Why is this technology so expensive? It's literally just a chain and a motor.
>>108190589What kind of motor? Is it designed to last a long time? Is it battery powered? Is it in yuropoorstan?
>>108190589>expensiveMine were €64 each with screws, remote and everything you need. How poor are you?
>>108190599It's a very basic electric engine that powers a cog. Getting more and more common in new houses in Scandinavia at least, not expensive at all.
>He needs a machine to close a window
OIIII! YU'VE A LOISENS FER OPENIN' THA' WINDOW SAR?
>>108190589Holy shit you Americans can't even lift your assess anymore to open a window? Grim.
>europoors need a motor to open a window just slightlylol, lmao
>>108190787Americans don't know how to use casement windows.
>>108190628How loud is it?
>>108190589>Why is this technology so expensive?Got moar details? make? model? Datasheet?>>108190628>Mine were €64 eachKeyword: mineStill tho. €65 for a lump of ABS containing €5 euro of motor, €3 of control hardware, and €5 of chain might be considered by some to be extortionate...>>108190831How do you push with a chain, dipshit?
>>108190874>How do you push with a chain, dipshit?Why is there a chain attached to your window that you're not even allowed to fully open, Muhammad?
>>108190874>How do you push with a chain, dipshit?It's a stiff guided chain. Mine does indeed open and close the window.
>>108190895>Why is there a chain attached to your windowI assume it's to shut the window whilst you aint there. That and for the lazy/disabled.>that you're not even allowed to fully openI'll assume that's a reference to the safety catches that are there to prevent small children falling.I'll also assume you're unaware of the tab you can depress in the frame that allows it to slide open fully to the extent of the mechanism, and that if it's over a certain height then (here at least) by law it requires to not only fully open but rotate inwards for easy cleaning?>Muhammad?Ask me how I know you get your education from docile media...
>>108190942Ahhh. TYVM. That pic I can see the chain only bends in one way...
>>108190589>power goes out>motor stops working>can't open windows>suffocate and dieWhat an awful idea
>>108190958Okay buddy, glad you guys need this to open a window! You can't justify it.
>>108190999There's a release on the side of it. Push it in and the "clutch" or whatever engages and you can manually open/close it. There's also the slide-mounted ones like picrel. They cost a bit more but they have similar features.
>>108190831Here in a lot of Europoor countries we keep getting stricter and stricter "accessibility" regulations when it comes to new buildings. First time I saw a house with automated windows like this was a 2016 newly build house. If you're handicapped or otherwise limited in movement for various reasons it's a great thing to have.
>>108190864Not loud at all. A little buzzing motor sound and a click when it stops.
>>108191006>glad you guys need this to open a windowEvidence I possess one of these devices for the sash windows in my 200 y/o victorian townhouse?As opposed to entering the thread to find out, only to discover the retard has escaped it's playpen and is shitting up the internet with the crap it absorbed on docile media again.>You can't justify it.Pretty sure I did, with the lazy/disabled snip.
>>108191119Okay, don't care. Nice motorized window, dork.
>>108191138>Okay, don't care.Or pay attention to presented informaiton by the looks of it. But I'm sure that won't cause you a problem later...That was sarcasm, btw, as you likely require explaining this is more than just a seven letter word.>Nice motorized window, dork.Any evidence that is my window you care to share?Fucknuckle...
>>108190999>suffocate and dieWait, can this really happen? I haven't ventilated my apartment in over a month because I'm trying to conserve heat because I can't afford to have my heating system repaired. Can you actually die from this?
>>108191209No you'll just be bathing in your musty room smell, unless there's a carbon monoxide leak. Then you'll actually die.
>>108191209Not unless you live in some thirdie box without ventilation. I don't open my windows for 5-6 months of the year during winter. My apartment has good ventilation.
>>108191209>Can you actually die from this?Yes.Incredibly unlikely. Most buildings have gaps f'kin *everywhere*. Especially older builds. Ones that did get a decent seal then got ventilation bricks added because trapping the moisture builds up mold...Your 'worry' there gonna be C02, which is heavy n should fall, filling up like a pool ... lower down will be thicker... effects include nausia, dizzyness, drowsiness, etc, but in lower doses it'll generally manifest as irritability...> I can't afford to have my heating system repaired.Fuck it off and install a ground source heat pump.But whilst you're waiting: Thermal mass.You want something that can eat a lot of thermal energy and hold it. Sand is great. Stick a bucket of sand on an alcohol stove, mebbe add heatsink n fan... Short a wire out in the sand... loadsa ways to make heat...
>>108191196you're the one defending it so adamantly, sorry for your disability!
>>108191282>you're the one defending it so adamantly, sorry for your disability!By which you mean correcting the misconception you've formed by assuming based on zero evidence, which is in fact a cognitive disability?I *do* want to put motors on my windows, btw. I'll be needing linear actuators, tho, not these - as my windows operate on a different paradigm.But - as usual - you've gone off half-cocked and shot yourself in the foot. Reloaded and done the other one.What's the betting you'll even be dumb enough to do yourself again...
>>108191308All this typing just to prove how mad you are someone made fun of your windows made specifically for the average handicapped europoor! XD
I've always wondered this, but can you really put screws into plastic frames that won't chip?
>>108191333>All this typingA couple of sentences? It might represent significance to yourself, being limited by the touchscreen keyboard, but it took seconds...>how mad you are someone made fun of your windowsAint my windows. Again.'made fun' you say? By which you ofc mean the glib comment you spat based on the docile media education that lied to you. The one that lead to the presentation of information that broke your tiny mind.>made specifically for the average handicapped europoor!You got any evidence this is restricted to the europoor? Or for the handicapped, for that matter. Maybe some people have more than two windows in their house and moving from floor to floor and room to room is notably more effort than: Jimbob shut the windows.
>>108191371>put screws into plastic frames that won't chip?If that's chippin' then there's some serious UV damage happened. uPVC should flex and deform around the wound, maybe swarf a lil...
>>108190589>please sorbet, my noodles appendages are too weak to open a window
>>108190704I guess the point is to have all of them close automatically in case of rain. It's not about can but want, you stupid baiting fuck.
>>108191059Europeans will do ANYTHING but buy an air conditioner.
>>108190589What the fuck is that contraption?
>>108191675That's actually a really nice solution for home workout. Never thought of it.
>>108191713Can only speak for Sweden but all new buildings after like 2015 have central air here and most people put AC in their houses.
>>108191729She's a midget though. If you're normal sized, and have low ceilings as in the video, you won't be able to do the whole upside down legs in the air thing. Unless you hold on to the lowest rungs, but that that point you sacrifice the comfortable option of using the chest-high rung which is optimal for such exercises.
>>108191675damn she's very strong
>>108191713We don't need it, we're not living in trash houses without insulation.
>>108191993You forgot summer. Have to go outside or else you’ll melt to death without ac
>>108191059>If you're handicapped or otherwise limited in movement for various reasons it's a great thing to have.and for everyone else it's an inconvenience because these things no doubt break every 2 years or so. Also a potential hazard if there's a housefire and you need to open the windows quickly.
>>108192043>no doubt break every 2 years or soNot made in America so they last a bit longer than that. >Also a potential hazard if there's a housefire and you need to open the windows quicklyThey have quick releases on the chain part.
>>108192043>Also a potential hazard if there's a housefire and you need to open the windows quickly.Ask me how I know you've failed to pay attention when someone refuted this point earlier...
>>108191371>plastic framesWhat kinda Temu ass windows have plastic frames?
>>108192116Pretty much all residential windows installed post 2k been uPVC... Few buildings remain unretrofitted...
>>108192116All of them? Modern windows are plastic, metal, rubber, and glass.
>>108191713I'd start worrying if Europeans started putting ACs in their homes en masse.
>>108192128The fuck. Here in Denmark it's always wood or aluminium. Nobody would ever use plastic here for that.
>>108190589Why do you need an electronic window opener?
>>108191675alright screw it I'm saving up for an exercise rack like thatthey're only what, 1k?
>>108190657>electric engineESL
>>108192154You do realise you just attached a picture of uPVC windows cross-sectioned?I don't think it's a 'good' material choice either. But it is what it is.>>108192172Need?Likely disabled.Want?Lazy. But with that said, sometimes going up three flights of stairs to shut the windows stopping at all the rooms on those floors to shut those windows, might be a little more cumbersome than most will want to deal with when they can say "Jimbob, close the windows".Then ofc there's automated senario...
>>108192199Yes. English is my third language.
>>108190589they know people will pay anything to get one of those since they can't diy it themselves.
>>108192205>You do realise you just attached a picture of uPVC windows cross-sectioned?The main bulk of that section is aluminium with a PA66 layer for insulation, not uPCV. It's where I got my windows last time. https://zenaluminium.pl/sv/tjanster/fonster-aluminiumsystem/fonster-hangning/cor-80-dold-vinge/
>>108192199And?They native to a different tongue.What's your point here, and how is this technologically grounded?
>>108192235That picture.Upper left section.That's a uPCV window frame. Cross-sectioned.
>>108192237Getting the names of pieces of technology correct is fundamental to discussing technology. This is an English website. English is the primary and generally official language of technical documentation involving science and technology
>>108192224>since they can't diy it themselves....Why can't you? Tossing an arduino, a bluetooth or wifi chip, a cheapo motor, a lipo battery, a cheap chain you get from the hardware store, and a rudimentary gear to match shouldn't be THAT hard.
>>108190589There's no point in selling things if you can't make money
>>108192269>Getting the names of pieces of technology correct is fundamental to discussing technologyIt's certainly helpful.But was you left not understanding what they meant? That's what actually matters in communicaiton...>>108192292>cheap chain you get from the hardware storethe motor spins to open the window, the chain spools into a pile... ???I'm all for erryfink else you're throwin', but common chain isn't going to cut the mustard...You seem to have neglected a clutch for manual overide, btw.
>>108192255No, that's aluminium. >"Aluminum framed windows meet the highest quality standards and offer many advantages: high stability, energy efficiency, value enhancement, variety in surface finishes, narrow visible profile widths, easy to operate, minimal maintenance and a long service life. Our Aluminum windows give you value that lasts a lifetime"All their windows are aluminium framed. That's the whole point of their company.
https://www.lowes.com/pd/Bell-Sports-Links-500-Multi-Speed-Bike-Chain-Steel-112-Link-1-2-in-x-3-32-in-Black/8637488Wouldn't this work? Just attach it to that gear and it'll push and pull.
>>108192324>No, that's aluminium.My bad. Looks just like uPVC in that picture.. It even looks white where they've cut it, not just the surface finish.That second picture as least has a touch of gleam that implies it could be aluminium..
>>108192338You push that it'll fold up?Chain in >>108190942 only folds one way and locks into the next link across...
>>108192343Yeah you can have them in any color you want. They powdercoat them when you order them. Mine are white.
>>108192358Right, right.Well it still wouldn't be that hard to manufacture a couple hundred custom links anyway, people do more complicated things in a day
>>108190589because you can't do it. bitch
>>108191675damn i bet it feels good stretching yourself out that much. i like to do big stretches my mum tells me im being dramatic but i dont even get what she means by that. it feels good
>>108190657>Getting more and more common in new houses in Scandinavia at least, not expensive at all.You have no clue what you are talking about.
>>108191807Jag känner igen huset.Ses på lördag, Anon.:)
>>108191807that's so funny looking as an american because it's such a piddly little unit compared to what we have here. I mean naturally, Sweden is so much colder than most of the US and I'm pretty sure all of the contiguous united states in general (presumption on my part) but still. That looks like it'd be as effective as a window unit.
>>108194224north america has those units too. its just about the amount of space your heating>>108191807is for like a single room
>>108194240the type I posted is far more common in north america though, because we typically want as much control over our homes as we can get. Maybe it's different in canada since you mentioned north america in general but in america it's pretty standard to overengineer your climate control.
>>108191675What's this rack called?
>>108194249We usually call them a woman
>>108194249not sure of the exact model but you can find some like it by searching for pull up/dip stations
>>108190657Are Scandinavians really such basedboys that they are too weak to open windows?
>>108194248i have >>108191807 connected to my house to heat my upstairs bedroom where the furnace doesnt gomy neighbours got >>108194224
>>108194249i don't have the model too, but it's a gymnastics ladder or swedish ladder
>>108194274is 13g noticable?
>>108192154for most people there is no real advantage of aluminium against pvc, yet many disadvanges, pvc is naturally insulating, aluminium is a thermal conductorits an outdated tech, in spain we have the same window installers dont want to update themselves>>108192324the only real advantages there is high resistance (how bad are your storms etc?), and yeah narrower profiles, which are usually not a concern>>108192343they are basically the same tech, back them when pvc was shit many companies invested in aluminium and have stuck with that
>>108194779If your 25g bag of drugs is 13g short, yeah.
>>108191729>>108192191this only works because she's like 5ft tall
>>108194866rough measurement going off the video assuming the ceiling is 2.4m which is standard where i live (idk how common this is elsewhere), that'd make her about 163cm or 5'4"
>>108191675i hated those in the school, but know i see their point
>>108191059In the US we have the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA) that does some of the same stuff but at least it's mainly for multifamily housing like apartments and condos. Single family homes can be built to ADA standards but in most places that's not a requirement. Last apartment complex I lived in had the peep hole about three feet from the ground so people in wheelchairs could see through them. I was told that since I'm not disabled, it wasn't a big deal for me to squat down to look through the peep hole.
>>108191675Unrelated but why is Scandanavian home design so soulless and dogshit?
>>108194866I don't know how tall she is but would for sure
>>108195736Looks okay to me. It lacks color but it's minimalistic and that's a pro.
>>108194866Wrong.
>>108191807Can also speak for Sweden and these aren't THAT common, at least where I live. I'd say the majority of houses here don't seem to have these units and I know mine certainly doesn't.In any case, a simple fan + open window and summer can generally be managed just fine, no need for AC.
>>108191209>Wait, can this really happen?Yes, if for example the house is burning and you can't get out. Or if there's a carbon monoxide leak.
>>108191675>mp4damn, now I want one of those.
>>108191675Imagine how flexible she is, 4 big black cocks at once
>>108190589maintenance & installation costs.Im in a work environment rn filled with easy stuff thats all gone nonfunctional & nobody remembers what it was for.
Is this supposed to be poor mans version of forced ventilation?
