Dunno editionHow to request advice:>Budget>Intended use (media, source, environment)>Frequency response preference and music examples>Past gear and your thoughts on themFAQ:>Where do I buy IEMs?Amazon, Aliexpress, Linsoul, Hifigo, Shenzhenaudio>Shopping Guide (IEMs, PMPs, Cables, Ear Tips, etc.):https://rentry.org/consoomer_guide>EQ Guide (EQ 101, Targets, Myths & Misconceptions, Papers, etc.):https://iem-eq-guide.pages.dev/>/iemg/'s Journal:https://iemgazette.pages.dev/>Measurements:https://iem-eq-guide.pages.dev/measurement-databases/>Budget Wire Over-Ear IEMs:• Tanchjim Bunny DSP (Mild U/5-Band PEQ) - $22• Truthear Gate (Mild V) - $22• EPZ Q1 Pro (V-shape) - $35>Bullet IEMs:• Tanchjim Zero Ultima DSP (Mild U/5-Band PEQ) - $22• Sony IER-EX15C (Warm/Dark) - $30• Etymotic ER2XR (Towards Neutral) - $140>Flathead Earbuds:• Blue Vido (Warm) - $5• Yincrow X6 (Warm) - $10>USB-C DACs:• JCally JM6 (Non Pro) / CX Pro - $8• JadeAudio JIEZI (10-Band PEQ) $18• TRN Black Pearl (10-Band PEQ) - $38• Qudelix 5K (20-Band PEQ/GEQ) - $110>PMPs:• HiBy R1 - $85• HiBy M300 - $200>AVOID USING:• Mainboard audio when using multi-driver posPrevious Thread: >>108164426
I want to shove my cock into her mouth
/iemg/ Dogma Check Tired of the hivemind? Here’s your prescribed sanity dose:>Crinacle is not your priest.Rankings are a guide, not divine scripture. Your ears > his spreadsheet.>Harman ≠ perfect.It’s a preference curve, not a law of physics. Some genres need deviation.>Chi-Fi isn’t magic.Great value, yes. Immune to qc issues and hype cycles? Nah.>Graphs are not sound.They don’t show staging, dynamics, or fit. Use your ears, not just squigs.>BA ≠ metallic, DD ≠ perfect.Implementation matters more than driver type. Always has.>Meme sets aren’t the whole hobby.If it’s not shilled 24/7, it might still be good. It's highly encouraged to form an original opinion.>Disagreeing ≠ cope or deaf.Let people like what they like without foaming at the mouth.>Loud posts =/= smart takes.Confidence without experience is just noise. Show graphs, impressions, or both.This has been your scheduled break from pos groupthink.
Fox target won.
>>108191589>>Harman ≠ perfect.>It’s a preference curve, not a law of physics. Some genres need deviation.Evidence?
>>108191589>ea500lm is midCorrect.
I have CCA Trio - Legendary 3DD, but the cable broke(outer layer broke in multiple places, mic fell apart same day). I would get another one but I feel like there must be higher quality cables, it was already getting very stiff and unwieldy for months now.What cable(qdc) with microphone would you guys recommend? All the ones in guide seem to be without mic.
>>108191674>All the ones in guide seem to be without micI'm blind. Tripowin Zonie has mic option.So I will go with it unless there is something else I should look for when choosing a mic cable.
>>108191674I got mine from this storehttps://aliexpress.com/store/1104029215Mine is 2 pin but they have qdc versions.
Reposting:I'm extremely new and ignorant with this stuff:I bought a set of Moondrop CHU II DSPs, alongside this cable: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DFM7CJ19 so I could use it via audio jack rather then the default USB C cable the IEMs come with (since I want to save my USB ports for other things, plus it sounds different/worse when connected to my PC via the default USB C cable). I like how they sound, which is great, but the cable is a little too short. The amazon listing has a longer cable size option, which I went ahead and ordered, but it just arrived and the pins that connect to the actual earpieces are too receded/short to connectDoes anybody know of another 3.5mm audio jack IEM cable I can use with the CHU II's that has a cable length longer then 1.2m? Or what the name/size of the pin type it uses is so I know what cables to search for?
If cans turn you gay, what ear dildos do? I've been feeling cute now that I think of it.
Remember to buy a $5 shitbud and PEQ it to perfection.
>>108191704i'd rec cvj hato if you want a boom mic instead of inline
>>108191616it's funny you never heard one
>>108192194is ea500lm worth it if you alrrady have t10 and kunten
>>108192607shit vs poo vs poop
>>108192607yeah.but i'd get the delci ae or klean sv instead
>>108191876I'll remember this the next time I eat a pair
>>108192607it's a good question and honestly, yes.
>>108192194Mid.
>>108193807what are the best 1DDs you have?
>>108193842q1 pro
>>108193895you'll find infinitely more people that enjoy the simgot more than epz, but enjoy anyway. you calling it mid is nothing more than subjective.
>>108193902>you'll find infinitely more people that enjoy the simgot more than epzI won't. Because there is a finite number of people.
>>108193919you can't count to that finite number anyway so it might as well be infinite
>>108191825The type of the cable is recessed 2 pin. All the good cables are on ali, bro. You can also get a 3.5 extension cable.
>>108193969Integer numbers are countably infinite. Did you buy a wrong IEM because you're wrong at everything else too?
>>108193992>Did you buy a wrong IEM because you're wrong at everything elseok Rajesh
https://audio-imaging-test-lab.vercel.app/have fun with this imaging test
>>108191589>Crinacle is not your priest.>still thinks in crinacle's tonal/technical terms when everybody else figured out techs are in the fr What did he mean by this.
>>108191581dude looks like a lady
doesn't EQ btw >>108191948
Which one is better?Moondrop Aria 2 vs Truthear Pure vs Simgot ew300 dsp
Anyone know of other eartips like this where the stem is really short and nothing prevents nozzles from threading through the eartip? I want the eartip to be flush with the bore but many tips prevent this by keeping the nozzle slightly recessed inside the eartip
What IEMs should I get to upgrade from 7hz x Crinacle Zero 2? For me they don't sound good enough. 100$ budget
>>108195161I want the eartip to be flush with the IEM nozzle*
>>108195163wrong place to ask really but you might get answers. many people here hear more expensive iems as worse. why not save up and buy the fish? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bm1oA5Xras
>>108195193Thanks for suggestion anon. 400$ is a huge sum of money in my country, so I don't really want to overpay for some small difference in sound quality. I heard that Turthear Pure and Simgot EW300 could be a huge improvement from the IEMs that I have, so I'm looking for them or smth similar
Can you deafzos share some playlists that can test an iem's limit? I'm tired of listening to the same songs
>>108192123That looks interesting, thanks.
>when the schizo with perfect hearing sees the volume is at 0%
*Thieaudio Hype 4 MKII*Unlock your latent powers to travel back to save the universe before the (2012 CERN) EVENT
>>108194928Pure is going to be most lower mid focused and probably the easiest to EQ to whatever you want if you have that option. However it is a multi driver setup so you may have some funkiness with the impedance curve(maybe) also its distortion metrics may not be the best. Overall it is the most competent tuning>Aria 2Slightly smoother upper treble but worse mids and bass than the OG Aria>EW300DSPjust a really shitty patch on a decent but mediocre single iem. This one is probably the worst in terms of objectivity. The DSP cable is most likely not going to be as good as a dedicated DAC and there isn’t any real advanced FR manipulation going on. I would avoid.
Anyone have the knockoff aliexpress ie900's what are they like for $50
>>108195161sonic HE
>new meta tuning releases>no one caresis the new meta hype dead??
>>108196013The problem is that every store has its clone, so it's hard to track them. You can find some measurements on squiglink but you won't know what you'll get. But if you have a coupler and you like the comfort of that shell... it might be worth it.
>>108196013Even the real thing is bad, what do you expect from a bootleg.
>>108195547>when you reduce the volume to 0% on qudelix and still hear the music
>>108197008>every reviewer says it's the best bass ever>SEA chink who never heard it says it's badok
>>108197121>2026>reviewersBro...
>too poor for snake oil>too retarded for EQThis must be what hell feels like.
>>108196160These? They're short but they have these ridges that prevent what I'm talking about. I want the edge of the eartip to sit flush with the iem nozzle.
>>108197452It folds back when it goes in
>>108197452>>108196160like this
Ali $5 shitbud guideBe American. Get daily coins from widget and gogo match, do saving wednesday, grab sale/saver coupon, grab store coupon. PEQ it to perfection as Crinacle intended.$2 Dawn 1DD$3 EDC Pro 1DD$3 AK6 Pro$4 Rue 1DD$4 Luki 1DD+1subwoofer$5 Libra X 1DD$5 Konoka 1DD+1BA+1subwoofer$5 Kunten 1DD$6 ED9 Pro 1DD$7 Castor 2DD$7 Krila 1DD+1BA$8 Venus 1DD$10 QKZ x HBB 1DD$11 TRN Lucky Bag (5 iems)$12 Waner 1DD$12 Rosefinch 1DD$12 GATe 1DD$13 Chu II 1DD$14 Bunny 1DD$14 PR2 1planar$15 Luna 1planar$18 Decet 5DD$20 LF3 Pro 1DD+1EST+1BA$20 ST7 2DD+5BA$30 VX Pro+ 1DD+8BA
>>108195163EA500LM
Why buy anything else?
>>108197475Idk if we understand each other correctly but I'm scared to push harder than I already am. These tips at least don't seem friendly to this method.
>>108197528because better exists.
>>108197452works on my pos
>>108197834Fair enough, we just have different nozzles I think.
>>108197855you could try to get one of those airpods tips if your nozzle is stubby
>>108197537see this anon >>108197834
>>108195394Check out KOAN Sound, I like to use their music to compare IEMs.
Welp, the Gate has fallen and the invaders have breached the perimeter.Should I buy a different set or just try to super glue it? I suppose this is helpful if you need to clean the filters, but there's not much holding the nozzle on now.
>>108198438holy shit. time for a new pos, anon.
Why is everything chinese?
>>108198438this is a sign for you to purchase Stella.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lasH8SMZH3U
>>108197506Raped.
>>108198595>2026>THDWe are no longer in 1950.
>>108198595you still never fuckin heard one nigroid
>>108198752You can't hear anything.
your FAVOURITE IEM are not for everyone
>>108195394We only listen to real musichttps://youtu.be/QPDSs5D698c
>>108198763schizo alert
why is epz g10 so good, bros?
>>108191581I hate that my yellow fever makes me find this person attractive.
>>108191581Crinacle transitioned?
>>108199791>>108199839>does she have a cock??? I HOPE SOis what you're saying
>>108191581What do people think about the Fiio BTR17?
>>108199912it's pretty and does the thing but not $200 pretty and not $200 functionalities>inb4 "1 measurement of "functionalities"
i want to get a muse m6 for my birthday (in april). i dont need it. talk me out of it please.
>>108200009bro fuck that, life's too short, just get it if you want it. who knows if we'll all even be alive by then.
>>108200009why does a deaf person need so many dongles
hit play? yesenjoy the music? nosuffer from EQ tweak nervosa
You can purchase your PR2 for only $20 before coupons at https://a.aliexpress.com/_mr08VP7
>>108199921What makes you think $200 is a metric?
>>108200223Life's not short if you drink 3 dozen eggs a day, megadose niacin, zinc, magnesium, do chelation therapy and lift weights. I'm gonna outlive Bryan Johnson and become the next Jeffrey Epstein
Got an android music player off ali. $31. Has headphone jack and microsd slot. No hifi dac, just a mediatek audio codec used in android phones. I do have a JM6 Pro lying around I can use but seems irrelevant with the shitty iem I'm using.Good enough for what I need, it's pretty small too so easily pocketable.
>>108200009couldnt you just get a pmp at half that price or a Ifi hip dac or something?
>>108191876Is this assuming that I'm using headphones that put plastic directly on my skin? I don't think my velour headband and earcups(the only parts that make contact with my head) are toxic.
>>108200786I bench 135.
>>108200009you already own a DS2. what else do you need?
>>108200009you already own Cayin. what else do you need?
>>108201054Eat more, assuming you want pecs
>>108201260I have pecs, thats why I bench 135.
>>108200589>just enjoy music wrong bucko
>>108201263ngmi
>>108201273>t. steroid abuser
i want manlets off my /iemg/
>>108201054That's pretty good if you're 12
>>108201338>>108201281
>>108198407>>108199319Thanks. I guess how songs are mastered is really important. These tracks are good, for some reason the tracks I listen to have the instruments sound like they are really far away.
Anybody knows what's that green thing in my moondrop chu 2
>>108199912Chinks never test. Bre prepared for inexplicable lack of function.
>>108201594Shitty cupro-nickel alloy getting eaten by shitty fake silicone tips.
>>108201594HRT dust. It's now in your blood, xista.
>>108201594Deaf juice
>>108201594that's where the techs are. just cut it up and snort it
>>108200755paid ratzo trying to clean stock before innevetable prz release
>>108201665it'll be PL+vibrator this time around.
hopefully you guys will know:i found my old SanDisk Sansa Clip+. what's the largest microSD card it can take? IS there an upper limit?i found older forum threads and there seems to be some debate. it's not clear if specs/reviews were only saying 'up to 32 GB' because that was the largest capacity card at the time.supposedly there is a limit of 5,000 songs in the stock firmware, but Rockbox fixes that.
>>108201948https://downloads.sandisk.com/downloads/um/clipplus-en-um-03112.pdfit actually says nothing about maximum capacity supported, so..
>>108191581You forgot to post the video!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g46xuI9OXII
>>108202418wtf indogs look like that?!
>>108201369I knew you'd like ithttps://youtu.be/_t21YMlarT4
>>108191581that's a man
>>108202751Every track sounds like this through deafzo's setup. But he doesn't know.
>>108201948While it wasn't in the manual, it appears to only support SDHC, which is capped at 32gb. But even if you could go higher, a lot of these small players will start lagging and crashing with too much music to index.
>>108201948bigger cards work, you just gotta format themhttps://forums.sandisk.com/t/expandable-memory/211492
softears volume s sounds pretty nice honestly
today i will refine my shopping cart for 3 hours and then not buy anything
>>108204229holy based
$5 shitbud alert
>>108204358Deaf alert.
>>108204367You are deaf, read EQ guide.https://iem-eq-guide.pages.dev/
>>108204371Deaf and doesn't EQ >>108194620
Price is inverse to quality. Get your Chu2 at https://a.aliexpress.com/_mt8xOdf
Getting real fucking tired of this fuckass dogwater ass cheecks fiio/xduoo/pr2 spam.
>>108204358It's like a million for me thank to jew tax.
>>108204839That’s your own fault for electing a jew president
>they collect coins instead of working 15 mins
>he spent money on a 4chan pass>he bought a $5 shitbudsame energy
i have some moondrop pills that i like cause it clamps on the ear. the issue is the battery life doesn’t last a shift. any recommendations? needs to clip on the ear like that and longer battery life
>>108200009is that a fucking vacuum tube?for what purpose?why not korg's nutube? well I guess theyd make you pay a shit ton
guys is the anniversary sale gonna bring substantial discounts on AliExpress?do we have a clear date?(what are my chances of grabbing FT1 PRO below 150€?)
>>108206008>he doesn't have tube dongles
>>108206072100% if you're patient. eventually you'll hit a sale and a $15 off coupon
>>108205083Anon, I must coollect the coins through the aliexpress widget. It's not about saving money. I'm conditioned to coollect virtual points, it makes me happy.
>>108206008>why not korg's nutube first, it failed as a guitar distortion tube. then being repurposed as a power tube for audio doesn't really help its case, either since nobody knows what to really do with the tubes. I'd call it obsolete at this point..
>>108196458IEM hype in general is dyingCompare how many great headphone releases were there in 2025, with the forgettable e-waste churned out by IEM manufacturers
>>108206542Like?
>>108198595You are deaf, read the EQ guide.
$5 shitbud alart
>>108204576Sorry you wasted your money kiddo, but /iemg/ deals in endgame.
>>108206566>>108206574>>108206588>>108206599Deaf alert.
>>108191581got like 40-50 dollars, what iem to buy to listen to music
>>108206542Any good headphones yet?
>>108206612i lost my chu ii, didn't like them too much and for some reason the paper filtery something clogged very easily
>>108204367>green 6-core cable Based
TWS iems for under $50 or $60?I listen to a bit of everything with a bias towards EDM and anime music
>>108206622HEDDphone D1Sennheiser HD 550Sennheiser HDB 630HyperX Cloud Ill Wireless SHifiman Edition XV/HE600According to my headpos.com HRT frens
>>108206857>HD600 but ear rape>HD600 but worse>blueslop>gaymen slop>chinkshitmangrim
>>108206857>HEDDphone D1Meaningful upgrade to classic Sennheiser tuning finally, fixing the sub-bass extension >Sennheiser HD 550A big comfort upgrade over HD560s, finally looks like a proper premium headphone, not a 20$ charity store grab >HyperX Cloud Ill Wireless SMaxwell trannies ngmi, it beats it in every aspect possible >Hifiman Edition XV/HE600Well thats actually a pos, DMS was right Overall, the iemg pos reign is over, the headpos reign supreme again
>get 2db more sub bass>go deaf from ear rape trebleNice!
>>108207215…context?
hehehehehe
>>108206622thieaudio cypher
Ill actually miss my shuffle for only its size when it finally dies. Not sure what ill replace it with, but on the flipside i wont be dissapointed to rid myself of itunes
>>108207656
would be nice to see some T10s in this general. I've always heard good things about em. either way, here's a PR2
ESS is my vodka martini . ESS chips bring the most detail and clarity. It’s neutral leaning, transparent, and at times, almost sibilant. I hear every layer of music the clearest here, but for long listening sessions it can get tiring. However for me, this feels like the cleanest and most transparent representation of music. The “ESS hump” that’s talked about is gone in modern renditions, and the more modern take of the chip (BTR17) tries to add a touch of warmth when compared to older models.Cirrus Logic DACs present itself as a nice craft beer. CS chips feel a bit smoother than the ESS chips, but the space and air around the sound gets tighter. I find the this chip to sit between the ESS and AKM chip in terms of vocal warmth, but because it makes the soundstage tighter I don’t really enjoy listening to CS DACs as much. The K11 adds some airiness back, but when listening to more complex soundscapes I find that it is easier to separate the instruments on my BTR17. Funny enough, recent renditions of this chip brought in a “CS Hump” due to DRE, but most DACs have since patched this with firmware updates.AKM can be described as a smooth whisky . It tries to brings back the soundstage while having a velvety organic sound. I love listening to this with simple vocal ballads. It sounds pure, loudness never turns into harshness, and nothing is over-presented. That said, it still lacks detail, maybe on par with the CS chips or even slightly under.Now, for my listening, I tend to prefer my AKM DAC for nighttime sessions and overall enjoyment of music. ESS is my desktop active listening device, and the CS sits in between as an easy listen if I want to change up devices.I’ve heard all DACs are the same. They’re not. They’re not going to change the sound of music as much as swapping your IEMs, but they definitely do affect characteristics of what your IEMs will present to you.Ty for listening to my TED talk.
>>108209068Holy delusion
>>108207278Probably >>108207012
If I really want the variation's sound but I don't want to spend 500$ on it, what's the next best thing?
I love my DT990s!
KZ claims another victim.
>>108209944EQ
yeah the chu II is trash, fucking dunu titan x is fire
>>108209944Tanchjim Soda, xixta!
>>108210707metal case was a bad idea
i've been having a blast with the cheap shit, but i'm wondering at what price point the treble starts to sound normal again. i've tried:> zero:red> zero:2> truthear gate> truthear pure> defiant> crinear daybreak> aful explorer> arpegear hanemost of these have shit treble, and it's the only part of the sound holding them back from being excellent. i think it's a driver limitation because eq doesn't seem to fix it. only the hane and daybreak sound like they even have the detail at the top end of treble, though the daybreak is too harsh.i've got a dunu titan x on the way. any other recs?
>>108212463>i've got a dunu titan x on the way. any other recshow did you decide on the titan x?also, do yourself a favor and do a quick hearing test, see what frequency your hearing maxes out at. daybreak isn't supposed to be shouty, it's tuned to JM-1. the common denominator isn't "driver limitation", it's you.
>>108212646> how did you decide on the titan x?head-fi reviews. some say it's got good and natural treble extension, some say it doesn't. for $30 i can afford to find out for myself, or just return it if i hate it.> what frequency your hearing maxes out atmy hearing is fine, i max out around 18k. > daybreak isn't supposed to be shoutyi don't find the daybreak shouty, i find it too bright. it's pretty great otherwise, although a bit overpriced for the casing+cable quality.> it's youmy hd600 reproduce treble just fine
>>108212463Lmao dis nigga unironically deaf
>>108212729if every pos gives you treble issues but headpos doesnt, then it's you.
Every time.
>>108209068peak self induced schizophrenia
>>108212729>i find it too brightharsh, shouty, bright...does his happen on the same tracks you should be testing and A/Bing with your different pos? which of your pos is the worst in the treble on one track, where another one of your pos sounds just fine with the same track?could it be some of the audio you choose to listen to is mixed harsh?
>>108209967>retard plays at obscenely high levels>self induces tinnitus>somehow this is KZ’s faultTyvan is one of the biggest retarded scammers there is but even this is not his fault.
remember to change your DAC filter to linear phase fast
>>108191589>Rankings are a guide, not divine scripture. Your ears > his spreadsheet.Your ears = got used to shit. His ears = got used to good shit so his ears > your ears>Some genres need deviation.Only because they were mastered on shit audio gear (metal and hip hop I'm looking your way. Pop is golden unironically)>Chi-Fi isn’t magic.>Great value, yes. Immune to qc issues and hype cycles? Nah.Actually agreed. QC issues mean their specs = the specs of your particular unit>Graphs are not sound.>They don’t show staging, dynamics, or fit. Use your ears, not just squigs.Yes they do. A frequency response is literally sound. Just because you can't interpret graphs doesn't mean you can spew nonsense like any audiophool>BA ≠ metallic, DD ≠ perfect.>Implementation matters more than driver type. Always has.Only insofar that implementation is off the mark (which it shouldn't be in 2026 yet here we are)DD > planar > BA in literally every metric given the same FR>Meme sets aren’t the whole hobby.>If it’s not shilled 24/7, it might still be good. It's highly encouraged to form an original opinion.Agreed. Beats headphones are memed to normies and their FR is pure retardation >Disagreeing ≠ cope or deaf.>Let people like what they like without foaming at the mouth.Oh, they can like retarded things as long as they agree they are retarded>Loud posts =/= smart takes.>Confidence without experience is just noise. Show graphs, impressions, or both.True. Eg. Your postAt the end of the day the IEM hobby is still miles behind the speaker hobby but at least miles ahead of the headphone hobby. But basically, if you guys actually want to hear the potential of truly good audio equipment get some genelec or neumann speakers and listen to them about 1 meter away from your head, 1 meter apart and 0.5 meters from the front wall (the wall their back is facing)Once you understand and get used to that sound you can actually develop a decent INFORMED opini
>>108213048(Cont'd)Once you understand and get used to that sound you can actually develop a decent (INFORMED) opinion on IEMs but until then your ears are figuratively just shitting in the dark
>>108212463finally someone had the balls to say it, I've only heard accurate treble out of my mega5-est, the rest above and below in terms of price is just weird, I think it starts to get normal again around the 1.4k USD mark.
>>108212881i've got a 13 track playlist that varies in mastering style, some great some shit. some of it is mixed too harsh, those i expect to sound harsh. of all the iems i listed only the daybreak sounds too bright. arpegear hane is the only one i would say sounds fine and totally natural. the defiant is also pretty good, but the scooped mids make it sound less detailed than the hane. aful explorer is too dark for my taste. the rest under $90 just have low quality treble - sounds like a de-esser or some mild distortion/aliasing happening in the high treble.>>108213061neat. i've heard good things about those. sad you haven't found anything under $1.4k with normal treble. it's tough to justify more than $300 on IEMs, but if it means I can sell $5k of headphones then maybe it's worth it. at the high-end of the iem market i've also considered the 64 Ears U4S per John from JDS Labs recommendation.what do you like about the mega5-est?
>>108213048>>108213055all that gibber jabber just to tell me to use speakers? I have speaker too, but this isn't the speakers general, anon. >>108213225stick with the one you enjoy the most. don't expect to get much more out of it unless you are really curious and want to experiment- tune it to JM-1. I'm purposefully trying to avoid telling you to just EQ the treble because you already can enjoy an iem's treble for what it is without touching it, no reason to dive deep into constantly adjusting and making all of your iems replay the same. take your time, give it another year and take the time to decide if you really need an upgrade by then
>>108212945dont do this, it produces mustard gas.always, ALWAYS, go with slow linear.
