>B-but JXL can't do animati-ACK
>>108188874I will simply not use a format called jpeg or similar. sorry but I will stick with png
based gif
How is it possible to be worse than gif?
webpsissies….
>>108188874>webp bigger than GIFWas this test conducted by a retard?JXL [1.7 MB/ -32%]https://files.catbox.moe/4rukk0.jxlWebP [1.74 MB/ -31%]https://files.catbox.moe/isng94.webpAPNG [3.00 MB/ +20%]>>108188910They probably used GIMP and not img2webp pike how you're supposed to if compression matters.ON a relevant note, JXL is obviously going to have better compression than a 2008 image codec but I think Webp will remain relevant for a while since it can decode on low end hardware just fine.
>>108188874>aVIF, the retarded video codec, performs the worst
Enjoy ur 10% adoption in 5 years
>>108188874gif master race
When will 4chins support JXL?
>>108189731Don't tell the otaku
>>108188910Probably because it forces lossy 8-bit quantization.>>108189731To be fair, lossless AV1 is likely neglected. SVT recently added a lossless mode that might do much better than the reference encoder.
>>108190545That explains it, OP's dogshit ass test used YUV 420 lossy Webp instead of ARGB 444 lossless Webp. Otherwise 20-30% lower filesize vs GIF is typically observed with lossless Webp, see >>108188935Thought not always but still pretty cool that you can convert GIFs to Webp, redice filesize and have 0 loss in quality. Kinda mirror's Jpeg XL's lossless compression of JPGs.
>>108190671JXL can also successfully convert GIF's losslessly. I did some tests a while back.https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/100594502/#100629618
>>108190766>b&w snake gifcool, now try something reasonable
>>108188883Cool. Who asked? Stick with bmp for all everyone cares.
>JXLdesigned from the top to be an image codec.excellent features, compression ratio and qualitythe google chrome team didn't like it for ... reasons>AVIFprimarily a video codec, that was hacked into being an image codec.it works I guess, with just ... ok features and a.. um... fine? compression ratio / qualityshills loved this fucking thing for ... reasons
>>108188874loses to an av1 webm
>>108189985Not until we get AV1, which is already too much to ask for, apparently.>>108190908Scroll down.
>>108191247fuck AV1
>>108188874I am a retard that knows nothing, but why do we need 100 different formats to display pictures? JPEG works and I use PNG when I need transparent background. I don't care about the rest.
>>108191725because new technology is more efficient,offers greater quality at the same sizes.like video, you don't convert your blu rays to divx, you convert them to H265 or AV1 because they offer better quality and low filesizes.same with images, we can't keep using JPG forever, better image encoders exist
>>108191808no, I keep them at h264 and mux in subs and reencode the LPCM audio into FLAChowever, JXL is looking better and better everydaya format that recompresses jpegs without loss, allows lossless and transparent images, and event animations, I want it to reach widespread use
>>108191532Imagine being obese and needing a push up bra.
>>108191725Newer formats offer better compression, higher quality, and aren't tied to the technical limitations of decades ago (many more colours, wider colour range).JPG and PNG work sure, but you could also use a format that's half the size, better looking, and has no colour banding. And that's not counting advanced features in JXL like the extra layers and channels that make it super useful as a creative/scientific/archival format.
>>108191145AVIF will RAPE jpeg extra large when compressing anime images thoughbeit.
>>>/fit/77096820Alright, which one of you was this?
>>108189985We don't have webp and one of the admins is proud of this fact. You really think they're capable of handling superior technology?
>>108192295>>108191532
>>108192323webp sucks, though
>>108191725>JPEG wo-4:2:2no transparencyAlready lostYour argument is shit and I won't bother reading further if you think jpeg is good enough.
>>108192054HOLY SHIT IT'S THE OTAKU FAGGOT AGAIN
>>108192329Webp still heems PNG in every nonmeme case.
>>108192054avif is based and true, jaypeg eck-sell is fake and gay
>>108192353The only thing good about it is you already have hardware for AV1. JPEG-XL is already superior as an actual image-first format.
wake me up when there's a single standard that everyone can agree on, till then I'm using my jiffs and my webbemms
>>108192368We can only agree when the anime faggots die of coronaries
>>108192054that's cool avif has it's niche but I don't really care about 8K <1MB anime images when all other metrics are better for JXLI much prefer having a format that can do morepersonally, just the fact that it losslessly recompresses jpegs wins it for me, and getting better lossless compression than png makes it a done deal
>>108189847>chome added jpgxl support>publishes a "study" that askhually our av1 based format is best>removes jpgxl support The lack of support is manufactured.
>>108192337>>108192407I wouldn't really call AVIF excelling at Anime images a "niche", anymore at least. The normalfaggots are getting pretty uppity with their new toy these days which is why we haven't seen another Oreimo let alone another Yosuga no Sora. The reason you hate Anime today is because it just fucking sucks man.
>>108192548It is ultra niche and get a job you smelly otaku
>>108192548I do agree with you and want more wincest, but jxl clears avif in images, just be satisfied with your AV1 and let JXL shine
>>108192565You WILL watch Yosuga no Sora and you WILL stoop to our level, unkindled one.>>108192572I'm just saying, JXL is in danger depending on how normified Anime becomes. We all used to mind our own business and stay confined to our little sekrit clubs but now we've lost all that. Maybe Pluribus will reset them back to "normal", whatever the fuck that means but as of right now that shit ass Demon Slayer slop is uhhh... slaying. JXL depends on the mainstream not going 2D to survive desu.https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/business/story/2025-09-11/anime-is-surging-in-popularity-this-streaming-app-is-reaping-the-rewards
>>108191725Tech companies spend a shit ton of money on shaving bytes here and there because at their scales it matters. Which is why we got HTTP2/3 that take tens of thousands of lines to implement versus a couple hundreds for HTTP1.
>>108192609>JXL is in danger depending on how normified Anime becomesLMAO this dumbass really thinks anime images have a chance of beating real-life images in influenceKeep fucking dreaming. Even as someone who likes anime that is a retarded take.
>>108188874I'm sure the 40kb will make a diff on my 4tb ssd and 12tb hdd
