country.

>>108190825
no

>>108190824
>>108190835

I absolutely hate terraform

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I don't know if Opus 4.6 is better than a software developer
I do know Opus 4.6 is better than a me, because I lay in bed for 5 hours of my workday, 4 of which I spend rotting 1 I spend jacking off

>>108190823
It really strikes me as some weird individualistic outlook that computer programmers are just simply guys who sit at computers and do nothing but write code. Motherfucker, I wish that was my job, but it ain't. Like maybe 40% of my job is that, and unless you manage to build a robot that can do the other 60% that isn't programming and interacting with a bunch of bullshit I have to update and understand and infer what needs to go through unit testing and adapt user stories (not create them, which my company's suits don't understand), then nothing is going to change at all.

>>108190786
>still code but not write syntax directly

this unironically makes sense, but, i wonder how he thinks that would work, because software development is very particular, there's a syntax for a reason

i think he means it and is not trying to sell something like sam altman, because he is not saying anything to appeal to masses who only see what's spelled out to them, such as "this is the end of society as we know it, it's advancing so fast!!", so i think he is probably sincere, but i dont get it

maybe a kind of collaborative thing where AI does most of the coding and there's a dev giving instructions along the way, like a kind of architect. considering we never even type the full names of variables, this probably wouldn't save that much time even if it sounds like it would change everything

>>108190934
>I do know Opus 4.6 is better than a me
?? wtf kind of coding do you do

AI never does anything right for me, i am using gemini pro btw

>>108189396
Coding, because I thought I wouldn't need to talk to people, but I didn't foresee all the fucking meetings

>>108189396
>decide
lmao
I applied to lots of things and the highest paid offer at the time was "devops engineer"
Since then I am stuck in infra/SRE/etc hell

>>108191037
>maybe a kind of collaborative thing where AI does most of the coding and there's a dev giving instructions along the way, like a kind of architect
Even so, you'd get better results out of a junior. I don't get it. AI's usefulness stops when I try and do anything but boiler plate with it. The "edge cases" that a lot of people claim are sometimes the crux of the majority of the work, there's that context its missing.

>>108190004
Replit werks
If you straight up want to copy a website from a URL then Lovable because it has extremely aggressive and unhinged behavior.

I'm gonna go to a museum tonight to get off my computer for a change

not sure if it'll be fun

somehow the hashicorp CEO hashimoto only spends 4 hours a day on screens??? I wish he elaborated on that.

Six months of unemployment now

>>108190450
That's not something you learn.
It's not engineering either.

>>108189807
>was a bottom of the barrel job that paid store cashier-tier money but I still consider myself lucky, don't know how many of these opportunities are left nowadays
Not many, but I think there are some people who are coming in and need to admit to themselves that working for cashier-tier money might not be a terrible thing for the experience. I know that depends on your money/family situation, but 2-3 years in a job like that and yea it'll suck but at least you'll have upwards trajectory.
Market fucking blows ass but you have to do it, feel like some people aren't adapting to it.

>>108191169
Could be worse. Could be me sitting at 2 years.

>>108190444
>porn peaked around 2015, now it's just degenerate trash
Truer words have never been spoken on /g/ than the ones under these repeating numerals.

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>>108191166
ok here we go

he's busy with family and already made his baggies from a hard grind

>>108191158
No, a junior isn't that fast.

A junior has different strengths and weaknesses from AI, he will need a LOT less hand holding than AI (or rather, what I am imagining AI will become in the following years, because right now there's hype but it never gets things right) but also take longer.

What I am imagining is like you're coding on the IDE and the AI can't really grasp how everything in the code comes together to make the app work or why you're doing things the way you are, but you give it hints like "make a function to do this and that" and it does it as you go, so its like typing faster, but idk how well that would work

>>108190444
>>108191206

and it peaked with GIRLSDOPORN

>>108191166
how do you go to a museum at night
aren't they closed?
also am i the only one who thinks museums are boring? or is it because i live in a shitty small city and just haven't seen any good ones?

Can't get over how much of a better life my ex lived by being an outdoorsy tour guide whore.
I've built my whole live around computers and I can't give a shit anymore

>>108187382
Only unemployment enjoyers have the emotional energy for that.

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>Average day as a database engineer, pic related.
Companies will make up any made up job position of title and still wont get you laid.

>>108191241
>A junior has different strengths and weaknesses from AI, he will need a LOT less hand holding than AI but also take longer.
Yea, and the AI can spit out boiler plate faster than I can, hell it can probably do some subroutines faster than I can if they're common enough.
The problem with what you're suggesting is that the LLMs and no current AI neural network has the actual capacity to store knowledge of the entire codebase and to acutally infer it like a human being. Which is what a junior is, and what a senior is, what even the dumbest no-coder is, surprisingly. Looking at other people's code is dumb and stupid enough as it is, but the only reason we can really understand it is contextual knowledge and assumptions and back and forth mutual understanding.
Unless a company is going to build a internal LLM that doesn't suck major ass (which no one has done and no one will do until we figure out something as crucial as convnets, transformers or make another massive GPU leap then current structure of AI models simply doesn't allow for the replacement of an actual thinking human being.

I don't value co-workers solely because they are good at coding. I value those who are able to concisely tell me what they want, how they want it, what they're doing to achieve that and what they want me to do/help with. LLMs are a wrench, not part of the team.
Also if you just want to type faster, there's numerous things you can do for that.

>>108191255
they're boring at shit, but I need to go somewhere. I don't want to be at the gym every night

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>>108187350
Deepseek also falls for it but I'm not surprised. It has given me some absolutely ridiculous answers over the months, and it does it with such confidence and blablabla on top.
I know not to ever question it on something I have no idea about.

>>108191298
high IQ ngl

>>108190816
>both are functional languages
>C#
>Node.js
damn son try harder

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>top 1% of salaries in my area
>save/invest 2k euros per month
>virtually unlimited remote days
>work 10 to 4
>easy as fuck job
>still miserable

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when I tell my manager I'm quitting, and he asks why, I probably shouldn't say something like this:
>because lately this job makes me want to kms myself more than usual
right?

Do you guys think it'll ever he easier?

>>108191363
At some point, yes.

>>108191363
when i give my dying breath i'll feel relief i'm sure

stupid employment services trying to bug me to come to appointments when I've just started a job nooo way loserssss

>anon do you have family
>anon do you have a gf
>anon why don't you hang out with us more
>anon why don't you have a car
why do they keep asking these questions. It's none of their business

>>108191169
im at 7 kek i havent applied to a job in 3 weeks just cba

>>108191169
>>108191194
Is it really that bad guys? Is it over?

>>108191463
Nah, I've just been in and out of surgery for like a year and a half, I've been working on family stuff at the same time though, mainly as support, scheduling, etc. Something I can do while being in and out of hospital, recovery, being drugged up.

>>108191325
Deepshit and the other open sores models really prove how little benchmarks matter.

>manager will just overwrite code with sloppa even if i try to understand it and write it myself

>>108191407
stop being a whiner and start asking them of their mom is single

learn there is a concept called joy and humor

CHUD

>>108191572
>joy and humor
>joy=tranny coded
>humor=suicide pilled

>>108191602
Ok hurry the fuck up and have some laughs

>>108191641
Laughing is gay anon.
I bet giggling is just another name for fisting
I bet lmao actually means prolapsing

>>108191349
no, you should

but then you should be prepared for him to ask "why?" and you are too lazy for that so just stop going in and wait for them to fire you

>>108191407
>>anon why don't you have a car
boomers unironically dont understand how easy they had it. when my coworkers asked me why i dont have a car i explained the process to get a license and they were taken aback at how non-trivial it is

where i live you need to own or at least have access to a car to get a license. glhf doing that if you don't have a license or can't steal your mom's whip. getting a license as an adult is literally impossible unless you're an immigrant who gets the license from their home country grandfathered in

>>108190055
Sounds like every job I had.

>which sounds nice but after a year of getting nasty looks it gets old
You shouldn't give a fuck. A job is not a place to make friends.

>also our new manager is fucking useless
All managers are useless.

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>I'll just take a 1 hour nap
I'm fucked

>>108191407
>>anon why don't you have a car
Why don't you?
Imagine being this fucking poor.

>>108191407
literal welfare niggers have cars lmao

>>108189396
>how did you guys decide what niche of "tech" you wanted to work on
I didnt choose the niche life, the niche life chose me

>>108191407
>>anon why don't you have a car
you are physically retarded if you dont have a car

>>108191797
Depends on the car. There are extreme discriminatory policies in certain places

>>108191665
>>108191703
yeah maybe i'm just not cut out for this kind of work anymore, now i need to find a new career in my late 30s, this was literally the only thing i was ever good at

>>108187350
I'm a certified Sterile Processing Technician at a major hospital. Is that enough that I can be considered a tech worker? Tech is literally in my job title

>>108191814
see >>108191770

if you can't even afford a blacked out Chrysler 300 with rims you're fucking poor, even homeless dudes have fucking tacomas LMAO KEKW KWAB

>>108191841
No. Learn to Code.

>>108191853
why would I want to learn a job that's not even going to be around 18 months from now? Until we have robotics that become extremely good at eye-hand coordination and visual acuity, my job at least is safe.

>>108191821
have you considered becoming a sterile processing tech? It's a very in demand job, you can get hired at almost any hospital on the spot if you're certified

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>>108191880
>>108191893
>Sterile Processing Technician
You are already obsolete.

>>108191893
>yes goy rack up those certs! COOOODING certs are not enough, you need more in even unrelated fields!
u are so right bestie brb getting my Confined Space Entry cert

>>108191923
there are some job fields where certification is not only important, it is mandatory
that's what the real world job market is like. Sorry if you've been standing out in tech-bro la-la land for so long you don't recognize it

>>108191934
so true bestie also i support gun licensing btw no1 should have a Assault Weapon without license!

>>108191941
go get surgery from a doctor without a medical license if you think they're so worthless

>>108191821
I'm the same. Although I'm technically employed I can't start working for my client because I'm waiting for some shitty security clearance. Some days I wish I had a different job but then again there's no way I could do nothing else.

>>108191949
>getting medical aid from a glowie

>>108191893
>a sterile processing tech
Is that the person who cleans the blood and guts out of surgical machines? I don't want to do that.
I think I'm just going to neet for a while and live off savings until it runs out

>>108191958
if thats what it is it sounds pretty chill desu. like working as a busboy or dishwasher except you make 3x as much and your "clients" (nurses, doctors) have 1 or 2 more iq points and more to lose if they take a swing at you

I am going to create my own saas product to sell b2b and then monetize it. And I'm smarter than a jeet or a /g/ neet so I can vibe code it correctly. I feel like there is a market for it even though I did not do market research (but there is no one doing the thing I want to do in the exact and advanced data-analysis type way).
No, I'm not telling you my idea.
But my biggest problem right now isn't technical. It's getting enough motivation to work on a project for no pay and uncertainty that it will make money.
But it's a data driven schema-first ui second type project, so it would be difficult for some vibecoder to copy it.

>>108191991
I think someone was telling me about that job, they got approached by a recruiter because they couldn't fill it. Turns out it was slightly above minimum wage, you needed some kind of cert, and you had to sign all kinds of liability releases in case you caught some kind of bloodborne illness while on the job.

>>108191991
I've made myself valuable enough on the clean side assembling and sterilizing trays that I haven't been in decontam in years. But even if you're a first year grunt you won't spend more than half your time in decontam.

>>108192020
I make $60k/year, is that slightly above minimum wage?

>>108192034
i make this much and even people irl call me a poorfag (not actually using the term "poorfag" but they pity or belittle me for being "poor")

>>108192045
yeah well we'll see whose calling who a poorfag when you're making $0/year

>>108191177
It really is just fishing for (You)s everywhere on the internet, huh

>>108192034
Min would be between $30k-$40k/yr depending on where you live, probably. So yes, you're above that.

>>108191180
Everything is engineering now. And obviously you yourself can't learn prompt engineering because otherwise you'd be wealthy now.

>>108192077
"prompt engineering" is absolute bullshit. You don't have to be special to know how to prompt shit. Just don't be straight up retarded and tell it what you want in plain english, it's that fucking easy.

Im doing good with my graphic tablet
Im confident I'll be portfolio ready by may/june

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>eurofag
>1.4x modal income
>200k+ in savings
>no debt
>not even close to being able to buy a smol home in a shit location
Give me one reason why I should work instead of going full Robin Williams

>>108188827
Common Gemini W.

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>whole team needs to work this weekend because the PMs ai slop code broke everything in production

>>108188208
>>108188107
one time i was hanging with my buddy and he told me we were taking his miata to the car wash. he in fact did not have it put through the wash but simply bought jugs of various compounds to do undercoating at home. truely a madman

Why are we so miserable having easy cushy jobs? You guys ever wondered about that?

>>108192077
Is googling shit engineering now?

>>108192149
Probably because we know our jobs are pointless. But then again, everything is pointless so you might as well choose what you like and enjoy it.

>>108192149
probably just endorphins
Basically the only time I would drive home and feel like a normal person who had contributed to the planet and does not someone who deserves to be executed in incel prison was a warehouse job because it was literally lifting

>>108192163
Yeah I kinda have the feeling I could lose my job tomorrow and never get another again as the world realizes

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>company takes one week to follow up after a screening interview

>>108192149
lack of fulfillment from knowing truly no one's day has been made better by your involvement and in fact probably a lot of people's lives have been made worse through your involvement

also touching systems that were the product of similarly salty people who have no vested interest in making anything better, so every "mature" system is a byzantine mess of bodge jobs where even if you liked the result, getting there is unnecessarily difficult and is so because of an actually identifiable set of people (and not LE JOOZ or whatever, literally you find a load-bearing file named something like "DONOTDELETE_test_executable_GregJones_1993.ps1.bat")

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>>108187350
>>108188107
LLM failures go viral because they trigger a "Schadenfreude" response to automation anxiety. If the oracle can't do basic logic, our jobs feel safe for another quarter.
Wrong.

>>108188480
The only thing I enjoyed that much at that age was reading books, playing video games, and learning about dinosaurs and astronomy. I'm too stupid to find a career in paleontology or physics and I can't write worth a damn, so being a technology janitor 50 hours a week and gooning it is.

>>108188480
as soon as you monetize a hobby you will grow to hate it

>>108188117
Well that didn't take long, paper over another AI error.

Don't you guys think it's ironic that us, the "tech savvy" kids in the family, are becoming the new ludites? Whoever writes this universe has a nice sense of humor.

The software engineer hierarchy at my company goes
>Associate Software Engineer
>Software Engineer
>Senior Software Engineer
>Staff Software Engineer
>Principal Software Engineer
I'd say that 80% of the SWEs in the organization are seniors, 15% are Associate or mid-level, 4% are Staff, and 1% are Principal.
In a 'diamond' shaped environment like this, how do you get to Staff?

>>108191797
>you are physically retarded if you dont have a car
I don't have a car
I have a 1948 bicycle
For longer trips, there's the train

>>108188119
if they just added 1 more lane that would fix these traffic problems

>>108192311
I still remember 10 years ago when AI was just a distant a possibility, programmers saying "There's no way a computer could take MY job, I'm the one programming them!"

bwahah how the tables have turned

>>108192345
Know a guy.

>>108192419
We're still waiting on all these new apps and improvements to existing apps that were promised. Any day now...

>>108192444
Only our jobs are not waiting....

>>108192419
>I still remember 10 years ago when AI was just a distant a possibility
So, nothing's changed.

>>108192447
in 5 years time it will get questions like this right 100% of the time
give me 10 trillion dollars

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>Job requires me to learn either python, java, or javascript
which will make me the least suicidal?

>>108191655
yikes

>>108192529
If you're Brahmin it's Python, if you're Dalit it's gonna have to be Javascript.

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>>108189396
>he thinks he's getting a job this decade

>>108192529
Python is much more learnable, but can be frustrating if you're used to C or something.
Javascript honestly isn't that bad. It's the libraries and little nicks and the unholy abominations of frameworks that are fucking horrid.
Java's boring, stereotyped, but realistically you probably know a language just close enough to it and you've probably already done something in it.

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>>108187350
How bad is it if I'm a junior and I've been unemployed for over a year?

I graduated in 2024 and got laid off at my first job in early 2025 and I fell into a really bad depression and went back into being a neet.

Since the new year I've been feeling good again, was coding some stuff for fun and feel ready to apply again soon, but the idea of going back on the market feels kinda terrifying.

>>108192824
You're better off than people who haven't had any experience, but its not perfect. Still an uphill battle. Could be worse.

>>108192824
just say you're trains you'll get a job

>>108188208
hello saar

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okay hear me out
>use openclaw to automatically apply to jobs
>train it to do background searches on companies and avoid applying to any listing where the management is majority jeets
thoughts?

>>108189396
>cybersecurity
buddy your niche is flipping burgers if you can even get that

>>108192887
flipping burgers is a hard job to get mcdonalds gets 100k applications a day. Unironically easier to get an IT job

>>108192886
>use openclaw to apply to jobs
>train it to not apply to any jobs
?

Got an interview as a data annotator job, basically it's giving a transcription to a voice note / video. Like a glorified fansubber. What does this job actually like on the daily? Feels like an affiliate marketing garbo.

>>108192247
How so? Rather have money than no money. I can just pick another hobby myself. Dont speak unless you actually experienced this yourself

>>108192955
those jobs are mind numbing and utterly awful

>>108192955
what the fuck are you asking

>>108192963
Elaborate. Is it like bullshit hours for $100 a month? Low acceptance rate?

>>108192955
Is it one of those AI training jobs I keep seeing?
I heard they pay you using paypal instead of direct deposit, is that right?

Muttricans pretending to be dumb over a clear sentence never fail to make me jest

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>>108187350
lmfao

Now say how you can't wash the car there if the car isn't there. Watch it call you a goddamn genius and spam a bunch of smileys.

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>>108192990
>>108193005

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>>108193015

>>108193015
trillions will be spent on this lmao

>>108193015
>I was only pretending to be retarded

>>108193015
>The classic "you walked to the car wash without the car" situation

>you can wake up one day with a scheduled call from HR and suddenly you won't have a roof over your head next month
Doesn't this terrify you guys?

>go to work
>think I forgot my laptop
>tell colleagues, trying to brush it off as funny
>realize I didn't forget it after all
>go home without telling anyone I didn't forget it because I don't want to come across as a double retard
classic

>>108193152
I don't live in the third world so I'd still have income after losing a job. Also even if I didn't, I could rough it out for about 15 years at this point. And when money runs out, I'd still have a roof over my head.

>>108193152
No I live with my mom

>>108193152
No I have savings
I'll be the one that calls HR

>>108193331
>>108193331
>>108193331

>>108193152
This happened to me but I had 1.5 years to live off before touching an IRA and it only took a month to find another job.

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>>108187350
5.2 is not fooled by your tricks

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>>108191781
This.